I founded a website that aims to hold governments and big business up to scrutiny to promote greater accountability for dubious actions.
Imagine my shame when I was all over the newspapers after hiding out from police questioning in an embassy in London.
(DefinitelyNOTAmorousBadgerOhNo, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 13:42, 185 replies)

You dreadful rapist.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 13:43, closed)

Let's face it, he's looks like the sort doesn't he?
A proper 'Supermatt' going on there.
( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 13:45, closed)

His lawyer has basically admitted that he did it.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 13:47, closed)

I can't find any flaws
in any of the zero references you provided.
(apeloverage committed the vile act of onanism on, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:07, closed)

He isn't helped by looking and sounding and acting like a creepy rapist
I'm sure the jury will look kindly on Julian though
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:12, closed)

The court transcripts are freely available. Google them.
His legal defence against extradition (or one of them) was that what he did, while it consitutes assault and rape in Sweden, it doesn't in the UK. This was shown to be demonstrably wrong at every level of UK legal process. It is very clearly rape to have sex with someone when they are not in a position to consent.

The purpose of questioning and a trial would be to decide if there is enough grounds to believe he thought he had prior consent (if he did, he's merely a fucking creepy cunt, becuase having sex with someone who isn't conscious is a pretty disturbing thing to do) or if he didn't have prior consent, in which case he's a rapist. It's pretty simple.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:40, closed)

"Google them" isn't a reference.

(apeloverage committed the vile act of onanism on, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:42, closed)

Right, and that's the flaw in the post?
well done. really.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:44, closed)

It's a flaw in the post
since the post was a defence against me pointing out you have no references.

"Google them" isn't a reference. It's not up to anyone else to find out whether there's information that supports what you're saying.

You have no references for what you're saying.
(apeloverage committed the vile act of onanism on, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:00, closed)

no, it was an instruction
Why the sweet fuck should I waste my precious time? You've provided no reference to your tinfoil hatted idiocy that he's at risk of extradition to the US, either.

In any case, my post wasn't to provide references to back up B_D, it was to provide more depth of information, to clarify the point. If you don't believe it, fine, suit yourself, but don't whine when your bollocks is shot down on here, eh?

Magistrates court

high court

supreme court
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:08, closed)

Ten steps ahead of me, as usual.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:11, closed)

This is the most piss weak argument I've ever seen.
You're just floundering now because you know that ten seconds on Google will prove you wrong.
( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:09, closed)

So you're saying my references are flawless?

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:41, closed)

I think he's flirting with you.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:43, closed)

Understandable, I'm very attractive.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:45, closed)

I would.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:16, closed)

Totally
wouldn't.
(Misery McUglywife an attention seeking sociopathic fuckstain., Tue 21 Aug 2012, 21:53, closed)

Don't worry
anonymous are on the case, DDSing websites that nobody takes any notice of.
(username failed moderation, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 13:45, closed)

i spy gets a bit boring after a while I bet

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 13:45, closed)

I bet he's a fucking whizz at hide and seek though.

( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 13:53, closed)

I see you! Hiding behind the Ecuadorian embassy regulations!

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 13:58, closed)

'I'm not coming out until you shout 'actually it's all a massive conspiracy to silence you'..
...that's the rules that is.'
( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:00, closed)

That's not true, or at least far from the whole truth.
He said that he was happy to be questioned in Britain, OR to go to Sweden if the Swedish government guaranteed not to extradite him to America. The Swedish government refused both.

See here and here.
(apeloverage committed the vile act of onanism on, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:08, closed)

And why shouldn't the Swedes refuse? What's he afraid of? That America will ask for him to be extradited?
I don't think the Swedes should be asked to make promises on America's behalf.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:10, closed)

"What's he afraid of? That America will ask for him to be extradited?"
Yes. Obviously.
(apeloverage committed the vile act of onanism on, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:14, closed)

What exactly is it that makes him above the law?

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:31, closed)

Why on sweet fucking earth
does anyone think he is likely to be extradited from Sweden? He's more likely to be extradited from the UK, and even that's basically somewhere between unlikely and impossible.

