Which country (other than the one in which you currently reside) would you be prepared to live in?
Why? Or if the answer is 'nowhere else', why is that?

(yes, I'm considering doing a runner)
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 13:52, 122 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

Nearly every country to tell you the truth
I'd consider them all, probably not belgium or eastern europe though.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 13:53, Reply)

Romania is the most depressing place I have ever been to.
And I've been to the north.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 13:55, Reply)

Oi!

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 13:57, Reply)

Sorry Sports, I forgot you are 'of Romany stock'
(you horse-stealing vulgar pikey cunt).
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 13:58, Reply)

ZOMG
so whilst i was wandering around sainsburys debating whether pesto topped houmous was worth a Q of 2000 people, i saw the headline that the gypsies are suing channel 4 for £10M. for what, exactly?? whose opinion of them could have been any lower?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:00, Reply)

*insert evil daily mail link here*
Quote: ‘And I’ve heard people in our local cemetery saying they don’t want gypsies buried next to them.

Even the dead have an opinion nowadays
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:05, Reply)

I thought the pikey wideboys never discussed money.

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:07, Reply)

Would that be your legal defence against the claim
Everyone hates you anyway.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:07, Reply)

that principal tenet may be buried somewhere
amongst all the legalese, yes.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:12, Reply)

The thing about the show, is that it has turned normal people into actual racists, I've heard the following statements.
Even what you just said, "gypsies are suing channel 4 for £10M. for what, exactly?? whose opinion of them could have been any lower?", is quite racist. If you replaced the word "gypsy" with "blacks", then that wouldn't be acceptable at all. I've heard the sort of statements like "It's not all of them, just the ones I've dealt with.", which reminds me of how people talked about the black or the jews or even the muslims in the last 50 years.

*Copy'n'paste of something I sent to a friend*

"I know it's not all black people, and some black people are my best friends, but I've had a few dealings with black people in the past. The ones from the Carabien are mostly OK, but the ones from Africa that I've delt with give the rest a bad name, I ordered a Zinger Tower Burger from one of them, but they didn't put any Zinger sauce in. It's not representative of all of them, and I try not to let it tarnish my opinion of blacks, it's just that this was a bad dealing"

That would be greatly thought of as a "I'm not racist but...", but people think it's OK to say that about the gypsies. If they did a show on the hassidic jews and their weird way of doing things, then it would get the same reaction. If they done a show on extremest Muslim cutlure and called it a show about muslims, it would get a really bad reaction too.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:11, Reply)

i haven't watched the show, or not more than about 2 mins of it the other week
my opinion of travellers is purely formed on the basis of the work i do against them - the damage that some of them do to my clients' properties is pretty horrendous.

other than that, i was really hoping someone would just talk about the show so i know what i have missed...
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:18, Reply)

You missed children dressing up like prostitutes

( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:21, Reply)

and this is worth £10,000,000 on top of what they have doubtless already been paid for the show?
christ, i'd dress my dad's budgie up as a prostitute for that.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:23, Reply)

The telegraph has reported they've just asked for a right to reply.
Nothing about sueing them.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:25, Reply)

it was in the daily mail. it must be true.
look.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1358206/Travellers-plan-sue-nightmare-My-Big-Fat-Gypsy-Wedding.html
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:28, Reply)

"May be"
"reportedly"
"said to be"
unnamed source from an unnamed group
Only direct quote describes the impact of the show, doesn't say that he's sueing.
top journalism.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:32, Reply)

haha some of the comments are sheer genius. look at this tool:
Yes, you are embarrassing. Yes, you chose to go on TV and yes, you don't pay much tax on what you "find" and earn for cash.
- Abu Hamster, Hook, 18/2/2011 9:43


they will sue. they'll find a lawyer who'll do it on a CFA (no-win, no-fee) or similar, so there's no reason for them not to.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:34, Reply)

Everything you just said, while true, is made redundant by
"Daily Mail".
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:35, Reply)

haha meanwhile at the other end of the scale, the guardian says:
Bridget Rooney, 16, and husband Patrick, 18, with their parents. They got engaged on her 16th birthday and married in Lincoln last March. In many ways they were very grown up for their age, but when asked if they were planning to have children, Bridget almost collapsed with embarrassment. Although they were very young, I got the feeling they would have a long and happy marriage.

