I'm currently for Alternate Voting because the last arguement I saw was for it.
Are you for or against it? I really donno, don't think it would make much of a real diferance, it'll be Cons or Labs in power anyway. I think when I go to tick the boxes, my vote will go to whoever the last person to explain it to me says.

What's your view on it?
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:18, 135 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

It seems we are viewless.

( thealternativefact, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:25, Reply)

My view is that it is extraordinarily dull and almost completely irrelevant.
The only party I could vote for with a clear conscience was disbanded under rather trying circumstances in the mid-1940s.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:25, Reply)

We are about to drink booze.

( thealternativefact, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:26, Reply)

I'm not allowed any today.
When I'm seeing my child I'm not allowed even a single beer.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:27, Reply)

Something good will happen one day, Monters.

( thealternativefact, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:28, Reply)

Maybe this Sunday when I have my 'meeting'*

Maybe not.


*nosey house inspection by someone I swore I'd never let in my house again
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:29, Reply)

Don't lose heart. It's worth the battle.

( thealternativefact, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:30, Reply)

That's the one thing I am certain of.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:30, Reply)

She'll leave a little bag of drugs and then "find" it. Thus declaring you unfit.
Call her bluff by leaving loads of drugs around.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:31, Reply)

around up your nose.
( thealternativefact, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:31, Reply)

My house is spotless in anticipation.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:33, Reply)

Where?

(Bazongaloid, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:27, Reply)

There, on the stair.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:28, Reply)

With that mouse?

(Bazongaloid, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:29, Reply)

Is that a mouse?

( thealternativefact, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:29, Reply)

It seems to be wearing some kind of tradtional Dutch footwear!

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:30, Reply)

WTF is he doing?

( thealternativefact, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:30, Reply)

Probably smoking drugs and watching porn
like all dutch people.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:31, Reply)

The likes me and you aren't invited.
I don't know what we did that was so wrong, I don't know what our people did that was so wrong, I don't know what the innocent children of the future yet to be born in a world gone wrong has done wrong.... but never the less, we ain't invited.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:36, Reply)

Unless it's a bus ride away from Brixton station, in which case I know exactly why I'm not invited.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:37, Reply)

She be getting her freak on and doing the nasty.

(Bazongaloid, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:39, Reply)

Because you refuse to demean yourself by getting on a bus?

(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:40, Reply)

It's not the bus I object too, I got on one today, use them most weeks.
But lol, yeah', that's it. I've only been to Brixton once, I was 13 and going on a failed telly show which was a technology quiz thing. I won 10 PC Video games and it took them 6 months deliver FF7, the only game that arrived.... I've been shit-scared of brixton ever since.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:46, Reply)

Where I got the impression that I can't be stabbed on the tube but am guarntied to get stabbed on a night/brixton/wood-green bus.... I have no idea.
But please god don't pop that bobble that I could still be stabbed on the tube or I'll never leave N14.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:50, Reply)

I reckon we need to bring back the MRLP, they bought humour which in itself brings dignaty to the whole thing.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:33, Reply)

Screaming Lord Sutch killed himself, sadly.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:38, Reply)

I donno what differance that makes, Cromwell's dead too*.
Although his Cat is surely less eligent in writtings.

Also, I always stop myself writting 'such' as 'Sutch', because that is how I say it.

* Oldest politition I can think of.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:42, Reply)

I was just remarking that he'd topped himself. Very sad.
He was a real pioneer in rock'n'roll as well - Alice Cooper nicked his stage act wholesale (he freely admits this), coffins and horror makeup etc - and his drummer Carlo Little was a major influence on (and at one point tutor of) Keith Moon of The 'Oo.

