Jamie Oliver
The 'Go Compare' cunt.
Monty Boyce
Michael Gove
El Hornet out of Pendulum
Michael Gove
Michael Portillo
Jeff the dog fucker
Cliff Richard, just for lolz
Deauxma
The Jolly Green Giant
Monty Boyce
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:41, 4 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

Are you jesting re JTDF & Monty?
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:42, Reply)

I never jest.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:43, Reply)

We can no longer be friends.
Monty and especially Jeff are not to be touched.
( girlinthehole, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:56, Reply)

Except by you, right?

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:58, Reply)

*smirks*

( girlinthehole, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:01, Reply)

Needs MOAR Michael Gove

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:44, Reply)

Double whammy- Gove and Portillo.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:45, Reply)

I though Portillo was one of those people who garnered cross-spectrum respect?

(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:46, Reply)

Nope.
He stood up in the Commons as a Tory MP and defended the Poll Tax.

He also, in his speech when he lost his seat in 1997, used to attack his opponent's sexuality.

He was outed a short time after.

The man is a cunt.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:47, Reply)

my troll detector went off on his last post

(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:48, Reply)

Defenfing the policy of an elected government is allright by me.
openly attacking Twiggs queerity? That is indeed very wrong. I am aware of the famous moment. Bit rich coming from him I guess.
I do not have enough info to form an opinion tbh.
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:50, Reply)

The Poll Tax was indefensible.
You realise that it was the Poll Tax wot finished off Thatcher?
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:54, Reply)

+ her meglomania and increasing mental health issues.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:55, Reply)

Yes.
It was wrong to implement it at the time, but is there really no way you could ever accept any politician showing support for flat tax?
Its not something I support but it hardly figures with the Nazi's.
That to me is only that kind of thing that is "indefensible".
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:57, Reply)

haha - inverse Godwin's Law
"it's not as bad as the Nazi's is it?"
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:58, Reply)

I dont like the policies of any democratic political party being called "indefensible"

(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:59, Reply)

The NASDWP were elected.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:59, Reply)

They weren't democratic, in the sense that they accepted the electorates right to not vote for them at a future election.
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:00, Reply)

No, they were democratically elected.
They were voted in to power.

They had an elected mandate.

How many ways do you want me to say it?
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:03, Reply)

That isn't enough to make them democratic.
To be democratic, you need to relive in the continued existence of the system.
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:03, Reply)

But they gained power in a free and democratic election.
So there was a mandate for their policies. They took part in a democratic election and won.

Please defend their policies.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:05, Reply)

I can not
because they did not allow further elections.
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:06, Reply)

I thought you said that a democratic party couldn't have any indefensible policies?
Oh dear. Think before you speak, eh?
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:10, Reply)

But this does not apply to the poll tax.

(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:18, Reply)

And I think that brings us full circle
www.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post1501769
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:20, Reply)

The Poll Tax was indefensible.
It was constructed specifically to hit the poor far harder than the rich and was meted out to the Scots a year early as punishment for not supporting Thatcher.

Defend that, you testicle-brained nitwit.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:20, Reply)

"and was meted out to the Scots a year early as punishment for not supporting Thatcher"
That isn't true, It was tested on Scotland to see if it was viable, and also because Scottish Businesses had actually pressured the government to introduce it to make running their enterprises more easily. It was. Also, I notice that Scots hated Thatcher so much that until 1997 the Conservatives were the clear second largest party in Scotland, and always got a percentage of the vote in the Mid to High 20's.
Yes, Scotland is disistrested in the Tories, the numbers suggest that was Majors fault for opposing devolution in the late 90's.
I can't support the fact that it took money away from the less well off in the UK. But I can defend peoples right to hold the opinion that because they were one person living in a house or whatever, the poll tax was good for them and the government had a right to impose it.
That will be my last political post today.
Thank you, you've been lovely, moi, moi, catches roses, leaves stage.
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:33, Reply)

It was tested out on Scotland because they detested Thatcher and she had nothing to lose by doing so.
The rest of that post is utter nonsense.

You want to me go through it point by point?
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:39, Reply)

Why do you argue with him?

( girlinthehole, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:40, Reply)

It's funny.
He thinks he can compete but he lacks the wit, the nerve, the skill and the effortless good looks.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:42, Reply)

No thanks.
Facts don't lie.
the Scottish Tories
1979- 32%, 83- 29%, 87- 24%, 92- 26%, 97- 18%.
97 is when the vote collapsed. They had 12 MPs until 92, even at their lowest.
Even if everyone else in Scotland despised them, and I won't argue with that, they had a base that was in % terms larger than Labour's base in England.
Bye.
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:41, Reply)

You silly wee boy.
Go and read some fucking books, or better yet, ask a grown up to read one to you.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:43, Reply)

Plus, the BNP are 'democratic'.
Would you care to defend their policies please?
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:00, Reply)

They have frequently hinted that democracy would not be allowed under them.

(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:01, Reply)

But they have candidates in democratic elections.
Ergo they are at present a democratic party. They take part in the democratic system.

Please defend their policies.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:04, Reply)

If indeed they were democratic
I would say that even though every single policy of theirs I detest logically, emotionally, and rationally (as a right-liberal rather than a left authoritarian), they have a right to hold them and there would be nothing inherently evil about them, just wrong on a utilitarian level.
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:08, Reply)

I thought you said that a democratic party couldn't have any indefensible policies?

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:09, Reply)

They are defensible, they just would not make me feel good about living in the UK.

