strange case of syncronosity popping back here after an absence, I notice 2 links by the 'day job orchestra' - the Obama one on the popular page and one a few links down
how many of you know they also make anti-NWO vids?
skip the symbology guff and jump to 4.08
for CFR quote on youtube link below
US senate Stan Jones at 7.30
also more irrefutable evidence if anyone wants to research further;
www.amazon.co.uk/Hope-Wicked-Master-Plan-World/dp/0966805631/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1236266739&sr=8-1
mine cost £37 but you could probably do a used copy for £10 if you look harder
contains a relentless amount of evidence that even the most cynical could not dismiss
also I take no pride in saying the prediction about hyperinflation I made back in Oct is unfolding and I hope you're buying silver (.9999 pure canadian maple coins on ebay ) after the BoE announced it was following Mugabe's model of printing money... all to plan
peace
(, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 15:33, Reply)
Hello! Nice to see you again.
I'll watch the vid (and do my darndest to demolish your claims) as soon as I get the chance...
:)
(, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 15:35, Reply)
bit of a hit and run
but we should make a date for a serious debate about the freeman/statute stuff I was posting a while back
maybe a debating thread on off topic - I could spare an hour - you always gave good debate
use my previous link to assemble your case for the prosecution:
www.b3ta.com/links/278026
the link is John Harris's presentation at "The Lawful Rebellion Conference" held in the UK recently , which outline my arguments perfectly and provides some cast iron proof for my previous claims
;)
(, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 15:48, Reply)
I watched that, thinking that John Harris would be the John Harris who's my colleague. Sadly, no.
I was just left with the impression that I was watching idiots. After all, they'd gone to Stoke by choice.
(, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 15:58, Reply)
Have you seen the young pretender who has been over on /board recently?
(, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 15:42, Reply)
The Chicago godzilla dude?
Yaaaa!
(, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 15:46, Reply)
Just a thought regarding the printing of money.
Q1. Name a major symptom of economic recession?
A1. Deflation in the value of natural currency.
Q2. Name a side effect of printing more money, specially during a period of deflation?
A2. Inflation.
Q3. Name the opposite of deflation
A3. Inflation.
So, you can can probably see why it might be done ;) ]
(, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 15:49, Reply)
I wish I had the time to get into this with you
can I fob you off with my previous waffling on the subject - which is unfortunately very relevant to todays finacial announcement
www.b3ta.com/links/236198
(, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 15:51, Reply)
I can't be arsed with this actual post, just I don't think printing more money helps at all.
(, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 19:35, Reply)
www.b3ta.com/links/285967
(, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 15:53, Reply)
regarding your previosuly linked freeman of the land subject, there was an interesting programme on tv the other evening focusing on the subject, with your main main John Harris.
I believe it was a 2 hour interview with him. I was hoping to stay to watch all of it, just for background info. on it if nothing else, but was sadly called away.
Not wishing to get myself involved too much in the subject, but it may well be repeated, and I thought it may be of interest to you, it's probably up on the net somewhere anyway. :)
(, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 15:54, Reply)
not a 'mainstream' channel, I'll grant you, but easy to find on the SKY channels, and maybe freeview (not sure on the latter)
It's a channel that focuses quite heavily on 'conspiracy' (for want of a better word) subjects. Can't say I'm a regular viewer
(or indeed want to be) but I am aware it exists, and caught the start of the freeman thing on a channel-hop
(, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 17:51, Reply)
I've got to go in a minute, so I'm just going to throw a few points out. I don't really have the time to write full paragraphs - for which I apologise.
First: hyperinflation? Where? Yes, printing money can cause that. And, not being an economist, I can't comment on the wisdom of doing so now. But I'm willing to believe that it might be necessary, and there's no reason at all to suppose that it'll be hyperinflationary. Evidence, please.
Second: The gold standard. You seem curiously hung up on this. However, I'm puzzled. If it's so important for the dollar to be backed by gold, what, in turn, backs the gold? If gold doesn't need backing, why does anything else? (You don't believe in gold's inherent value do you? Really? Please, no...)
Third: New World Order. Splicing a few contextless soundbites doesn't amount to much. It tells us nothing about the nature of the alleged NWO, what the phrase means, nor why (and that) we should worry. The notion that the world might be restructured radically in some way is potentially quite appealing.
Fourth: The clip at 4:30 onwards seems like churn-it-out anti-communist and anti-left paranoia. It doesn't need refutation. You can smell the hokum.
Fifth: 7:20 onwards. Ditto. Hokum. Surely you can see that?
Sixth: 7:55. The claims about the EU consitution are simply false.
Seventh: 8:30. What's the evidence for the Amero claims? Simply that there's a road being built? Oh, come off it. And - besides - you haven't explained why the Amero would be so bad. Soviet consitution? Really?
Note that the speaker here is a libertarian candidate. That is - fairly rightwing, individualistic, frontiersman, small-state claptrap.
And with that, I'm off. See you later.
(, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 15:55, Reply)
you cannot be this stupid?
no doubt you have intelligence but your supreme arrogance has a habit of distorting any info you are presented with or simply creating a blind spot to be ignored
I seem to remember when I was predicting the the financial/housing crash begining in 07 you took great pleasure in telling me how misguided I was and how it will be a minor blip from which house prices will bounce back from again - remember that?
when you develop an arrogance that interferes with your survival instinct I seriously suggest you have a rethink about your outlook
compare what 1oz of gold bought 100 years ago and 1 oz buys you today
compare what £1 bought you 100 years ago and what £1 buys you today
you get the idea?
www.economicshelp.org/2008/04/hyperinflation-causes-costs-and.html
when money comes off the gold standard the banks have free reign: every note is produced with interest (debt) attached - the effect is the central bank has to perpetually increase the money supply to cover the outstanding debt created - which in turn creates more debt - what we have is a very sophisticated form of slavery - as it is impossible for people and government to come out of this self perpetuating cycle of debt
and what is money today - a promisory note backed by our labour, they are permitted to create the money in relation to how much actual money they hold - they are still creating it from nothing - and charge interest on it
it then loans to the government at interest and then regulates value of this currency through supply
this entire mechanism only produces one thing -spiralling debt and systmatic collapse - what we are witnessing today
witness the toxic loans and sub primes and how the money was raised to back them - not possible if there was a leverage on how much could be raised by anchoring it to a limited gold supply - thus keeping inflation down - and the cost of living
witness the gov backed programme in the US to make affordale housing available to people they knew could not repay it - they made it policy - look at Obama his vice pres involvement in this
look up Fanny Mae - do the research
you do not make mopre loans available to meet the rising house prices - this is like poring petrol on the fire as doing so will only create house prices spiralling upwards out of control with loans being thrown at any old joe to buy one on a 125% mortgage - you don't need to be a rocket scientist to see what will happen when yo make a huge demand available (sub prime morgages issued to unstable holders who will default) to a limited housing stock - it's like someone said about the financial crisis being caused by city wide boys and not some 'shadowy elite'
yep, the city wide boys caused the financial troubles but because they operated in an unregulated arena created by those above them - despite the seeming chaos it all still exists within the convines of created system at the higher level, as with the 30s - and have no doubt this was steered by a group from above
in the 20s they refined this scam by increasing the money supply and creating high risk loans (hence the period known as the Roaring 20s) - they then called in the loans en masse causing massive sell offs and bank runs enabling the central bank to buy up whole corporations on the cheap - -the bank then contracted the money supply creating -the great depression of the 1930s -
“a world banking system was being set up, a superstate controlled by international bankers acting togather to enslave th world” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_T._McFadden Louis Mc Fadden (later poisoned)
"Give me the control of the credit of a nation, and I care not who makes the laws.” ROthchild (owner of BoE)
“this regionalization is in keeping with the Tri-Lateral Plan which calls for a gradual convergence of East and West. Ultimately leading towards the goal of a one world government.” Zbigniew Brezinski
Zbigniew Brezinski is OBAMA's main man - look it up - look him up
(aplogies for spelling - speed typing as I have to leave and I have a tonne of problems to sort.... but teh bitch ain't one)
(, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 16:55, Reply)

(, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 17:16, Reply)
your picture beats my ramblings any day :)
I asked one of my wife's friends having a Obamagasm which of his policies he likes
"he has policies?"
yep, we're f*cked
(, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 17:17, Reply)
Though large bodies of text can put some people off.
I went through a phase of trying to alert everyone I know to the real facts, some people will never be able to accept it, you have to move on.
And yes, invest in gold/silver while it's affordable.
Laters.
(, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 17:20, Reply)
if at all
He's a name that you probably dislike , but Samuel Huntington's Clash of Civilisations is a good read to this effect
(, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 17:43, Reply)
I have no idea what one ounce of gold bought a century ago, nor what a pound bought. I don't see how that makes a difference.
The value of gold only exists because we desire it - that's what value is. Now, it happens that people consistently seem to want gold - but, were they to decide that, say, topsoil was much more desirable, they'd sell their golf for topsoil. The value of gold'd plummet - and it'd buy very little - and the price of topsoil would rise, meaning that it'd buy more.
Rather like a currency. Gold may be less volatile over the short term, but that has to do with human psychology more than with gold itself.
Conversely, a currency is valuable if and only if people want it. It doesn't need to be guaranteed by anything except people's faith in it. (And don't go thinking that gold is a guarantee against inflation - it isn't - or that it provides a stable mark of value - witness the stories about the Malian emperor who, in the 14th century, undertook the Hajj. While in Cairo, he gave away so much gold that the market collapsed and the economy took years to recover.)
Incidentally, were I to pay you for a good or service in gold, you'd be relying on the probability that someone'd want to exchange that gold later for food or shelter or something. Rather like a promissory note, in fact...
Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac were monumental fuck-ups. So what? Noone denies that, and it doesn't alter the general picture.
Your quotations add nothing - except... Rothschild owned the BoE? Eh?
Apologies for typos - I'm a bit tipsy.
(, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 17:52, Reply)
why would a power-hungry elite want a communist system?
The final goal of a communist state is to get rid of the central government.
I call bullshit on all of this.
(, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 15:56, Reply)
I get my evidence by the bale from Lidl.
(, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 16:05, Reply)
with the word 'evidanse' written on them.
spelling aside, it's very compelling.
(, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 16:45, Reply)
I DRINK IT UP!!
now take that concept
take those bits of paper you have rub out "evidense" and draw a smiley pic of the queen and a pound sign and a 50
then issue as many as you like and charge interst on anyone that loans them from you
then you have exactly what the banks are doing
has any of this penetrated the haze of smug sarcastic funk that surrounds your wiseass head yet?
(, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 17:24, Reply)
like everyone isn't getting bummed all the time by the power elite anyway? its not like we're free now and they are going to take our cherished freedom. thats long gone. so why stress?
(, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 18:17, Reply)