Some anti-Tory posters I designed have started appearing in bus stops and tube trains around London
I made this!
And now I'm being investigated by The Electoral Commission.
(, Wed 31 May 2017, 20:53, Reply)
When you resort to hysterical bullshit and lies,
you're losing the argument. It's hardly as if May is a hard target. She's a sitting duck. Yet you go for hysterical bollocks.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Wed 31 May 2017, 21:07,
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perhaps this would sound better coming from someone who hadn't just claimed Corbyn is worse than Pol Pot
(, Wed 31 May 2017, 21:26, Reply)
ouch
want some ice for that burn, frockie?
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The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Wed 31 May 2017, 21:37,
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Yeah. You're right.
Different country, but how did feel when your chancellor in waiting threw the Little Red Book of a genocidal manic across the dispatch box? How many people did your, and his, hero kill?
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Wed 31 May 2017, 21:56,
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OMG they're going to kill 20 mill!!!
if they do round up the intellectuals, you'll probably be alright
(, Wed 31 May 2017, 22:14, Reply)
Mao killed 45 million
in the Great Leap Forward alone. It only took four years for his marvelous plan to make a fairer, better society to turn into mass starvation.
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The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Wed 31 May 2017, 22:21,
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OMG they're going to kill 45mill!!!
And they've not even costed it in the manifesto. Magic money tree etc etc
(, Wed 31 May 2017, 22:34, Reply)
Point being that
grand plans have a way of ending in tears. Mao was a monster. Corbyn is simply a loathsome little college drop out with fluff between his ears but he will - if god forbid he is elected - fuck the country right in the ass. He won;t get a dime from hedge fund managers (he doesn;t even know the difference between hedge funds and PE) - because they'll be offski.
Hallo 1970s. Hallo 20 per cent inflation. Hallo massive unemployment. Hallo even more of a pig's ear of a brexit than we're going to get.
BTW, do you own your home - read that part of the manifesto on LVT?
www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/labour-manifesto-land-value-tax-what-is-it-how-work-election-2017-a7739186.html
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The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Wed 31 May 2017, 22:41,
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The financial sector is already packing their bags regardless of corbyn
And council tax reform is long overdue
(, Wed 31 May 2017, 22:53, Reply)
so that's fine then.
whatevs, you mad bastard.
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The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Wed 31 May 2017, 22:58,
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Seems like the wrong reform to me. People can be asset rich and cash poor without being greedy evil types.
Sounds like a recipe to force skint people from houses they've owned for decades that have become highly desirable areas into shite places to live, and to make farmers sell off land they still need.
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Wed 31 May 2017, 23:06,
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yup.
Ask your parents how the feel about selling their home and moving away from their friends because the house they bought in the 50s or 60s is now worth a lot of money.
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The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Wed 31 May 2017, 23:17,
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Zackly.
Or a dairy farmer wondering if it's even worth the bother carrying on with the livelihood he's getting whether he'd like to pay a fuck load more tax for the 300 acres he has.
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Wed 31 May 2017, 23:24,
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Is there somewhere I can donate to these poor asset rich cash poor people?
My parents are pushing 70 and still live in the 5 bedroom house they raised 4 kids in. We've been trying to get them to downsize for about 15 years
(, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 7:44, Reply)
Fuck that.
When my brood leave home any unused room is going to be used for my own amusement. Workshop, games room, gym...
Can't wait.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 9:33,
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If we tax the land value high enough they will be forced to live in somewhere like Gorton.
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 11:04,
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they're already taxed on the value of their home
I cant see how this is much different in principle apart from they want to make the system more progressive ie increase the difference between what people pay in the highest band and what they pay in the lowest band.
(, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 11:19, Reply)
Do it on income then.
I can't see how it could be fairer than that?
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 11:30,
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because a lot of very wealthy people are quite good at hiding their incomes, it's much harder to hide your land holdings
Others live abroad - so arent subject to UK income tax - but own huge estates here
(, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 11:42, Reply)
And some people that own valuable land like farmers are already under pressure.
Perhaps we should ban non-doms from owning UK property like a lot of other countries do.
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 11:54,
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So it makes sense to tax, AGAIN, the stuff you've already taxed,
of people who have reached an age where they're unable to work any more.
Because the people who you're gonna actually effect with such a tax are mainly 70yos with a quite nice house who have already paid shed loads of tax over the years, but who you want to tax because they're TECHNICALLY millionaires because the house they bought for $80,000 40 years ago is in an area where prices have now become sky high.