ffs guardian, there's being leftie, and there's being wholly unrealistic!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:37, Reply)

God, if was anymore left
It'd be written on ethically sourced tofu by the naturally rehoused (in negative carbon footprint buildings) indigenous population of some war torn third world country.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:41, Reply)

well quite
there's not wanting to discriminate against anyone for being a gypsy, and then there's saying that a 16 and an 18 year old are going to have a long and happy marriage in a culture where the guardian itself did a report last year and reported that 60-80% of the women were victims of domestic abuse...

maybe these 2 will have a long and happy marriage. maybe he will treat her like a slave and kick the shit out her whilst cheating on her and making her have 137 kids. nobody knows. but we do know that the journalist cannot honestly believe that two kids like that are more likely to be happy than not, statistically speaking.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:43, Reply)

That;s what made me have to turn that program off
Some of it was tantamount to child porn.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:24, Reply)

God how I miss them.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:25, Reply)

The key phrase here is "some of them".

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:23, Reply)

it's a fairly safe bet that the ones who are suing
are amongst the "some" though, eh.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:28, Reply)

The key phrase here is
'bike-stealing tinkers'
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:31, Reply)

It's a real catch-22, people are relating the entire group of "gypsy"s with those who do those kinds of things, in the same way people mix up jews with israelis.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:23, Reply)

The problem is
unlike other races/creeds they're a fairly homogenous group with only two major divisions. Thus culturally they're actually all quite similar and you can see behaviour-mirroring in the other encampments of gypsies in different countries (Ireland for example)
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:29, Reply)

the article says something about how it has ruined their lifestyle
it is their lifestyle that i am curious about. the ones i deal with drive around in packs squatting on other people's land and nicking stuff. how can this be ruined, was my question.

i don't know anything about the others, as i didn't watch the show...
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:31, Reply)

That was pretty much the show
bar the nicking stuff. What I found most repulsive was the way they whip girls out of school at twelve or thirteen so they can become unpaid slaves, until desperate to escape they marry at sixteen.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:33, Reply)

ohhh this is ringing drunken bells from the pub the other night now
don't the women have to give up everything to spend their lives cleaning the caravans? urrrrrrgh.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:35, Reply)

how fucking clean can a caravan get?

( Lisette von Falcon, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:50, Reply)

...and half of London would get blown up.

Err...
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:22, Reply)

it is true that religious extremists would go waaaaaaay too far
look at all the fuss over a bloody cartoon in the newspaper...
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:23, Reply)

All extremests are bad, doesn't matter if it's religion, your city or your football team.
They're all fucked up.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:25, Reply)

Sadly we do not have football nutters who are willing to strap dynamite to their chest
And take out the opposite stands at the match.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:26, Reply)

at the moment the tiny minority of muslims who are extreme
are far and away the most dangerous of any extremists because of this. they are actually out to kill mass numbers of people.

some other nutters will come along and take their place as the most dangerous at some point in the future, i'm sure of that.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:30, Reply)

The Soviet Union came up with a solution to this
When they invaded Afghanistan, so I'm told, they encountered problems with suicide bombings, as one might expect. After a few horrific incidents, they hit upon the grim idea of gathering up the remains of the bombers and burying them, facing away from Mecca and covered in pork. The bombings ceased shortly after this.
(LongJohnBaldry, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:50, Reply)

And that meant they won the war!

(PsychoChomp, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:52, Reply)

For ten million Swipe.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:13, Reply)

Only donkeys up here sir
I have nicked them though
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:06, Reply)

I'm not sure I'd be prepared to live in any other country, I find it hard to adjust to the people across the county line alone.
But if I could pick, I think we all know where I'd go.
( Lisette von Falcon, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 13:55, Reply)

Pakistan is not as great as you think it is, I'm telling you.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 13:56, Reply)

I'd consider Kashmir, truthfully.

