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# TOAP i know
but my 360 died last night :( 2 years without a single problem then bam... *jumps on microsoft hating bandwagon* unrelidable piece of crap

(That Random Guy, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:35, archived)
# Do you have to send it off to Microsoft to get it relidded?
(I helped save b3ta! Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:36, archived)
# got it all boxed up
they'll fix it free of charge because its all their blooming fault for making it badly
(That Random Guy, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:37, archived)
# Oh dear.
They try though. That's the main thing.

I remember reading that when the 360 was first released, a lot of people could only play on it for more than ten minutes by suspending the power supply off the floor so that it cooled better.
This must mean that the Xbox is designed and built by polar bears, otherwise you'd think that this heating problem would get noticed at some point in the testing stage.

I have a Wii. I like the Wii.
(I helped save b3ta! wheelybird mreee!, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:43, archived)
# I need a wii
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:43, archived)
# can't you hold it til we get home?
 
(I helped save b3ta! fross Read your email on, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:45, archived)
# Too late....
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:46, archived)
# oh god!
not up the walls again!

*grabs sponge and bucket*
(I helped save b3ta! fross Read your email on, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:49, archived)
# Plenty more where that came from
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:50, archived)
# can I play with your wii now that you're done with it?
what games do you have?
(Your watch is still saving for 5K but has learnt about 'nose bondage', Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:52, archived)
# Super Mario Golden Shower
 
(I helped save b3ta! fross Read your email on, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:54, archived)
# LOL
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:54, archived)
# pffft
is it as good as Olympic Watersports 2000
(Your watch is still saving for 5K but has learnt about 'nose bondage', Thu 29 Nov 2007, 11:01, archived)
# :)
(I helped save b3ta! wheelybird mreee!, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 11:03, archived)
# I had a wii
(Your watch is still saving for 5K but has learnt about 'nose bondage', Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:45, archived)
# Seattle is damn cold!
(Your watch is still saving for 5K but has learnt about 'nose bondage', Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:45, archived)
# i like the wii too
dont have one mind just play my mates, mario galexy is brill
(That Random Guy, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:45, archived)
# ^ this
i had a wii, but sold it last month.

mario galaxy does look awesome (though makes me seasick), i'll go over to a friend's to play it i hope :)
(I helped save b3ta! fross Read your email on, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:46, archived)
# I got one for my missus in August
it's still in the box
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:51, archived)
# Finished Galaxy last night
with all 120 stars.. its was a rather good game :)
(I helped save b3ta! Victor Meldrew, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:54, archived)
# Toap on a rope
Would you like to hire a professional mourner?
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:36, archived)
# Trelly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*Smooooooooshes*
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:38, archived)
# .jpg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*smoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooshes*
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:40, archived)
# May I enquire as to your current extant state
as regards that of being a East European Motor Vehicle Parking Control Operative of reduced stature not presently at work?
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:45, archived)
# You may certainly enquire
But I'm actually a small herbaceous plant of the species Musa acuminata
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:50, archived)
# *is REALLY confused now*
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:56, archived)
# Not familiar with teaching Kryten how to lie then?
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 11:01, archived)
# ningles Peggy
(I helped save b3ta! Prof UnderCover evitable, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:45, archived)
# Greetings, Good Sir!
Alll well on this almost sunny Thursday?
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:48, archived)
# yes cheers
yourself?
(I helped save b3ta! Prof UnderCover evitable, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:49, archived)
# Apart from suffering a surfeit of 'l's
I'm not at all bad, thanks - despite having had a horrifically late night.

/is way too old to do that kind of thing anymore blog
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:53, archived)
# We had one of those too
...only it's my single day off and my poor missus had to get up for work at stupid o'clock
(I helped save b3ta! Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:58, archived)
# Jessie!!!!
How are you, lovely?
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:59, archived)
# Pretty good
When are you gracing us with your fine company and treating us to your speciality dish?
(I helped save b3ta! Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 11:01, archived)
# use a dustbin lid
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:37, archived)
# Eeeek! That's not good.
Well, think about it in these terms - you could try to blag a new one for Christmas.

It's a plan (of sorts).

Edit: I'm still trying to decide whether the PS3 is actually worth the money ('cos I'm not overly fussed about having a Blu-Ray player, frankly)

/console purchase decision blog
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:38, archived)
# considered getting an elite model
but then found it was under special ring of death warranty so its free to fix
(That Random Guy, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:39, archived)
# Pain in the rear to have to do the whole 'sending it back to base'
mullarky, though.

Here's to them getting back to you afore the holidays.

*crosses fingers on your behalf*
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:41, archived)
# me too
I'm worried that my decision on this is largely dependent on GTA IV
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:43, archived)
# ^This
But apparently it is also coming out on the 360 so I had the unpleasant idea pop into my head that I might buy microsoft...
(I helped save b3ta! Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:45, archived)
# The fate of my 360 rests on the same decision.
When GTA IV comes out, if it's cack, the whole shebang is being sold.
(I helped save b3ta! OneSullenBrit *air sandwiches*, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:49, archived)
# I wasn't going to
But then my brother came to stay while I was off work and brought his.

One week later and I've done nothing else.

But they're so bloody expensive, it's unreal!
(I helped save b3ta! IHaveABadFeelingAboutThis most likely working from home on, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:43, archived)
# They've gone down to £300 for the 40gb one.
So they'll drop again next year sometime. I'm hoping they are affordable by the time GTA IV actually gets released.
(I helped save b3ta! Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:46, archived)
# I think this, hopefully.
But I'm impatient.
(I helped save b3ta! IHaveABadFeelingAboutThis most likely working from home on, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:56, archived)
# There will be quite a few people waiting on that game
and I'd be VERY surprised if they didn't know that, so I wouldn't expect the console to get to a reasonable price until the game sales peter off
(I helped save b3ta! Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:56, archived)
# I got my PS3
For Gran Turismo (dowloaded the latest demo from Japan last night. That was fun, all those picture-letters) and Metal Gear more than anything.

