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(, Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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 Morning people!
	Morning people!Its so windy here I think I my treat myself to a bus ride to work rather than cycling. What are you up to this morning? What are your opinions on AV and why? What are you having for lunch? What would you rather be having? Did you get laid this weekend? Did you get drunk?
alt.alt.alt.alt.alt.alt question. Amber! says they might bring the professionals to the big screen and on the same page saw the words Danger Mouse and thought how stupid it would be to make a live action remake of Danger Mouse. Any more stupid ideas for remakes? I promise not to sell the to Hollywoodland.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 7:21, 141 replies, latest was 14 years ago)
 I have been entirely persuaded to vote Yes to AV
	I have been entirely persuaded to vote Yes to AVby the straw men and outright lies from the No to AV campaign. I think we need a change; they can't muster a good argument against it; that's good enough for me.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 7:47, Reply)
 what actually IS AV? I'm assuming it's not arterio-ventricular valves...
	what actually IS AV? I'm assuming it's not arterio-ventricular valves...(, Tue 3 May 2011, 7:54, Reply)
 OH.
	OH.we have that here. I had to number everybody in order of preference.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 7:57, Reply)
 Only the proposal for our system is that you don't have to rank every candidate
	Only the proposal for our system is that you don't have to rank every candidateso there will be less spoiled ballot papers.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 7:59, Reply)
 Well I think that's great.
	Well I think that's great.Means that you have MP's that actually try to get stuff done so they can retain their seats instead of sitting back on their arses just saying their lines every election.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 8:01, Reply)
 No Poppet
	No Poppetit's a terrible idea, it means that extremists get to decide who your MP is, it means the end of one person, on vote, the cornerstone of our democracy, it means that Nick Clegg will break every promise your MP makes, and finally, Australia has a version of the Alternative Vote and they don't like it, so therefore AV is a terrible, terrible idea.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 8:06, Reply)
 No, I'm only saying that because that is the extent of the rather stupid alarmist lies that are being touted by the "No" campaign.
	No, I'm only saying that because that is the extent of the rather stupid alarmist lies that are being touted by the "No" campaign.(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:12, Reply)
 They have also stated that if we change to a new voting system
	They have also stated that if we change to a new voting systemBabies will die, and soldiers will no longer be equipped with body armour.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:19, Reply)
 Australia is one of the countries that has AV.
	Australia is one of the countries that has AV.So tell us whether it works for you or not.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 8:06, Reply)
 I should point out, again, that their version of AV is not the same as the version we would get if we vote yes.
	I should point out, again, that their version of AV is not the same as the version we would get if we vote yes.(, Tue 3 May 2011, 8:08, Reply)
 Sorry teacher.
	Sorry teacher.I would like to point out that I didn't see your first reply until I hit the reply button.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 8:10, Reply)
 well I like what we have.
	well I like what we have.I think it's fairer, because we don't have to worry about "tactics". We just rank them in preference and those preferences are tallied. Everybody gets a say.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:02, Reply)
 Morning children
	Morning childrenI'm back at work after 4 glorious days off at the homestead. I actually don't mind my job but have only been here 5 minutes and am already fed up of hearing people complain about being back here, etc. The tedious anecdotes about weekends are yet to come. Joy.
I'm all in favour of AV and have been for years, and as TLiC says even if I was of no opinion at all, the bullshit fabricated to argue against it would be enough to persuade any right-thinking person to vote for. Sadly I fear the right-thinking people of Britain will be massively outnumbered by the rest of the population come Thursday.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 8:09, Reply)
 Good morning.
	Good morning. This barrage of questions reads like a bipolar person on an 'up' day.
Calm down, PhillipJoseph.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 8:22, Reply)
 No matter what the results of the AV referendum:
	No matter what the results of the AV referendum:a) the civil service that actually runs the country will be the same
b) the population of Britian will be the same
c) the two and a half parties than more than just a few people give a toss about will be the same
d) the tax income and budgets will be the same
IT WILL BE THE SAME.
cf 'wow! A Labour govt has got in!!!! It's going to change here!!!'
also 'The Lib Dems are getting a share of power!! It's going to change here!!!!' et cetera, ad nauseum.