No extra tax for someone with an actually nice 6 bedroom house in Sheffield, but you appear to want fuck over the person with the tiny 3 bedroom mansion in central London.
(, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 12:11, Reply)
spare me from the 'through no fault of my own I've found myself sitting in a house worth millions of pounds' people
Perhaps if they'd thought about the consequences of rampant house price inflation - rather than just the warm feeling of getting richer by doing fuck all - they'd have been a bit more vocal about it during the boom. The silly cunts
(, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 12:19, Reply)
How about people who own village commons and tender them as an amenity for the local community to enjoy?
They get no income from it, can't build house on it, but we should tax the fuck out of them nonetheless?
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 12:45,
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it's easy to pop in some exemptions or breaks for productive agricultural land or village commons or whatever
Just as there are exemptions for students and benefit claimants in the current system
(, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 12:49, Reply)
How about an orchard that has a public right of way across it?
Do you tax the orchard minus the area the path occupies? If my dad picks up a dog turd that isn't on the path does it become tax deductible?
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 12:55,
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You know what those people were doing?
They were living their lives, raising families, going to jobs. House prices are irrelevant when what you want to do is exist in a house that you already own and build a life there.
Clearly they are despicable people deserving to be punished for so cruelly buying a house in a cunning ploy to make houses far to expensive for everyone else 40 years later.
What cunts!
They should have spent 40 years impoverishing themselves by paying rent that they needn't, or should have fucked off to the arse-end of nowhere where they don't know anyone, like all people of good conscience.
(, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 13:23, Reply)
Every garden should be owned by the state.
Then you can be put on a waiting list to get it back as an allotment.
Fuck the capitalists and their rhododendrons.
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 13:34,
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house prices are not irrelevant when you want to believe you're getting spontaneously wealthier
And this situation is sustainable forever with no effort. Ludicrous
(, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 14:27, Reply)
My house has risen in value by 64% in 5 years.
And we're getting a rail link to oxford and cambridge in a few years so that will increase it further nicely.
Just putting that out there to annoy you.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 15:34,
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You do realise
you're now socially obligated to give it to the state and spend the rest of your life shivering in a ditch?
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 16:08,
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House prices are only relevant if you sell the house.
If you've just lived in it for 50 years, and you intend to die in it, the price is completely irrelevant. But you're saying that such people are cunts, and your reasoning is that they've intentionally lived there so that the prices go up?
That's a demented thing to believe, unless your driven entirely by selfishness and envy, in which case its an entirely logical worldview.
In 50 years, the return on a house that you have been living in in basically fuck all; if they were investing for profit, they could have found something much more lucrative. But clearly, all those people with absurdly overpriced houses intentionally did this to fuck you over benny. You're right... they are cunts!
(, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 17:00, Reply)
no they arent, people want to believe they're building up a nest egg in their houses for their kids
When all they've done is pay off the mortgage and the price has gone up.
Mostly they havent questioned whether this is a wise or a sustainable thing to do because they thought they were getting richer. They saw all the council houses being sold off and house building plummet and they didnt bat an eyelid because they thought they were getting richer. And they've consistently voted for parties that have upheld these conditions because they thought they were getting richer.
And now they're moaning that their kids cant get on the property ladder. Well duh
(, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 17:16, Reply)
And that's everyone who owns a house is it?
Why aren't you angry about foreign investors buying property which they leave empty? You know the tax will be almost nothing to them right?
Why not be angry at the buy-to-let landlords? You know that land tax won't affect them right, it'll just be priced into the rent they charge.
So who is left? Ordinary people who buy and then live in houses. Why do you hate simple people who simply own a house?
(, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 17:51, Reply)
they will "initiate a review"
and "consider new options", it doesn't say they will definitely do an LVT, let alone mention any actual rates, or how they would work out the taxable value of a property, despite what the Telegraph wrote about it. Council tax is already based on house value anyway.
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Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Fri 2 Jun 2017, 18:04,
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You mock and deride
I hope that they come for you.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Wed 31 May 2017, 22:22,
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They already have
I took a leaflet but told them I didn't want to put a poster in my window
(, Wed 31 May 2017, 22:55, Reply)
mostly because you are a horrible person
but also, strangely, because you actually crave validation about your nasty Labour murder man claims.
(which I haven't seen yet-- hope they are as good as they sound!)
