why do you put vegetarians and bumlords in the same bracket, monty?
we could be about to have our very first tiff. online.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:03, 5 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

because they are both fundamentally wrong-headed

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:05, Reply)

chewing sinewy rotting animal carcass
that's what is wrong in the head.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:06, Reply)

if it's rotting then you are doing it wrong
on the whole, meat is delicious and nutritious. Unfortunately your malnourished vegetarian brain won't allow you to comprehend that
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:08, Reply)

It's too weakened too compute properly, I expect.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:11, Reply)

you
you're on my List!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:12, Reply)

Your 'would' list?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:13, Reply)

NOT
ANY


MORE
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:16, Reply)

*spots opportunity for smuggery, raises hand*
I fucking LOVE vegetarians
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:20, Reply)

sm b
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:38, Reply)

bindun

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:38, Reply)

*cries*

*mops up tears with bacon sandwich*
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:21, Reply)

hahahaha

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:24, Reply)

I always feel a strong compulsion to stick up for vegetarians, despite not being one myself
What REALLY pisses me off is when someone says "I'm vegetarian, but I eat fish". Well you're not fucking vegetarian then are you? You're pescetarian. It's like saying "I'm monogamous, but I have the odd sex affair".
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:14, Reply)

Growing up, we ate meat no more than a few times a week.
Taunting vegetarians is simply a hobby of mine.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:16, Reply)

mine too
because it's so easy

also, they are missing out on some really very fucking good food.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:17, Reply)

On the other hand
I don't know a single vegetarian who isn't a top-notch cook. I suppose you have to get good with flavours.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:21, Reply)

I do.
He lives on fake bacon, fried eggs and Linda McCartney pies. Basically like a lorry driver but with meat substitute products. He's a fat cunt.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:22, Reply)

most of the ones I know tend towards this type
not quite as extreme, but definitely in this direction.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:23, Reply)

Bizarre
All the veggies I know cook amazingly good food
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:28, Reply)

Yes you do.

(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:23, Reply)

Oh yeah, you did mention your "open, heat" attitude towards cooking

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:27, Reply)

I am a genius with eggs
Nothing else though. I hate cooking.
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:32, Reply)

Good job your birthday present will likely kill our appetites then

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:38, Reply)

I used to work with a veggie whose idea of vegetarian cuisine extended as far as
chocolate, cheese, cream cakes, and crisps.

Perhaps not surprisingly, she was fat as fook.
(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:24, Reply)

Cutting out so complex a protein to break down as meat
and still being fat is actually quite an achievement
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:28, Reply)

Yeah, she could barely reach her keyboard for her enormous baps
And I'm not talking about the ones she filled with crisps for her midmorning snack either.
(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:42, Reply)

You mean the nosebag?
Very popular amongst lazy bloaters, I believe
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:47, Reply)

Baps are rolls (or buns) in Scotland.

(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:57, Reply)

For some bizarre reason I thought you said bags
Apologies
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 11:03, Reply)

yeah, but they get loads of sausage

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:21, Reply)

Falsehood
However, does that make a vegetarian bumlord right-headed, via the well-know "two wrongs make a right" ruling?
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:07, Reply)

that's not how it works
it obeys the principle of superimposition
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:08, Reply)

Words of three syllables or less, please
Lived in Norfolk 13 years now. It gets to you
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:12, Reply)

They are almost interchangable words.
'Fuck off you fucking vegetarian, Crow' for example.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:07, Reply)

Allow me to explain with a Venn Diagram

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:09, Reply)

*applause*

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:09, Reply)

Fucking brilliant

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:10, Reply)

*sends to all vegetarians I know*

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:11, Reply)

IGNORE DRUM
being banged RIGHT HERE
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:11, Reply)

Gah! Fucking work firewall
Stick it on my FB page. I imagine Ms Foxtrot will LOVE that
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:12, Reply)

Holy shit, you actually did
Very good
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:19, Reply)

Ask and ye shall receive
And thanks!
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:21, Reply)

I used to work for a chef who was convivnced that all veggies were lesbians
irrespective of their gender.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:12, Reply)

It's a sound theory.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:14, Reply)

You worked for Gordon Ramsay?
He hates vegetarians and women who won't fuck him too.

I can also assure you that this theory is inaccurate, in at least one case.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:15, Reply)

She is in the lesbo cupboard, with a marrow

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:19, Reply)

I am becoming increasingly tempted towards a sapphic way of life
So maybe he's right?