Although, he's massively increased his chances of that happening, the stupid fucking twat, by commiting an actual crime in the UK rather than merely being wanted for questioning over one in Sweden
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:43, closed)

Well, as I said
I don't think the Swedes should be asked to make promises on America's behalf.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:50, closed)

Good job they haven't then, eh?

( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:17, closed)

Indeed. It's like some people think the Swedes SHOULD.
These crazy Romans!
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:39, closed)

He's somewhat deluded if he thinks he's got any leverage to 'bargain' with a state
you crazy rapist australians
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:14, closed)

It is absolutely impossible in law to make that promise
and his lawyers know that full fucking well. It's a dodge to avoid him facing questioning.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:39, closed)

Some tired untruths
1) He is required for a second interview. The one that is done before charges are pressed. It is in accordance with Swedish law that this be done in Sweden. If it were the first interview then this may have been conducted in England. From a legal standpoint Assanges "offer" is not legally possible and he knows it. Doesn't mean his supporters can't keep repeating it, though.

2) Regarding the condition of not being extradited to America, it's very simple to say the Swedes are refusing to make this promise when the fact of the matter is that it's not lawfully possible to make that promise. Extradition requests are considered by an independent court that the government cannot influence. From a legal standpoint Assanges "condition" is not legally possible and he knows it. Doesn't mean his supporters can't keep repeating it, though.

Fuck Assange and fuck his supporters. Well done all of you for trivialising rape and sexual assault. That's beautiful of you all. You must be very proud.
(Rilux might be pregnant and has bum-aids, Wed 22 Aug 2012, 8:59, closed)

Guardianistas in "being massive hypocrites" shocker.

( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Thu 23 Aug 2012, 1:22, closed)

Are people seriously trying to argue
that there's no reasonable doubt he's being set up?
(apeloverage committed the vile act of onanism on, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:19, closed)

Depends what you call 'no reasonable doubt' really.
Personally, I'm not convinced that the witterings of various tinfoil hatters counts here.
( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:22, closed)

No it doesn't.
It depends what you call 'reasonable doubt'.

Which you declined to answer.
(apeloverage committed the vile act of onanism on, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:04, closed)

If the Us were going to make an extradition request, they'd have done so by now, what with it being a fuck of a sight easier to extradite from here than from Sweden.
There's no proof other than 'IT'S A CONSPIRACY WAKE UP SHEEPLE' to suggest anything otherwise.
( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 18:48, closed)

Rape is one of those crimes
where no matter if you did it or not.. psychologically - you are still seen as a rapist. Its the ultimate Smear crime.

If they had claimed he had robbed a shop... the shop would be able to prove accounts. With 'accused' rape... its down to a persons claim.

Even though the women in question spent the following few days inviting him to dinner, and functions.... doesn’t scream victim to me, really.
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:26, closed)

It's not rape if you shout 'surprise' first either.

( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:31, closed)

Badge, do you think this counts as one of the worst things ever written on QoTW?

( TFD is sporting this season's finest necropants, Wed 22 Aug 2012, 18:47, closed)

Generally, rape victims don't tend to look like rape victims until they get raped.

( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:33, closed)

And, really?
Fucking hell.
( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:34, closed)

Perhaps they were 'asking for it'
Y'know, dressing provocatively and that.
He is probably the real victim here. Probably.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:40, closed)

Basically, Dan is trying to tell us that he, Dan, is a rapist.

( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:42, closed)

Or to give him his full name:
Dan dan dan the rapist man.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:43, closed)

Well, hang on here
he might not be. He might just be George Galloway.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:45, closed)

"Rapey Dan" is more catchy, I think.

(Spleep Shit, or get off the internet., Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:50, closed)

Do you think if we accuse him of being a rapist enough he'll resign from QoTW?

( TFD is sporting this season's finest necropants, Wed 22 Aug 2012, 18:44, closed)

no

(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Thu 23 Aug 2012, 12:45, closed)

Normally - I would be tad dubious of said claims
but given how this has panned out, it wouldnt surprise me if its true. (that its a smear campaign only. No rape occured)

His assistant who helped uncover the crimes, has been held without trial for over 800 days. Makes you wonder why?