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:02, Reply)

based on my lunch, mexico
sainsburys was too long to Q for even pesto-topped houmous, so i ended up with a giant burrito stuffed with: roasted vegetables, haloumi, jalapenos, black beans, mexican rice, sour cream, lettuce...

i could happily move to mexico on the strength of this overwhelming evidence. this and tequila.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 13:55, Reply)

Quite a few
America, Australia, Canada, Thailand, maybe even Spain or Southern France. For the most part, life seems more laid back in those countries, and America's chosen because it's such a varied country, they mostly speak the same language, and the women are easy (according to Texts From Last Night).
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 13:56, Reply)

I fucking love American women.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 13:57, Reply)

I can't Guess Who you are.

(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 13:58, Reply)

Lenny Kravitz?

( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:00, Reply)

Eh?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:02, Reply)

I get it. You get it. But does anyone else?
No they do not.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:00, Reply)

Have you got a copy of 'Live At The Paramount' ?
It is the one that Lester Bangs bangs on about in 'Psychotic....'? If no let me know as it is fucking amazing.
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:05, Reply)

I do not
*gets excited*
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:07, Reply)

Edit
Oops! - nothing to see here - move along.
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:13, Reply)

Robert Plant?

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:21, Reply)

Mike Flowers?

(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:22, Reply)

Jasper Carrott
*doesn't know what you're all on about*
(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:40, Reply)

Nicholas Parsnips

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:44, Reply)

Tina Turnip

(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:46, Reply)

Cubby Broccoli

(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Fri 18 Feb 2011, 15:02, Reply)

Prefab Sprout
/almost
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 15:05, Reply)

Stock, Aitken and Watercress

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 15:06, Reply)

Bruce Springonion

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 15:06, Reply)

Pea Diddy

(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Fri 18 Feb 2011, 15:19, Reply)

I must say
"Tina Turnip" is still got me giggling.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 15:36, Reply)

slags, the lot of them

( Lisette von Falcon, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 13:59, Reply)

The female students of William & Mary in Williamsburg are a nice looking bunch
and 'refreshingly forward' towards the tall, handsome and well-spoken English visitor, apparently.

*cough*
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:04, Reply)

*clears throat*
I imagine they are...
( Lisette von Falcon, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:13, Reply)

who was texting you last night then?
spill spill spill!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 13:59, Reply)

facepalm

( Lisette von Falcon, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:00, Reply)

it's funny because...
... oh no wait, it just wasn't funny.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:01, Reply)

You know that's a website right?

( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:01, Reply)

er, yes
yes i did. wasn't it totally obvious?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:04, Reply)

Only Tourettes texted me last night
www.textsfromlastnight.com/
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:02, Reply)

so you say
i'm watching you. with narrowed rapey eyes.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:04, Reply)

I do have a nice set of bushes outside my flat
I'll pop a pillow and some vodka in there tonight for you.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:05, Reply)

i don't do bushes
hollywood waxing only
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:19, Reply)

They're not ideal in a hide and seek kind of scenario though, are they?

(berk, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:26, Reply)

TGB's is.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:27, Reply)

I've heard your 'George W' looks like Billy Gibbons.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:26, Reply)

Gibbons Connolly
(Zoz prayed for twink on, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:31, Reply)

you both suck

( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:44, Reply)

They have to earn a living somehow

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:50, Reply)

Costa Rica.
Great weather, nice relaxed people, politically stable (by Central American standards), great value property, and top shelf narcotics at Poundland prices.
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:01, Reply)

*writes this down*

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:05, Reply)

And the women look like Bianca Jagger.

(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:10, Reply)

I'm happy where I am.
But I would like to move somewhere more rural.

I'm a great believer in better the devil you know.
( girlinthehole, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:03, Reply)

I preferred 'Can't Get You Outta My Head' but there you go.

(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:07, Reply)

Kylie's never wrong.

( girlinthehole, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:08, Reply)

I absolutely loved Todmorden, thought it was a beautiful place

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:29, Reply)

I would be prepared to live in Germany or Sweden
But I like this place so much it would take a lot to make me leave.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:03, Reply)

France
The food, the scenery, the absurdly hot women. Certainly throws urban Britain into stark relief. Also America - the people are incredibly friendly and make me feel thin - and Vietnam, as long as I could live in the (ridiculously) posh part of Ho Chi Minh City.