Bartleby saw him live in Wembley in 1973.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:45, Reply)

I saw Sutch & Co at the Station Tavern back in the early Nineties.
His guitarist, Little Lenny, was only fractionally taller than the Strat he (Lenny) was playing ...
(BrianHequator was stretching owls, on, or around, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:48, Reply)

Haha
The problem with his music is that it was shit. He really wasn't very good was he?
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:52, Reply)

Agreed - I think Sutch and Lenny were sitting in with some other band's rhythm section.
I can remember the band's usual lead chap (think it was Mo'Indigo if memory serves, it was a long time ago) sitting there looking a little bit shellshocked as the Loonies rampaged around in a blues style ... it was funny to watch though!
(BrianHequator was stretching owls, on, or around, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:57, Reply)

I'm voting for it purely because the anti campaign is retarded.

(PsychoChomp, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:28, Reply)

It's a good enough reason for me.

(Bazongaloid, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:31, Reply)

I was watching a female boxer and male hurdler debating it on C4 news last night with John Snow reff'ing it.
I gather the anti arguement is
- One Person One Vote
- £250m to impliment
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:34, Reply)

And both of those points are wrong.
Everyone gets the same number of votes under AV, and it won't cost £250 million.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:36, Reply)

Also it's quite easy to spot the motivation
Parties who are anti: think they'll do worse under the system
Parties who are pro: think they'll do better under the system

The rest is bollocks.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:39, Reply)

Innit.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:48, Reply)

How much will it cost? Give me the top and bottom estimate (respected estimate, not Monty's opinion based on napkin maths in the pub).
I guess the One Vote One Person thing is wrong, I mean, the point of their arguement there... 'cus it's still everyone getting the same. It's like instead of everyone getting a matleeser to give to the girl they like, they get a packet and can hedge their bets.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:40, Reply)

if onyl all politics could be
explained with maltesers and girls
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:43, Reply)

You'd totally get at _least_ 35% of them, and given that I'd hedge my bets between at least one that has a good chance, one that I've got no chance and one that I might have a chance with but looks doubtful...
... so that's quite a compliment.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:48, Reply)

No one knows, plus it doesn't matter
democracy is expensive but some things are worth paying for.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:44, Reply)

Like prostitutes. The cheap ones are a false economy, I've found.

My mate Yeti was once offered a blowjob off a crack whore in Shoreditch... for £6.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:47, Reply)

He claims to have turned her down.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:50, Reply)

I've never worked out why men get paid more to be in porn than women.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:56, Reply)

Do they really?
Mind you, it's probably because it's a bit more specialised then for teh women. Anyone can get their vadge pounded, but only some men have "what it takes"
(Bazongaloid, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:05, Reply)

A friend of mine was telling me he was offered one by a crack whore in Brixton for a similar price
Apparently she was quite persistent, until he explained to her that he'd only just moved into the area, didn't even have £6 on him and was looking to get something to eat with the £2.75 he had left and nothing personal, love, but he wasn't interested.

Her reply?
"I'll give you one for £2.75."
(LongJohnBaldry, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:56, Reply)

"But love, I'm hungry, leave me a quid for chips and you got a deal".
"Awww MAN ! What do you mean Chips are £1.10 ? "
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:02, Reply)

It will cost the same as any other election
you have to either pay people to count the votes, or you invest in electronic vote counting machines. But you will need the same whichever system you use.

The main point is that cost should not be a factor when considering the most democratic method of electing politicians.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:44, Reply)

Can't we rent the machines from other countries that have electronic voting? I mean, it's not like they're using them at the time.
Yeh', I agree. Like for example, I'm supposed to get a double-dose of some stuff called Inflixnab/Remicade, been waiting for it for 3 months now, and because of finances, they haven't said yes or no yet. But I can only have the stuff every 2 months, and if I don't get my next dose next week, I risk becoming imume and the stuff not working at all ever again. I was waiting 'till they tell me yes/no, but if I wait longer than next week then the risk is so high, that we're just going to go with a normal dose and next time (in 2 months) I'll hopefully have a dessision.

