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Thanks for deleting your fucking thread Battered I just posted a pleasant reply. m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25939908
Good idea? Nanny state?
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If people are stupid enough to smoke in front of their kids, how the fuck were they allowed to breed in the first place?Evolution has failed us
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rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 8:37,
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I gave my iPad away yesterday, fucking sick of itMy nexus 7 does everything better and fits in my pocket.
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Peej, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 8:50,
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I don't think you understand evolutionOr the law regarding reproducing
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tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 8:40,
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alright tuibStill no word on that Mogwai album. The last one I bought was Mr Beast, the ones since then I just torrented.
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It's no wonder their output is of diminishing quality if you insist on stealing from them and depriving them of their income.(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 8:45,
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Zidane was superb.That soundtrack for Les Revenants was alright an' all.
They'll never match the quality of Young Team abd CODY though.
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I understand them fine I could just do them much better
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rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:00,
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Well no, evolution by natural selection requires some good judgement when choosing partners.(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:02,
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I never smoke anywhere near micro, I never smoke in my house, or in the car, even if she isn't there. I'm thinking of using the electronic ones again. Got these: www.skycig.co.uk/kits/freedom
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Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 8:41,
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I'm thinking of using the electronic ones tooI don't smoke, I just fancy being addicted to nicotine.
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Peej, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 8:46,
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Its the future PJI have tried them a couple of times but as I smoke rollies the fucking size and weight of the things puts me off
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I'm sure I heard somewhere that there are kids doing just this.(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 8:47,
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It was in the Mail and if its in the Mail it must be true. It's in colour.(
Peej, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 8:49,
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I bet the immigrants made the kids "vape" in order to steal their jobs
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It appears that Dozer is being an even bigger idiot than usual. (
Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 8:38,
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God I love it when he is so alternative and wacky It makes me glad that he's 300 miles away and I am not one of his colleagues
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rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 8:40,
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you seem a bit upset about posts on a comedy messageboard, maybe you should have a deep breath before you have one of your lol seizures(, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 8:40, Reply)
Not upset at all. That's Jason's job. (
Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 8:41,
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upset enough to delete your thread and then immediately repost itIn a foamy mouthed attempt to ensure that your thread was the one which would garner replies.
Bit needy that.
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No idea what you're talking about. (
Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 8:44,
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STOP POSTING THAT ! STOP IT ! STOP IT !
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G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩€, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:17,
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It's a silly buggers day!(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 8:40,
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www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=silly%20buggers
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tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 8:48,
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One who fucks a man up the arse whilst dressed as a clownIt differs from a daft bugger who is one who realizes he has locked his keys in the car whilst fucking a man (the same man or a different one, it matters not) up the arse.
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Peej, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 8:48,
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I would be interested in your medical opinion docI think its a bloody stupid idea, now I know its quite a polarising issue but at the moment smoking isn't illegal and I get sick of being victimised by successive govs just because I do something that they both allow and make a huge amount of money from in taxes. If they just made it illegal then fair enough but they never go that far.
I don't smoke around people who don't smoke (unless they are happy to be there) and even if I offer an adult a lift in my car I let them know etc.
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The point is that lots of smokers can convince themselves that it's ok to smoke in certain circumstances, like in their car.There can't be a person alive who doesn't understand the health implications of smoking, yet people are great at ignoring the facts, which is why there needs to be legislation for this sort of thing.
The facts speak for themselves - following the 2006 smoking ban, many people gave up altogether, or changed their habits so they didn't smoke in their house, etc.
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tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 8:58,
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Basically I'm advocating a nanny state here.(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 8:58,
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Nazi ^I am all for people quitting, but until a government comes out and makes smoking illegal then they should simply leave us the fuck alone. Make information available etc. but stop making more and more draconian laws.
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That's fine for nice sensible educated middle class people, but the proles really do need their hands holding through some tough decisions.(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:10,
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We benefit the countryBuying a hugely taxed product (the more than covers the cost of NHS treatment) and we die younger, reducing the strain on pensions for you non smokers... You lot should build me a fucking statue.
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I'm not arguing for a total ban, I'm saying I agree with legislating to stop people smoking in their cars with their kids.(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:14,
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WHERES MY FUCKING STATUE?The problem is that it is a blanket ban that wont be effective because the sort of people that it targets are the sort of people that are cunts and will ignore it. As Batts says up there (using him as a reasonably educated smoker) he doesn't do it around his kids, I know you also state that but the problem, as I see it, is that there is always a draconian approach to these things. It doesn't target the problem.
