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# Have a tesseract
I didn't make it, I just made it little enough for you not to kill me.
Clickie for bigger, smoother (687Kb)

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(SockCooker ПТН ПНХ, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:24, archived)
# you didn't make it?
o_O

F
(I helped save b3ta! grey kid is breakdancing to save a community centre, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:25, archived)
# No, it's on wikipedia
It's public domain

Wasn't sure whether to put it here or links, really.

Pretty tho, eh?
(SockCooker ПТН ПНХ, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:26, archived)
# it is pretty
but definitely links, for future reference. :)
(I helped save b3ta! grey kid is breakdancing to save a community centre, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:27, archived)
# Links would have been better
But even then...
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:28, archived)
# if you didnt make it, you stole it.
that's far worse than making something too big
(I helped save b3ta! theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:25, archived)
# ^ What she said
(I helped save b3ta! Wobbly Bloke Hello, did I miss anything on, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:27, archived)
# *flutters eyelids*
...hold on, OI!
(I helped save b3ta! theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:43, archived)
# So.... why are you posting it?
I mean, it's very nice and all that, but if you didn't make it....?
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:26, archived)
# That's almost amazing enough...
...for me to forget that you didn't make it.

...but not quite!

Hamtoucher.
(I helped save b3ta! Barbarossa is not my real name, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:26, archived)
# Naughty, naughty
very naughty.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:26, archived)
# Anybody got any Veras?
Laaaavly!
(I helped save b3ta! DogHorse plop, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:28, archived)
# got any salmon?
sorted
(I helped save b3ta! lordsaccharine b3taing is well retro mate, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:28, archived)
# hahahah
(I helped save b3ta! grey kid is breakdancing to save a community centre, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:29, archived)
# a great philosopher
once wrote
(I helped save b3ta! gfreeman is only here for the beer, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 17:05, archived)
#
b3ta.com/board/8528857
(I helped save b3ta! lordsaccharine b3taing is well retro mate, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 17:06, archived)
# how's the heckish day gone?
(I helped save b3ta! lordsaccharine b3taing is well retro mate, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:28, archived)
# SHITE
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:35, archived)
# boooooooo
still, hols now!
(I helped save b3ta! lordsaccharine b3taing is well retro mate, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:35, archived)
# *handseats*
(Professor Kenny Martin Hmm? What?, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:30, archived)
# *quick hug*
bah, bye again all
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:35, archived)
# that's smashing
hold on, you just resized it?

you arse
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:26, archived)
# D'oh!
I was going to click this too... =/
(Professor Kenny Martin Hmm? What?, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:26, archived)
# pft..i'm just going to pea all over your thread then!
*peas*



and

(I helped save b3ta! KittyVomit more super than a can of Tennants, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:27, archived)
# hahaha, WHERE'S COCKWEASLE?
:P
(I helped save b3ta! grey kid is breakdancing to save a community centre, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:28, archived)
# bloody git hijacking my crap picturw with his better one,
DAMN HIM AND HIS BLIND TITS!
(I helped save b3ta! KittyVomit more super than a can of Tennants, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:29, archived)
# ahahah, they're both lully
:)
(I helped save b3ta! grey kid is breakdancing to save a community centre, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:32, archived)
# BUT BLIND TITS!
!!!!111!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!
(I helped save b3ta! KittyVomit more super than a can of Tennants, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:33, archived)
# i know, it's not really fair to harness the awesome power of blind tits
(I helped save b3ta! grey kid is breakdancing to save a community centre, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:36, archived)
# :D
(I helped save b3ta! Monty Propps, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:28, archived)
# This is ace, miss!
*clicks*
(Professor Kenny Martin Hmm? What?, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:32, archived)
# This is why we have /links
(I helped save b3ta! Monty Propps, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:27, archived)
# f to the izail
(I helped save b3ta! lordsaccharine b3taing is well retro mate, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:27, archived)
# I don't really care where it came from...
...it's mesmerising!

(I helped save b3ta! Fresh Water Mole loves his baby boy more and more every day, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:28, archived)
# It's Friday
so have some Friday fluff.


Please try and post your own stuff in future.
(I helped save b3ta! Joliet, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:30, archived)
# *dies of cuteness overload*
That's even cuter than the ducklings I saw earlier. I may have to stare at that for hours now.
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:32, archived)
# Y'see
this is why it only gets an airing every now and then. The cuteness may end all life as we know it.

And I wouldn't want that.
(I helped save b3ta! Joliet, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:35, archived)
# National productivity would disappear
The world would grind to a halt if that was the first thing everyone saw every day :D
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:38, archived)
# keeeee-yooooooot!
I want one!
(I helped save b3ta! Sunburn Go on.... It's character building!, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:38, archived)
# 100% fail
(I helped save b3ta! The Tig and me, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:30, archived)
# Hello God
I'm not new;

What's the beef? The original image is public domain, the licence is here.

I took out every other frame, resized it, and otherwise manipulated it to be suitable for here.

What'd I do wrong?
(SockCooker ПТН ПНХ, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:31, archived)
# The board is generally for stuff which people have personally made
This is something which someone else has made and you have linked to (albeit edited it to make it smaller). So it's better to put it on the links page so that someone elses hard work isn't pushed off the board.

If you had edited it and put a CDC in the middle of it then it would be right at home on /board.
(I helped save b3ta! Joliet, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:34, archived)
# OK, I'll do something more to it later.
But please don't be arsey, everyone. I really don't see much difference - if I recolour it and make it spin backwards, it 'becomes' my own work more than the optimisation I did?

