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That's boring
So www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13190424 what do you think about gagging orders, do you think you have a legal right to protection from your own slagging around or should the newspapers print everything or something.

Also I like Andrew Marr a lot but I can't believe two people willing to sleep with him could live in the same place at the same time, what are the odds?
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 15:42, 178 replies, latest was 15 years ago)
*there there*

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 15:45, Reply)
I don't care

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 15:45, Reply)
lawyers make a lot of money out of them
so i care.

but i'm not that kind of lawyer. so i don't care THAT much.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 15:46, Reply)
You should care,
the media care, so that means you should care because the media only reflects the will of the people.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 15:47, Reply)
you said a funny thing

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 15:48, Reply)
Don't sound so fucking suprised.

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 15:49, Reply)
you'll be acting charming next

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 15:49, Reply)
Always

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 15:50, Reply)
the media also cares about the sort of jeans jessica simpson wears

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 15:48, Reply)
I care about that to be honest

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 15:48, Reply)
but she doesn't eat buffalo

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 15:52, Reply)
that bitch

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 15:52, Reply)
She finds their wings too cute.

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 15:53, Reply)
Actually yeah she is a bitch
that one video she looked really really hot in and ever since it's been down hill and every time she talks I want to *shush* her.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 15:54, Reply)
I wouldn't say she's a bitch, just probably should only be able to sing, and not actually because she's a fucking idiot

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 15:55, Reply)
+talk

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:01, Reply)
You are referring to the 'Dukes of Hazzard' video, I should imagine.
*coughs*
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:05, Reply)
she's a very good singer, I saw her in concert once
she dedicated a song to u.s. soldiers [which practically every singer in america does] but it was beautiful, saying if I don't see you again just know that I've loved you
*tears*
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:09, Reply)
*watches 'Dukes of Hazzard' video*

*wanks*

*tears*


*bleeds profusely*
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:11, Reply)
gross
she does have a nice body though *jealouses*
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:12, Reply)
Are you pretending you're willie nelson in that video?

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:20, Reply)
Who?
was she the one who was shoplifting?
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 15:59, Reply)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2h72aXVP8o
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:04, Reply)
The fuck.

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:07, Reply)
buffalo one is good too, she's eating with her husband and family and they ask if she wants buffalo wings
she says she doesn't eat buffalo
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:10, Reply)
Was she not similarly flummoxed by the 'Chicken of the Sea' tuna brand?

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:11, Reply)
yeah, that's the video up there
she's the bff's idol
bff has all the CDs, seasons of her show, a ton of her jeans, jewelry, sunglasses and now has her luggage
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:13, Reply)
I thought that said bf for a second

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:17, Reply)
haha
we would get along so great
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:18, Reply)
As in us two
or a hypothetical Simpson loving bf
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:20, Reply)
the second bit there
it was a joke anyhow, i don't think i could handle that
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:23, Reply)
Me either.

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:27, Reply)
I don't want anything to do with "the people"
they sound ghastly
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 15:48, Reply)
Quite so, old boy.

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:05, Reply)
The thing about gagging orders
is that they mostly seem to be for covering up things I don't care about.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 15:46, Reply)
#$%%^)(@*($)@(%*@)_$(*#)@_@(!*%*)()_#_@(

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 15:47, Reply)
ah you seem to have mixed up the current
legality of the media argument with your bondage games
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 15:49, Reply)
I find the constant shit being spouted by spastic commentators
about how "Judges are making the law, not parliament" really fucking annoying.

The government brought in the Human Rights Act which includes two clauses, one about free speech, the other about privacy, between which a balance must be struck. And the only way it can be struck is by the courts BECAUSE THAT IS THE LEGAL SYSTEM WE HAVE ALWAYS FUCKING HAD.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 15:53, Reply)
I met a judge with no thumbs
his name was Justice Fingers
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:22, Reply)
Leave. The. Internet.

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:15, Reply)
"I did not come into journalism to go around gagging journalists," he said.
"Besides, she wasn't into that sort of thing"
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 15:55, Reply)
this annoyed me
'He said: "Am I embarrassed by it? Yes. Am I uneasy about it? Yes."'

what's wrong with saying "I am embarrassed and uneasy about it"

fucking cunts
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 15:57, Reply)
He's interviewing himself.