And then to the 'rape victims' who could have exposed him when ever they liked, but chose - quite unusually to bring it up when Assange started to look a threat to international government. Either they were on the side of the American government to begin with, or have been manipulated to say he raped them.

When was the last time governments Chased someone for Rape in the manner that our governments have? When they are threatening to break into a foreign embassy?

Seems like the government are handling this like it isnt a Rape prosectuion at all.
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:45, closed)

You mean they aren't trying to arrest a man who is suspected of sex crimes?

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:47, closed)

I believe his liberties are bing breached
he is being forced to be arrested for crimes I am dubious that he committed. With the only evidence taken from a witness. No physical evidence.

In Jail you cant carry on your wikileaking. It silences you.. whilst you await trial.. which in his friends case, is looking like indefinite trial date.

Without wanting to shout Tin foil hats and all, it reminds me of the case of en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_v._Strauss-Kahn

Removed from a position of power by an accusation of rape.
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:06, closed)

Fucks sake. Strauss-Kahn has been repeatedly accused of rape and sexual assualt
in the US and in France. What happened in your example was "powerful man got off an accusation of rape because the US legal system tends to favour money and power over truth"

Of course I don't know the details any more than you, so maybe he was innocent. Maybe he's been inncoent of every other rape accusation he's bought his way out of, too.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:10, closed)

Oh, wait.
you're trolling, aren't you? because I'm struggling to believe you're this daft actually.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:11, closed)

..im not siding, nor agreeing with anyone
Im merely pointing out, that people of power are easily removed by an alligation of rape...

its such an easy one to setup and watch them fall.
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:12, closed)

What are you talking about, crocodile-like creatures do not make accusations of sexual assault.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:15, closed)

;)
"Allegation"

... i like alligation better,.
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:18, closed)

See, well, here's the thing
they should probably stop fucking raping people, then, eh?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:17, closed)

Rapers gonna rape, yo.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:19, closed)

probably
what if they didnt though?

That wouldnt be nice...

you know, a guy being accused of rape, would it? it wouldnt destroy any credibility in him at all would it.... even if it was an "Allegation"
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:19, closed)

it doesn't generally destroy credibility if you're found not guilty.
Strauss-Kahn didn't lose his job because he was accused of rape. He lost his job because, whether it was rape or not, he fucked a hotel maid and several other women who weren't his wife, whilst not telling his wife, and it's considered pretty poor form to be head of the IMF if you're a liar. Doesn't inspire confidence in the whole thing, really.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:22, closed)

youre right
but he resigned.

having an affair isnt that bad... but WAPE? no way.
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:28, closed)

Poor old Elmer Fudd got done for wape a few years ago.

( Pig Bodine., Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:32, closed)

It was an intentional mispell.

(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:38, closed)

I got it.
It made you look mega cool.
( TFD is sporting this season's finest necropants, Wed 22 Aug 2012, 18:42, closed)

thanks
(gloats)
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Thu 23 Aug 2012, 12:43, closed)

having an affair isn't that bad, no
oh, except if you hold a position where your honesty must be unquestionable, and you lie about it. Like he did. A lot.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:41, closed)

this part I agree with

(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:53, closed)

OK, for the sake of not just swearing a lot and be amazed how apparently rational people can believe such idiot things
Shall we deal with these points one by one?

- his "assistant" is a serving member of the military and has been detained as such. Why? because they can. Personally, no, I don't like that, but what on earth has that to do with whether Assange raped someone or not?

- You know absolutely nothing (I am assuming, please correct me if I'm wrong) about Swedish judicial process, so how can you comment on this? And I seriously doubt any goverment regards Assange as a "threat". And even in the highly unlikely event these two women are "setting him up" (which isn't really the issue now, is it, becuase he's admitted to what he is accused of, via his lawyer) the Swedish judicial system clearly is not. So, he has nothing to fear from questioning if he isn't guilty. The Swedish legal system is widely held up as a model of fairness and honesty.