(, Wed 31 May 2017, 22:57, Reply)
you do know that was meant to be a joke at George Osborne's expense, right,
that kind of backfired a bit
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Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Fri 2 Jun 2017, 18:02,
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He totally is, Pol Pot never threatened to charge VAT on private school fees.
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2 Can Chunder Word to your mums — I came to prod bums, Wed 31 May 2017, 23:40,
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You're going to look pretty silly when humanity gets wiped out by a nuclear holocaust because we voted for Theresa May.
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2 Can Chunder Word to your mums — I came to prod bums, Wed 31 May 2017, 23:31,
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yep, if you can't challenge the argument with reasoned debate and resort to name calling
then you are just as vacuous as the opponent.
The problem I see is that we have such a terrible bunch of leaders and parliamentarians on all sides of the debate. May and Corbyn are both dire in their own ways, intellectually moderate to poor and the debate has been overtaken by polarised views that resort to outright lies and hateful insults as soon as someone shows an alternate viewpoint.
It turns off voters completely. Whilst pundits wibble on about the daily ebb and flow of polls, 90% of the electorate don't give a shit. They are completely disengaged from the playground antics of Westminster and who can blame them? What difference does it make to them if Corbyn doesn't know a number? Wonks may care because not knowing the details of a policy you have expressly turned up to promote seems kinda amateur, but as long as he continues to say "you can have free stuff that we'll get by taxing the rich" then he'll get votes. May is simply well above her pay grade and on autopilot, taking control freakery to a new level where you fuck up because you won't tell anyone anything and then find out they were all shit ideas.
So amusing as your posters may feel to you, I think you are just contributing to the paucity of intelligent debate. I wish it were more grown up, but then again we don't seem to have the attention span for it. I'll just watch Jonathan Pie instead, at least his vitriol is intelligently considered.
(, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 8:09, Reply)
I was with you
all the way until Jonathan Pie
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Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 9:25,
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What like the tories have been doing since they called the election?
Things like "Coalition of Chaos" etc.? You really are fantastically blinkered.
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 12:44,
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electoral commission? what are they investigating you for?
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alpaca muffalo bozzerella, Wed 31 May 2017, 21:11,
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Question: Why are you making anti Tory propanga posters rather than pro Labour ones?
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 31 May 2017, 21:23,
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Trump won using the same tactics
"No fucking clue, just going to gainsay whatever that other lot say and do."
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wakeupandsmellthebacon, Wed 31 May 2017, 21:30,
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That Trump win is sure going well
Perhaps we shouldn't do the same here?
(, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 8:11, Reply)
Is being investigated by them serious?
Do you need to start practicing stuffing things up your arse?
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Wed 31 May 2017, 22:53,
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it's kinda fascinating that /links (on average) is more right wing than /board
each little bit of a community has its own people and personality
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rob, Wed 31 May 2017, 23:09,
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That's cos we have jobs and can't spend all day making pictures like them benefit scroungers
*grabs coat, legs it*
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Wed 31 May 2017, 23:14,
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Yes. /talk are mainly Liberal Democrat voters
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2 Can Chunder Word to your mums — I came to prod bums, Wed 31 May 2017, 23:23,
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They aren't registered voters.
But they are on a register.
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Wed 31 May 2017, 23:25,
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Sir, you are ablaze!
(Oh yes they are)
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 0:09,
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After some of the "debate" on here yesterday ...
... throwing around paedo accusations might not be for the best
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TownsendsPublisher is all gravy baby, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 6:27,
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Good point, well made.
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 10:21,
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Thats probably due to coincidence
links has a high percentage of obnoxious cunts, so there is bound to be some crossover there with right-wing views. You might also find that people who don't want to see that shit have them all on ignore, and are therefore less vocal in response.
The high number of cunts on here is interesting though, there is something about /links that seems to encourage judgemental and contrarian behaviour. Possibly its down to the fundamental mechanic of posting stuff you have judged to be interesting, which creates an implicit suggestion that "this is good and you should like it". The audience is powerless in this exchange and resents it, and often tells you exactly how much they hate that shit you posted. Can't say i've never done that myself either.
By contrast on the image board posts are seeking approval, and it is the audience that has the power in that case. Maybe there is a political slant to all this as well, with the communal nature of the image board and the consumerist nature of /links.
Anyway, stop being cunts everyone. *solves all the worlds problems*
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mutated monty, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 1:34,
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Nice try!
Your fingers were crossed.
