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I lost my ipod back in June, 80gb nearly full. I lost it about the same time the pc itunes was on died and couldn't be fixed. I was just about resigned to the fact I would have to shell out a significant chunk of my savings to repopulate my new itunes and phone as I have no clue about illegal downloading. When this morning my old man rings me asking if I had left him a 'gadget dooda' in his car. The plucky old bastard found my ipod. What have you lost and found?
Alt Q: what have you lost and never found?
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 9:48, 192 replies, latest was 15 years ago)
is a moron.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 9:49, Reply)
who doesn't want to see the music industry collapse, bereft of its diamond encrusted limousines?
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:09, Reply)
is that they are already outrageously rich. Those cunts.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:22, Reply)
I really dont give a shit.
I'm happy to buy CDs straight off bands who have paid in order to have them pressed and whatnot. I'm happy to support bands. I am not happy to support the music industry. Adapt to survive. Bands have in the past proved themselves capable of starting their own record labels.
Frankly, I find the argument that you should pay the music industry because the musicians don't have an alternative to be utterly farcical.
Edited for idiotic spelling.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:15, Reply)
you think that all authors should just find the money to print their own books and negotiate contracts with bookshops?
There's a big flaw in your argument, because while bands can release their music without a record company, they will struggle to promote it. Or tour.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:19, Reply)
at the moment the cost of printing is prohibitive.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:21, Reply)
Still doesn't handle touring for music.
/also, as an aside, eBooks are not going to do for books what mp3s did to music, because too many of us simply don't like reading things not written on paper.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:23, Reply)
they are really offensive. books are one of the most tangible pleasures in life - you can spend hours in a bookshop browsing and choosing, and they are lovely things to have around the house. (although i may have a few too many for a flat). also they would make my eyes feel funny, it's bad enough staring at a computer at work all day.
ban the e-books.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:28, Reply)
I can't imagine ever using an e-book. I love the smell of old books too.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:44, Reply)
because editing is too regressive.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:54, Reply)
and i get pilloried to the point of flouncing...
bgb - shame on you, i thought we were friends, how could you.
vipros - you used a smiley. thus you are below contempt and your opinion is dead to me.
psychochomp - overall generally below contempt and should be dead anyway.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:04, Reply)
it's much more amusing when he has to explain himself.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:19, Reply)
Some reasons they haven't taken off yet - competing formats, DRM, readers being expensive. If I could get an e-book reader I can read on a night bus without too much concern that I'm going to get mugged for it, I'd have one already.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:29, Reply)
Until they brought out iBooks. I loaded it up for a browse, found the quality and readability of the free book (Winnie the Pooh) to be excellent, so thought I'd by some ebooks for my holiday.
The iBooks store were charging 17 quid for a Charles Stross book, same again for Christopher Brookmyre, both of which I bought new as paperbacks for about 3 quid each on Amazon...
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:32, Reply)
It was advertised, slightly annoying popup which you had to click about twice a chapter. It didn't bother me that much though.
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(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:48, Reply)
this is the wrong place to gauge opinion. this is a website of, what, 100,000 mostly geeks? (not meant negatively, it just is)
It's not going to happen in the real world. Too many people LIKE books. I'll 'fess up if it turns out I'm wrong, but I doubt it.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:34, Reply)
but I would certainly use an e-book reader as well, if only to save on luggage space on holidays and such.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:41, Reply)
I intend to try one out when I get the chance, but even if I got one it wouldn't stop me wanting to own as many books as possible.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:46, Reply)
But it would have to cost about £25 for me to risk it in my luggage.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:47, Reply)
because it's so dependant on word of mouth. It depends what you want though, you're obviously not going to ever have the big blockbuster 20,000 in a day sales that large scale promotion wants and in fact needs to sustain itself. There's nothing wrong with pushing for a gradual increase of sales through submitting it for reviews in blogs/newspapers/magazines/book clubs.
To your aside, I think it's going to head towards eBooks in just the same way as mp3's have. The kindle etc are actually quite nice to read from, nothing like a normal screen, and the iPad has to make a difference to the market. It's just going to take some time.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:32, Reply)
www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/jul/20/amazon-ebook-digital-sales-hardbacks-us
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:39, Reply)
Also, "Amazon in being completely honest about sales figures and not massaging them"* yeah right. Have you met my good friend Lord Lucan?
*/I've got to go and lecture now so I don't have time to look, but I'm willing to bet you £20 right now that what Amazon have done is they've compared book titles directly for those figures. i.e the number of eBooks of "dragon tattoo" vs number of hardbacks of "dragon tattoo". Which will be about 11, as it's been out in paperback for years. It's not lying, but it's massively misleading. There's no way they've just added up "total eBooks" and "total hardbacks"
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:46, Reply)
However, Kindla have an store I've not tried where the prices are quite a bit lower.
