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# Had this email from a journalist. Dunno what to say to it (or why he's asking me). Can you lot answer it and I'll email the bloke a link to the thread?
Hi Rob,

I'm researching a feature for The Sydney Morning Herald about online sexuality -- especially the explosion in sexblogs and what it all means. (The feature is due to be published this Saturday).

I'm seeking comments from a wide variety of people, including web publishers such as yourself.

This will probably sound trite ..... but the more I explore the topic, the more it seems that a post-porn sexual revolution is gathering steam online... While the Christian Right may seem ascendant in the offline world, the opposite seems to be occurring online....

Commercial porn seems to be losing market share to a wave of free, community-generated (and Web 2.0-inspired?) sexblogs, cam girls, erotic podcasts, Flickr galleries, YouTube videos, dating sites and even porn parody... (Although analysts insist the porn industry is booming online, I can't imagine how they are any better off than the music industry ... Bittorrent seems full of pirated porn videos and it seems clear that far more ``porn'' is being viewed in the blogosphere than on professional porn sites.)

If you have a few moments, I would very much appreciate any brief comments on the following....

1. Why the explosion in sex blogs/erotic podcasts/saucy Flickr galleries, etc? Are we ``reclaiming'' sex from online pornographers? Is this a new sexual revolution? If not, why the sudden mass exhibitionism?

2. What are the broader implications of moving from the 'old model' where the adult industry sold sexual content behind a ``members only'' gate that required a credit-card.... to a free-for-all where explicit sex is part of the Internet's fabric? (Will the porn industry disappear? Will kids have sex earlier? Will child porn become a worse scourge?)

3. What can we expect from a world where every aspect of sex is in plain view and openly discussed?

** I'd welcome comments -- I'd also be grateful for other contacts who might have informed views on this topic.

Thanks so much,

Sincerely,

The Sydney Morning Herald
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:38, archived)
#
1. If it's available for free then why pay
2. Everything'll stay the same
3. Profit
(I helped save b3ta! Aphex The Mink Snackless, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:40, archived)
# people like
the nakid people. especially on the internets.
(I helped save b3ta! connor, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:40, archived)
# what the hell`s a sex blog?

"Dear Diary. Last night I porked. The night before, I cracked one off.

Current mood: emo"

?
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:41, archived)
# emo
and churning one out to interpol
(Kaspar Hauser, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:48, archived)
# there is nothing wrong with cracking one off with Interpol playing loudly!
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:50, archived)
# the ability to "get laid"
without leaving the house might have something to do with it all. And I don't mean cyber, I mean going to meet someone knowing you've got a dead certain shag.

Just something to consider.
(I helped save b3ta! mr horrible up yours, dickface, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:42, archived)
# where can we find such places?
.. apart from that road around the corner from Caledonian Road station

.. as I discovered on Saturday when I got propositioned by a crack whore for the first time ever
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:44, archived)
# Maybe before they didn't think you needed sex.
(I helped save b3ta! Rev. Cleo still alive, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:45, archived)
# Oooh! I got propositioned round Kings Cross once
"You're looking for a good time?"
"No, I'm looking for a bus"
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:45, archived)
# Did she then offer to be a conductor?
(I helped save b3ta! Rev. Cleo still alive, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:46, archived)
# hehehhe
/blows horn
(I helped save b3ta! Arsonade is saving up for a new box of hummus, Tue 1 Nov 2005, 0:05, archived)
# hahaha
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:46, archived)
# Haha, I also had that one evening whilst
walking from my house in Islington down to King's Cross to meet some lads. She started with bumming a fag from me and within 30 secinds was offering to teach me all of the carnal pleasures of ancient Rome in a back alley for 25 quid. She was not best pleased when I insisted that I would be having a much greater time with a Big Mac followed by a cold beer. I love the Toms in London, great fun.
(I helped save b3ta! Zoot Cadillac . do androids dream of electric sheep?, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:49, archived)
# faceparty, of course
I thought you were teh master of the internet!