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 15:59, Reply)
well he shouldn't
the stupid shitbag
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:01, Reply)
They are designed to provide an element of privacy
if you are a public figure and your chicanery has nothing to do with your private persona/position. Or protect innocent loved ones.

The problems with them are the cuntish way the lawyers present them and the fuck head judges that rule on them.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:01, Reply)
The point about this one
is that it was a little hypocritical
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:08, Reply)
Not really.
It's not like he is a Private Eye reporter or Carter Ruck partner.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:09, Reply)
I'm trying to imagine his sexface
It's not good
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:15, Reply)
It's the same as his normal face.

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:16, Reply)
It's better than Sexface's, I'll warrant.

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:16, Reply)
Yeah but he's got a new nose now
Sexface 2.0
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:18, Reply)
technically it's 3.0
what with brayndedd rearranging it the first time
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:20, Reply)
The six million dollar Sexface
He fucks everything in slow motion
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:22, Reply)
Really? When I met him he looked like the downsy one out of Robson & Jerome.

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:21, Reply)
That was his 'Flashman' look
Albeit not quite successful
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:24, Reply)
That was pre nose job
he's got a normal nose now, until some other internet drama unravels on his face.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:36, Reply)
i would've paid to see it the first time
were you there?
why did he headbutt him?
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:39, Reply)
Because sexface had sex with springy sunshine who was pregnant with Brayndeads kid
or something like that.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:42, Reply)
I know that.
I mean, of all the things, why did he headbutt him?
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:45, Reply)
Oh b3ta :((
b3ta.com/talk/4786701
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:47, Reply)
You can just feel the hatred in those posts...

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:55, Reply)
I'm lost....

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:55, Reply)
oh do catch up
sf fucked bd's girlfriend and so bd headbutted sf and smashed his nose at a bash
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:58, Reply)
and they say that we are weird on here...

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:07, Reply)
is that why lampito punched pc?
cause he slept with her girlfriend?
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:16, Reply)
that would mean he'd had sex, kristine

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:32, Reply)
haha I was wondering if it was before or after there for a second
but when I think of anger I think "I'm going to smash this bottle over that cunts head". Not, "I'm going to headbutt that motherfucker".
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:57, Reply)
From my understanding the news broke within 24hours
b3ta.com/talk/4786749

So the thread looks like Sexface is cruelly baiting him without his knowledge
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:57, Reply)
are they still together?

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:00, Reply)
SF and BD?
Err no
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:00, Reply)
HA

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:02, Reply)
one ugly internet user
boffing another ugly internet user. both too dumb to use a condom.

then a third ugly internet user doesn't object to pregnant ugly internet minge.

this is not news. this is criminal stupidity.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:03, Reply)
haha

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:06, Reply)
*applause*

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:11, Reply)
She wasn't knocked up at the time.
I was the only independant witness, I hated it, really fucking hated it.... mostly because I didn't get a chance to have sex with Springy.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:16, Reply)
Also I don't really care about super or hyper injunctions
The net result is less tittle tattle on the front page of News of the World, fucking boo hoo's
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:17, Reply)
interesting
do you, erm, do this often with male celebrities?

what would whigfield say?!
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:19, Reply)
I'm trying to understand why anyone would allow him to insert his penis into them without the exchange of money first

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:26, Reply)
Him? Is Whigfield A MAN??????

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:29, Reply)
it would explain a lot

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:30, Reply)
:(

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:31, Reply)
if they thought they could go to the newspapers afterwards??

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:31, Reply)
I genuinely don't understand it.
If X shags Y (or indeed does anything) and it's a fact, how can anyone be prevented from reporting it?

Not right at all, that, 'protecting your family' or not. How about protecting your family by not jeopardising their happiness for the sake of some sex, EH?

/high horse
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:16, Reply)
Monty
Surely everyone is entitled to a private life?

Even if you are a shit beakering, philandering son of a cunt?
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:17, Reply)
I'm not so sure about this.
My point is that if Andrew Marr really gave a toss about his family he wouldn't have had an affair. He did, so tough shit for being found out, you big-eared 'Martin Clunes after 6 months at Auchwitz' cunt.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:19, Reply)
I agree with this
I'm in an irritable mood though
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:22, Reply)
Ok old boy.
If NOTW were to report on "coke blown up rectums" about you because it is both interesting and funny, I would argue that it is not in the public interest because it has fuck all to do with how you hold yourself out as a person or professionally.

