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Overheard the other day: "I've told you before - stop swearing in front of the kids, for fuck's sake." Your tales of double standards please.

(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 12:21)
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Vegetarians
Why do vegetarians expect their hosts to provide meat-free meals for them, yet won't make meals with meat for their own carnivorous guests?

Fucking hypocrites.
(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 13:46, 20 replies)
Exactly,
the lettuce munching cunts.
(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 13:48, closed)
I resent this
I am to a large extent a vegetarian - and if I am cooking for my family or friends I will *always* cook something with meat for them.

/sulks.
damn stereotypes.
(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 13:53, closed)
Then you are most certainly not a hypocrite, and are deserving of much fluffyness.
Sadly, the stereotype is generally true.
(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 14:05, closed)
me too!
because if i'm at their house they'll generally cook me something animal free. it's nice to return the favour.
of course, then i am told repeatedly that i'm a horrible vegetarian for even thinking about touching raw meat to cook for my friends.
gah. can't win!
(, Fri 20 Feb 2009, 2:51, closed)
Yes!
My parents were strict vegetarians in their household. By age 12 I had decided I was definately a meat eater, so they decided to provide me with a 'Meat Allowance' in addition to my pocket money to provide me with true carnivourous freedom!
(, Fri 20 Feb 2009, 10:10, closed)
I was once ...
... thrown out of a Vegetarian restaurant for demanding the meat option.

Humourless bastards.
(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 13:55, closed)
hypocrites?
I think you misspelled there - it's spelled CUNTS
(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 13:56, closed)
Not entirely true
Mrs V is a strict veggie, but has no probs in cooking meat for me or others. The only thing is that she can't taste it to see if the seasoning needs adjusting and has to rely on me for that.
(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 13:58, closed)
And me.
I'm a vegetarian but will buy and cook meat for someone else.

Edit - Doesn't mean I'll be able to cook it very well though.
(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 14:04, closed)
It's not hypocrisy
... unless you're the kind of omnivore who refuses to eat anything non-meat. Noone is forcing you to eat veg against your will - it's just that there's no meat option. But since there's an indefinite number of other things that also aren't options, and about which you have no complaint, I don't see the problem.
(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 14:28, closed)
I'm a meatarian
And I demand equal status. I cannot eat anything but meat. Even my chips are made from sausages. Rice? Try half a kilo of crispy shredded beef.

I once had a vegetable and nearly died. Ketchup is alright though.

EDIT: Sorry, I am being hypocritical. I love vegetables, me.
(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 14:36, closed)
I really don't feel comfortable
or think it ethical to have a meal without meat.

I mean there are kids starving in Africa, and we've got all this meat over here. Why the hell don't we eat it?
Plus if we eat loads of steak it'll kill those environment-killing green house gas pumping out cows.
(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 14:41, closed)
Exactly
That's why I always wear my 'Fartbusters' T-shirt before I eat my 72 ounce boogie board steaks.
(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 14:49, closed)

If you eat a load of steaks, you provide a reason for those environment-killing green house gas pumping out cows to exist in the first place.

I vaguely remember reading somewhere that it takes 6kg of perfectly-edible grain to produce 1kg of beef.

We're expending 6kg of food to produce 1kg of food. Hmm. I wonder why Africa is starving.
(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 16:02, closed)
I think, and this is only a guess
That it's because they don't have enough meat.
(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 16:55, closed)
^^
succinct
(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 17:09, closed)

And pretty unbeatable. I mean, how do you respond to that? :)

I concede defeat.
(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 19:02, closed)
cows eat grass
not grain

we eat cows

we are in turn merely eating grass

cows are merely black and white grass converters

there's shitloads of grass everywhere... I see no problems.

Furthermore I am going to patent this argument as I just made it up and believe it to be brilliant..

do you agree ?
(, Fri 20 Feb 2009, 0:45, closed)

Read:

www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/78/3/660S

It seems to suggest that cows don't just eat grass; they get varying suppliments of feed:

"The 2 livestock systems depending most heavily on forage but ALSO USING SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF GRAIN ARE THE BEEF AND LAMB PRODUCTION SYSTEMS (Table 3). The beef system has a ratio of 40:1, while the lamb has the highest, with a ratio of 57:1 (Table 2). If these animals were fed on only good-quality pasture, the energy inputs could be reduced by about half." (caps are added by me for emphasis)

So it seems there would be no problem...if the farmers were actually just feeding grass to the cows, which it seems they aren't doing.
(, Fri 20 Feb 2009, 12:21, closed)
Our cattle only get grass
and then hay in the winter - which is pretty much long dry grass.

I live on a mini cattle farm and I'm vego. I feel bad.
(, Thu 26 Feb 2009, 6:17, closed)

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