Alt.com, AFF ... it's where the masses copulate, don't you know!
(I helped save b3ta! mr horrible up yours, dickface, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:45, archived)
# aye years ago, when the only browser around was Mosaic!
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:46, archived)
# There is a club in Kennington
that insiste only that you go as a mixed couple. Once through the door there are different rooms and you can't see very much. After that anything can, and does, go.
(I helped save b3ta! Zoot Cadillac . do androids dream of electric sheep?, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:46, archived)
# how can you get laid "without leaving the house"
and "go to meet someone"?
(I helped save b3ta! Aphex The Mink Snackless, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:46, archived)
# phone Domino`s Pizza?
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:48, archived)
# where do you go to meet your pizza delivery?
(I helped save b3ta! Aphex The Mink Snackless, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:50, archived)
# faceparty
..apparently

/getting hip with da kidz
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:51, archived)
# but...but...
you don't go out to faceparty

head 'splodes
(I helped save b3ta! Aphex The Mink Snackless, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:54, archived)
# Perhaps a rephrase
get laid without going out and talking to people in bars and having to think about appearance. Being able to think quite carefully about responses in online conversation, which eliminates disaster conversations.
In short, distance and keyboards bring people together who would never actually a) meet, or b) give each other a second glance if they did.

Ya dig?

(I helped save b3ta! mr horrible up yours, dickface, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:52, archived)
# i dig
(I helped save b3ta! M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:54, archived)
# yeah,
i was just being a cunt
(I helped save b3ta! Aphex The Mink Snackless, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:54, archived)
# of course
this results in 90% casual sex, and 10% disaster relationships, but hey, it's social progression.
(I helped save b3ta! mr horrible up yours, dickface, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:56, archived)
# man, i've totally got my percentages the wrong way round
(I helped save b3ta! Aphex The Mink Snackless, Tue 1 Nov 2005, 0:00, archived)
# big fat sweaty blokes and birds
there is hope for us all

yay!
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:56, archived)
# He can't afford my fees.

Oh come on, I mean my writing fees... dirty sods.
(I helped save b3ta! CaroWallis, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:43, archived)
# ?
(I helped save b3ta! Rev. Cleo still alive, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:43, archived)
# ha ha!
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:44, archived)
# what was the first one again?
(I helped save b3ta! Aphex The Mink Snackless, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:44, archived)
# Hahah!
Spiffing! :-)
(I helped save b3ta! Skotzmun Blah blah secret passage blah blah diamonds., Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:45, archived)
# Argh!
Damn you, thought I'd finally forgotten that stuff.

Was still far better than that Pokemon shite.
(Smelch God says I'm a Pirate now. Yarr!, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:46, archived)
# Pokemon is not shite to me.
Because I am a japanophile.
(I helped save b3ta! Rev. Cleo still alive, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:47, archived)
# how old are you?
12?

Go download some dorama!
(I helped save b3ta! gaijintendo Regular Member, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:54, archived)
# I'm 15.
Dorama?

Digimon?

(I helped save b3ta! Rev. Cleo still alive, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:57, archived)
# NSFW
paedo !
(I helped save b3ta! Aphex The Mink Snackless, Tue 1 Nov 2005, 0:00, archived)
# Come on...it's not NSFW
It's a very amusing cover though.

Paedophilia would be loilta or shota, not yaoi. Pffft.

(I helped save b3ta! Rev. Cleo still alive, Tue 1 Nov 2005, 0:03, archived)
# Are you a paedophile if you are 15?
Or just a lawbreaker?
(I helped save b3ta! gaijintendo Regular Member, Tue 1 Nov 2005, 0:07, archived)
# Probably law breaker.
One of my friends knows a dude who was 13 pretending to be 17 saying he was 15 or something.

He's called Gerald the reverse paedophile.
(I helped save b3ta! Rev. Cleo still alive, Tue 1 Nov 2005, 0:08, archived)
# hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Japanese Prime Minister
(I helped save b3ta! gaijintendo Regular Member, Tue 1 Nov 2005, 0:11, archived)
# The watermark of Japan does look suspiciously like bukkake.
(I helped save b3ta! Rev. Cleo still alive, Tue 1 Nov 2005, 0:13, archived)
# Indeed.
 
*contemplates*
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Tue 1 Nov 2005, 0:38, archived)
# you are right to contemplate
I meant it to look like that
(I helped save b3ta! gaijintendo Regular Member, Tue 1 Nov 2005, 0:50, archived)
# whatever it is
it`s frightening
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Tue 1 Nov 2005, 0:03, archived)
# Point Number 2
He said "member"... pfffft!

