Sadly, the problem with the whole 'first breath after 20 minutes' thing...
…tends also to carry with it the rather slight downer of likely hypoxic brain injury or likely ensuing masive chronic cardiac failure..
( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 0:30, 3 replies)

You're just looking forward to groping them in the morgue which is what you do because it was on the internet.

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 7:57, closed)

Because in modern medicine
there have been no machines or first aid techniques developed to help people who are unable to breath pump oxygen around their body until they can take a breath for themselves.
(kendohmassif Fritzl Burger Monkey Chode, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 8:14, closed)

Trouble is, that really, really isn't as good as the actual real thing.
And it's more than likely that the person suffering the cardiac arrest will have had rather poor oxygenation and/or circulation in the hours leading up the arrest.
( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 8:33, closed)

They're still good enough
to prevent any of the side effects from oxygen deprivation you mentioned plus the original poster never mentioned cardiac arrest specifically, there are a number of reasons why a person would not be able to breath on their own.
(kendohmassif Fritzl Burger Monkey Chode, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 8:50, closed)

He didn't say the patient was unable to breathe on his own
he said 'being down'.

Might be a good idea to learn basic comprehension and fact retention before pontificating on the internet.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 8:59, closed)

It's almost like this poster's idea of what happens when someone suffers a catastrophic medical event has been solely culled from the last episode of 'Sherlock'.

( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 9:27, closed)

If you have a cardiac arrest in Hollywood world you can jump up and thump the bad guy as soon as they've sewn your torso back up.

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 9:30, closed)

mmmm
sherlock
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 9:43, closed)

Take a breath after being down
Implies to me that they were unable to breath for themselves. I'll pontificate wherever the fuck I want.
(kendohmassif Fritzl Burger Monkey Chode, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 9:36, closed)

In adults, the respiratory arrest is usually a happy side-effect of a cardiac arrest, kiddies more likely the other way round.
Either way, the longer you spend resus-ing someone the greater the likelihood of the whole 'utterly fucked' scenario happening is.
( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 9:41, closed)

It was merely a suggestion to make you appear less foolish
Feel free to ignore it. Or get upset and defensive. Your choice like.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 9:45, closed)

Define being down for me Dr
because I just asked a friend who is a nurse and they're definition was someone in need of life support. You know what life support machines do? Help people who can't breath, breath.
(kendohmassif Fritzl Burger Monkey Chode, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 10:20, closed)

'Life support' isn't just airway support. Once you've secured that, you've got to make sure they've got a decent cardiac function so's that airway is actually of some use to them.

( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 10:30, closed)

i'm not sure it's of any use to anyone on here, this morning

( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 10:50, closed)

Hahaha. Classic internet.
Using 'my mate is a nurse' while arguing with a nurse.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 10:39, closed)

Hang on
AB cant be a nurse that's a womens job innit?
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 10:48, closed)

He washes pensioner foofoos in the morgue.
He's not paid ... it's a hobby.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 10:55, closed)

I wasn't arguing with AB
I was arguing with you fuck nuts. Not that it matters because my original point that someone can survive 20 minutes of assisted breathing through resuscitation or through a ventilator and not suffer brain damage through lack of oxygen is a simple fact. That's all I was saying. However likely or unlikely that is is besides the point it still happens.
(kendohmassif Fritzl Burger Monkey Chode, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 13:08, closed)

please be quiet, there's a love.
you haven't even stopped to breath.
( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 14:34, closed)

Bless.
You really are sweet.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 14:37, closed)

They can, but your chances of that happening becomes exponentially less the longer past 4 minutes you go.
Resus only keeps a certain percentage of oxygen moving and, more importantly doesn't clear carbon dioxide very well, which will fuck you up.
( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 18:05, closed)

YM was 'down' for a good 20 minutes last night.

( drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 11:21, closed)

your points might carry more weight if you knew how to spell 'breathe'
you relentless spastic.
( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 12:08, closed)

what do you think of sherlock?

( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 12:27, closed)

benedict cucumberpatch looks like someone poked eyes in dough with their thumbs.
otherwise, dunno. never seen it.
( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 13:02, closed)

haha

( drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 13:07, closed)

oh man
still, more cumberbatch for me
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 14:03, closed)

We know you're making sense.
That's Amorous Badger, he's a witless cretin, ignore him.
(username failed moderation, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 9:23, closed)

'This poster upset me on the internet once, therefore they do not know what they are talking about'.
'Also, I'm actually trolling them, not getting upset'.
( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 9:39, closed)

Do you have any other response?
Is shrieking 'UPSET!' at every post I make the best you can do?

It's hilarious and all that, but you know, variety is the spice of life.
(username failed moderation, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 10:17, closed)

Get a room you two.

( edjogs Collared doves are shit., Mon 27 Jan 2014, 10:30, closed)

If someone's 'been down' for 20 minutes without breathing, one way or another, they've probably had a cardiac arrest.
And if someone's been fuckwitted enough NOT to intubate someone after 20 minutes of not breathing then, no matter how good your resus skilz are, they are probably, in the long term, to use medical parlance, fucked.

More to the point, if they've been intubated, then they're probably not heavily sedated and/or paralysed and very unlikely to breathe..
( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 9:26, closed)

You're starting to sound
upset AB.

Count to ten. Breathe.
(username failed moderation, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 10:18, closed)

Textbook Leglessling here.

( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 10:29, closed)

Is that
good or bad?
(username failed moderation, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 12:42, closed)

Dunno
It's just what Badger says when he's upset
( emvee cruor deo cruoris, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 13:44, closed)

You dreadful
bully.
(username failed moderation, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 14:18, closed)

You're right, he's fucking shit at it.

( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 18:06, closed)

Oh, upset there AB.

(username failed moderation, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 21:09, closed)

I've seen every episode of 'Dial M for Murder' and 'Quincy', and concur.

(DBT became a fruitarian on, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 9:34, closed)

Hahahaha

( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 9:47, closed)

Well internetted. 9/10

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 9:58, closed)

Damn it
You need to take this all the way to the mayors office...


ITS MURDER
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 10:16, closed)

The most upsetting part of this whole thread is the confusion, wilful or otherwise,
of Dial M for Murder with Diagnosis Murder. That's probably ruined my entire week now.
( Pig Bodine., Mon 27 Jan 2014, 10:59, closed)

^ This.

( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Mon 27 Jan 2014, 14:34, closed)