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Firkinfedup last shat on your wife's tits at, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 8:53,
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Monty, you are like a lover to us (albeit a hideously ugly and wildly sexually perverse one)
and the red carpet is always out here for you but you're being a bit pompous. There is a great deal of independent thought on Links as you rightly point out, but if you scan the board and note who's being obnoxious/offensive (getting ad hom, aggressive, calling people cunts/Nazis - which you are not innocent of) it's generally the outraged left.
Often we get people popping up on links like a retired sergeant major complaining about how it isn't like it was in the old days. Well, for better or worse, it isn't. B3tans used to be students; now we're all middle-aged. We used to be skint; now most of us are probably alright Jack. People give up their student politics as they get older thank God: it's why Billy Bragg can never work out why his audience has stayed the same age. Rob does not have that problem.
Links definitely has a right wing flavour: as the years pass this will grow and mutate like one of your Plutonian creations, spreading to other boards. This is as it should be: the only thing more tragic than a young rightwinger is an aging leftwinger. And soon it will be time for all of us to join PC Mechanic on the great crudely drawn spunklobber in the sky and B3ta will die with us.
Until then, don't confuse the right with evil. We all want the best for everyone. And think kindlier of us, because it won't be long until we welcome you with a big, arse-grabbing hug as one of our own.
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After you my dear Alfonse No. After you., Thu 1 Jun 2017, 7:05,
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"...if you scan the board and note who's being obnoxious/offensive (getting ad hom, aggressive, calling people cunts/Nazis - which you are not innocent of) it's generally the outraged left."
"This is as it should be: the only thing more tragic than a young rightwinger is an aging leftwinger."
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 8:38,
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Career not panning out like you thought?
So much talent but unable to play the game? Filled with embittered rage? Vote Corbyn Monty.
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After you my dear Alfonse No. After you., Thu 1 Jun 2017, 20:40,
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There is also a problem with ignore 2.0 here
When I log out, I see a much larger board than when I'm logged in, purely because one very active, and vocally right-wing poster has me on ignore.
If there's a perceived right-wing bias to /links, it's not necessarily because there are fewer left-wing voices on here, it's also because the right-wing voices are hidden from those who would dissent. They have built, let's hope unintentionally, a wall around such ideas.
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 9:00,
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My ignore button deleted your Mum's account
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Fadgebadger Sweaty sumo wanks for everyone!, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 18:19,
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It might have something to do with that:
digest.bps.org.uk/2007/08/15/conservatives-are-less-creative-than-liberals/
On average.
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Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 6:54,
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So art/media students are more liberal than the ones doing vocational courses? This is clearly very important news.
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2 Can Chunder Word to your mums — I came to prod bums, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 9:52,
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Okay not as newsworthy as your candle situation.
Candles!
Situation!
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Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 11:05,
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By right wing do you mean "didn't fall for the Corbyn is a genuine guy" bullshit?
With so much evidence piling up that he and his team are actually quite a nasty bunch, then I guess I must be right wing too, although I tend to vote LibDem.
But hey, my enemy's enemy is my friend and all that. We'll overlook his support for murderers and treachery to his own party over the years, plus his hurried re-writing of history to make him look like the peacemaker he never was. Because he isn't Tory scum, so he gets our vote!
If you can't tell already, I am thoroughly pissed off with the lot of them. How did we get to the stage where we have such piss poor leaders and candidates? Holding your nose and voting is the norm now, why don't we have people who we feel will do a good job?
(, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 8:18, Reply)
^ This
I'm definitely not any wing. Slap bang in the centre for me, which leaves me precisely with no one to fucking vote for.
The language of the left can be as bad as the right. Listen to John McDonnell and he'll tell you every rich person made their money by being a horrible person and exploiting the worker which holds no more truth than the right making out every person on benefits is a work shy tosspot.
Absolutely every argument is polarised into extremes and it is utter bollocks. There is no intellectualism in any of the debates and both benches are full of lightweights and hypocrites.
I'll probably end up voting green again so I can't be blamed for whichever mess we are headed for.
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 11:01,
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Right wingers prefer others to do work for them and take all the glory hence /links
Left wingers do all the work hence /board
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buffet_the_appetite_slayer ٩(●̮̃•)۶ jacked in to the ICE on, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 12:24,
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"Left wingers do all the work"?
It's precisely because they're leaving it to everyone else to do all the work that they have time to make their silly pictures you dolt.
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2 Can Chunder Word to your mums — I came to prod bums, Thu 1 Jun 2017, 13:50,
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Are you sure about that?
Because i've had to work in manual labour i've been surrounded by sun reading right wingers.
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