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It's about changing people's mindsetsOf course it won't prevent all instances, but it will make a significant and noticeable difference.
Prohibition rarely works effectively - Cf. drugs policy for the last 50 years
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tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:23,
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I always find it weird how the only people who are pro a ban seem to be smokers, and the only people pro these pathetic nagging little "Put the prices up", "Smoke in less than less places" are non-smokers.
Might as well make ashtrays illegal and lighters £5,
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G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩€, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:24,
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alrightI stopped about a year ago. Just stopped, cold turkey. I'd been smoking since I was 12. Don't miss it at all.
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Your beautiful skin will attest to the changes(
sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:00,
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I know babe.Plus, the expensive colognes I wear don't need to fight past a fug of stale smoke, so the chicks benefit as well.
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I've never smokedapart from the occasional joint but even that was years ago now
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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:03,
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I can't smoke weed these days, it gives me TEH FEARServes me right for caning it for the best part of 20 Years.
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yer I knowI can only smoke it when I'm off my tits on bumbles innit.
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I only smoked it when drinking(
sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:07,
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Of courseIts much more upper class to smoke illegal drugs when not drinking
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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:10,
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Unfortunately there are no medals for such bravery.In fact, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who really cares.
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tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:01,
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My parents gave up when we had the calvesMy Mam stopped about 3 days after calf 1 was born. Dad waited until he'd smoked all his reserves of baccy first.
7 years and counting now.
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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:02,
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20 years of it won't have done any harm to your body at all (
rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:06,
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Good idea not smoking in cars with kids, yesMy parents used to do this and it was fucking horrible.
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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:00,
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my taxi driver is properly ranting about this now he makes a good point about banning fags in cars altogether - if you drop it, you're going to take your hands off the wheel to grab it because that shit BURNS
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rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:04,
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What kind of a spazhands drops their cigarette?(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:05,
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the same kind of spaz who smokes and does that to their lungs and skin etc etc etc (
rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:07,
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But smoking is cool, rach(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:07,
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Who ling until you find out that the skin creams etc. that you no doubtplaster yourself with have a long term ill effect on you. There have already been issues with nano particles getting into the skin.
the whole lungs skin argument is pointless, was your taxi driver drinking a can of coke? did he have a bar of chocolate etc etc. you would still look down/ reach down if you dropped either of them
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Him smoke um pipe of peace(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:16,
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it stinks, it's anti-social, it is expensive, it stains your teeth and fingers, it gives you much more risk of real nasties... urgh come on man, you're better than the cancersticks!(
rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:18,
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Don't knock it until you've tried it for 20 years otr more(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:24,
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Rach thats a really simplistic answerIt wasn't anti social when I started (and I am now an addict) there are many things that give you a risk of the nasties. Expensive yes I will give you that, but again so are many other things. I appreciate you are very anti smoking but the arguments against can be easily countered.
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Remember the good old days when everyone smoked?It really was something you could share together.
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tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:26,
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I am actually in favour of non smoking rulesWhat I think should be allowed is the chance for adults to choose.
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they choose to smoke or not smokeIf they choose to smoke then they are also choosing to have to smoke outside.
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^this^Tell froggles to pack it in, it stunts growth and buggers your sex life.
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I'm quite pro smoker's rights, I think the smoking ban went way to far, but anyone who smokes a fag in a car with children is a fucking idiot.(
G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩€, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:06,
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I'm quite pro non smokers rightsI'm pretty fucking happy that I can go out to a restaurant/pub/club without breathing that shit in and stinking of fags by the end of the night.
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Peej, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:18,
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*Ctrl+F*, J A S O... hold up now, nobody has done a gay joke here yet?I don't see whats wrong with designated venues where smoking is allowed under the pretext of Own Risk. Make every product/service in there at a preimium to pay for the lisancing; even in New York, where I think the smoking bans started, have Smoking Clubs.
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G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩€, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:26,
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I would have prefered a smoking and non smoking option thoughso adults can choose their environment.
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adults can choose thoughThey didn't have the choice before, they had second hand smoke inflicted on them.