Where these devices come into their own though, is with law and medical students, and to a lesser extent every other student or academic, who have to carry around huge books.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:47, Reply)
I am a huge book reader, but can't "read" a book on a screen. It just doesn't have the same feel or ease as printed paper.
I'm probably all of TEH WRONG and old fashioned, but to that I say... meh.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:55, Reply)
have read a whole book on CRT screen before and it was awful. I'd need to have a week to see how I got on with an ereader I think
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:57, Reply)
and the publishing companies banded together to try to hang on to the more profitable past rather than trying to work out how to use the technology to their own benefit, then certainly.
The music industry essentially tried to destroy a new form of technology because they a) couldn't work out how to harness it properly and b) had got used to keeping the vast share of record sales money for their own profits.
If mp3s and internet mean anything, it means that bands can release music, accept payment and film gigs for internet release completely without a music labels input. I'm not against paying for music at all.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:24, Reply)
But where I suspect we differ is that I don't regard failure to adapt or the music companies failings as reason to download illegally.
I do disagree a fair bit about music companies input. Without some input, we'd spend our lives searching through utter utter dross to find even capable musicians, let alone something we liked. I don't have that time. There needs to be some form of weeding of dross. I'll happily pay just for that. How many 16-18 year old idiots did you know who thought they would be the next big thing when they could barely hold a guitar the right way up, for instance?
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:32, Reply)
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:35, Reply)
but I was pointing that a lot of shit comes down through the music companies anyway.
I'm not disagreeing with you. I gig quite a bit and am all too aware of how many shit bands are around who think they are the bollocks. Not us though, we know we're shit.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:38, Reply)
watch out though for the fine line between "shit because it isn't my taste" and "actually shit because they have no musical talent" - a lot of chart stuff is former rather than latter
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:41, Reply)
there are a lot of fuckers with very little musical ability around though.
The main reason I hate U2 so much is because their more recent songs sound like they have been written by children.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:45, Reply)
The overhead in publishing tends to go on stuff like editing, without which the product would likely be rubbish. Hence why e-books cost about the same as hard copies - the actual production costs of a dead-tree book are trivial. Quite a lot of self-published e-books are turning up these days, but they're rarely good (more here).
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:25, Reply)
is the best thing to ever have happened to the music industry, in my opinion.
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(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:23, Reply)
Regarding his breaking away from the music industry in order to release music on the Internet, and what new bands can do to get their music out there.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:34, Reply)
I think they should form a duo
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:35, Reply)
I think Trent summed it up nicely by saying that if you want to be in a band to get rich and famous, sign with a record label. If you want to make the best music you can and share it with others, the Internet is your friend.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:39, Reply)
I don't even care if anyone hears my music, I just like making it.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:41, Reply)
there'd be a lot of unemployed people. i'd rather give the cash to warner than the dole Q!
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:21, Reply)
They should give me shit for free 'cus they got more money than me.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:30, Reply)
and then getting that file on my iphone? zero chance of me being able to do that without tuition.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:12, Reply)
Vinyl and me will always be the dearest of friends.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:16, Reply)
speakers is quick and convenient.
I only have 11 records on vinyl. Not a lot.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:21, Reply)
see also: cunts that think just because they are 1200s they are fitted with needles that allow you to try and "scratch"
cunts that think it's really funny to pour vodka into the vents of a running power amp
cunts that discover bass ports on missions are exactly the right size to shove sausages up (actually that was quite funny)
Actually, turns out I know a lot of cunts.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:27, Reply)
Here, how's this for an idea, big fella, you could make one of your collarge art thinggies with the wrappers ! Here's some prick-stick and some cardboard, knock yourself out, really express whatever you want. And don't worry, dispite what I think, I shall always be proud of you.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:03, Reply)
In other news we had apple pie made from our home grown apples last night.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:07, Reply)
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Edit: Is it possible to froth at the wrists?
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:28, Reply)
My bedpost looks like a stepladder built by the Borrowers
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:30, Reply)
Have you tried down the back of the sofa? Perhaps a better question would be 'why has it gone?'.
How was your gig?
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:12, Reply)
I assumed that meant giggage...
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:15, Reply)
I was moving the amp up to the pub in advance. Gig's not until Thursday, but I managed my delivery on the train and my back, arms and floppy wrists have all lived to teapot another day.
Just got confused as there was the possibility I would have also been playing last night with a different band, but the drummer pulled out on Sunday. Even if my dignity hasn't really gone, my sense of self-organisation disappeared long ago...
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:16, Reply)
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:20, Reply)
Acoustic guitar in the 6th.
It's not so much 'talented' as 'in demand due to choosing an instrument that fewer people want to play.'
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:23, Reply)
in spite of him being a mildly retarded ginger scotsman.