Oooh! And I said "Number 2"
(I helped save b3ta! Skotzmun Blah blah secret passage blah blah diamonds., Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:44, archived)
# I read some of that
then it just started getting all "porn yadda yadda porn yadda sex porn yadda belgian dwarves
yadda yadda spanky goodness yadda yadda hamster yadda with a cold northerly wind"

I am off to claim more of the sandwich stash that has amazingly appeared in my fridge
(I helped save b3ta! The Neville What what what, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:44, archived)
# where have you been?
I've missed your wonderful madness! Come back! And bring me sandwiches!
(I helped save b3ta! mr horrible up yours, dickface, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:47, archived)
# Arf
I was out in the real world for a while. But it's too bright and noisy out there, so I came back inside

*offers up an egg sandwich*
(I helped save b3ta! The Neville What what what, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:48, archived)
# *snarfs*
(I helped save b3ta! Rev. Cleo still alive, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:49, archived)
# nooooooooo
my sandwich!
(I helped save b3ta! mr horrible up yours, dickface, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:53, archived)
# It was a sandwich?
*blarfs*
(I helped save b3ta! Rev. Cleo still alive, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:55, archived)
# Seems to me it will be an interesting article. I mean do people really sign up for sex sites?
The internet is littered with porn, free galleries are the norm. I also feel it's over abundance creates a sense of boredom with the whole thing. I would much rather look at a flickr site of college girls having fun on their 'spring/winter/summer breaks' dressed in bikinis than any 'deep anal penetration whilst sucking another 3 men off'

call me weird. Just call me.
949.867.5309
(I helped save b3ta! M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:46, archived)
# Aliens?
Three men?

Many mouthes?
(I helped save b3ta! Rev. Cleo still alive, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:49, archived)
# fake number

.. doesn`t begin with 555
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:49, archived)
# *rumbled*
(I helped save b3ta! M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:51, archived)
# Worth
pointing out stuff like SecondLife to him too. Masses of free love going on there.
But more on topic, that whole safety buffer of online life thing. People have always been filthy, and always wanted to be filthy with each other but were rarely allowed to be in normal society. It's natural that once you're safe on the other side of your monitor you're going to express yourself in ways you feel you're not allowed to outside. The sex indusrty cashed in on people's desires reaching a point where they would actually pay to get some kind of voice for thier inner feelings. but i reckon that's not the case anymore.
(Carwash Maaaaaaaaarge!, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:51, archived)
# ?
www.deviantart.com ?
(I helped save b3ta! Rev. Cleo still alive, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:53, archived)
# eh?
did i miss something?
(Carwash Maaaaaaaaarge!, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:55, archived)
# The earth exploded.
(I helped save b3ta! Rev. Cleo still alive, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:57, archived)
# tsk.
I hope it's still under warranty.
(I helped save b3ta! Kamikaze Stoat £4.09, Mon 31 Oct 2005, 23:59, archived)
# SecondLife
In this life, you don't have to be as fat
(I helped save b3ta! gaijintendo Regular Member, Tue 1 Nov 2005, 0:06, archived)
# read the faq
what you are looking for is here


ahhahaahahhahaahhahahahah
(I helped save b3ta! gaijintendo Regular Member, Tue 1 Nov 2005, 0:00, archived)
# this
.
(Carwash Maaaaaaaaarge!, Tue 1 Nov 2005, 0:00, archived)
# WANKING IS FUN
discuss
(riedacher_bertram, Tue 1 Nov 2005, 0:02, archived)
#
This?
(I helped save b3ta! Rev. Cleo still alive, Tue 1 Nov 2005, 0:14, archived)
# hmm
1. because the technology (camera/web) is available and cheap and more people know how to use it; the exhibitionism is old, only the technology to make it mass is new
2. no difference; it's the same bodies and the same acts, just people prepared to do it for fun undercutting the business. no reason for it to increase child porn, your cause and effect is messed up there, it's not supply driven.
3. oooh, honesty and lack of hang ups. possibly. new taboos. also possible.
as an aside, free porn on the net pre-dates the world wide web... it's only quantity that's changed...
(I helped save b3ta! eclectech is older but no wiser, Tue 1 Nov 2005, 0:04, archived)