Is it always so bad?
At the beginning of Spring I started to get very itchy, very puffy eyes, and was told that, suddenly, I've got hayfever. I'm taking my pills to reduce the sypmtoms, but still, the itchyness in my eyes really makes me wish I was blind and could move around and walk without having to open them.

Spring is the only season when the rain gives us a bit of a break in Manchester, and now I can't even enjoy that.

Is it going to be always like this or will it improve with time?

Which permanent things would you change to temporary and viceversa?
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:27, 112 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

you'll probably find it comes and goes
but if the stuff you are taking is still leaving you with symptoms then you need to try some different stuff.

Try Boots or Sainsburys or Tesco own brand non-browsy hayfever stuff. It's really cheap, and is the same as the more expensive stuff and it works.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:31, Reply)

That's what I'm taking
It stops me sneezing and the itchyness in the throat, but doesn't help with the eyes.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:32, Reply)

wear sunglasses more often
that helps
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:43, Reply)

Yes, I just said that
But I don't understand why.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:45, Reply)

it stops the pollen going in your eyes

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:48, Reply)

in which case it's time to get your steampunk on
and wear dirigible officers' goggles all the time
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:49, Reply)

I'd do that

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:50, Reply)

www.etsy.com/listing/50788138/steampunk-goggles-from-solid-brass?ref=sr_gallery_12&ga_search_query=steampunk+goggles&ga_search_type=handmade&ga_page=2&order=&includes[]=tags&includes[]=title
(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:59, Reply)

WANT

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:00, Reply)

I need to stop going on etsy :(
I only get depressed at all the awesome stuff I want so much but can't afford.
(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:03, Reply)

it's more dangerous to me in case
I become convinced I can make those things
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:04, Reply)

WOW
I think I'll stay with my safety sunglasses
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:08, Reply)

why am I not suprised?

(PsychoChomp, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:02, Reply)

Sadly, yes it is. Depending on what it actually is that you're allergic to, it will vary at different times of year,
But the little fucker will just keep coming back. Mine has gotten slightly better as I've gotten older, as has my mum's, although I do dose myself up on non-drowsy piriteze every day when I think I'll be spending time outside which gets rid of my symptoms completely. Also, wear sunglasses when you're out - sunny or not. You might look like a bit of a twat, but it stops your eyes from getting so bad.
(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:33, Reply)

Yes, I've noticed that
I don't know why, but sunglasses help a lot.

I've just started having it, at my 30s, so by the time it gets better I'm going to be all old :(
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:41, Reply)

AAAAAPPPPPLLLLLLLEEEEEEE
If I say I did another 3 mile walk this morning, will you know what I mean?
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:02, Reply)

LLLLAAAAMMMMMPPPYYYYY
Haha Ohhhh dear. Goss later please, I'm off out for a bit now.
I got THE FEAR this morning, my sister had to talk me down oFf a ledge. "It's not a date really! You're just hanging out. That's all!"
(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:05, Reply)

Oh yeah.
My facebook page is amusing. I basically got applauded when they all walked in 5th last night (this is before it happened again) and one of my friends came up to me, and said "Thank you for lowering K_____'s self esteem"

I think I wished you luck last night, inamongst swearing at you, so I'll do it again. Good luck!
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:08, Reply)

Everyone will know what you mean.
Which sweaty internet wrong'un is it this time?
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:08, Reply)

Oh, not an internet sweaty wrongun
I've written about him on /QOTW though
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:13, Reply)

*DUN DUN DUN*
Walk of........ SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!

LAMPITO! COME ON DOOOOOOOOWN!
*cue orange gameshow host*
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:13, Reply)

At least this one wasn't barefoot.

( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:14, Reply)

*high fives*

(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:27, Reply)

i wish cake was permenant
and fat was temporary, not the other way round
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:34, Reply)

fat isn't permanant, fatty.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:36, Reply)

maybe not
but being a dick is

*zing*
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:36, Reply)

I THOUGHT YOU WERE ONE OF THE NICE ONES

(PsychoChomp, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:38, Reply)

sometimes it's just
too tempting
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:39, Reply)

ice once
( Bert Monkeysex is waiting for the mods to delete him, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:44, Reply)

*high fives*

(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:38, Reply)

You terrible bully
different one to the first one

edit bollocks, stupid bloody link doesn't work
( Bert Monkeysex is waiting for the mods to delete him, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:42, Reply)

Oh dear, never mind.

(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:09, Reply)

It's 'different from'
/terrible bully
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:12, Reply)

hahaha

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:50, Reply)

Hay, we'll have less of the bullying of PhsycoChomp please.
I come to this internet based message board forum in order to escape all the bullying in my life, thank you very much.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:16, Reply)

My hero!

(PsychoChomp, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:16, Reply)

I really must write into my MP and tell him (or her, I donno) about this place and the wantant bullying going on.
I don't want him (or her, I donno) to ban dull mouse-related incident from the internet, that would be a bit much, but he (or her, I donno) should put a stop to this.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:19, Reply)

I'm a very bad person
I've even done this before! There's noone that can stop me!
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:22, Reply)

I sometimes wonder if God could exist if he (or her, I donno) could allow such things to happen.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:27, Reply)

I understand what you mean
And I wish it too. But I don't mind cake too much, I rather have permanent chorizo or bacon. With cheese. On bread.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:42, Reply)

i have recently
developed a taste for creme brulee. I think something has set off my pretentious gland
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:44, Reply)

Mmmmm....
My grandma used to make crema catalana (similar to creme brulee, but from catalonia). It was the best in the world. I wish I had listened to her when she was teaching me cooking.

Still, I rather go for the salty than the sweet.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:47, Reply)

Same,
If I have a craving, it's usually for something savoury rather than sweet. Unless I'm craving caramel shortbread. Mmmmmmmm caramel shortbread *drools*
(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:52, Reply)

Or jaffa cakes
Or orange digestives with milk chocolate.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:10, Reply)

I've got something salty for you
but I have a feeling these crisps will be gone before you can get here.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:00, Reply)

:(
I want crisps

I know I shouldn't

But I want crisps
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:10, Reply)

lollers immune system failure.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:35, Reply)

Incorporate local honey into your daily diet.
It will strengthen your immunity against the pollens in that area.
It has to be unpasteurised - the stuff in supermarkets is shite because all the good things in it have been killed off.
(oneinthepink is at your cervix m'lady, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:52, Reply)

And burying half a potato in the moonlight cures warts

( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:57, Reply)

I like this

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:11, Reply)

Doesn't that only work if you dilute the honey?

( Larry Vest One day at a time, sweet Jesus, FFS., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:59, Reply)

That doesn't sound too stupid
And I love honey. Any idea where I can get it in Manchester?
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:11, Reply)

Sainsbees

(PsychoChomp, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:12, Reply)

Is that a joke?
Or a game of words (Sainsbury's)?
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:13, Reply)

yes, and it was very funny click I like this now.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:13, Reply)

Done
Thanks for explaining
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:20, Reply)

you are an awful person

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:28, Reply)

Nope, stop...
Honey is regurgitated nectar, hayfever is caused by pollen, 2 very different things.

Hayfever is caused by pollen up the nasal cavity, so even if honey did help because of "trace levels of pollen" or some such nonsense, you would have to snort it not digest it.

Hayfever is generally caused by wind pollenated plants, honey is derived from insect pollenated plants.