(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:11, Reply)

Go on then, defend the BNP's policies.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:12, Reply)

... Oh, Touche, I CBA.

(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:14, Reply)

You mean you can't.
So you prove my point.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:16, Reply)

But this does not apply to the poll tax, hypothetically
if it were imposed in a nation with very high personal wealth.
There is not anything Inherently logistically or morally wrong with ALL flat taxes everywhere.
The Poll tax was wrong for the UK, does not mean that its imposition was devoid of good faith or reason, or that it could not work elsewhere.
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:21, Reply)

But Thatcher brought it in in the UK.
So what you are saying is a total irrelevance.

Learn to debate, you fool.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:24, Reply)

Flat taxes are inherently unfair.
And the poll tax was doubly unfair in that households with more people in them paid more, as it was a per head tax.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:59, Reply)

That hasn't stopped you before.

( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:55, Reply)

respect dislike and suspicion
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:48, Reply)

I can't keep this up for all your posts, so can you just assume that I am replying to them all with:
Prick
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:48, Reply)

I am sure you meant to say weapons-grade-cunt instead of such a minor label.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:49, Reply)

'E ain't worf it, Batto

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:51, Reply)

I got a hell of a lot of respect for Jamie Oliver, he's an amazing person.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:50, Reply)

Talented chef, but fat tongued mockney. Did good stuff re school dinners. Shame nobody of any influence took any notice.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:54, Reply)

Jamie Oliver is a massive cunt and a mediocre chef.
It's a long running joke in high level chef circles that Oliver has never had a Michelin Star.

He's a fat tongued, mockney, Toploader-liking, spittle-spraying cunt.

I wouldn't eat anything he'd cooked, it would be full of his pukka saliva.

The fat tongued cunt.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:56, Reply)

Did some good campaigning work though.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:57, Reply)

Self-publicity, the hypocritical, bleating prick.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:01, Reply)

Again I differ in opinion.

( girlinthehole, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:04, Reply)

That TV show where he got those kids and trained them up.
He was on that, telling them all that he'd put his house on the line, his restaurants, everything, and that if 15 failed he was fucked. Skint. Ruined. Bankrupt.

He was doing Sainsbury's advertising campaigns at the time.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:08, Reply)

the ad campaigns probably helped fund the training
you retard
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:10, Reply)

You fuckwit.
If he lost a load of money he could just do a few more ads and have a few more million.

You fucking idiot.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:12, Reply)

every little helps

(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:15, Reply)

Tesco.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:16, Reply)

making life taste better

(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:17, Reply)

life my cock.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:18, Reply)

i did wash it with my girlfriend's strawberry soap the other day
then went around telling everyone my cock was like a lollipop
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:22, Reply)

Who cares.
He has a family to feed. You do what you do to survive. I believe in his ethos even though I don't really enjoy cooking myself that much.

People are too cynical nowadays.
( girlinthehole, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:12, Reply)

The only reply I can think to this is "Yeah'.... and?".

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:13, Reply)

Meaning he was spouting yet more bullshit.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:15, Reply)

He did have to remortgage his home a few times throughout his carrer, as do a lot of buisness owners.
It's hardly the worst bullshit anyone has said for TV, if it even was at all. Fifteen has cost absolute millions, it doesn't mean he could front that sort of cash himself at that point in time... nobody here knows what his money was at the time.

Besides, he was probably told to say so on account of the whole "Good for TV" thing.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:19, Reply)

You mean...
'Besides, he was lying just to keep his fat smug mediocre-chef face on TV'
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:22, Reply)

Cooking isn't all about Michelin Stars.
It's about making tasty every day food and getting the public to enjoy cooking again.

If I had to choose between eating at home with Jamie or one of the Roue brothers, then I know who I'd choose.
( girlinthehole, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:00, Reply)

The Roux brother, right?

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:01, Reply)

I know.
But you knew what I meant.
( girlinthehole, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:02, Reply)

Bang on.
I watched a show about The Michelin Madness, about how people go crazy on their first star just trying to keep even, when if they kept to what they were doing, they would be heading upwards.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:06, Reply)

It's stupid.
I'm all about passion for food. You have a passion for food and that's more important than what it looks or to a certain extent tastes like. If I visited rural France, I would rather have a home cooked dinner than one of those fancy restaurants.
( girlinthehole, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:10, Reply)

French quizeen has never done it for me, but I totally get your point.
I guess it's like the difference between an artist and a decorator. Both are essenchal to the subject of design.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:12, Reply)

He's never been about the stars though, I'd be more piss-taking of the Hairy Bikers who ovbously these days are about the the ponce but wont' ever see a star.
1) He has a lovely family, who he treats right, and they do well out of him
2) He's bought an entire revival of home-cooking to the homes of a lot of people
3) Ok, he's not star worthy in the slightest, but that is far from everything, and it _can_ be depriemental... look at how many resturants go under within the first two years of getting a star. Suddenly people think they have to book to get in.
4) His books and shows are actually very good.
5) His campaigning, not only schools but for troubled youths, is exactly what this country needs.

Ok, if I was given a chance to go to any resturant for free in london/uk/world/etc, he wouldn't be even in the top 5... and the meal I got at Recipease was very disapointing (but the pasta lesson was amazing)... but as a person and to a lesser extent a cook, I think he's a great man.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:04, Reply)

Talented chef?
Are you on fucking drugs?
( blaireau69 , the Cumbrian Travis Bickle., Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:58, Reply)

I HARDLY SEE HOW HIS ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION IS RELEVANT

(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:00, Reply)