But yeah', money shouldn't affect these things.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:54, Reply)

It's more like everyone gets a malteser to give to the girl they like,
but if she doesn't put out they can take it back and give it to the next one down the list, until either they finally get one who will put out or the girls get too ugly for them to bother.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:49, Reply)

How can anyone be against that?

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:55, Reply)

I NO RITE

(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:57, Reply)

I make it £8.57

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:51, Reply)

'John Snow' eh?


*orders pizza, not sure of toppings*
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:38, Reply)

That was at Fire and Stone you big silly.

(Bazongaloid, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:39, Reply)

God how embarrassing.

*deletes account*
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:46, Reply)

I agree with it
but mostly WOOO holidaze!
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:38, Reply)

also - sushi in a couple of hours!

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:40, Reply)

Me and disasterprone are off to the footy soon
It's going to be fucking awesome.

AV - yes.

Football!
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:40, Reply)

Bummer

(Bazongaloid, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:45, Reply)

Mug him for his Sevradol please.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:47, Reply)

No, he's done me a massive favour as regards this game
Next week maybe
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:49, Reply)

Hello,
Waiting the misses so wondered if there were any gay sport playing tools who want to make friends?
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 16:58, Reply)

I think all parties should send their supporters to demonstrate in london
The one with the supporters left Ali e after 12 hours wins, it could be televised and hosted by Dermot O'Leary
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:07, Reply)

I think we should touch each others penis'

(Bazongaloid, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:09, Reply)

Touch with hands or touch actual penises as I'm not sure I'm ready for that

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:13, Reply)

Ali e?

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:12, Reply)

Alive, stoopid phone text

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:14, Reply)

Next thing you know you're going to start blaming the phone
for your spastic needy posts and your 'ha ha ha yeah great one PsycoChalmp' comments, you fathanded screaming retard.
( Frisbee TeaBoy, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:19, Reply)

It's time to go home Adam and forget all about the nasty internet

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:20, Reply)

He can't, he's feeling slightly lightheaded and his hands a shaking. HE NEEDS ONLINE VENGEANCE!

(Bazongaloid, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:23, Reply)

His vaunted internet foe Nakedape has besmirched his beloved frisbee
HE WILL HAVE THE LAST LAUGH
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:26, Reply)

even if it takes the prick all night

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:26, Reply)

www.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post1170747
(Bazongaloid, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:30, Reply)

Not wishing to be unkind to either party but he really is a frisbee version of Piston Broke

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:32, Reply)

Even Piston didn't used to get this upset.

(Bazongaloid, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:33, Reply)

Now you've taken it too far Rory too fucking far
They'll be a bloody frisbee wedged into youletterbox f tomorrow, mark my words
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:33, Reply)

So my signature has come true, oh cruel fate

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:36, Reply)

I'm not allowed to reply to this is case I catch GAY

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:32, Reply)

Too Late! I've just infected you.

(Bazongaloid, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:33, Reply)

Dammit!!
Well at least darth will be pleased
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:34, Reply)

I don't even know what you look like sweetheart
I have some standards you know
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:36, Reply)

VENGENCE!
I shall retire from the field of battle as I have clearly lost to your superior wit and frisbee skills, I feel utterly chastised.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:31, Reply)

One of the predecessors of Ali G
And we do not speak of Ali F.
(LongJohnBaldry, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:17, Reply)

Then I am next

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:18, Reply)

That was the wrong thing to say

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:27, Reply)

?

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:29, Reply)

Check your FB

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:29, Reply)

oh rly?
you really hadn't worked that out already?
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:31, Reply)

Nah
Knowledge and intelligence are not the same thing and in my case they are mutually exclusive. Plus I hadn't really thought about it up til now
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:34, Reply)

If we don't spk, have a g8 wknd m8

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:37, Reply)

I don't know the text-speak for "cheers"
And I'm scared to truncate "you too" in case I get asked to LTI
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:38, Reply)

You have a gate weekend too.