Not Morocco though. Stinks of horse piss.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:06, Reply)

Essaouria is one of the loveliest places I've ever been.
If it was good enough for Hendrix it's good enough for me.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:12, Reply)

hot hairy
( Peej, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:21, Reply)

North Korea
I reckon it'll be a right laugh.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:10, Reply)

I hear they're mad for the puns.

( girlinthehole, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:11, Reply)

I've often thought I'd suit a Mediterranean climate better
So I would seriously consider parts of France, Italy or Spain. Portugal's alright but now has too great a density of British people to make it worth the move. Anywhere which is, on average, a good few degrees warmer than here and encourages me to drink wine at lunchtime ticks quite a few boxes for me.

Probably not the best places to which to do a runner, however. Being EU members, and quite close to Blighty, and all that.
(LongJohnBaldry, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:14, Reply)

This
Southern Spain was amazing when I went, I would love to live there as long as it wasn't too remote. Having a government-recommended nap in the afternoons is a great idea.
(berk, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:23, Reply)

This would be perfect
My fucked-up body clock insists on waking me up early, and I'm usually dozing off by early-to-mid-afternoon. Just like now in fact. This wouldn't be a problem if I had a good bottle of Rioja and a hammock in my office.
(LongJohnBaldry, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:39, Reply)

Canada
It's beautiful, the people talk all funny and they have pictures of beavers on their money.
( wanderlust, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:14, Reply)

It would probably brighten my general mood
if I could snigger at a cheap double entendre every time I paid for something.
(LongJohnBaldry, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:15, Reply)

*looks whistfully into the distance*
*sniggers* heheheh... "beaver"...
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:16, Reply)

backwards people

( Lisette von Falcon, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:16, Reply)

true, but also hilarious.
and generally very kind.
( wanderlust, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:20, Reply)

come heeeeeeeeeeere
we're nice tooooo
drink the kooool aiiiid
( Lisette von Falcon, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:27, Reply)

Hahaha!
You are Jim Jones AICMFP
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:45, Reply)

Japan
Because I fucking loved it both times I went there. No matter where I went the people and the atmosphere was awesome.
( Peej, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:17, Reply)

And the ladies put squids in their hoo-ha's...
...which is even more awesome.
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:26, Reply)

Any westen multicultrial city where the main language is english. But prefrably a city near the water, like New York.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:17, Reply)

hmmmmm
aren't all cities built near a major river/lake?

my geography sucks.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:20, Reply)

Geography and History are probably my biggest gaps in knowledge, traditionally cities were built near waterways for trade.
I'm thinking of places like the bits of the US that aren't near the sea.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:28, Reply)

Canada
Though truthfully I'd live anywhere, I could foresee myself having massive language difficulties since I'm retarded in the sense of any ability with learning languages, so I'd rather primarily English speaking
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:23, Reply)

Ruling out Newcastle then?

(LongJohnBaldry, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:36, Reply)

*glares*
(even though he is from Sunderland)
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:44, Reply)

*fails to see sportscow's glare through the fog on the Tyne*

(LongJohnBaldry, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:45, Reply)

*Lols heartily*

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:51, Reply)

Its all mine, all mine
wait... fuck
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:51, Reply)

Hey Monty hey,
I hear Schteve has a half-brother living in Amsterdam, he could probably put you up for a bit. And given that Schtavrosch is half Greek I don't imagine you'll have any trouble coming to an arrangement over the rent.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:45, Reply)

Schtavrosch
might just be the best word EVER.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:51, Reply)

Schuperb newsch

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:52, Reply)

I used to think America, hands down, but these days...
www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/fngfo/why_i_stopped_travelling_to_the_us_and_i_largely
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 14:56, Reply)

Singapore
I'd live there again like a shot - lovely place, friendly people and insanely hot women.
(Captain Placid 24/7 ball gags, brownie mix and clown porn, Fri 18 Feb 2011, 16:00, Reply)