Does the argument go "he shouldn't have blown coke...."
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:23, Reply)
I honestly think I would say 'fair enough,
I admitted in a public forum that I have enjoyed the blowing of cocaine up my 'Paul Gadd' and therefore I cannot really deny it, it's a fact so it's rather my tough shit'. If I was a famous television personality I would say that it was even tougher shit.

I am guessing that Andrew Marr has discussed at length on television and in print the 'private life revelations' about many politicians, much of which isn't really to the detriment of their professional abilities, without saying 'steady on, let's leave them be' - he has therefore 'lived by the sword' so to speak.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:28, Reply)
Difference is
YOU disclosed it. It was your decision.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with what you say but because only public figures use this legislation it looks like the thin edge of the wedge.

When a proper whistleblower with something important to say is stopped from doing so by this legislation it will be because the case law has been developed to that point by whingeing famous wankers.

That said, famous or not, the law is the law. (help me here 'swipe).
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:32, Reply)
if that is your point
then whoever he was shagging has every right to talk about it if she wants.

Perhaps the person doing the blowing up Monty's arse didn't want it known?
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:34, Reply)
Then they should have the right to stop him.
As Andrew Marr's wife does.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:35, Reply)
she didn't take out the injunction though
and I'm not so sure she does have that right.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:36, Reply)
He did.
Perhaps for that reason, we are not privvy to the pleading for the injunction.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:37, Reply)
Hahaha you said 'privy'!!!!!!!

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:39, Reply)
now all I can think of is trying to force some lame joke
regarding pleading, injunctions and the privvy (i.e. lavatory)
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:39, Reply)
Don't get bogged down with this. You're getting a little flushed.

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:57, Reply)
You should log out until you've calmed down.

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:00, Reply)
That isn't actually going to happen though
because, as with the whole MPs expenses revelations, once there is actually a legitamate public interest case, you can't have a super injunction.

BUT, the trouble with the existance of them at all is that people with lots of money (Trafigura) can tie up the case in protracted legal wrangling even when they are always going to lose.

So my argument is that they are not a good thing.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:36, Reply)
Trafigura were outed in the end, as most are.
I don't think they are GOOD. I think one is entitled to privacy where no public interest exists.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:38, Reply)
Yes, you are
and the law already covers that, so if someone blows your privacy with no public interest you can get an injunction, or just take them to the cleaners afterwards.

But the Trafigura case didn't come to light for years, and only after an MP mentioned it in the westminster using his commons priviledge
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:42, Reply)
Because they was a valid injunction in place.
And I don't mean valid, just enforceable.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:44, Reply)
Yes, exactly
they got away with having a super injunction which prevented papers publishing that they have caused a fucking awful spill and the only reason it came out was because an MP got involved. There was clearly a public interest.

This is a good case to demonstrate the dangers of the existence of super injunctions.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:47, Reply)
Judges fault.
Not the legislation or principle.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:52, Reply)
No, I think it's very much the fault of the principle.
The story itself clearly had public interest so while the specifics of the actual fault were being worked out the papers could have been reporting that a spill happened, but that the person whose fault it was had not been determined. There was no need to have a super injunction. The fact that they exist is dangerous as it gives the power to the people who have lots of money, it's got fuck all to do with "general rights to privacy".
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:57, Reply)
I think Judas Priest put it best when they said
'Breaking the law, breaking the law' dressed as San Franciscan homosexual motorcyclists.

(as you can see, I don't really have a sensible argument)
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:36, Reply)
If you were an MP
I'd vote for you.

And want to read about the lurid details of your cocaine fuelled sex life.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:39, Reply)
I've crapped on more rent boys than Mark Oaten's had hot dinners.

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:41, Reply)
That's a lot of crap coated rent boys.
What has a rent boy in every bite?
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:42, Reply)
This is very Topic-al. Ho ho.

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:49, Reply)
each case will turn on its own facts
if a judge doesn't want to find for it, he will find a reason not to...
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:42, Reply)
This phrase covers the entirety of the civil and criminal justice systems.

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:43, Reply)
yup!

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:11, Reply)
he really does look like martin clunes

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:24, Reply)
who picked he wrong grail !1!!