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:44, Reply)

He's going to leave them all open
to let cows out.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:45, Reply)

MOO! MOO MOO MOO MOO!

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:47, Reply)

u noes wot i meen

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:56, Reply)

Yippee-ya-yo.

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:58, Reply)

I'm going to assume Rory was calling me a gay in an incredibly subtle way
Or not
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:46, Reply)

It's the only 10/10 so far

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:51, Reply)

I'm against it.
If Goths or any other alternative/minority group want to vote then they should just conform like the rest of us.

And yes, this includes larpers.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:32, Reply)

I'm a very conventional
..larper
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:33, Reply)

Evening Captain.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:34, Reply)

evening fucker
how's life?
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:35, Reply)

Sweet!
It really is. Because I've got some white mice and some shrimps and bananas.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:36, Reply)

oh, sweeties?
as I started reading that I thought you'd got yourself a pet
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:37, Reply)

Yeah sweeties.
I happened to be passing some traditional sweetshop and ventured in with view to getting some cola cubes.

But the nice lady in the shop said that aren't as nice as they were as they don't have a chewy centre anymore. So I went with some old favourites instead.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:40, Reply)

I'm against AV for a number of reasons
most (but not all of which) have nothing to do with the voting system
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:34, Reply)

Is it because whoever gets elected, they will in time, turn out to be an expenses fiddling bender?

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:36, Reply)

What are your reasons?

(Bazongaloid, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:39, Reply)

manifold
but as said not much to do with the actual voting system and more of the meal that is being made of it. Apart from anything else, now really isn't the time to be implementing this reform.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:40, Reply)

When is a good time to have reform then?

(Bazongaloid, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:42, Reply)

can't predict the future sadly
I'm not very up with the news at the moment (in comparison to my usual self) but I feel very strongly that AV is almost being blown out of proportion to cover the other mini crisies that are going on at the moment.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:45, Reply)

The referendum was put in place almost a year ago
so the fact that other shit has happened is no reason to just go, oh it's not important, lets forget it.

I feel the complete opposite, it's not being discussed enough by people with brains, Channel 4 having Chris Akabusi debating with a retarded female boxer was a fucking disgrace.

A major reform to our voting system deserves to have proper debate about the actual system, not sidetracking about who is funding who.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:50, Reply)

Click.
This could be as important as the 1832 reform act. Immediately it led to a grand total of 6% enfranchisement but led to great progress.
( willenium Fist bump for verification, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 18:07, Reply)

Did he pat her on the fanny
and whisper "Awooga" into her ear?
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Fri 15 Apr 2011, 20:36, Reply)

I'm all for AV
Blair got a third term with the backing of less than 30% of the population. The only PM in the 20th century to win the popular vote was Stanley Baldwin with 50.4% of the country behind him.

EDIT: He only got pushed over the 50% mark by a coalition agreement with a minor party
( willenium Fist bump for verification, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:41, Reply)

*arrives late to the debate*
I think it's a very good idea. I also think it is incredibly easy to understand, and I don't get why some people don't understand it.

Maybe I just don't understand it fully.

Evening everyone *waves*
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:51, Reply)

It is exceptionally easy to understand
anyone who says it's too complicated should be shot in the face for being too stupid to remember to breathe at the right time.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:52, Reply)

well that's alright then
Can you be trusted not to get my brother into trouble this weekend? I've heard you're a bad influence on him.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:54, Reply)

Its more efficient than the French system of holding new elections each time a candidate is eliminated.

( willenium Fist bump for verification, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:56, Reply)

I refuse to believe that people can't put things in order of 1-4, or whatever it is.
It _is_ complicated, just not for the voter.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 18:10, Reply)

FOOTBALL!!!!!!

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:59, Reply)

Why are you so excited about the match?

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:59, Reply)

NEMESIS!!!!!!!!
Who are you playing?
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Fri 15 Apr 2011, 17:59, Reply)