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This is a link post Another shooting in Merika.
Noone killed this time (except the gunman), but three injured in a hospital in Alabama.

If only the patients had been armed. Because nothing screams safety like terrified and confused people with guns.

UPDATE: This is worth reading, from what is - for my money - the best blog in the world (and certainly the best blog written by octogenarian grandmothers): margaretandhelen.com/2012/12/15/guns-do-not-kill-people-they-make-it-easier-to-kill-people/
 (I helped save b3ta! Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 21:14, , Reply)
This is a normal post Service Unavailable
Perhaps the internet got hit in the crossfire

Edit: Ok, working
 (I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 21:16, , Reply)
This is a normal post Hmmm: works for me.
But there's not much to it. Man goes to hospital. Man has gun. Man shoots people. Man is killed by police.

Oh, yeah - let's not forget the other shooting in Oregon on Tuesday: www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/index.ssf/2012/12/clackamas_town_center_shooting_1.html - you know, the trivial one.
 (I helped save b3ta! Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 21:18, , Reply)
This is a normal post Nothing unusual there then
/moves on
 (I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 21:19, , Reply)
This is a normal post I thought for a minute then that there was a shooting scheduled in for Oregon on Tuesday

(I helped save b3ta! krang, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 21:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post There quite possibly is.

(I helped save b3ta! Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 21:30, , Reply)
This is a normal post I've got something slightly long winded and surprising to say about this
but I don't want to come off all wanky, opinionated and pseudo intellectual teenager, so if it's alright with everyone I'll only post it on a request.
 (Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Sat 15 Dec 2012, 22:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post Requested.

(pissflaps. FSPW, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 22:12, , Reply)
This is a normal post I've cut it down a lot!..
Now I consider myself, much to Enzyme's, chagrin, as being on the libertarian right wing. I believe that for as long as the 2nd amendment is in force, it should be obeyed and respected. However, I do not support the amendment myself. I feel that it should be totally repealed as it has no practical relevance to the modern world. I support the right of the American states to make any laws against weapons(though not the US Federal Government.
If anyone starts the "2nd Amendment didn't cover private citizens just the millitary" balls, I'll expand
 (Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Sat 15 Dec 2012, 22:30, , Reply)
This is a normal post Civil society is a passing phase. Give it a few years & the right to bear arms will be very relevant.

(pissflaps. FSPW, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 22:41, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'm surprised, i though you'd be a leftwing liberal.

(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Sat 15 Dec 2012, 22:43, , Reply)
This is a normal post Clegg's a cunt.

(pissflaps. FSPW, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 22:48, , Reply)
This is a normal post
Not LibDem, just, sort of Socialist/Hippie.
 (Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Sat 15 Dec 2012, 22:50, , Reply)
This is a normal post I hope you are joking.

(pissflaps. FSPW, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 23:03, , Reply)
This is a normal post Oh..
are you part of the right wing minority on this site then?
 (Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Sat 15 Dec 2012, 23:08, , Reply)
This is a normal post 'right wing minority'
You obviously haven't met links own neo-nazi Tab Hunter yet.
 (pissflaps. FSPW, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 23:11, , Reply)
This is a normal post
I know me, Monty, "Amberl" and "Racheswipe" supported the Tories.
All the political jokes on this site come at the expense of the Tories/Republicans/UKIP/neoLiberals though (or even worse, jokes claiming left of centre parties aren't nearly left wing enough- errant nonsense), and most here seem to be of the leftie persuasion.
 (Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Sat 15 Dec 2012, 23:15, , Reply)
This is a normal post Political parties/groups are generally rather silly.
But people buy into them and continue to allow them to rule over their lives. I used to be very interested in politics but learnt that it is more fun to be free.
 (pissflaps. FSPW, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 23:24, , Reply)
This is a normal post I like him ...
he'll do anything for a fiver.
 (mrmatt is staging a 'dirty protest' on, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 22:55, , Reply)
This is a normal post CaC.

