Evening thread anyone?
This evening, I'm going to watch the telly, have a glass of wine and cook some chicken.

What are you doing with your evening?

Alt q: What scared you most as a child?
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 19:41, 121 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

Watching the footie.

Alt a: big spiders
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 19:47, Reply)

Working on a presentation that one of my team should have done.
Whilst drinking cider and swearing repeatedly.

Alt: My mother; vicious cunt.
(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 19:49, Reply)

What cider have you got?
(I will judge you, so if it's shit you might want to lie).
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 19:50, Reply)

I have a 6 pint keg of Stowford Press that I collected from a pub on the way home from work.
In the fridge I have Aspell's and Westons. I will confess to enjoying Strongbow on occasion too (oh go on... say what you like) but Stowford Press is my favourite.
(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 19:52, Reply)

I like Stowfords.
Not that keen on Aspells (too sweet).

Strongbow? Lets not go there.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 19:54, Reply)

If in a pub & Strongbow is the only option I will drink it without complaint - preferable to lager or crap beer (I love decent real ale though). Magners/Bulmers is far too sweet

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 19:56, Reply)

Haha, I read 'My mother; vicious cunt' as if you were scared of her fanny.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:12, Reply)

How do you know I wasn't! I was launched out of it after all

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:38, Reply)

Like the intro to Big Fish*
* The baby shoots out and goes sliding down the hallway.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:58, Reply)

Ray Mears, chocolate and a cup of tea.
Alt q: boys
( girlinthehole, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:01, Reply)

Are you watching the Ray Mears bear one on ITV4?

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:03, Reply)

Yup.
I have a thing for old Ray.
( girlinthehole, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:05, Reply)

I want to go to Canada. Looks amazing. Would like to see the bears and the wolves.
Shame ITV4 isn't available in HD.
(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:09, Reply)

Me too.
I love all that rugged landscape. I think this is why I love Yorkshire.
( girlinthehole, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:12, Reply)

what tea do you have?

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:06, Reply)

Tetlys.

( girlinthehole, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:07, Reply)

Make tea-bags, make tea.
I like Yorkshire tea.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:08, Reply)

It's ok but I like Tetley tea.
Always prefered it but when I'm feeling posh I have Early Grey.
( girlinthehole, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:10, Reply)

Do you drink green tea? Lovely stuff.

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:11, Reply)

Sometimes.
Nothing as refreshing as a nice cup of tea though.
( girlinthehole, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:13, Reply)

Peppermint is good to settle a hungover stomach
I think the ginger faced grizzly is the coolest on this programme so far.
(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:20, Reply)

What about the tea the monkeys drink?

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:11, Reply)

PG tips?

( girlinthehole, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:13, Reply)

That's it.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:15, Reply)

Drinking cider
And attempting to find application forms on abysmal websites, and failing to find said application forms so e-mailing people instead.

I don't remember being scared of anything in particular. How dull of me.
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:03, Reply)

What cider do you have?

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:06, Reply)

Magners
And I don't care what you think about it.
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:18, Reply)

Just as long as it's not pear cider. Yuck.

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:20, Reply)

Damn right it's not that pear crap

(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:21, Reply)

Drink of the devil.

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:22, Reply)

It's not a bad cider by a long shot. I prefer stowford press but magnets will do
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:20, Reply)

I is drinking Stowford currently. 3 pints in my keg still left for this evening.

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:21, Reply)

It's no Rekorderlig
But it certainly does the job.
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:23, Reply)

Is that the Swedish cider? Haven't seen it for sale in many places.

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:26, Reply)

I'm sure I've bought it on trains in the past.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:28, Reply)

The apple one was ok when I tried it at a gig but the strawberry flavoured one just seemed wrong

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:29, Reply)

This is one of the problems I've got with Aspells.
They keep lobbing extra fruit in their ciders.

If that trend continues, kids will go back to drinking bottles of K* cider and lashing a shot of Archers in it.

