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# I'm not too sure about this one

(I helped save b3ta! Pootle, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 10:50, archived)
#
poignant...
(I helped save b3ta! Jadeviper was still alive on, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 10:50, archived)
#
...and very disturbing

on that not gotta go, go a presentation to sit through
(Velma, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 10:51, archived)
# ooo
very, very good. that should be used in a promotion campaign.
(martian, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 10:52, archived)
# I was thinking that sort of thing last night
though I thought I might be being a bit pompous.
(I helped save b3ta! Pootle, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 10:53, archived)
# send it to the samaritans or something
offer it for use. maybe they won't because of the irony - if people don't see the irony they'll think you're endorsing spousal abuse. but it can't hurt.
(martian, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 10:55, archived)
# It could be a little misleading
as it tends to reinforce the popular misconception that domestic violence is a "male" thing.
(Indole Ring, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 10:58, archived)
# which to be fair,
largely it is. more fatalities from female-on-male domestic abuse, though.
(martian, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 11:01, archived)
# The incidence of assault
is approximately equal between the sexes.

And I, for one, am sick of feminist propaganda, in the guise of anti-violence campaigns, constantly portraying men as violent and abusive.
(Indole Ring, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 11:03, archived)
# kind of
bbc were quoting 1 in 4 women and 1 in 6 men recently.
(I helped save b3ta! new_matt, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 11:05, archived)
# Here's
a link to the BBC report.
(Indole Ring, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 11:10, archived)
# how's
27% of people polled think "Domestic violence acceptable if partner nags" for a statistic. bloody hell
(I helped save b3ta! new_matt, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 11:13, archived)
# did you ever see the polls on tv nation?
17% of us graduates would "punch themselves really hard" for $50...
(martian, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 11:22, archived)
# you send me £50
i'll do it now
(I helped save b3ta! new_matt, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 11:32, archived)
# ...I don't think that's too much of a problem
as the majority of the time, it is.

And how do you represent both alternatives in a single image? You could just do another to show the other side.
(I helped save b3ta! Dr Phil Kitten, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 11:01, archived)
# The problem is
once you start introducing too much political correctness, you lose the joke.
(I helped save b3ta! bovine I'm so old, even my old is old, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 11:03, archived)
# That's not correct.
The violence is about equal between the sexes. Like I said, there is a popular misconception on the issue.

I think two images would be the way to handle the problem.
(Indole Ring, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 11:05, archived)
# that's what I suggested.
You have a real chip on your shoulder about this, don't you?
(I helped save b3ta! Dr Phil Kitten, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 11:07, archived)
# Yes, I do.
I've spent far too many years at the receiving end of government and media campaigns designed to make me feel guilty because I'm male. I'm really, really pissed off at society for this.
(Indole Ring, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 11:12, archived)
# i accept it
i am an average, 20-something, white, moderately well-paid, car-owning, smoking man. i am the root of all evil. i am a lager lout, drink driving, wife beating, drug taking, child murdering, cancer causing blight on society.
(I helped save b3ta! new_matt, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 11:20, archived)
# it takes less breath to say...
cunt
(I helped save b3ta! popt_art, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 11:24, archived)
# thank you
you're probably right.
(I helped save b3ta! new_matt, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 11:33, archived)
# Just like me.
If I'm going to be known as the root of all evil no matter what I do -- why bother trying to be good?
(Indole Ring, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 11:26, archived)
# so you're not
part of society?
(martian, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 11:33, archived)
# I can be
pissed off at something while still being a part of it.
(Indole Ring, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 11:44, archived)
# eurgh...
That's fucking horrible, Pootle!
(I helped save b3ta! Dr Phil Kitten, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 10:52, archived)
# it's not really meant to be a joke
I'd had a call from a friend who's bf hits her a bit.
which makes me livid.
(I helped save b3ta! Pootle, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 10:53, archived)
# nooooooo
make her get away from him!

Sorry, sorry - I realise that's not how it works. But you should change it to say something other than "Love is..."

I don't know what though.
(I helped save b3ta! Dr Phil Kitten, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 10:55, archived)
# Is love?
(I helped save b3ta! butchbint, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 10:57, archived)
# Shirley that's
the irony of it
(I helped save b3ta! Dai_Marzipan Ain't no party like an S Club party, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 10:59, archived)
# "love isn't"?
hello stranger.
(martian, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 11:00, archived)
# hmmm...
my mum was getting bashed about when i was a kid by some guy who sent her letters covered in those 'love is' cartoons he'd made himself

spooky unwelcome recollection
(I helped save b3ta! aaarrgghh...wasps! !spsaw...hhggrraaa, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 10:53, archived)
# Made I laugh
(I helped save b3ta! Ijon Tichy, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 10:54, archived)
# what
kind of door would rip your breasts and your genitals off ?
(I helped save b3ta! ablufia v0.43 - have your face drawn, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 10:55, archived)
# um
Jim Morrison
(I helped save b3ta! Dai_Marzipan Ain't no party like an S Club party, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 10:57, archived)
# you're thinking of my older one
(I helped save b3ta! Pootle, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 10:58, archived)
# haha
fantastic !
(I helped save b3ta! ablufia v0.43 - have your face drawn, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 10:59, archived)
# Brilliant
!
(I helped save b3ta! Dai_Marzipan Ain't no party like an S Club party, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 10:56, archived)
# i think that's
bloody brilliant.

(I helped save b3ta! popt_art, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 10:57, archived)
# fanks
/back to work
(I helped save b3ta! Pootle, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 10:58, archived)
# disturbing
and to the point. as all good anti-domestic violence campaigns should be.

on a lighter note, it reminds me of the Not the Nine o'clock News book's "Love is...Impossible without genitals" cartoon.
(I helped save b3ta! mozza, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 11:02, archived)
# No
It isn't.
Woo Yay to the pic, tho - I think.
(I helped save b3ta! The_Intriguing_Mr_P, Wed 5 Mar 2003, 11:08, archived)