It's no more of a source than the brushes you use in Photoshop.

/rant
(SockCooker ПТН ПНХ, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:37, archived)
# you didnt make it
and it pushes someones own work off the board. we like original here, its just the way we are. if you edit it and make it your own, fine but edit it to really make it your own by enhancing it with dancing tigers and flaming penguins, then you will woo'd and lovedup like a choir boy with a priest
(I helped save b3ta! The Tig and me, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:42, archived)
# It still isn't your original work
Make it change into triangles, or I agree with the flaming penguins idea - but just changing the colour still doesn't make it YOURS.
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:47, archived)
# flaming penguins should be mandatory
a moderator modded a thread - i thought moderators were a things of legend and not real, like unicorns and endless curlywurlies.
(I helped save b3ta! The Tig and me, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:50, archived)
# endless curlywirlys? *dreams of a perfect world*
(I helped save b3ta! theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:55, archived)
# I do wonder sometimes
I have seen things well over a meg go completely unpoliced. This was at least a fairly minor sin
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:57, archived)
# Yes
spin it backwards and put a kitten inside running to try and get out
(I helped save b3ta! CanonCaliber A big bore, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:50, archived)
# You didn't actually make it yourself
Links would have been a much better choice
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:35, archived)
# /board is a place for posting "your own work"
Resizing does not normally constitute your own work...

Never mind, I enjoyed seeing the image. Have a pearoast from yesterday to cheer you up

(I helped save b3ta! Barbarossa is not my real name, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:35, archived)
# Ooh!
This has added lipstick and frowning face since yesterday, hasn't it?
(I helped save b3ta! Joliet, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:37, archived)
# The lipstick was on the source image, scarily enough!
but the frowning face was a late addition, yes :)
(I helped save b3ta! Barbarossa is not my real name, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:38, archived)
# TOO MUCH COUS COUS
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:36, archived)
# why?
faq my good man
(I helped save b3ta! Dances with Rabbits Back to Education i go, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:34, archived)
# faq yourself
It's OK to nick a picture, crop it, and TOAST it - but not OK to spend an hour optimising a GIF?

Arsecakes.

/rant

Have some nice eyes
(SockCooker ПТН ПНХ, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:47, archived)
# sorry
wasn't thinking :(
they're very nice eyes
(I helped save b3ta! Dances with Rabbits Back to Education i go, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:52, archived)
# If by TOAST you mean TOAP
Then we're not generally a massive fan of those either, but at least it does actually change the base image. Optimising doesn't make any difference to the original work.

The eyes are lovely - but we have to ask, did you do them?
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 16:54, archived)
# Well, no
They're the eyes of actress Aishwarya Rai, and she's not my daughter.

Nor did I take the Original picture that I used.

In fact, that picture could well be copyright.

I understand what you mean about 'originality', but it's a pretty damn fine line, don't you think?

I suppose most folk will be happy with the eyes, but not the box. Strange morals.
(SockCooker ПТН ПНХ, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 17:05, archived)
# Unshopped
And I notice there's 2 unshopped pics of fish on this page, that seem satisfactory?
(SockCooker ПТН ПНХ, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 17:08, archived)
# But what did you do to 'artify' them?
The eyes aren't so much of a problem - you've got to get a source from somewhere! I think the fact that all you did to the box was change the filesize (I know there's more to it than that, but essentially that's it) is what's annoyed people. If you'd posted to the links board saying 'look at the cool box thing I found', nobody would have batted an eyelid. (actually, they might have kicked up an enormous stink, I've no idea, I don't frequent links)

Agreed it's a fine line, and please don't think we're picking on you or anything, just trying to explain why box thing = bad, eyes = good :)
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 17:15, archived)
# I don't see any logical difference
...between the work I did on the eyes, and the work I did on the box
(SockCooker ПТН ПНХ, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 17:21, archived)
# What did you do then?
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 17:23, archived)
# I used paintshop
applied some filters, cropped bits out, made layers, re-coloured them, applied effects - that sort of thing.

Whereas, on the box, I converted the filetype, removed every other frame, resized the frames, ran a couple of optimization processes - that sort of thing.

(SockCooker ПТН ПНХ, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 17:28, archived)
# Ok, fair do's
Let me start by saying I know absolutely bugger all about animation, but...

With the eyes, you've done arty type things to change the overall look of the image. With the box, you've not actually changed what the original file did: yes it may have fewer frames and be smaller, but the hour you put into it is probably nothing compared to how long it took the original author to have the idea and execute it.
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 17:35, archived)
# Eyes above was inside an existing thread (but from what you said it would have been OK as a new thread)
If the box had been inside a thread , it would be OK especially as you aknowledged it wasn't your own
But there was insufficent of your own creative input to warrant it starting a new thread
(I helped save b3ta! CanonCaliber A big bore, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 17:46, archived)
# Knew someone else would be able to put it better
And more succinctly
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 17:48, archived)
# Aha!
That's a different matter entirely - thanks for that. I hope that's the fact, because the other reasons seem completely daft to me.

(Sorry Mrs Trellis, not meaning to offend - but if you look at the logic; think of the team of people and effort that went into creating the photo I used - whereas the box is a geometric shape that anyone can calculate; it's not significantly different from drawing a circle.

And..well, lots of other stuff, but I guess we have to agree to disagree.

It all depends what you call art.



Oh - I suppose I could bung my box back in somewhere then? But I'd rather put it in a thread nearer the top or something...but will that incur further wrath?
(SockCooker ПТН ПНХ, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 17:59, archived)