*Remembers when K and Diamond White were available in pubs and people drank 'em by the dozen.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:32, Reply)

I remember this - K used to be in a matt black bottle & tended to be teenage fighting juice

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:33, Reply)

Strange how these drinks come in and out of fashion.
I remember the days of K and diamond white, after that, the next big things were Caffreys and then those alcoholic lemonades (fuck knows what they were called though) 2-dogs maybe?
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:36, Reply)

2 dogs was one. Hooch was the really popular one I think.

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:39, Reply)

Hooch, That was it.
What happened to them, eh? Used to be a pub best seller, but where is it these days?
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:41, Reply)

This will tell you more. I think some of the reason was political pressure re teenage alcohol consumption
www.foodanddrinkeurope.com/Consumer-Trends/Hooch-is-axed-but-alcopops-live-on
(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:43, Reply)

What happened to Reef?

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:50, Reply)

I think you can still get it - not exactly my tipple so I don't keep any eye out for it
Damn this Stowford is slipping down too well
(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:53, Reply)

I don't think I've ever tried it.
Thinking about it, I don't know if pubs still sell Bacardi Breezers either?

The ex-wife was mad for that particular type of tart-fuel.

Glad the Stowford is going down well. But with only 3 pints left, you need to start planning on what you'll move onto after its gone.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:56, Reply)

I may open a bottle of Rioja later to wash down the cold roast beef I will be dining on, but switching on to red is always a mistake on a school night

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:58, Reply)

Do it.
You know it makes sense.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:02, Reply)

It will probably happen

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:05, Reply)

Good decision.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:06, Reply)

I have wimped out & stayed on the cider.
I have to be the complete professional at work tomorrow y'know
(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:40, Reply)

Lightweight.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:41, Reply)

I will hold my hands up to that

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:46, Reply)

Never mind.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:47, Reply)

Bacardi Breezers
will forever be associated with the bride I saw, in her white wedding dress cut to reveal her tattoos, who was screaming at her children and new husband calling them 'cunts' while she swigged alternately from the orange and red ones
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:07, Reply)

But did your Mum enjoy her big day?
(expects a virtual slap)
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:09, Reply)

haha!
I'd just typed 'and I was tugging on mum's dress begging her to stop'

Great minds and all that
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:11, Reply)

I blame education.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:25, Reply)

I'm feeling very happy
thanks to several little things that have combined to put a smile on my face.

Alt Q: I was scared of orcs escaping into our world when I was a child. I was also quite afraid of the dark because I had a massively vivid imagination that populated under the bed/the cupboard with all sorts of monsters
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:32, Reply)

Orcs can be right cunts when they come into our world.
Yay! for having a smile though.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:34, Reply)

Indeed they can
which is why when I first read Lord of the Rings I placed it flat down on the floor at nights so the orcs couldn't escape :( (I was 8 so not quite as frightened as it sounds)

Indeed yay. It's really rather nice. Enjoying your chicken?
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:44, Reply)

Scooby Doo
Scared me when I was a kid.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:49, Reply)

The talking dog?

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:49, Reply)

Yeah. Although it wasn't Scooby that scared me.
It was the haunted houses, the evil genius and that ginger with specs, Daphne.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:51, Reply)

Scrappy was an annoying twat

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:54, Reply)

I never saw Scooby Doo growing up
but I can imagine it was quite bizarre.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:56, Reply)

It stopped being scarey the moment they introduced Scrappy Doo.
He ruined it.

Oh, The Joker in the 1960's version of Batman also gave me the heebie-jeebies.

KAPOW!
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:58, Reply)

BAM!

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:59, Reply)

THWUNK!