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:27, Reply)
it is not a good look for a man

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:33, Reply)
tell that to Hood-Butter
he who stands at the peak of the metaphorical Everest of cool and awesome.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:35, Reply)
*weeps with laughter*

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:38, Reply)
i don't get this whole hood-butter thing?

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:41, Reply)
There's a link somewhere.

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:42, Reply)
possibly my finest hour

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:44, Reply)
Indeed so.

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:48, Reply)
SHOW ME!

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:15, Reply)
this is a v tricky debate
you're both right.

but then, if you sleep with someone, and they are cheating on their wife and you are not, why should you be gagged because of their indiscretion?
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:20, Reply)
Why is it anyone's business?
If every little (or big) thing about everbody's private life were reportage then we would all be out of work.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:25, Reply)
This is a valid point.

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:29, Reply)
Look pal I'm not sure what you've been up to, but it best not involve kids

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:29, Reply)
Genuine lol from me here.

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:32, Reply)
But they are MY kids.

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:33, Reply)
'Nine tenths of the law', I heard.

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:34, Reply)
if people will pay to read it
then it becomes a business transaction.

you should be aware of that if you ming and you think that young hot girls will sleep with you because they fancy you and not being paid by NOTW to reveal all.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:30, Reply)
NOW you tell me!

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:32, Reply)
Can I just say
I went to a scarecrow festival on Saturday.

Can I? Can I say that - OR WILL SOME FUCKING SCARECROW GET AN INJUNCTION TO GAG ME?

I WILL NOT BE SUPPRESSED!!!
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:52, Reply)
I don't think scarecrows have legal rights.

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:53, Reply)
Well they should, man.
/Bella and Al
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 16:58, Reply)
when i was bored of tidying but wasn't allowed out on monday
i was reading some of her stuff that lamps linked us all to.

holy shit.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:05, Reply)
I haven't bothered. Should I?
Or can I simply imagine what it's like and thus don't need to bother?
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:13, Reply)
it's only worth it if you are very bored
objectively, you can't fault her passionate conviction.

but omg she comes across as a wordy, pretentious, pointless little prick!
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:15, Reply)
May I just say 'bored OF tidying'???????
It's lucky you're in the legal profession because I'M DIVORCING YOU for that grotesque mangling of our beautiful language.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:23, Reply)
i'm no matrimonial lawyer but
i think you have to be married before you can get divorced.

however, you can end our illicit affair with all the raw white hot shagging and all that. if you're bored OF me, that is...
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:26, Reply)
AAAAARGHHHHH.
I really don't like that one. It is my mother's pet hate and I can hear 'different FROM, dear' in her Joyce Grenfell tones whenever I hear or read it. It is better than 'different than', though.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:29, Reply)
i loathe "i was sat" or "i was stood" because of my mother's aversion to it.
"WHO sat you there?" she'd say to each child in her class who committed the heinous crime.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:31, Reply)
OH MY GOD, WHY THE HELL WON'T SHE JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS AND BEING POOR AND ALL THAT !??!?!?!!?

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:13, Reply)
don't forget her clotted dolmio minge, gonz

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:14, Reply)
I donno where I saw this today, could be here, could be /talk, but someone said something like....
OH MY GOD, YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO SHOVE ALKA SELTZA UP THERE !!!!
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:20, Reply)
That's Whigfields frothing Clopper that is

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:23, Reply)
Sounds like the name of a pub quiz team.

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:26, Reply)
There's certainly legs in it

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:33, Reply)
can i have your address?
i need to serve you with this prohibitory injunction on behalf of whigfield...
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:26, Reply)
Rory Towers, The Internet

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:32, Reply)
Good lord, we must be neighbours!
I live in Boyce Towers, The Internet!!!!
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:35, Reply)
somehow
i think you might not be entirely truthful here
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:40, Reply)
That's your sharp legal mind at work.

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:43, Reply)
in translation "caw caw caw caw caw caw caw"
"caw caw, CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW"
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:01, Reply)
Is he a character in 'The Merchant of Venice'?

EDIT you editing SHITBAG.
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:02, Reply)
i wouldnt have understood your joke anyway

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:17, Reply)
Well let's just agree that it was very, very funny indeed.

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:21, Reply)
I think myfriend went to that
either that or she just saw a scarecrow. I should listen more
(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:29, Reply)
It's in Wray, near Lancaster.

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:31, Reply)
then it's quite likely

(, Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:43, Reply)

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