They're getting to be a good deal now I reckon. Just watch what you get. My 60gb model has actual hardware for playing PS2 and PS1 games inside, instead of emulation stuff the new ones have, so I lucked out.

Plus I like the fact that wireless is built-in, as is Blu-ray (you need to pay extra for both and they're both external on the 360, it all adds up) and the firmware updates are adding more and more interesting things. You can also upgrade the hard drive with any 2.5" HDD you like, and it reinstalls stuff all by itself, without invalidating the warrenty.

And, you need to pay for X-Box Live on the 360, not sure how much, but all online stuff on the PS3 is free too.
(I helped save b3ta! mr_wicksy is.... old., Thu 29 Nov 2007, 11:01, archived)
# In fact
the new cheap 40 gig ones don't do backward compatability *at all*. not even in software.
(I helped save b3ta! fross Read your email on, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 11:10, archived)
# Really?
Jeez. Shows you really need to keep an eye on the specs. All these models are great, but they are difficult to keep track of!
(I helped save b3ta! mr_wicksy is.... old., Thu 29 Nov 2007, 11:12, archived)
# I have a seXbOX and it's brilliant
I have a firend with a PS3 and it's also brilliant, but virtually none of the games on the PS3 are native... however, GT5HD will be very good and MGSIV will possibly be the best game ever... so, there you go.
(I helped save b3ta! Prof UnderCover evitable, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:49, archived)
# Sold me Xbox 360 yesterday...
was given a ps2 and some monies back for it too. Too busy running a guild on WoW at the mo to play the thing (was a freebie console so it's all profit :D)
(I helped save b3ta! Jeccius Steam Borderlands 2 junkie, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:49, archived)
# Depends on the games
frankly, there are few real exclusives on the PS3 at the moment. If any of them is a must-have, then go for it.

Word has it that there are quite a few multi-platform games that go worse on the PS3 than the 360 (eg HL Orange Box)
(I helped save b3ta! fross Read your email on, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:52, archived)
# i can help.
(I helped save b3ta! op op op op op I stink therfore I spam, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:43, archived)
# that is exactly how it happened
(That Random Guy, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:48, archived)
# 2 years and no problemas is quite reliable
and -- I thought M$ had a huge fund of money to replace every single XbOX360 because they over heat too much...?
(I helped save b3ta! Prof UnderCover evitable, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:44, archived)
# they never planned to make money out of the hardware
but only on the games, services and accessories. So it's no big deal to replace them.
(Your watch is still saving for 5K but has learnt about 'nose bondage', Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:48, archived)
# Aww, unlucky
as all the good games are coming out now, too.

Still, maybe it's royally fucked and they will send you an upgraded model as a replacement!
(I helped save b3ta! fross Read your email on, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:45, archived)
# I shouldn't
but I'm laughing at your misfortune!
(hotrodzombie, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:45, archived)
# There's someone on ebay who can fix it for about £45
no idea who though. The likelihood is that the ships have come loose on the motherboard; if it's out of warrenty open it up and press every chip back onto the main motherboard then re-power up (sounds bollocks, but that's how 90% of them are fixed by Microsoft)
(I helped save b3ta! Jeccius Steam Borderlands 2 junkie, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:45, archived)
# i fixed mine myself
quite easy once its opened up.
(I helped save b3ta! op op op op op I stink therfore I spam, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:49, archived)
# I was looking into soft-modding it
Apparenly if you have a SATA port on your motherboard in your home pc, you can remove the DVD drive from the console and connect it to the SATA port - it's possible to flash the DVD drive to play backups through a floppy boot disk by doing this.

Found an 8meg word doc on it (pics included). Not got an Xbox anymore though lol
(I helped save b3ta! Jeccius Steam Borderlands 2 junkie, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:53, archived)
# mine is soft modded
its really easy to do. Hence the reason i fixed mine myself cos microshaft didnt want to know! :b

If you need any advice let me know.
(I helped save b3ta! op op op op op I stink therfore I spam, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:57, archived)
# I might do...
...will earn another freebie one of the net :)

Trying to earn a Wii at the mo, got half the credits for one.
(I helped save b3ta! Jeccius Steam Borderlands 2 junkie, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 11:05, archived)
# mines covered by warranty
if its the 3 red ring problem then its free, which is nice of them.. its not too bad, just annoying i was looking foward to playing a bit of rainbow 6 and it doesn't work.

saw a thing on youtube about fixing it by purposly overheating it by wrapping it in a towel dont think i want to do that.. can just see my house burning down if i try
(That Random Guy, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:53, archived)
# The prob is the motherboard is jammed in the case of the first few batches
When the console heats up and the DVD drive is used, the motherboard vibrates slightly off the external casing and eventually shakes the chips from the motherboard. The console BIOS spacks out and gives 3 lovely rings of death. They've sorted it to a much better degree in the latest batch of consoles plus as it's their fault you should be given a replacement free of charge too.
(I helped save b3ta! Jeccius Steam Borderlands 2 junkie, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:56, archived)
# the towel trick is BAD
you only need to slightly overheat the GPU memory chips and let them cool. Too much heat elsewhere will fry other components.
(I helped save b3ta! op op op op op I stink therfore I spam, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:58, archived)
# had the same thing
sent it to MS, waited 4 weeks.. tada, new console
(I helped save b3ta! c_kick or, as some people call him, Thu 29 Nov 2007, 10:50, archived)