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:00, Reply)

You didn't miss much tbh

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:59, Reply)

Daphne didn't wear specs
you're thinking of Chris Evans
(Zoz prayed for twink on, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:59, Reply)

He didn't scare me, but his smugness
Gave me feelings of violence I never knew existed.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:01, Reply)

Wait. That's what I'm doing this evening.
Alt: Clowns and porcelain dolls.
( Lisette von Falcon, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:36, Reply)

Loads of people are scared of clowns.
I just don't understand why.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:38, Reply)

because of coulrophobia

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:45, Reply)

I think it's not being able to see their face
there's a suggestion that there could be anything underneath. Combined with the fact that for some people their routines are far more tragic than funny
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:47, Reply)

True.
I've not had enough exposure to clowns to have an opinion either way.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:57, Reply)

I'm not fussed either way to be honest
You've never been the victim of a flasher-clown then?
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:08, Reply)

Sadly not.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:35, Reply)

when I was like 6 I went to the circus and was about to walk through the troupe of clowns coming in from outside of the tent and one of them grabbed me to keep me from walking in between
kids are so rude, etc
still, scarred for life and that

plus I once had a dream that I was at a store and my mum said I could pick anything and I wanted a ballerina and a jester clown thing next to it got mad and climbed out and attacked me and my mum and was chasing us as we drove away, scarred for LIFE
( Lisette von Falcon, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:59, Reply)

I can understand why you'd be scared of clowns.
If one of those red-nosed fuckers had attacked me and my mum in a shop and chased us out of the car-park I'd be scared.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:02, Reply)

see? that is why at age 28 I'm still afraid of clowns
totally rational and everything
( Lisette von Falcon, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:11, Reply)

**there there**

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:27, Reply)

lets talk about wine
what sort of wine are you having?
( Lisette von Falcon, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:33, Reply)

I have a bottle of cheap white wine on the go.
It's a Gallo sauvignon blanc - or however you spell it.

The wine currently resides in the fridge. I have two bottles of it in the fridge and I'm debating if I should open and drink the second bottle when I finish this one.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:37, Reply)

FUCK YEAH
I love Sauvignon Blanc. I'm totally getting some when I get off work.
( Lisette von Falcon, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:45, Reply)

How many more hours of graft do you have left?

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:48, Reply)

about 10 minutes actually

( Lisette von Falcon, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:57, Reply)

Little Johnny is a most shy and insecure boy and is taken to the circus.
Made to sit right in the front by his Auntie, and on come the clowns. Immediately one runs to him and, thrusting a microphone under his nose says "Are you the front end of an ass?" "No," says Johnny. “Are you the back end of an ass?" "No," he replies. "Then I declare that you are no end of an ass!" bellows the clown triumphantly. Little Johnny runs straight home in tears. His mum says you must confront your fears to exorcise them from you forever and sends the poor boy back to the circus the next day, only this time with uncle Jim who is a master of the quick quip and witty repartee... "Watch your Uncle and learn," says Mum.

Next day and poor Johnny is back in the front row, but this time with uncle Jim, master of the quick quip and witty repartee. Enter the clowns, who this time make for Uncle Jim (master of the quick quip and witty repartee.) "Are you the front end of an ass?" they ask Jim, a master of the quick quip and witty repartee. "No." "Are you the back end of an ass?" "No," says Jim, a master of the quick quip and witty repartee. "Then I declare that you are no end of an ass..." But before the audience could react, Uncle Jim, a master of the quick quip and witty repartee, quick as a flash said "...fuck off you red-nosed, big-shoed cunt."
( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:04, Reply)

Olden and golden.
hahaha
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:06, Reply)

Half-watching several things on tv
drinking vodka and elderflower (only mixer available).

Alt Q: The dark. As soon as the lights went out I imagined there was a vampire at the foot of the bed watching for signs of life and if I kept still enough he might spare me. I was also scared of the Penguin Children's Classic book and tape of The Hound of The Baskervilles.
(Zoz prayed for twink on, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:53, Reply)

The dark IS scarey.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 20:57, Reply)

i just did pilates, now more work
snakes. Still true
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:12, Reply)

Writing.
Both here and various fictions on my hard drive. And smoking like a proper tortured artist.

Alt Q: Infinity. When I was 8 or 10, a visit to the local observatory scared me to tears by making me try to contemplate the size of the universe.
(Falstaff's Spiritual Successor, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:23, Reply)

That's just cruel.
When I was a kid, I thought 'infinity' was another way of saying 'unlimited lives' on a Spectrum computer game.