These guys say it doesnt help: Rajan TV, Tennen H, Lindquist RL, Cohen L, Clive J (February 2002). "Effect of ingestion of honey on symptoms of rhinoconjunctivitis". Ann. Allergy Asthma Immunol. 88 (2): 198–203
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:16, Reply)

Yeah well my nan says it works and she knows everything

( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:21, Reply)

But I like honey
:(
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:21, Reply)

Oh go on then
Have you tried eating honey? It cures hayfever.
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:25, Reply)

Oh, that's great
Because I love honey, and I never eat it because I'm always on a diet, but now I have a good reason to eat it. You're my saviour! Thanks.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:26, Reply)

Don't thank me...thank the bees!
Insect vomit has never been so delicious.
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:29, Reply)

True
You know, I'm learning so many things... The other day I learnt that bumblebees don't sting and live in buried places in the earth.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:31, Reply)

I knew they lived in the ground, because I have a few resident bumblers in my garden
I didn't know that they don't sting. Does that mean I can stop running around with my hands in the air shrieking like a girl when I see one?
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:34, Reply)

Yes, you can
I stopped doing it a couple of months ago, when I was laughed at and then explained. They're in fact very sweet insects. You can hold them on your hands and they'll walk around without flying away.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:36, Reply)

I did biology at uni, and for one of the zoology modules we had to do an insect collection.
This involved catching insects, gassing them to death with ether and then pinning them out. I caught a giant bumble bee which woke up after I pinned it out! It was nightmarish, this large insect trying to move despite all the pins.

That night I had a dream that a giant bumble bee was pinning me out for display.
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:42, Reply)

Ayayayay
Poor thingy! I don't think I could do anything like that. I find sooooo creepy those buterflies collections.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:43, Reply)

I wouldn't do it again
Killing the flies was ok, but I had to collect 9 "orders" of insect, and 3 of each order. I felt really bad for the butterflies, dragonflies, grasshoppers and even the beetles.
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:50, Reply)

I would too
I wouldn't mind the mosquitoes and flies. Or ants. Anything else would be a no from me. I'm glad we didn't have anything like that, as I'm sure I'd have failed that subject.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:52, Reply)

I kept the collection for years (8 to be precise)
I only threw it out 4 years ago when I moved into my house. I have been especially nice to bumblebees since that awful collection.
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:56, Reply)

They're sweet things
I have a few of them coming to my balcony, now that I have flowers on it. They're very soft too.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:59, Reply)

the other day my mate was trying to convince me that we should collect big bumblebees
make them drowsy in the freezer, and attach thread to them, so we'd have bees on a leash.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:44, Reply)

It's worth a shot
if you had enough they could go forth and do your bidding. Or you could re-enact "James and the giant peach" with bumblers instead of seagulls.
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:48, Reply)

I agree
through experimentation. Never helped me one jot.
( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:21, Reply)

Yeah, that post made me sound like a know-it-all dick
Hayfever ruins may life every 4 years or so (a bit like the world cup ROLFMAYO!!11)

Which is why I know a bit about it. My worst year for it was the year I learnt to drive, which was a complete bastard.
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:28, Reply)

I've also found
not messing with your nose and eyes helps a lot. It may be tempting to blow until your red in the face (CHRIST!) or rub those eyes raw, but just leave them alone and they will come to terms with things.

I've also experimented with leaving my bedroom window open everynight (seems to slowly adjust my body to the outside morning) and also drinking plenty water seems to help.

I've tried the honey thing but that never done much, and also anti-histamines but they make my nose itchy. Fucking pollen.
( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:09, Reply)

I keep trying different things
My only problem is with the eyes really. Maybe I should put honey eye patches in my eyes before going to sleep, and then honey drops in the morning.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:12, Reply)

Just cut your eyes out

( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:16, Reply)

That's not a bad suggestion
If it wasn't because by the time I get to meet you at a bash, I'd be unable to appreciate your gorgeousness, and that'd be a pity.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:22, Reply)

Is there anyone you won't flirt with?
Am feeling less special by the day!
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:30, Reply)

But dear, don't you see it's different?
You are special, you truly are. The most special b3tan. I'm sure everyone will agree with that.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:33, Reply)

Oh very good
Nonetheless, sex is off
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:40, Reply)

As if I cared
I'll spend hours and hours talking to you in bed, shall I?
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:41, Reply)

I've composed several replies to that
but they were all disgusting and I like you too much to post any of them
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:46, Reply)

But I like disgusting
if it comes from someone sexy like you grrrrr
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:47, Reply)

I could be wrong
but I do believe you're taking the piss
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:53, Reply)

I just had to take a bit of time
to formulate a reply. I'm still shaking and all red-faced and flustered.
( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:55, Reply)

That'll teach you not to be rude to me again
Unless you want to get all red faced and flustered.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:58, Reply)

How well do you know me?