I don't think it's the vegetables though, it's more to do with the fact that I'm sick of idiots.
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:21, Reply)

guess what?
a lot of women are idiots too. At least men aren't irrational
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:22, Reply)

I'll say it again
Men are shit, women are crazy.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:24, Reply)

This may be the most succint-yet-accurate definition of gender relations I've ever seen

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:26, Reply)

Men are from bars
women have no penis
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:27, Reply)

Amusing
but less descriptive
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:29, Reply)

It's my motto
I need to trademark it and maybe write a book. One of those small pocket ones that expensive gift shops sell.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:33, Reply)

This, literally with knobs on.
Dividing up idiots/not idiots along gender lines is the act of an idiot.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:25, Reply)

I agree with the idiots bit
but not the irrational. They're as bad as each other
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:25, Reply)

I was exaggerating somewhat
but I'd definitely say that women have the edge on irrationality
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:26, Reply)

I don't think so
most of the things men point at as evidence of irrationality or stupidity, are simply examples of a mindset that men have as well directed in a direction men don't think is worth pursuing
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:27, Reply)

I submit that no man has ever got in a mood with their female partner
because of something they know full well they only did in a dream
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:30, Reply)

That's hardly a widespread female thing!

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:31, Reply)

Yes it is

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:31, Reply)

No it isn't
I had a dream based on The Omega Man but with zombies, didn't make me wake up and think I should stab people in the head

/female logic haha

But seriously, it's not widespread.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:33, Reply)

there really is no room for any inconsistency in a discussion with you!

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:34, Reply)

Yes it is
She didn't speak to me for a whole day cos of what I'd "done" - in a fucking dream.
(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:47, Reply)

Yeah, but they have tits
Which is a win.

I'm sorry, I spent the weekend ignoring texts from an over-amorous married man and a wannabe rapist.

So I'm indulging in a little bit of misandry today.
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:26, Reply)

Fuck off
I've already told you I'm not married. And what are you doing giving Chompy your number?
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:26, Reply)

I think a ZING goes just....about....here

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:28, Reply)

Ugh, seriously - the married guy is disgusting
Permit me to quote (this is just after he confessed he was married with 3 kids):

"Hi Bella. I currently have a large smile on my face that and interesting and beautiful girl would even speak to me. Morals are curious things and to some extent flexible in my mind. Does that make me a bad person? I have to say I would like us to see each other again on some basis, even if only for conversation. Meeting you has awakened something in me that has been dormant for a long time. xxxxxx"

That message was actually about twice as long, but mainly carried on in the same vein.

Then he sent 10 more messages (I didn't reply), inlcluding one saying "To be brutally honest, I want you to be my lover and my mistress xxxxxxxxxx"

*vomit*
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:42, Reply)

Christ, he doesn't know you at all, does he
I'd strongly advise no response at all, but if you were to respond, I'd go with "it's been a long time since you tried it on with a 21-year-old, hasn't it?"
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:46, Reply)

I eventually sent him a message that said
"I do not fuck people with kids. Stop texting me."

Nothing for nearly two days now. Yay.
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:49, Reply)

*hides kids*

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:54, Reply)

what an arse
"Morals are...somewhat flexible in my mind"

complete twat. have an affair if you want, but don't try and justify it by discussing your morals.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:50, Reply)

Agreed
The last thing anyone wants to engage in during an illicit sex affair is a discussion as to how what they're doing is OK really

So I'm told
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:55, Reply)

true
It's important to revel in the wrongness.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 11:26, Reply)

He's a keeper.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 11:05, Reply)

In some ways I respect vegans more
At least they have courage in their convictions. That is assuming the veggies reasons are along the lines of not wanting to kill fluffy animals
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:20, Reply)

those are stupid reasons
the only acceptable one is "I don't like the taste/texture of meat" and even then they are being dumb because it's not all the same.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:22, Reply)

Hang about
Not eating meat, or wearing leather, etc, because of a belief that animals are entitled to not have to die for it, is a stupid reason?
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:25, Reply)

yep
it's natural. We've just taken it further because we have the ability to do so.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:26, Reply)

Elaborate

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:27, Reply)

I'm afraid I'm right with Vipros there

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:28, Reply)

I think you and I have had this discussion
If I were vegetarian and you tried to get me to eat meat my reply would be curt in the extreme
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:31, Reply)

I wouldn't shove meat down a vegetarian's throat
and the one time I changed a vegetarian I was remorseful in the extreme. I still think they're wrong though
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:32, Reply)

Two questions
Why do you think they're wrong? And why did you do it if it made you so remorseful?
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:36, Reply)

because she can't back down when she thinks she is right
;-)
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:39, Reply)

You may have a point :)
I only did it as a joke, but because he was going out with me and mumbling about love he did it.