POKE 101, 49321
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:26, Reply)

Well, they didn't actually force me to do anything.
They were just talking about it, and...you ever hear of the Total Perspective Vortex in Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy?
(Falstaff's Spiritual Successor, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:41, Reply)

Ah yes
you're the person who quite liked the new book
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:54, Reply)

I'm sensing a lot of judgement in your imaginary internet-tone...
As if the 'only' is silent.
(Falstaff's Spiritual Successor, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:58, Reply)

oh no no
I'm all for people liking what they like. Not my place to judge and all that
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 22:00, Reply)

Hahaha, oouuch.

(Falstaff's Spiritual Successor, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 22:07, Reply)

Haha that was laying
it on a bit thick wasn't it?
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 22:09, Reply)

Heh heh.
Don't worry, you still have nothing on the universe for making me feel small. That was my original point.

So, why the dislike for book 6?
(Falstaff's Spiritual Successor, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 22:13, Reply)

Pure cashing in
Douglas was not a children's writer. His books were accessible to children, and I was probably 9/10 when I came across them, but they were not written for children. Eoin Colfer is fundamentally a children's writer, and that bled through.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 22:16, Reply)

Hmmm. I did not know that.
I thought he was basically an unknown who was considered worthy to take up the torch.
It is a bit upbeat, and it certainly lacks Adams' bite, but to be honest I missed the old bugger so much I would take anything. I'll have to give it a re-read with that in mind.
(Falstaff's Spiritual Successor, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 22:20, Reply)

He wrote the Artemis Fowl books
He's not even coming from the same cultural tradition of Douglas- his books are firmly rooted in Ireland, and the sense of humour is different.

I don't dislike him hugely, but he wasn't a worthy successor to the brilliance of the original. I'd have loved to have seen a book of short stories by various writers if there had to be a sequel
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 22:24, Reply)

You realise we're portraying two textbook fanboi archetypes here?

(Falstaff's Spiritual Successor, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 22:27, Reply)

Yes
and last night I had a discussion with cougar on the three laws of robotics. It doesn't get geekier :(
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 22:49, Reply)

Four Laws.

(Falstaff's Spiritual Successor, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 22:54, Reply)

that's what the argument was basically about
whether robots went downhill after the Zeroth law was introduced
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 22:55, Reply)

I have a sneaking suspicion about what side of the argument you were on
based on what I think about it. :P
(Falstaff's Spiritual Successor, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 23:11, Reply)

Well the Zeroth law
was pretty much indefensible. From that moment humanity in Asimov's books is subordinate to robots. But then I'm prejudiced by the shittest of shit endings to the final Foundation and Earth
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 23:14, Reply)

Yeah, I win my little internal bet right there.
I preferred the film anyway.
(Falstaff's Spiritual Successor, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 23:18, Reply)

now you're just trolling :)
it amuses me so much, how much of a guilty pleasure being so seriously geeky is.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 23:20, Reply)

I gave up it being a 'guilty' pleasure a while ago.
I am Nerd! Hear me roar!

_rooaarr
(Falstaff's Spiritual Successor, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 23:36, Reply)

No-one who knows the existence
of the Zeroth law could prefer the film to the book :)

I'm quietly geeky. Most of my friends don't know it even
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 23:37, Reply)

I had cider and watched a bit of football
gave up when there was another half hour of extra time. Not even the footballer who looks like a friend of mine oculd save it.

Alt: Wardrobes. Now they're my best friend.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:56, Reply)

Wardrobes? WTF?

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:59, Reply)

I hallucinated someone coming out of one while young
And for about 2 years couldn't fall asleep wihtout opening my eyes to check it every 15 seconds or so.

But I guess it's a reasonable fear, they made a film about it ffs.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 22:00, Reply)

1. Massive drugs
2. The 'working' class
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 22 Sep 2010, 0:39, Reply)

Were you told they ate children?

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 22 Sep 2010, 0:52, Reply)

Children that didn't say their prayers, yes.
Or was that gyppoes?
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 22 Sep 2010, 1:03, Reply)

If you were a naughty child
mother would threaten to take you to the gypsies.

If you didn't say your prayers it was Old Man Satan ;)
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 22 Sep 2010, 1:11, Reply)