(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:55, Reply)

Well enough to know when you're taking the piss
Or, conversely, not well enough to be able to tell when you're taking the piss. You tell me
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 13:01, Reply)

I'll let you think about it.
I hope you get it right :) I'll be waiting for a good comeback.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 13:15, Reply)

I kind of like things the way they are. Although I would like my dooby tin to be permanently full.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:11, Reply)

Read it as booby tin
patenting now
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:14, Reply)

a tin full of boobs, I don't know which one I would use more. suck suck, puff puff and all that.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:22, Reply)

Hayfever sucks
I've had it since I was 5 but it's started to get better as I have grown older.
You can get eye drops to help with the eyes but I always found they just made mine worse as a kid.
To help relive itchy eyes you can try sitting with some slices of cold cucumber or some cold used teabags on your eyes. This really helped me when my eyes were bad.
Optrex is also quite good for soothing sore itchy eyes.
Most of all, do not rub them, this will only exacerbate the situation.
( M o D, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:26, Reply)

I know it does
But it's so difficult to stop my hands doing it.

I thought about the cucumber or cold used tea bags (or camomille infusion soaked cotton). I'll give it a try, although I think what works in there is the fact that you have your eyes closed, rather than anything else.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:29, Reply)

The cold bit is the important bit I think
helps to numb your eyes a bit and relieve the itchying sensation.
It's a horrible allergy I hated summer as a kid.
( M o D, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 14:31, Reply)

I wish Battlestar Galactica was permanent
and macular degeneration was temporary

Although it could be argued insistence upon the former does the latter no favours
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:26, Reply)

I wish Star Trek was forever
and the hadn't killed Data. He's not dead, you know? I know he's alive, and I'm not going to stop until I find him.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:30, Reply)

Good luck
He won't be built for a couple of centuries yet
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:31, Reply)

That's a problem I'm working on now
I've started to send messages to The Doctor for him to pick me with his TARDIS. Once he realizes it's me writing Bad Wolf everywhere, he'll come to rescue me and take me around the universe and time, and we can together look for Data.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:35, Reply)

Genius
But once you have The Doctor, will you still give a monkey's about Data?
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:40, Reply)

Well, both are very sexy
And Data is fully capable, you know? Very well designed and that. Imagine what the 2 of them would do together.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:42, Reply)

Data would probably split you in half
It'd be like shagging a dildo on the end of a jackhammer
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:48, Reply)

He had sex with Tasha Yar
and she was more than happy about it.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:49, Reply)

Yeah, but she did DIE shortly thereafter
Just saying, like
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:53, Reply)

But it wasn't Data's fault at all
and she died happier after having sex with a fully functional android.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:57, Reply)

She was nails though.
As long as she didn't have to fight a puddle of tar.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:55, Reply)

It was one of the worst bad guys ever
And I was hoping so much she would come out, just covered in black stuff.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:56, Reply)

Have you ever fought a puddle of tar?
They're BASTARDS
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 13:03, Reply)

I started developing allergies about 15 years ago.
Spring here can get pretty nasty on the pollen count, but I've found that anti-histamines work well and over the years I've been able to clear up the allergy sypmtoms within a week of onset. I think you've just got to find what's right for you.

Permanent to temporary? Hmmm, I'd probably turn my girlfriends sex drive to permanent, and from permanent to temporary I dont' know what I would change.
(nolongernuts, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 14:11, Reply)