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I agree you seem to be getting the wrong end of my statementWhere is the choice now? Its non smoking or nothing... I always felt there should have been an option for both, so if a non smoking goes into a designated smoking pub etc. then they are aware of what they are doing. and vice versa, I would have been even harder and said that a non smoking establishment would have to have an exclusion zone
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.... and the smoking pub could even have some mega ventalation thing too.(
G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩€, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:52,
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That's because you're a fucking idiot who doesn't understnad what you're talking aboutthe crux of the issue is people who have jobs in pubs shouldn't have to work in smoke filled environments
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Bazongaloid, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:53,
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Smoking will kill you early basically. It's a fucking horrendous habit.Subjecting your kids to it is bad. Really, really bad. My parents smoked lkke chimneys, car trips were a nightmare.If you have to do it, do it locked away in a sealed room somewhere please
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as will drinkingas will eating red meat...
come on doc, I agree that smoking increases your risk of certain cancers etc. However I would counter argue that living in a densely populated city does as much damage to your lungs and you wouldn't say to everyone not to live in London etc.
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I think a smoker living in the Lake District would be more at risk than a non-smoker living in London(
sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:19,
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This may be trueBUT I DONT WANT YOU TO DIE!
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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:33,
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Overall if you are prone to cancers then you will get themSmoking merely increases this risk,
I don't want to worry you all but:
NON SMOKERS DIE EVERYDAY.
I get to have one of those cool electronic voice doodads before I go. What do you get?
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You inhale more carcinogens standing over a bbq than you would of over 2 weeks in a fully smoke filled room
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citation from an actual published peer reviewd papernot a blog
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Bazongaloid, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:52,
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The National Institute of Health, Dept. of Health and Human Services Look it up yourself you idle cunt
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I will also give you thiswww.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/study-finds-no-clear-link-between-lung-cancer-and-secondhand-smoke-9004077.html
Jury is still out
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no, I said actual citation, not a report by a newspaper based on a press release from a research company with no other evidence at all.(
Bazongaloid, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:59,
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Oh well done, okay it's a published fact that using internet forums with teh username containing the "bonzo" and "dog" means you have a micropenisdon't believe me? look it up yourself.
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Bazongaloid, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:58,
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Cool...Have done...
Its true.
Come on Al you argue better than this,
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You havne't produced a single piece of evidence to argue against yet, just mindless comments(
Bazongaloid, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 10:03,
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Soz, but burden of proof is on the person making the claim. Namely that grilling sausages is as dangerous as living for two weeks in a fag smoke filled room.
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Kroney, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 10:08,
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okweb.sls.hw.ac.uk/teaching/derek_j/mol_tox/reading/mutagens/files/Mutation%20research.pdf
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Right, I'm not a scientist and I'll admit to only scan-reading thatBut I'm pretty sure that doesn't say what you said
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tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 10:21,
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its research intoHCA's and mutagens.
I am not a scientist either so don't have access to the papers and wouldn't know where to start looking but its a start
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Oh come on, I'm mostly on your side hereBut this is arse gravy
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tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:56,
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See above^It is easy to use the facts that support the bits of an argument you want.
BBQ smoke has been added to the list of cancer causing things, and yet secondhand smoke has, so far, shown no statistically evidence...
Its all horseshit
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how long do you ahve to stand over this imaginary BBQ before you get the greater exposure you talk about?What fuel does this BBQ burn? Is this on a still day or a windy day?
I'm not saying your talking shit about something you have no evidence for ... no, I am saying that.
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Bazongaloid, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 10:02,
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A couple of times a year yes.40 times a day, in the car, no.Where the hell is B3th? She should be backing me up here.
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She's too busy helping people to quit smoking.And doling out methadone scripts
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tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:57,
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Well no. However is drawing nicotine, tar and all the other shite into your lungs necessary? Do you enjoy addiction? Do you enjoy paying fuck knows how much a week to maintain an antisocial, smelly, lifethratening habit? Seriously mate, it's crap.
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Smokers stink and they don't even know the filthy beggars(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:24,
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I haven't been to a club since the ban came in.To be fair, the only time I used to go to them was when I was either plastered or high, so I can't imagine I'd notice.
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Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 10:10,
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Not for long enough to get addicted then(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:28,
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10 yearsBut I have will power so I quit. None of this electronic bullshit
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:29,
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me too!We're so cool. A the people I know that have successfully quit and never started again did so because they thought "right, that's enough". Not because some gimmick said "this'll make it easy!"
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Kroney, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:54,
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I'm in my third year.I fell off the wagon for one evening last August, as I was in Las Vegas, drinking champagne, and it was the right thing to do.
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Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 10:05,
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Hahahha yeahMy low opinion on high end gaming and board games are well documented
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:29,
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no no, board games, high end gaming, Oasis and home brew are all SUPERCOOL(, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 9:33, Reply)
I have NEVER tasted a decent home brew, or one that didn't give me a BANGING hangover.Homebrewing is shit.
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Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 10:02,
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I could do with the back up of more smokersThey must all be wheezing outside trying to catch up
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