- you don't have the faintest idea when someone last pursued someone for rape like this because the newspapers don't bang on about it unless it is someone in the public eye. Extraditions for crimes much lesser than rape happen on almost daily basis.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:56, closed)

Stop it, you're making my willy go fizzy.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:58, closed)

I also forgot
he can't be extradited from Sweden or UK or anywhere fucking else in europe to face the death penalty. Not won't, or isn't likely, but CAN'T. given that "fear of facing the death penalty" is one of the legal bases of his spurious appeals against extradition to Sweden, he's at the very least a massive fucking liar.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:01, closed)

Or an idiot. But probably both.
It concerns me that his lawyer went ahead with that one though, as it suggests he either doesn't understand the law himself, or is just parroting whatever Assange tells him to.
( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:06, closed)

His lawyer "is just parroting whatever Assange tells him to"?
You know that lawyers have to follow their instructions right? That's sort of the basis of the whole thing.

Another fine legal mind.
(apeloverage committed the vile act of onanism on, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:37, closed)

not if they are fucking stupid, or involve breaking the law
I mean, they are supposed to follow instructions, but any half-decent lawyer would have told Assange the grounds for appeal were idiotic.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:40, closed)

Blimey, you really are a mong.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:57, closed)

I love how I provide a vaguely rational and almost polite answer
and underneath, you just say what we're both thinking. It's like a double-team of sexy.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:00, closed)

I'm your internal monologue. On the internet.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:12, closed)

mongologue?

(Misery McUglywife an attention seeking sociopathic fuckstain., Tue 21 Aug 2012, 22:11, closed)

totally done a big wank to this thread

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:16, closed)

I dont agree with the 'death penalty' bit myself.
But I can see this is just an easy way to stop assange hooking up a PC with his wikileaks friends and continuing his project to expose the governments.

Its all a little bit too convenient.

Im not denying they had sex.. they did, they both admit that. But to come out and say he raped them, just hours after he was exposed as mr.wikileaks, is a tad rather suspicious.

Why didnt she exclaim at an earlier point? Why wait til the hour he is exposing the very people she was also working to expose?
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:10, closed)

how do you know when she reported it? you only know when the Swedish courts and press announced it
And it's not going to stop him being anywhere near a PC. This is Sweden. SWEDEN. not fucking China. He won't even be remanded in custody if he's charged, unless he demonstrated a massive flight risk. Oh, wait, the idiot fucker jumped bail and saught political asylum? Ah. bit of a problem there. Probably a flight risk after all. So, the only reason he'd be locked up awaiting trial is purely and totally down to his own stupidity. If that's a government seeking to silence someone they've got a seriously roundabout way of doing it.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:16, closed)

What the actual fuck?
He'd been known as the founder of Wikileaks for fucking ages before this, and they can easily carry it on without him. It's not about stopping Wikileaks, it's about applying the justice system correctly because an accusation has been made.
( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:18, closed)

He had
but the allegation came out at the peak of the wikileaks ability of headline hitting.
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:30, closed)

You mean when he was at the peak of his attention seeking arrogance and thought he was Wikileaks?

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:37, closed)

ahem...'MR'
MR.Wikileaks
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:58, closed)

Im merely
showing you that his accomplice has already been arrested and silenced.

Which i believe is what is happening here. I think alot of people can also see it, hence his support.

It has nothing and everything to do with the rape.

Whether the Rape accusation is true or not... Assange will be held in jail... away from the press, wont be able to communicate, and any data he has will be destroyed whilst we wait for a trial.

They could of course kill him, but then - that attracts bad press, as we saw with that Russian guy with the radiation poisoning.

I agree, if has raped the girl - Then he is a massive dick.
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:16, closed)

as I pointed out above
the only reason he would be held in jail is if he was a flight risk. Which he's just demonstrably shown he is. Making it a fairly odd conspiracy, don't you think, since it relies on him fucking everything up for himself?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:19, closed)

I think we can see the problem hear
If she'd have screamed, it would definitely have been rape?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:44, closed)

no
but good old prejudice towards what is quite possibly - an innocent man. Proven til found guilty and all that.

