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Amy Johnson
80 years ago today, less than a year after she gained her full pilot's licence, Amy Johnson set off from Britain to fly single handed to Australia. Which she achieved 19 days later thus becoming the first woman to complete such a journey. Prior to this she had gained a BA in Economics and become the first woman to qualify as an aircraft engineer.

Which woman from history do you think deserves greater recognition?
Who do you think is currently a good role model for young women/girls?
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:10, 88 replies, latest was 16 years ago)
My mum
and Psychochomp
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:13, Reply)
Your mum.

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:16, Reply)
She might have been able to fly
but she couldn't swim very well.
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:17, Reply)
Proof, if it were needed, that Swimming Lessons > Economics Degree.

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:26, Reply)
Me.
Apart from my bad spelling, grammar and inability to get laid, I'm perfect.
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:17, Reply)
I trust that this is a suggestion for "current role model"
and that you're not classing yourself as a woman from history?

Actually in the coming years as I grow more into my role as "Victorian Father" inability to get laid will be something I encourage.

* Disappears to begin building a study in which to interrogate daughter's future suitors"
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:23, Reply)
I am a current role model but not far from being a woman from history.

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:26, Reply)
Jordan
Making money out of nothing is a skill I aspire to
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:18, Reply)
Josephine Butler
And currently?
Me.
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:20, Reply)
Amen to that.

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:21, Reply)
Alright sista!

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:24, Reply)
Did you see the programme about her on BBC4 a while ago?
She was amazing.
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:25, Reply)
I'd never heard of her before
If Wikipedia is to be believed, she sounds like a remarkable woman.

Though admittedly I did originally read Roota's post as "Josephine Baker"...
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:28, Reply)
Ooops!
and me.
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:29, Reply)
Also awesome, but for very different reasons

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:30, Reply)
Having checked Wiki......I concurr.

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:32, Reply)
But, alas, it is 1888, and I am but a woman

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 14:12, Reply)
And I agree
I often have to think hard before saying either of their names, just to make sure.
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:33, Reply)
Aw gutted
I've been looking for a docu on old Butler hahah
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:32, Reply)
No I did not.
Some cunting developer has just illegally knocked down a listed building named after her near me though. She did good shit at our workhouse. When my nana was young, she knew an old lady who had lived there and had some sad tales.
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:29, Reply)
Tenuous historical connection there
I farted on Florence Nightingale on Saturday.

She deserved it for being mean to Mary Seacole.
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:32, Reply)
Yeah, we have a Florence Nightingale building that's now a hotel
And it's right in Toxteth.
They should rename it for Mary.

How did you fart on her?
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:35, Reply)
I sat on her tomb, and it just came out.
www.wellow-nightingale.co.uk/
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:39, Reply)
That's one camp url.

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:41, Reply)
Ha!

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:46, Reply)
Is Toxteth better or worse tahn Croxteth?

I did notice a while back that google had street viewed all of Liverpool except Croxteth.
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:41, Reply)
Better
I mean, Toxteth is where the riots were in the early 80s, but it's fine. It's a more multi-cultural and at times bohemian place. it's to the south of the city.
Croxteth is north-end and, I'm sorry to say, more hostile. You stick out a lot there if you're not white and in standard scally clothing. I've got mates from there who are lovely people, but most of them have 'escaped'. It can be quite unpleasant for the nice old people who can't get out of there or are attached to their homes.

Toxteth appears to be on the up. Despite the occasional bit of aggro that you'd get on any city estate.
I must add that Crockie is massive and I'm sure there are nice parts ;)
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:51, Reply)
Sensible, well thought out reply alert!

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:54, Reply)
I try, occasionally ;)

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:59, Reply)
Is this the one that they paid nearly 5 million for
and are knocking it down to put in 16 parking spaces.over 300k a space!
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 14:17, Reply)
It's gone
Knocked down. There's an extension left but I bet that will be gone soon too.
Within days of aquiring it and agreeing to the order, they took all the cladding off and started dismantling it.
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 14:28, Reply)
Who is Josephine Butler?
and no, I can't be arsed to google her
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:31, Reply)
She was a Victorian feminist who helped prositutes.
Basically.
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:33, Reply)
Pimp?

