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# Hey, total newbie in need of advice...


Mmmm cheesy pose :D. So I've spent a few hours playing with vectoring and this is the result. I've used Gimp and Inkscape so far. Should I remove the white border? If so what's the best way of removing it?
Color to Alpha turns the image semi-transparent and trying to select the areas I need is almost impossible.

Any tips much appreciated!
(MrWizard, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:47, archived)
# Theres a JEW outside
Poisoning the well!
(I helped save b3ta! Koba http://sexycooladventures.blogspot.com/, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:48, archived)
# oh noes! not ANOTHER plague!
(I helped save b3ta! Sheehan forevermore owes Ttssattsr beer, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:51, archived)
[challenge entry] *cough*


-edit "hahaha" to all your replies :D
(I helped save b3ta! head-doctor ololololo, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:01, archived)
# HAHAHAHAHA
*clicky*
(I helped save b3ta! hexachordal la la la la la, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:01, archived)
# hola senior!
(I helped save b3ta! McBadger COW, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:01, archived)
# dirty sanchez?
(cs192 is sucking on a Koala at, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:02, archived)
# Leave my nose along please!
/Speedy Gonzales voice
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:03, archived)
# hahaha
Aces!

...hmmm considers growing a tash
(MrWizard, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:04, archived)
# You'd look good with one.
:D
(I helped save b3ta! head-doctor ololololo, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:04, archived)
# Haha
:D
(I helped save b3ta! Boris Johnson's Press Secretary, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:13, archived)
# Blimey. That's very good, first off. The hair is astounding.
But yes, get rid of the white border, the easiest way to do this being to put a white background on it :)
(I helped save b3ta! hexachordal la la la la la, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:48, archived)
# lol, yeah i tried this
but a bold colour background really seems to lift the image
(MrWizard, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:50, archived)
# you filtard
(I helped save b3ta! SkUG >_O i got a couple of stitches in my eyeball... ow, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:56, archived)
# you pilchard
(MrWizard, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:15, archived)
# you are fail
(I helped save b3ta! SkUG >_O i got a couple of stitches in my eyeball... ow, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 19:39, archived)
# is that a filter?
(I helped save b3ta! SkUG >_O i got a couple of stitches in my eyeball... ow, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:49, archived)
# ^this
It's either REALLY good, or a filter :D
(I helped save b3ta! head-doctor ololololo, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:50, archived)
# looky like a filter
because of the white bits...
(I helped save b3ta! SkUG >_O i got a couple of stitches in my eyeball... ow, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:51, archived)
# i'm going to assume it until proven otherwise
(I helped save b3ta! SkUG >_O i got a couple of stitches in my eyeball... ow, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:53, archived)
# heres a brief step by step...
in gimp
1) get source image, remove background
2) increase contrast
in inkscape
3) path bitmap, vector
in gimp
4) fix imperfections in vector image with clone tool
4) cut features out of old source pic, eyes/hair/mouth etc and layered them over the vector image.
5) then traced over the hair, edited colour levels and generally touched it up by eye
6) finally worked on removal of seams :)
(MrWizard, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:57, archived)
# Yeh...
That's not a vector. :p

(Well not all of it, anyway)
(I helped save b3ta! Incredibly Ordinary Dave needs your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:00, archived)
# you have failed
this is not a vector
(I helped save b3ta! SkUG >_O i got a couple of stitches in my eyeball... ow, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:54, archived)
# paint bucket tool, white, on the blue
but then you lose the blue background

'edit' ashally, I tried that, it leaves a blue border around the edges :s
(I helped save b3ta! McBadger COW, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:50, archived)
# Looks like a young Simon Le Bon


(I helped save b3ta! Boris Johnson's Press Secretary, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:50, archived)
# SPOOKY
I am currently listening to Duran Duran.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:51, archived)
# *sings*
"Her name is Rio and she dances like the wind!"
(I helped save b3ta! Boris Johnson's Press Secretary, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:52, archived)
# It was Hungry like the Wolf
and is now Save a Prayer
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:54, archived)
# save a prayer is PURE GENIUS


(I helped save b3ta! Boris Johnson's Press Secretary, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:55, archived)
# One of my favouritest songs ever.
Unfortunately I was 6 at the end of the 80s so I don't remember it the first time around.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:56, archived)
# i was drunk at the end of the 80s, listening to U2 on the radio live from Dublin welcoming in 1990
(I helped save b3ta! mutster101 fell over, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:59, archived)
# I think I was drunk as well.
My cousins used to like to get me pissed on babycham.

(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:59, archived)
# 6 years old and drunk
that explains a lot :p
(I helped save b3ta! mutster101 fell over, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:03, archived)
# NOT MY FAULT.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:04, archived)
# Pomagne was my tipple
of choice between the ages of 6 and 12.
I used to enter into everything and anything at the village fétes because there were always bottles of pomagne to be won. nobody gave a thought to giving perry to minors in those days. You fucking chavs have spoiled it for the country piss head youths ;)
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:22, archived)
# DOUBLY SPOOKY
I'm not.
(I helped save b3ta! mutster101 fell over, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:53, archived)
# How shit for you!
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:54, archived)
# No, because I am listening to Depeche Mode, who win everthing
(I helped save b3ta! mutster101 fell over, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:55, archived)
# I just bought a vinyl collection of their singles
for 3 quid from the local charity shop.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:58, archived)
# cool
although it does to an extent depend what singles that covers, as some of the early ones were pish.
(I helped save b3ta! mutster101 fell over, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:00, archived)
# Right.
People are people, master and servant, it's just called a heart, see you, shake the disease, everything counts, new life, blasphemous rumours, leave in silence, get the balance right, love in itself and dreaming of me.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:02, archived)
# ah... sorry, i misunderstood, it's Singles 81-85 yeah?
(I helped save b3ta! mutster101 fell over, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:05, archived)
# YUP
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:05, archived)
# cool
It's Called A Heart is total pish though, the B-side (Fly On The Windscreen) should've been the single.
(I helped save b3ta! mutster101 fell over, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:08, archived)
# Depeche Mode V Duran Duran...
...FIGHT!