If the UK government are threatening to break into a foreign embassy - then surely they are treating him like a known criminal?

or could it be the UK govment have the US breathing down their necks?
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:47, closed)

Nobody is threatening to break into an embassy.
They merely pointed out that they had the option of revoking embassy status, at which point the police would be free to enter the building that would no longer be an embassy.
( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:51, closed)

...and that doesnt scare you or even worry you in the slightest?
Had this been in China or North Korea, would you be suspicious?
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:54, closed)

Why would it?

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:55, closed)

He is a fucking known criminal, you idiot (I've given up being polite here)
He's broken the law in the UK.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:58, closed)

are you sure he has broken the law in the UK

(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:33, closed)

er, yeah.
He's skipped bail. That's against the law.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:38, closed)

so have you, with that post
You have transmitted an offensive message (language) via the web.
You are guilty under the same laws that the UK arrests internet trolls.
(tyrellsOwl, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:39, closed)

I'm going to go out on a limb here
no I fucking haven't. Calling an adult an idiot for being an idiot is not offensive. Could I be arrested for saying it to him in a pub? nope. So good luck getting a prosecution on that one.

Although, in the same breath comparing me calling Dan an idiot with skipping bail to avoid questioning about rape ... that's special.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:43, closed)

Look out TMB, the internet police are onto you.

( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:48, closed)

They'll probably get me for implying that Barrymore and Norton like "Teh cock"

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:55, closed)

Where is INTERNET LAWYERMAN when we need him?

( TFD is sporting this season's finest necropants, Wed 22 Aug 2012, 19:20, closed)

you said fuck to someone on the internet
Read the case, precedence has been set
(tyrellsOwl, Thu 23 Aug 2012, 10:41, closed)

Get fucked you stupid bender.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:45, closed)

Fuck off, cunt.

( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 22:10, closed)

For fucks sake. You fucking wanker.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Wed 22 Aug 2012, 19:29, closed)

Doesn't make a fuck of difference to his current charade.
that's for a court to decide. he may be being set up by the women, he's certainly not being set up by the Swedish judicial system.

And he can't and won't be extradited from either Sweden or the UK to face the death penalty, or any of the other shit his legal team have played in a weasel attempt to avoid answering to the crime he is accused of.

or, just, y'know, read a proper legal analysis of the whole thing rather than listening to tinfoil hatted arse, eh?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:32, closed)

Yeah but he's magically special and doesn't have to submit to the same judicial process as the rest of the world.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:40, closed)

It's a pretty fucking special achievement to be accused of rape
and manage to spend all your time convincing idiots that you're the victim rather than go for the more traditional approach of demonstrating your apparent innocence.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:46, closed)

I'm fairly sure that if he hadn't jumped bail and just gone to court and dealt with it like a grown up, he probably would have been released.
He thinks he is far more important than he is.
( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:49, closed)

The fact his buddy is locked up - still awaiting a court date..812 days on
probably puts him off the idea of wanting to be caught.. guilty or not.

you can see why assange has a lot to be weary of
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:52, closed)

he's guilty of espionage in the United States, apart from the rape in Sweden
he's like an international criminal. I hope he gets locked up for like a million years
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:01, closed)

The United States government has stated
that they reserve the right to treat people they perceive as enemies however they like.

They've also stated that they see Assange as an enemy.

There's reasonable doubt that, if he goes to Sweden, he won't be extradited to the US and treated as an enemy.

Therefore he shouldn't be extradited to Sweden.
(apeloverage committed the vile act of onanism on, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:39, closed)

There's also reasonable doubt that he would get extradited.
What with the US not having made any extradition requests and all that.
( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:45, closed)

That's not how reasonable doubt works.
Reasonable doubt should be resolved in favour of the accused.

"He might not be being fitted up" isn't a valid counter-argument to "he might be being fitted up."
(apeloverage committed the vile act of onanism on, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:02, closed)

There is no reason to suggest he's being fitted up unless you're a tinfoil hat wearing loon.
How's that?
( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 17:36, closed)

what's your opinion on 9/11?