(pissflaps. FSPW, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 23:32, , Reply)
This is a normal post or is it CaCaC ? :D

(mrmatt is staging a 'dirty protest' on, Sun 16 Dec 2012, 0:03, , Reply)
This is a normal post CaCaMaC

(I helped save b3ta! Rebel biscuit stercore sumus et nos esse novimus, Sun 16 Dec 2012, 0:23, , Reply)
This is a normal post What?!
You've misinterpreted him somewhat I think
 (I helped save b3ta! morrybyte made a subtle namechange at, Sun 16 Dec 2012, 1:50, , Reply)
This is a normal post I hope so

(BumCoffee Portrait videographer, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 23:00, , Reply)
This is a normal post How would you answer the argument "If you make weapons illegal, only criminals will have weapons"?
Just out of interest
 (Stonkwood Pipes made me do it, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 22:52, , Reply)
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It's never been empirically proven. Gun deaths are more prevalent the higher the legal ownership of guns, theres a strong correlation. I saw a graph yesterday, I'll try and find it somewhere.
 (Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Sat 15 Dec 2012, 23:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post
Could we let the police keep their guns?
 (I helped save b3ta! quackpipe swings like a pendulum do, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 23:13, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yes.
Infact i'd want that for the UK too, for at least 30% of officers.
 (Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Sat 15 Dec 2012, 23:16, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'd politely disagree with that
I have no problem with members of the Police forces being armed. Armed Response units serve a useful and valid purpose. I see no compelling justification for arming regular officers though.
 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 23:34, , Reply)
This is a normal post This
We don't like people being shot over here, we like tazers (well, except Pedantichrist if I remember correctly).
 (I helped save b3ta! Extinct Jesus Dossier "...I think it counteracts Hitler's magic...", Sun 16 Dec 2012, 11:55, , Reply)
This is a normal post Criminals don't shoot up primary schools, as it's not in their interests.
Criminals have guns anyway, it's the curious toddler, the jumpy texan and the mentally ill school shooter that you want to legislate guns further away from.

People say guns don't kill people, ok. What else do they do?
 (I helped save b3ta! Extinct Jesus Dossier "...I think it counteracts Hitler's magic...", Sun 16 Dec 2012, 11:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post I wonder if there is any research into what motivates these people to commit murder.
At some point the killer must feel that it is the only option to go guns-a-blazing and have nothing to loose. I suppose that this could be a long time in advance and give them time to think through the kill fest. It would be interesting to gain an insight into the route to the act.
 (pissflaps. FSPW, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 22:11, , Reply)
This is a normal post Computer games,
innit.
 (FartThroughAWalkieTalkie wished you were dead in ditch on, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 22:37, , Reply)
This is a normal post Word.

(pissflaps. FSPW, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 22:42, , Reply)
This is a normal post
excel does my head in as well
 (I helped save b3ta! quackpipe swings like a pendulum do, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 22:50, , Reply)
This is a normal post Word 2003 for me.

(pissflaps. FSPW, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 23:01, , Reply)
This is a normal post charlie brooker link earlier today has the psychologist making the case that they are actively seeking the news coverage they generate
and that a big help would be to make the coverage local only and boring as hell.
 (Stonkwood Pipes made me do it, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 22:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post Brooker is an irrelevant twat.

(pissflaps. FSPW, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 23:04, , Reply)
This is a normal post research...
more research, and inquiries, won't sbdy think of those who would otherwise be out of work without a good old inquiry, enquiry. let's all spunk some cash at it. problem solved.
 (itilliterate, Sat 15 Dec 2012, 23:16, , Reply)
This is a normal post I think that there's a fair bit.
Whether any of it's conclusive is a different matter.

I'm with you in a lot of this: there must be a strange sort of breaking point in a lot of these - a kind of despair (I can't think of a better word). Sometimes it's mental illness, for sure. Sometimes it's not. It's fascinating, though.
 (I helped save b3ta! Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Sun 16 Dec 2012, 11:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post I have nothing of use to contribute to this
but I like Margaret and Helen very much.
 (I helped save b3ta! Pig Bodine., Sun 16 Dec 2012, 0:31, , Reply)
This is a normal post *yawns*
seriously, gun crime, in a country where gun ownership is not illegal? please don't break the news about the bear, who sh...
 (itilliterate, Sun 16 Dec 2012, 0:53, , Reply)
This is a normal post It appears that age does gift wisdom.
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 (I helped save b3ta! sir_spicious2000 Crap I've watched: www.filmplop.blogspot.com/, Sun 16 Dec 2012, 1:09, , Reply)