(in Harry Hill voice)
(I helped save b3ta! Boris Johnson's Press Secretary, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:58, archived)
# I am currently listening to ROB MANUEL ^_^
I am so B3ta it hurts.
(I helped save b3ta! hexachordal la la la la la, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:55, archived)
# Really?
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:55, archived)
# Really.
It's a song from his new project mr. pitchy that's now no longer up on the internet... he wanted me to listen to some of his musics, and it's really very good.
(I helped save b3ta! hexachordal la la la la la, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:59, archived)
# simon le bon was never young
(I helped save b3ta! Sheehan forevermore owes Ttssattsr beer, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:52, archived)
# Always been sexy though.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:52, archived)
#
(I helped save b3ta! head-doctor ololololo, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:53, archived)
# Yeah you know it.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:54, archived)
# Oh yes.
Of course.
(I helped save b3ta! head-doctor ololololo, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:55, archived)
# Gordon Ramsay on a particularly good day?
(I helped save b3ta! ClanSoul, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:56, archived)
# hahahahahaha!
(I helped save b3ta! head-doctor ololololo, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:57, archived)
# Would.
He looks a bit like BT there. BT USED to be fit, but now he has LazyTown hair.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:57, archived)
# are we talking maureen lipman
or busby?
(I helped save b3ta! spacefish bong!, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:01, archived)
# Brian Transeau.
You WILL have heard some of his music.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:04, archived)
# *wikis*
yup, i have at least one of his albums
(I helped save b3ta! spacefish bong!, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:12, archived)
# lmao, i've never heard that one before
but I can be whoever you want me to be ;)
(MrWizard, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:01, archived)
# Is that all vector?
if so then it's very impressive!

Although if it is, how did the white outline get there in the first place? =/
(I helped save b3ta! Incredibly Ordinary Dave needs your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:50, archived)
# I must admit
I did cheat a little
www.b3ta.com/board/8096775
(MrWizard, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:06, archived)
# he's a FILTARD!
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:12, archived)
# Be honest,
is that a filter?
(I helped save b3ta! ClanSoul, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:53, archived)
# am I doing it right?
www1.eere.energy.gov/vehiclesandfuels/avta/images/oil_bypass/puradyn_filter.gif
(I helped save b3ta! McBadger COW, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:55, archived)
# Cor look at the layers on that!
(I helped save b3ta! SkUG >_O i got a couple of stitches in my eyeball... ow, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:55, archived)
# YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG
I made your "Hmmm" animation into an msn icon :)
(I helped save b3ta! ClanSoul, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:55, archived)
# heh nice!
my msn has borked up, I thing my emails may have been haxxcored :s
(I helped save b3ta! McBadger COW, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:58, archived)
# I think we've broken b3ta :(
(I helped save b3ta! hexachordal la la la la la, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:01, archived)
# Honestly no, honestly I'm flattered that b3tans think it is!
www.b3ta.com/board/8096775
(MrWizard, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:07, archived)
# Butch up a bit.
YOu'll never get picked at games looking like that!

EDIT:

tips
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:57, archived)
# lol
I never was good at sports, thus I became a real-time embedded programmer.

hmm, but I am looking to get into the computer games market! If that counts?
(MrWizard, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:11, archived)
# I'm confused about how a vector
would have a white border in the first place.
Perhaps if you explain how the white border got there, I might have some suggestions.
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:03, archived)
# ^this
I won't give suggestions, but I'd like to know how that outline got there.
(I helped save b3ta! head-doctor ololololo, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:04, archived)
# levers and pulleys!
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:05, archived)
# smoke and mirrors
(cs192 is sucking on a Koala at, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:07, archived)
# lies and statistics.
(I helped save b3ta! The Alchemist king of the needlessly complicated, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:13, archived)
# does this help?
www.b3ta.com/board/8096775

Tbh I couldn't find a decent tutorial on how to achieve something like this with vectoring. Google was not my friend.
(MrWizard, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:13, archived)
# Ok
then I'm guessing your problems stem way back from step one, when you removed the background.
I don't use Gimp so I'm not going to give a step-by-step, but here's a general idea of how to fix this quickly.
Turn off the background and merge all of the foreground, white outline included, onto one new layer.
Set the new layer to 'preserve transparency'.
Now use the clone tool to 'extend' the edges of the coloured area onto the white... just click right near the edge of the colour to set the sample position, then move a few pixels in and clone onto the white.
Messy, but it should basically work.
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:25, archived)
# hmm sounds tedious but...
I've investigated all the other possible quick fixes and failed, so it looks like more manual grafting is necessary.

Thanks for the tip, I'll go away, take a break then get cracking with it. cheers!
(MrWizard, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:35, archived)
# Here:

I fixed this using the method above. It left it looking pretty jaggy, so I smoothed it by selecting everything except the background, masking it, gaussian blurring the mask, then playing with the levels of the mask until the jaggies smoothed out.
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:35, archived)
# wow
much much much appreciated thank you!
(MrWizard, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:38, archived)