( The Doveston haunted by the memory of his own amnesia, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:46, closed)

Oh, well played sir.
well played.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:46, closed)

Al Qaeda is a front for Wikileaks

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:47, closed)

That's a straw argument.
Obviously.
(apeloverage committed the vile act of onanism on, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:03, closed)

did you think the twin towers were made of straw?

( The Doveston haunted by the memory of his own amnesia, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:08, closed)

They should have got the third little pig to build them instead.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:15, closed)

Except for that whole thing where they won't extradite someone who faces capital punishment.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:52, closed)

or extradite him without a fight, what with Sweden being a notorious US puppet
or, as AB so right points out, extradite him at all, since THE US HASN'T ASKED TO...... arrgggghh.

It's like banging your head against a wall made of tinfoil-coated retard, B_D
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:57, closed)

so are you saying its impossible for the US to ask for extraditon after Assange is in sweden?
If so, that could be the deal breaker.
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:01, closed)

No, but it's hugely unlikely that they'll be told yes.
www.newstatesman.com/blogs/david-allen-green/2012/08/legal-myths-about-assange-extradition
( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:06, closed)

interesting.

(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:10, closed)

It's ALMOST like I didn't post that article just up there
right at the start of this shenanigans.

And it's ALMOST as if that article doesn't contain direct links to the court transcripts in question that apeloverage was demanding.

Which would suggest it's ALMOST as if people were arguing half-baked incoherencies blindly in the face of straight-up evidence that they are being idiots.

I'm starting to have some sympathy for Rory here, I have to say.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:17, closed)

Shall I call someone Hitler and we can just draw a line under the whole thing?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:19, closed)

please, for the love of god.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:37, closed)

It's not impossible to extradite anyone from anywhere
if the countries share an extradition agreement. however there is absolutely nothing, legally, that would make it easier to extradite him from Sweden than the UK, which is where he already was. In fact, it would be twice as hard, as it stands, as if he were in Sweden he would need to be extradited from both the UK AND Sweden.

So, his argument that if he goes to Sweden he is at risk is rubbish, he's at less risk than he was in the UK.

And he can't be extradited to face the death penalty at all, from either country, so that's just complete bollocks.

And anyway, no one has asked to extradite him. Which is kind of a crucial flaw.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:12, closed)

what an utter cunt

( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:42, closed)

I think he's definitely a rapist
I can feel it, do you know what I mean? Sometimes I can just sense these things.
( Two Hats I saw someone eating M&M's with a spoon, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:45, closed)

I bet you can feel right in the depths of your vagina

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:48, closed)

Or indeed in someone else's

( Two Hats I saw someone eating M&M's with a spoon, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:48, closed)

b3ta.com/questions/footinmouthtwo/post1709422
( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:49, closed)

Much appreciated
Scrolling upwards WAS becoming a bit of a nuisance
( Two Hats I saw someone eating M&M's with a spoon, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:50, closed)

So this is where everyone is
He done a rape in Sweden maybe, therefore he should go to Sweden to face due process. The rest is irrelavant.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:46, closed)

YOU'RE irrelevant
Nah, you're alright you are
( Two Hats I saw someone eating M&M's with a spoon, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:51, closed)

Hey
look on the bright side, this entire thread is full of people that prove beyond doubt that you are far from the bentest spastic on B3ta.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:52, closed)

I love you man

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:53, closed)

Hey, are you calling me a bent spastic?
that's fucking internet bullying and I'm going to sound the drama horn.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:59, closed)

Now, now, I'm fairly sure you know full well which side of the argument is the bent spastic side.
You're just on the futlile arguing side of the fence.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:04, closed)

but maybe I want to be the bent spastic sometimes :(
did you consider that?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:13, closed)

Dude, you play hockey. It's covered.

( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:42, closed)

I'm changing club this season
and the best transfer fee I've been offered so far is a couple of pints and some haribo. I think I might be past my prime, old chap. Sad times.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:47, closed)

Im bored of this now
Im exhausted of all Internet Argumental strength...
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:57, closed)

maybe don't be a prick then

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:58, closed)

And now I love you back.

( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:59, closed)

who said anything about me being a prick?
Why so serious?
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:02, closed)

i am always very serious, the internet is serious business after all

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:04, closed)

I imagine it is very tiring being so stupid and wrong.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:01, closed)

you must be fucking knackered!
;)
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:09, closed)

How come these cunts are all so fat then?