Edit: to clarify I didn't do anything really horrible, like ask him not to be a vegetarian, or threaten to stop dating him. I did offer him a piece of one of the best steaks I've ever had.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:40, Reply)

Fair enough
If it was only an offer then it's his decision whether to stick by his beliefs or try to impress a girl
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:45, Reply)

I still felt terrible
because we split up a month or two later
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:47, Reply)

Well, I wouldn't offer Ms Foxtrot meat
because I know her well enough to know it would be faintly insulting. But I fucking well SHOULD know that much by now. You weren't to know how he'd react, really
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:53, Reply)

If God didn't want us to eat animals
he wouldn't have made them so tasty.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:31, Reply)

you've surely heard the whole of the argument before
eating meat is a natural thing, a lot of other animals do it.

Mankind got where it is by adaptation and by making use of the resources around us. Animals are one of those things.

I don't buy bacon from Denmark for example, because they treat the pigs rather badly, but I don't believe that we are wrong to eat them at all.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:32, Reply)

Yes I have heard them all before
an you make a good point about evolution, however as independent people we are entitled to individual opinions. It's no more stupid to avoid meat because of a belief that animals are entitled to live than it is to have faith in the teachings of the Bible. Although I imagine you'd be quite happy to tell someone they were stupid to believe in god too, so this may be an "agree to disagree" thing
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:36, Reply)

I don't object to people having their opinions
as long as they don't object to my opinion that they are stupid and/or delusional
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:39, Reply)

So you expect people to be fine with you calling them stupid?

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:43, Reply)

Of course. He is VIPROS! Hear him roar!

(porkylips looks better as the sun goes down., Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:44, Reply)

He's lucky that vegetarians are usually scrawny wimps, eh

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:48, Reply)

*shrugs*
most people are stupid

seriously though, I have what is commonly referred to as tact. Even if I do think someone is stupid, or don't agree with their views I don't necessarily feel the need to call them out on it. Particularly if it has nothing to do with how I interact with them.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:48, Reply)

*tries to remember that B3ta is no place for tact*
Otherwise you'd have disproved yourself above, there are at least three vegetarians posting at the minute. It is hard to argue with your point about gross human stupidity, though. Too much evidence backing it up.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:52, Reply)

I am under no illusions that I would persuade them to change
and nor would I try. I'd inform them that I think they are missing out, but no more than that really.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:57, Reply)

I wouldn't
Red rag to a bull. You'll end up in a protracted discussion about the nutritional benefits of various grains and pulses you've never heard of (best-case scenario) or animal rights
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:59, Reply)

thing is
I don't have a problem with all the grains and pulses and stuff. Things like quinoa are quite nice.

But meat is fucking lovely.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 11:02, Reply)

I know, I know
I actually had quinoa for lunch yesterday. Simmered it for a while with some diced brocolli and boullion. It was really nice. But I'd rather have had SHARK

The problem with living with and cooking for a vegetarian is that meat is considered poor form. I do find it heightens my appreciation of it when I get it though
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 11:08, Reply)

my ex was mostly a veggie as well
although she did eat fish, and if pushed chicken. She just didn't like meat, but unfortunately for her was allergic to peppers, and hated things like aubergine.

If she hadn't been a big fan of fish I couldn't have gone out with her for 2 and a half years.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 11:17, Reply)

the difference is though
on b3ta everything is fair game. My political sympathies, Bella's vegetarianism, AA's latent tranny status
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:58, Reply)

indeed
it's refreshing to have a place where you don't have to hold back. I wouldn't have to with my friends, but we are a fairly homogenous bunch when it comes to our views, so I don't have to.


(strikethrough away)
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:59, Reply)

That said, we seem to have managed a serious discussion
in which no-one called each other a cunt. This place has CHANGED
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 11:02, Reply)

you've just never had a prolonged serious discussion with me
you cunt
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 11:05, Reply)

Probably not, no
Shitbag
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 11:09, Reply)

*sighs* I'm tired so I'll go for the easy one
genous +sexual
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 11:02, Reply)

My mate is a death metaller.
And apparently part of the scene at the moment is a drift towards militant veganism. He has countered this with a t-shirt carrying a representation of human dentition and arrows pointing to the canines with a legend of "Explain this Motherfuckers." I lolled.
(porkylips looks better as the sun goes down., Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:43, Reply)

Has anyone countered him with
A t-shirt with a picture of a brain on it, saying "explain this, motherfucker"?
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:56, Reply)

Hahaha
Excellent work
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 11:00, Reply)

That would be pointless.
I said he's a death metaller. His counter argument consists of one word. "Pandas". As far as he is concerned that's it. This also makes me laugh but mainly at his simplicity.
(porkylips looks better as the sun goes down., Tue 15 Feb 2011, 12:32, Reply)