Even if it took trillions of zillions, it's still less than a spark of flint, it's not going anywhere.
I know you don't look down on me =) I'm not saying I know what god is and all that, I don't have a clue, but I like the idea of it, and it's no _less_ silly.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 4 May 2011, 13:36, 2 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

tis : )

( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 13:37, Reply)

s'not.
Look around at your computer, your desk, got a drink there? Can you see any birds or people from your window? The sky, the trees, the whole lot.... coming from an explosion? Have you ever seen someone throw, say, a hand grenade and ending up with a tree as a direct result from the explosion ?
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 4 May 2011, 13:42, Reply)

You're over simplifying the arguement.
I believe in the actions of physics and chemistry and not religion.
( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 13:48, Reply)

^ Sea Monkeys.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Wed 4 May 2011, 13:50, Reply)

Why can't you believe in the actions of phsyics and biology and spirituality?

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 4 May 2011, 13:50, Reply)

As I get older I get less and less spiritual.
If anything I lean towards the idea that God is within each of us and not as a deity as in the Buddhist belief.

Religion has been around as long as man has been around. Man in his simple belief needed answers for all the world around him and religion was a useful tool for this.
( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 13:56, Reply)

When you get "proper" OLD
I think you want to believe there is something more.

Own mortality, innit.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 4 May 2011, 13:57, Reply)

I truley welcome oblivion.
I'm not scared of being dead, only the way in which I die.
( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:02, Reply)

I suspect it will be on your own Learjet
Surrounded by lusty young lads all waiting to service you.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:04, Reply)

If I'm dying then I'd rather just have a cup of tea and a chat.

( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:05, Reply)

You won't know you are dying.
It will be a surprise endorphin fuelled heart attack.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:08, Reply)

Being born in Blackburn will do that to a girl

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:05, Reply)

haha!

( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:05, Reply)

Better question, why feel the need to argue with someone over their beliefs?
I hate people that think I'm stupid because I believe in God. I don't give a fuck about why you don't, why try to peg me on because I do.
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 4 May 2011, 13:56, Reply)

Putting the fun back into fundamentalism.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 4 May 2011, 13:58, Reply)

I understand to a point why some people believe.
Religion is so intergral to our society now that we've all got used to it being there. I'm fascinated by religion but lack the skills to debate it properly.
( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:00, Reply)

To think people believe in God because they're used to religion being here is just stupid.

( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:02, Reply)

No it isn't.
It's not the only reason but a part of it.
( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:06, Reply)

The argument is categorically unresolvable
Atheists will point out that there is no proof for the existence of God and believers will cite the necessity of faith. Neither party is likely to convince the other.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:06, Reply)

Yes it's a fairly pointless argument to have
but that doesn't mean that one side isn't right.

It's like AV (yeah I went there) despite infallible logic in favour of the change, some people just go LALALALALALA!
(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:09, Reply)

Because a huge amount of complete bullshit has been published in favour of the counterargument, Al
Religion. Not AV.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:12, Reply)

:(

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:23, Reply)

Faith is turning the weakness of lack of evidence into a strength
by saying that God/Allah/the FSM doesn't provide evidence specifically so that we can demonstrate faith.

I feel uncomfortable with a supreme being who says people who base their decisions on feelings and instinct are better than those who use logic and reason. I'm not saying they should be considered worse, I just don't think they should be elevated above rational people.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:13, Reply)

Actually I think it's a very pertinant point
would you have just realised that God existed in the way you believe in it had it not been for your upbringing and the way other people around you told you it worked?

No, you wouldn't. The fact that there are many different religions demonstrates this in spades.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:08, Reply)

racist.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:10, Reply)

^this
I know what I want to say but can't put it into words.
( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:11, Reply)

Who came up with the concept then?
If no one had up until one was born then surely the concept of a higher being or "purpose" in life would be imminently forthcoming?

I don't think there is a period of human history that doesn't share the concept in one form or another?
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:11, Reply)

People use stories to justify things they don't understand
Hence gods of the sun and the lightning.

Anyway, I'm not getting into this, because as Kristine says, it's up to her to believe whatever she wants and I'm fully in favour of this. She doesn't tell people that they are wrong for not believing what she believes.

But I would say that BGB is also entitled to her view to not want to go out with someone who believes in god, because at some point in a relationship, you are going to have a clash of ideologies regarding it.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:15, Reply)

Yeah and probably no anal.

( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:17, Reply)

Just because someone is religious
doesn't mean they won't let you peg them.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:19, Reply)

I thought God didn't like bum sex.

( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:20, Reply)

Priests seem to fucking love it.
And the old pope was very keen.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:21, Reply)

It's funny that people aren't wrong for believing in God.
Yet they are morons for believing in FPTP.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:28, Reply)

No, you are completely
misconstruing what I'm saying.

People have the right, if they so wish, to believe in god, any god.

