Blatant repeat of my latest FB Rant:
The Olympics. Some rough sums says that this farce is costing around £260 per adult head of the population. I didn't vote for it, I don't want it and I fucking object to my taxes being used to pay for it. I live in London so I doubt I'll be able to ignore it either.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:13, 5 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

I went to see puss in boots and there was a cartoon about the Olympic mascots.
Honest to fuck it was so painfully shit I almost wept.
( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:15, Reply)

Everything involved is like that
it's just going to be embarisingly shit throughout
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:19, Reply)

They got that Stephen Fry to do the voice over.
It made me want to break his nose even more.
( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:20, Reply)

The man's a whore.

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:52, Reply)

I didn't vote for a lot of things
but we live in a democracy. If you don't like it, fuck off somewhere else if they'll have you.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:15, Reply)

We bearly live in a democracy
it's really not a very good one. While that comment was a bit tongue in cheek I think it's not unreasonable to get pissed off about 'democratic' governments involving the country in things on which the populous have had no chance to express an opinion.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:18, Reply)

We do, it's just that democracy doesn't really work that well.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:21, Reply)

Well, this was mostly my point.
It's a shit democracy, that works badly, even by the limitations of the version of democracy it's attempting.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:23, Reply)

No, what pisses me off is the idea that an elected government should ever consult "the people"
Referenda are a fucking waste of time. If you don't like something you vote the other way at the next election. You express your opinion that way.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:23, Reply)

While I agree in theory...
I'd like you to point out which party I should have voted for in order to avoid us bidding for the Olympics and any number of other shitty decisions that were acclaimed by all major parties.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:26, Reply)

BNP? UKIP?
Nope, I'm afraid MMPS is right. Dictatorship seems the only reasonable solution. After all the electorate is an arse.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:30, Reply)

I'm not going to make your decision for you
if you don't like one policy of the major parties, don't vote for them if you feel that one policy is suitably important. Vote for a tiny little party, or don't vote if you feel that's your only alternative, but the system is as it is, and since, thanks to those cunts currently in power, we now have no chance of ever changing the voting system in our lifetime, you can either accept it or leave.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:30, Reply)

Hmm..
This is, in reality what I do (either vote for minor parties with no hope in hell or spoil my ballot) but it seems odd to say "this is how it is, accept it or leave" in a notionally democratic system.

Anyway I do accept it, in the sense I'm not leaving of raising armed rebellion against it, but this does not mean I have to like it, nor that I cannot have a good winge about how shit it is when specifically asked to do so.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:39, Reply)

You fool.
You should have voted for electoral reform when you had the chance.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:43, Reply)

I did, more fool me.
Although according to Mr. TheGeordie I should not have been allowed to.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:52, Reply)

Yeah, I was pretty certain you would have done.
As I said before: the electorate is an arse.
Silly cunts will never vote in the right thing.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:55, Reply)

True true.
I really wonder why I bother to vote at all sometimes. mostly to prove a point to my dad I think.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 13:05, Reply)

There are other reasons
If you don't vote, you can't complain.
If you allow apathy to take over, then they will have won.
To do nothing would probably make you feel even worse.
I'm not offering any solutions, I know it is shit.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 13:17, Reply)

I stand by this
It shouldn't have been a political pissing contest it should have gone to an independent committee to look at the options and decide the best option, the fact that the government didn't like the findings of such committees is shown by their refusal to listen to them.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 13:49, Reply)

"bearly"
love it!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:24, Reply)

I can never keep those two straight, they both look wrong to me.
That spelling looks like it's to do with bears, the other one looks like it relates to nudity, it's always a 50/50 guess and I'm usually wrong.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:27, Reply)

I'd vote for nudity
*strips*
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:30, Reply)

My eyes!

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:40, Reply)

*windmills*

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:43, Reply)

Mr Speaker, I ask of you and the rest of the house, shall we purchase our Paper Goods from Viking Direct or WH Smiths Wholesale? And as to the representative of the oppersite, I implore you, our side simply doesn't not care where one purchases printer car
tridges... you may simply find a good source of them and we shall agree unremitantly.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:29, Reply)

Fuck democracy.
DICTATORSHIP NOW!!!!
( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:18, Reply)

This^
Bagsy me for king.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:19, Reply)

No, I said dictatorship. No Kings.
MMPS FOR GRAND HIGH PRIME VIZIER OF SMASHING NICE BRITAIN!!
( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:22, Reply)

I vote Tom Baker to do the voiceovers for the propaganda films.

( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:24, Reply)

BRIAN BLESSED!

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:24, Reply)

They both can.
DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE!!!!!!
( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:26, Reply)

Actually I vote Joanna Lumley to give ANY bad news
I told Mrs Cow if I diagnosed with a terminal illness I want her to tell me
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:28, Reply)

Enough of this "voting"
Any more of that and you'll be deported to the gulags of Dundee.
( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:30, Reply)

I liked Dundee
I ended up balls deep in a very fit lady PE teacher there
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:32, Reply)

Oh dear, posted online so clearly a lie.
You can be the minister for the interior.
( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:32, Reply)

haha!
GUARDS!! Bring me the head of Gervais now! I need a new ashtray
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:34, Reply)

YES!

( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:37, Reply)

At first I wanted to see a black president, I never thought I'd see one, so I told people "I'll do blah blah when there is a BLACK MAN in the WHITE HOUSE".
But now that's happened, I wanna see what other kinds of cool presidents we can get, I want a latino one or a gay one or a women one. Let's try and see what kinds of presidents we can get.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:34, Reply)

A redneck. That'd be fun.

( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:37, Reply)

When are you sending me my beer money?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:16, Reply)

When I am king dilly dilly.

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:18, Reply)

But I'm thirsty noooow
*whines*
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:20, Reply)

Well ask Grand High Prime Vizier Mumps
Maybe he has something you can drink.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:28, Reply)

Buckfast? No thanks

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:30, Reply)

RIGHT! Off to Dundee with you.
GUARDS, remove this.... thing.
( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:32, Reply)

Do your sums take into account
- The cost of doing up those slummy parts of london that would have to have been spent anyway
- The income from having an increased tourest population during that time.
- The resale of property and assets relating to the stadiums, parks and villages
- Not that you can put a figure on it, but 'national pride', for lack of a better word.
- The export in goods pertaining to an increase to the UK as a brand.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:27, Reply)

No.
My sums are just dividing the budget by the population.

You may however fuck right off with you national pride and UK as a fucking brand.

As for the rest I thought I'd heard that most cities lost out as a whole from staging the Olympics in the past, but I can stand to be proved wrong.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:31, Reply)

sydney made a large profit.
Athens didn't do too badly, lost a little but has the slight disadvatage of being Greece, and thus being infinitely more of a corrupt fuck up then we are. Beijing is difficult to call because the info is unlikely to be true.

Most of the olympics before Sydney made a loss but aren't really fair comparison as the commercial aspect is at a different level these days.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:35, Reply)

*stands corrected*
*still doesn't want the Olympics*
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:41, Reply)

Perhaps you could go on holiday oop north whilst it is on?
I'm sure BGB would be very accomodating.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:45, Reply)

This might not be a bad idea.
I was thinking of goin walking/cycling in either the Lakes or Scotland in the summer anyway, this might be the perfect time to do that. I must check the dates.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:49, Reply)

Nononono, UK as a brand is very important.
Instertutionaly and quentisentichily british brands will see a dramatic increase in sale of overseas products, such as Marmite.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:36, Reply)

You see back there where I said you could fuck right off with this bullshit?
Please do so.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:42, Reply)

It's a small thing to factor in, but it's still a real thing.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:45, Reply)

www.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post1468841
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:48, Reply)

they don't even take into account the money from ticket sales
I doubt. Because there's no fun in the press pimping "In reality, olympics might costs a few pence per person or might make a few pence per person but we've really no fucking idea until it's been and gone" as a story.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:32, Reply)

I'll tell you what's 'wrong' though, they origionally stated something like half a billion and it's now like 12 billion.
I pulled those figures out my ass just now but the percentages aren't far off. It feels like we were cheated into doing something we would have done anyway.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:38, Reply)

really?
I'd like to see the numbers if that was actually the case. I thought there'd been a slight increase in some areas but some stuff was actually under-budget?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:39, Reply)

I'm 99% sure of it.
www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200708/cmselect/cmpubacc/85/85.pdf - £3.4b from the public

I'm pretty sure we're to £9b from the public sector now.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:43, Reply)

£9.3b is the figure I used in my 'sums'

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:47, Reply)

273% over budget.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:49, Reply)

Ah, right, that's from the inital estimate prior to being awarded, though.
It's not an increase in budget since the project started.