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 19:53, closed)

It's not rape
if they don't say no. And if they're asleep they ain't saying shit.
(TheManWithThePlan cussed your mum on, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:11, closed)

clearly this is a manifesto I can subscribe to.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:13, closed)

I'd like to hear Whoopi Goldberg's opinion on all of this

(FUN TIMES FUN FUN FUN, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:43, closed)

y'know, it's all about whether its "rape" rape, right?

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:46, closed)

I'm not sure her opinion counts, I don't think Assange forced his penis up the rectum of an unwilling 15 year old girl.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 18:35, closed)

well, we don't know, here.
there would have been a lot of sleeping 15 year old girls in Sweden. Who knows?

This does actually raise my biggest issue with this whole thing. How do you fuck someone who's asleep without them noticing? He must have an absolutely TINY cock.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 22 Aug 2012, 10:55, closed)

I'm only posting so I can say that I did.
And to tell Apeloverage he's a cunt again.
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:40, closed)

I'm just praying for tangles to summon Godwin and put an end to this.
Although, I'm warming to that Dan chap as he actually appears to be reading stuff and listening to things and maybe changing his opinion about certain things when extra info is provided, rather than rocking in a corner singing "lalalalalala I'm not listening"

Top internetting, all round.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:45, closed)

He seems like a nice chap, for a rapist.

( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 17:38, closed)

Dan the reasonable rapist.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 18:36, closed)

if i had the bollocks
i would change my user id to this...

but i dont, so i wont.
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 19:34, closed)

Change your sig.

( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 22:11, closed)

I like this.

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Thu 23 Aug 2012, 9:40, closed)

Just a few points:
Initially neither of the victims accused Assange of anything we would call "rape" in the UK. One did go on to accuse him of "sleep rape" (though said she was awake on Twitter) but, even then, she stated she consented on being awoken. This would, apparently, not result in a prosecution under the standard scheme of things due to there being insufficient indication of lack of consent.
The two women were interviewed together. This does not happen and would constitute another grounds for the case not making court.
Two alleged rape victims are being allowed to take on the same (corporate) lawyer. Apparently a legal first in Sweden.

So there is some evidence that Swedish procedure was not followed correctly (there is more if you look). The fact that the UK courts didn't seem to take that into account seems odd too -- though I don't suppose it's their job to check whether the charges look "trumped up".

As for the US being after him -- the US are well known for using snatch teams and other illegal methods to grab people to torture and kill and, apparently, Mr Assange and his legal team see more threat from that in Sweden than the UK. Why they think that is hard to ascertain. The UK intelligence services admitting to being party to rendition to torture on a number of occasions and having to answer for it before been "warned off" may have something to do with it? There's mention of Sweden allowing CIA snatch teams to operate there but I can't be arsed grepping through Wikileaks etc. to look for it.
(Me, I'm not... in any way intoxicated, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 19:02, closed)

Or no points, even.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 19:03, closed)

Typo/connection problem which has been corrected.

(Me, I'm not... in any way intoxicated, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 19:26, closed)

Nope, still no points, just tinfoil hatting.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 19:31, closed)

Tinfoil hat, why? Where did I mention any conspiracies?
If my points don't at least show you that the case in Sweden is unusual then you're deliberately ignoring them.
Funny how there was to be no prosecution until Claes Borgström persuaded his friend Marianne Ny they should pursue a case against Assange. Nothing fishy about that, no.
The above has nothing to do with the US government, you'll notice. My point is Swedish law is not being followed by Swedish courts and the Swedish prosecutors made some odd decisions. This was all brought up at the time by many people.
(Me, I'm not... in any way intoxicated, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 20:09, closed)

You're now into a negative number of points and enough tin foil to double wrap a cow.

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 22:04, closed)

Why would I need a tinfoil hat?
Forget all the other crap for a minute, how is this a normal Swedish case?
I see no responses to my points (all raised by people conversant with Swedish law at the time of the original accusations).
(Me, I'm not... in any way intoxicated, Wed 22 Aug 2012, 0:21, closed)

Come in out the rain, your tinfoil hat'll rust.

( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Wed 22 Aug 2012, 0:54, closed)

Try some socks.
Your metal boots must be cold.
(Me, I'm not... in any way intoxicated, Wed 22 Aug 2012, 1:27, closed)

You haven't made any points.
You've waved your hands about and repeated the same bland assertion that there is something unusual about the timing of the accusations and now you're assigning it to unnamed "experts" to give your non-point the weight of authority.

Null points.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Wed 22 Aug 2012, 7:41, closed)

Here's a thought
read the transcripts of the UK court documents (i've kindly linked them at the top since apparently knowing how to google for reliable information seems a little challenging for some here) rather than some generic "the internet" as a source of your knowledge of the case notes regarding the charges made.

Conclusions: at every court level in the UK what he is accused of, and has always been accused of, is demonstrably rape both in Sweden and the UK. Doesn't make him guilty, does mean he must be questioned and arrested if needs be. Swedish law is being entirely followed, hence why the UK courts questioned an absolute fuckton of Swedish law experts during the course of all three court cases

The only serious thing the UK courts found was odd was the leaking of information to the press, but that was found to be a local police station, not the victims or the prosecutors. On the other hand, they found Assange's lawyer to be a lying, manipulating fuckweasel at every turn, who repeatedly "forgot" to arrange for his client to be questioned, amonst other things, while he helped arrange for him to leave Sweden. You want a conspiracy? that's the only one here. Lawyer aids wanted man in fleeing rape charge shocker.

Am I allowed to get on with my life, now, or do I still have to keep coming back and explaining the difference between reality and Assange-based tinfoilery?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 22 Aug 2012, 10:48, closed)

Hang on, right.
you can't be arsed trawling through Wikileaks? Information placed on the internet by Assange*, to which no-one could possibly verify the authenticity of, which magically might show Assange is at risk of some CIA thing, and you can't see the epic fucking flaw in that?

Jesus wept. I need to stop wasting effort writing actual proper peer reviewed scientific papers and just start publishing on the web I can cure cancer and make new organs from scratch. As if I say it that's apparently enough to make it true.

*I appreciate not actually directly by him, but the point is the same
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 22 Aug 2012, 10:53, closed)

That'd make you a post-normal scientist.
Bonus points for using your academic standing to discredit anyone who dares to question your methods, or even just ask for the raw data.
( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Thu 23 Aug 2012, 1:20, closed)

Woodside, I gave them the raw data.
in links up there. The actual facts, the court transcripts, as opposed to half baked persecution complexes. No-one cares about what's actually true.

The academic comment is a completely valid point. "because someone on the internet says so" has become the currency of truth. Wikipedia is, apparently, a valid reference resource in science (at least according to some of my younger and more gullible students). The press leap on things pre-peer review. It's a fucking shambles.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 23 Aug 2012, 10:35, closed)

Oh, for fuck's sake, let's spread this internet argument all over b3ta like it's horseshit and we're a field, why don't we?
Bitching about politics is exactly what we all come here for, I'm sure!
(EvilTerran rearranged his letters on, Wed 22 Aug 2012, 15:04, closed)

Fair play to you, sir or madam
You have kept every troll on this site occupied for a considerable amount of time. Whoever "Julian Assange" is, you've definitely stirred the spastics' nest and roused pretty much every subhuman this subsector of the site has to offer.

I doff my hat to you.
( emvee cruor deo cruoris, Wed 22 Aug 2012, 19:34, closed)

So you've posted just to goad people? Well done. Aren't you the one who typically moans about others trying to do the same?
Seems to me that this is apt: www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEUsHnae7z0
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Wed 22 Aug 2012, 19:41, closed)

Fair play to you, sir or madam
You have kept every troll on this site occupied for a conSMUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUG
( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Thu 23 Aug 2012, 1:16, closed)

I'm genuinely intriugued
as to how offering clear factual evidence to attempt to convice people that they are talking shite counts as trolling. Good stuff.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 23 Aug 2012, 10:32, closed)