Doesn't make them right, but it's their choice. I've given up arguing about AV, it's making me too angry. It's a failure of logical argument against ideology and stupidity and It's just getting me too pissed off, so yes, I do think those arguing in favour of FPTP are stupid cunts, but I'm not going to get into it anymore.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:33, Reply)

OK Al.
Excuse my gentle baiting.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:35, Reply)

If there had been no religion before our God then I would be more inclined to have faith.
But as I stated previously, religion of one sort or another has been around since man evolved as a way of coping with the world around him. Look at scientology. Each of us knows what a pile of wank it is but the scientologists don't and would argue fiercly their point of view.
( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:16, Reply)

In 2011 it's not a fair argument.

( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:13, Reply)

See above
I hope your braces get put on right and aren't too sore.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:16, Reply)

LOOK FOOL
the only thing I'm saying is that the idea is insulting to free thinkers that have been around for thousands of years.
I have my own ideas and ways I feel about it, in some ways I may conform, but to me only you can choose the way you feel about it.
I understand that religion has been passed from generation to generation but that doesn't force you, especially now, to believe in God.
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:25, Reply)

It's not insulting to say to people that had no way of knowing better that they were wrong.
It's more insulting to look at all the evidence and then close your eyes and go LALALALALALALALALA.

But it's your choice.

And I'm not going to get into this
(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:29, Reply)

how is that insulting to you?
how is that insulting to you?

nevermind
people may think I'm stupid and that's fine
but I'm glad I feel the way I feel and that's all I can say about it
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:31, Reply)

LALALALALALALALALALALA
Have you seen this?

(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:34, Reply)

does your wife want any chocolate? you never responded to my gaz, you WHORE

( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:35, Reply)

Oh man, that's so rude of me
I do apologise. My wife likes posh chocolate, all the Girradelli stuff we tried she loved, but she's not keen on any Hershys chocolate.

She really likes Reeses peanut butter cups too.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:38, Reply)

i was going to send posh chocolates but you mentioned the hersheys
it will be sent out this weekend
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:43, Reply)

Sweeeeeet!
I shall look forward to it. Thank you.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:44, Reply)

It doesn't matter because we're going to die in 2012

(PsychoChomp, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:17, Reply)

Thank fuck for that.
I hate going to the gymn.
( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:19, Reply)

I hope I get to run the Marathon before it ends.

(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:22, Reply)

You're saving your sweaty shorts for me yeah?

( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:27, Reply)

I'll bring them up to your party
and go running through the dales.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:28, Reply)

I thought it was May 21st this year.
*checks calendar*
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:27, Reply)

I'll be on holiday so suits me fine.

( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:31, Reply)

the world ending won't ruin your holiday?

( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:34, Reply)

Nah! I'd rather go whilest having a good time.

( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:38, Reply)

And seeing some sexy b3tans in lycra running shorts.

(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:41, Reply)

That sucks
I was looking forward to seeing your house.

and sniffing your undies
(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:35, Reply)

There is a very small chance it won't happen.
So fingers crossed.
( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:39, Reply)

What if god was one of us?

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Wed 4 May 2011, 13:37, Reply)

*dons tinfoil hat*

( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 13:38, Reply)

(You'll look even)
stranger on the bus.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Wed 4 May 2011, 13:39, Reply)

I met one of those once IRL.
He wouldn't let me try it on for size.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Wed 4 May 2011, 13:41, Reply)

The conspiracy theory loons are out in force following recent events.
Osama's been dead for years and kept on ice until the right political situation came along. Like Barack's waning popularity, for example, even though Osama was supposed to have died in Dubbya's time in office and before the twin towers...
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Wed 4 May 2011, 13:46, Reply)

I guess that as somebody who believes nothing they are told, without good evidence.
I just think conspiracy theorists need a darn good kicking.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Wed 4 May 2011, 13:49, Reply)

It's the complete lack of evidence that annoys me.
They’ll happily spout that so-and-so said this as an argument for their paranoia, yet never offer a source for the actual article / interview they were supposed to have said it in.

My next door neighbour is conspiracy theorist. Nice bloke, but he believes absolutely everything on DavidIcke.com or whatever.
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Wed 4 May 2011, 13:52, Reply)

Such people have low self esteem and lack confidence in themselves.
They need to be able to explain why there lives are so shit, without taking responsibility for it.

Heh, my life is quite shit, but its my fault.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Wed 4 May 2011, 13:58, Reply)

It's because people have too much time on their hands.
Didn't get any of this when Harold got an arrow in his eye.

"oh no, he'd had an arrow in his eye for ages!" etc.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 4 May 2011, 13:53, Reply)

Exactly, There are several panels of the Bayeux tapestry showing Harold without an arrow in the eye.

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Wed 4 May 2011, 13:59, Reply)

But is it TRUE.
It's a French weaver's conspiracy to.....snorrzzzz.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:01, Reply)

We'd all be doomed.

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Wed 4 May 2011, 13:39, Reply)