I don't know what it is about my band, whether it is just us or not, but people seem to think it is fine to try and hold conversations with us while we are in the middle of playing a song. Or that every time we finish one shouting "bass solo!" or something similar is a nice way of showing your appreciation.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:25, Reply)
Except the feller who runs the blues jam I go to. But I'll eventually teach him otherwsie.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:30, Reply)
in fact, probably more so, but it is fairly disheartening when all your audience does is shout for them, rather than acknowledge that you've just finished a song as a band.
It'd make me slightly happier if people asked for more guitar solos, but I don't think I could fit any more in.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:32, Reply)
Give him a song with a dedicated bass solo in it, then when they beg for another you can say he's already had one and that will be all, thank you very much.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:36, Reply)
the whole set is a bass solo!
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:40, Reply)
(And yet has still achieved far greater glory and fame than me to date...)
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:42, Reply)
Or 'CUNT' as the fans insist on spelling it.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:27, Reply)
I am a complete and utter basswhore at the moment.
Edit: Though if it makes you think any better of my musical whoring, I am still playing with that Sensational Alex Harvey Band Tribute Band
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:28, Reply)
before anyone else says it.
i am forever remembering songs from ages ago, looking at the jumbled mass of about 500 CD's that are all in the wrong boxes anyway, thinking "fuck it" and dowloading them from i-tunes.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:02, Reply)
So far you owe me 30 quid.
I don't take cheques
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:08, Reply)
You owe me 86 trillion pounds.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:19, Reply)
I'm a bit shy at the moment... can I pay you in hugs?
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:22, Reply)
I'm crap today again. If I didn't know that it's important that I finish what I'm doing, I'd have stayed at home today. Buf.
I don't usually lose things, as I'm quite organised.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:05, Reply)
but the good thing about that is you're given a pleasant surprise when you find them again.
I used to run across a few banknotes stashed inside particular books, from where I'd hidden them and forgotten about them
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:08, Reply)
that's an excellent idea, I'm going to start doing that whenever I have spare notes.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:11, Reply)
as a child. I'd get present-money, and either spend it like water or fold it into a book and lose it
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:12, Reply)
That was me losing my religion.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:08, Reply)
the inside of your head is a dark and twisted place, mein lieb.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:10, Reply)
he doesn't even know what he's saying is the truth
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:12, Reply)
he doesn't live in a flat, he lives at the top of a pole in the desert
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:21, Reply)
worry about the fact that your subconscious mind is choosing to home in on poor DrTugnut's ordeal
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:26, Reply)
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:12, Reply)
i did not mean to imply that you are a blot on your family's escutcheon.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:16, Reply)
Lenovo are now saying that things like RAID cards and hard drives are now customer replaceable parts. They think it's reasonable for recruitment consultants to be opening desktops, laptops and servers in order to replace parts.
Most of these people are incapable of switching their computers on in the morning without having their hands held by us.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:12, Reply)
Although, that proved irrelevant shortly afterwards.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:14, Reply)
I don't mean I wanted to die, there was just so many times I just thought of how much easier it would be to not wake up the next day. This has been going on for a couple of months now, but there's light at the end of the tunnel.
I'm moving back into my parents, for 2-3 months. That will give me time to pay off debts, overdrafts, etc, and give me a fresh start. I hope.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:22, Reply)
so bad luck fuckface
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:36, Reply)
has produced uncomfortable images in my brain. I'm doing the same before moving to Wales. It's a bit of a nightmare to be honest but you will love the cash injection.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:26, Reply)
We'll wake you in two and a bit weeks.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:26, Reply)
after watching this www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8F5YSA1Oz0
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:27, Reply)
depths below where you're at.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:30, Reply)
Give this a listen, it's my favourite track of the minute, pretty damn ace.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:32, Reply)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAO95Q5IiYY
For those without sound it starts along the lines of
The first love of my life, was not a girl it was my bike
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:38, Reply)
Nah, it's a strange combo of irish music and bhangra, cracking tune.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:48, Reply)
Al first alerted me to these oafs but I have still not dared give them a listen. They sound GRATE.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:29, Reply)
And raather attractive to boot.
*Terry-Thomases*
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:40, Reply)
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:48, Reply)
unless you stop assuming that everyone who compliments you has low standards.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:53, Reply)
Besides, my mummy says I'm beautiful : )
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:56, Reply)
my mrs refuses to accept that she is gorgeous, despite being told repeatedly, not just by me either.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:02, Reply)
Although I think you're at your best when taking the piss out of Lab.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:07, Reply)
THAT'S how low my standards are. Snort.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:48, Reply)
I want to do unspeakable atrocities to them.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:37, Reply)
I'd forgotten about that. Luckily I'm a quick rememberer when prodded.
(, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 10:39, Reply)
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