It's still a fair leap, I grant you, but it's not a "project going overbudget" thing.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:48, Reply)

But it was that estimate that we used in order to say 'yes' or 'no' to the whole thing.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:51, Reply)

in this sense CQ is spot on
"we" didn't say yes or no to anything. Anyway, the budget is meaningless to you or I, it's just a number.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:53, Reply)

Of course I fucking am.
Now join my revolutionary army and we'll topple the tyrant Mumps.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:55, Reply)

Did "we"? Which "we" is this Gonz?
I had no idea you were personally involved.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:54, Reply)

He's doing the catering
catering press releases
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 13:00, Reply)

Actually, 'we' in this case is quite right.
'we' the people voted in for 'our' goverment who agreed to the terms of taking on the olympics. They are our representives chosen by us. In the same we 'we' went into Iraq.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 13:01, Reply)

I swear you spout this shit just to wind me up gonz.
I'm not biting today. I'm off to kick a kitten, just for you.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 13:04, Reply)

It's not my fault that we didn't vote in a tory goverment fast enough and therefore gave Tony Blair and his lot an extra 4 years of fucking up this country.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 13:09, Reply)

www.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post1468924
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 13:17, Reply)

If you didn't want us to have a tory goverment then maybe you should have tried harder at campagning ?
Typical lefty, never wanted to put the work in.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 13:10, Reply)

www.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post1468924
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 13:17, Reply)

Unless they make a stupendous bollocks of it, it will break even.
It should make a profit. These numbers are simply being flung around by a press determined to force their own agenda.

I don't particulary care personally but it's arse to say the populace don't want it. A metric cuntload of people applied for tickets to something they don't want to see if that's the case.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:30, Reply)

I think I'd rather go see that Human Planet Live instead, if I have a choice.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:32, Reply)

You should know me well enough by now to know that I give not one shit what the papers say
nor, in this instance have I read them.

I never said the populous don't want it. I said I don't. I still reckon you might find a sizeable minority (especially us poor sods who live in London) who don't want it and an awful lot of meh.

Anyway that was not the point. The question was about "those unfair things in life, big or small, that STILL get to you. the pettier the better." and this is one that annoys me. Rest rest of the population can agree of fuck right off.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:35, Reply)

well, true, but you then went on to complain about the government making choices without consulting the populace
but I take your point.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:36, Reply)

Well, that was either "Wah!, they didn't ask me!"
or responding to AL's silliness, depending which bit you mean. I would quite like to live in a more direct democracy personally, but that wasn't my original point.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:45, Reply)

yeah but i was kind of thinking more
along the lines of "my local m&s doesn't sell the smoked chilli mayo that i like" or "there's no bank holiday between august and christmas" or "badger wears pink socks but he still gets the birds".

you know. first world problems.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:39, Reply)

OK, how about:
The city I live in will be full of shitty tourists and 'sports' people and all the public transport will be fucked up and it's bound to be annoying and inconvenient and annoying to me personally.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:46, Reply)

When does it start?
I think I'll stay away from London for a while.
( girlinthehole, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:48, Reply)

You need to stay at home
I've just offered for Quey to stay at yours whilst it is on: www.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post1468851
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:50, Reply)

He knows I always have a bed for him if he needs it.

( girlinthehole, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:51, Reply)

Smooth

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:52, Reply)

*trigger fingers*

( girlinthehole, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:52, Reply)

I'm seriously considering a camping holiday fr from all media for the duration.
My only worry is that several of my colleagues will do the same.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:57, Reply)

Well early June we'll be at Doninton for five days.

( girlinthehole, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:58, Reply)

Apparently the games are late July/early august
perfect time for a nice summer camping trip.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 13:03, Reply)

Oh well.
Better book the time off soon before everyone else gets the same idea.
( girlinthehole, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 13:05, Reply)

Yes, very true, I think I'll book it first thing in the new year.

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 13 Dec 2011, 13:06, Reply)

Donnington is 7th to 11th June.
Five days and three nights.
( girlinthehole, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 13:08, Reply)

How does that work?
What happened to the fourth night? Or does one of the days run straight through into another?
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 13:12, Reply)

Lol
Me and my silly ways.
( girlinthehole, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 13:17, Reply)

Norwich is nice at that time of year
* may contain traces of lie
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:58, Reply)

Move?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:49, Reply)

Still, when I move my office into the living room and shove a matris I found in the street on the floor, I'll get £250/night for that, even though I'm on the opersite end of london.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 13 Dec 2011, 12:52, Reply)