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:38, Reply)
Ha, that or a merkin maker

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:40, Reply)
I don't know,
I saw an unconvincing transvestite singing bowie covers last night.
I'll go for her.
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:21, Reply)
That was Monty.

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:27, Reply)
Can't have been.
Monty's a very convincing ladyboy.
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:31, Reply)
I think Eve has had a bad press.
She was a slapper though.
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:23, Reply)
I thought Lilith was worse though?

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:25, Reply)
Yeah, she gave Niles a rotten time.

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:26, Reply)
Cheerslolz
(I didn't see much Frasier)
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:26, Reply)
Bugger,
I mixed her up with Maris.

*shames*
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:29, Reply)
Did she not go out with both of them?
Lilith I mean.
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:30, Reply)
She was married to Frasier.
Can't imagine her going out with Niles, and I'm not going to check.
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:33, Reply)

She did shag Niles once
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:39, Reply)
Piper?

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:33, Reply)
No, she was with Doctor Who,
Before she became a prossy.
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:34, Reply)
she was one of the Charmed girls

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 14:23, Reply)
That woman that can squirt from her pobber and knock a coke can off the top of a door frame

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:23, Reply)
Link please

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:24, Reply)
I am at work and am not searching. Cynthia something.

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:29, Reply)
I reckon most of those are faked

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:31, Reply)
probably.
I find when I stand near girls they take off like a hose rocket and plap around in their own milm like an out of water fish.
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:59, Reply)
MILM!!!!

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 14:00, Reply)
Did she have nice breasts?

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:30, Reply)
I reckon they were tiny but pert

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:31, Reply)
I don't remember ever seeing a picture of a female adventurer with big breasts.
I know it's stopped me from achieving my dream of climbing Mount Kilimanjaro without a bra on.
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:36, Reply)
They're not practical for exploring or climbing, or I guess even flying old planes
But they certainly don't stop you being successful in other ways.
Like Mae and Dolly.
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:38, Reply)
Do you mean become a Gay Icon?

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:40, Reply)
Haha
Well I know I'm one!
(In my small neighbourhood)
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:41, Reply)
I am not one bit surprised by this.

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:49, Reply)
It's cute that you've named them.
I am tempted to name my bollocks PJ and Duncan, but I can never remember which is the bigger one.
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 14:03, Reply)
Nah, my tits are Chas & Dave

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 14:04, Reply)
Fine choice.
dieselsweeties.com/archive/1234
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 14:09, Reply)
I'm watching Streetcar
So I'm gonna go for Vivien Leigh
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:39, Reply)
Aw God luv her, she was mentally ill :(
She was lovely in Waterloo Bridge.
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:40, Reply)
Jocelyn Bell Burrell
Astrophysicist.
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:40, Reply)
Sandi Toksvig surely?

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:44, Reply)
Haha!

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:47, Reply)
Yes.
Famous Danish lesbians.
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:51, Reply)
Ada Lovelace
Daughter of Lord Byron, Computer programmer, mathmatecal genius. Not many people realise how important she was to our understanding of computing. I guess that the general veiws people had of women at the time lead to her getting kinda sidelined.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Lovelace
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:44, Reply)
Didn't she do that porno film too.

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:47, Reply)
Yup.
(may not be factualy accurate)
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:50, Reply)
Didn't she discover the anti-gagging-reflex trick?

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:56, Reply)
Also she was brilliant in The Difference Engine.

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 14:04, Reply)
Mmm
I'm not sure this "doesn't get the recognition because she's a bird" belief is true. She's very well know, and I'm not sure I could name any other people in her field working at the same time?
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 14:28, Reply)
My ideal current role model
Oh yes baby.
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:47, Reply)
It seems to be something with dead flies in it.

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:47, Reply)
Would you like the recipe?

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:50, Reply)
what
- one roll of pastry
100 flies

1. kill flies
2. roll inside pastry
3. cook in oven
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:52, Reply)
You forgot the cochineal colouring
for added realism
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:55, Reply)
yummy

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 14:06, Reply)
Yes, looks like an Eccles cake.

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:50, Reply)
haha
and quite a lot too
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 13:50, Reply)
Mary Ann Cotton.
A true heroine.
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 14:00, Reply)
If she's so clever how come she's dead?

(, Wed 5 May 2010, 14:18, Reply)
Margaret Corbin
Yeah.
(, Wed 5 May 2010, 14:20, Reply)

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