Yawn yawn yawnity yawn.
*scratches bollocks*
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 8:28, Reply)
 This is your reasoning behind not being arsed to vote, presumably
	This is your reasoning behind not being arsed to vote, presumablyBefore Al says it
Morning Monty. Good weekend?
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 8:30, Reply)
 Alright?
	Alright?My back has been fucked for two days. I am in a great deal of pain. But I did have a very pleasant weekend and trust you did too.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 8:32, Reply)
 I did indeed, thank you
	I did indeed, thank youSaw the mighty Reds win 5-1, which I appreciate is of no interest whatsoever to you, and took the better half to see Avenue Q, which probably isn't either but am mentioning anyway because it's fucking funny, and you might like it.
What's up with your back sir? All the X finally catching up with you?
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 8:36, Reply)
 This was the funniest thing I've seen on facebook for a long, long time.
	This was the funniest thing I've seen on facebook for a long, long time.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 8:45, Reply)
 It's your facebook status from Saturday night
	It's your facebook status from Saturday nightbut with your photo anonomised, followed by the comment of your friend who expressed amazement at your love of musical theatre, with their name and photo also airbrushed to preserve privacy.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 8:50, Reply)
 Oh THAT
	Oh THATIn all fairness, that really made me laugh at the time. Ironically, even though it's not his name, everyone knows the poster as "Al"
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 8:52, Reply)
 I've had a bad back on and off for some years.
	I've had a bad back on and off for some years.I really could use a new bed and mattress, however seeing as I cannot afford even a new pillowcase...
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 8:46, Reply)
 I'd like to feel sympathy
	I'd like to feel sympathybut I just can't be bothered to give a shit about you at all.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 8:47, Reply)
 At the risk of stating the bloody obvious
	At the risk of stating the bloody obviousGo and see a fucking chiropractor
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 8:50, Reply)
 He would
	He wouldbut no Chiropractor has ever changed anything and therefore it's not worth the bother of going.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 8:51, Reply)
 I'm seeing an osteopath on Friday
	I'm seeing an osteopath on FridayTell me exactly where it hurts and I'll pretend I'm having the same problem
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 8:54, Reply)
 I'm going to need slightly more detail than that
	I'm going to need slightly more detail than that"What seems to be the problem, sir?"
"Err... not sure really, I'm nearly 40 and I took a fuckload of ecstasy in the 90's... is that bad?"
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:02, Reply)
 Just tell them it hurts - tell them it's your back.
	Just tell them it hurts - tell them it's your back.By the way the old 'ecstasy damages your spine' yarn is unproven, and by now you'd imagine there's be quite a few people in quite a lot of trouble if it were true.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:03, Reply)
 Like the Monty Python "Brain Doctor" sketch
	Like the Monty Python "Brain Doctor" sketchbut with "back" instead of "brain"?
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:04, Reply)
 Well that has completely buggered what could have been a vaguely amusing rejoinder, hasn't it
	Well that has completely buggered what could have been a vaguely amusing rejoinder, hasn't it(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:12, Reply)
 that shit about it causing loss of spinal fluid?
	that shit about it causing loss of spinal fluid?yeah, and it makes your balls drop off, too. Honest.
MDMA is a fuck sight safer than most things. Like anything else, a combinantion of occasional individual user stupidity and massive Daily Mail scare stories spreads fear.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:10, Reply)
 Yeah! I thought I was going to die once after ingesting far too much MDMA.
	Yeah! I thought I was going to die once after ingesting far too much MDMA.But the best thing was I didn't care.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:13, Reply)
 You'd be a fuck sight better going to see an actual trained medical practitioner.
	You'd be a fuck sight better going to see an actual trained medical practitioner.(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:08, Reply)
 Osteopaths are trained
	Osteopaths are trainedand licensed, it's chiropractors that aren't. But both can be perfectly good at helping you.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:11, Reply)
 They are not trained medically.
	They are not trained medically.they are trained in osteopathy, the validity of which there is almost no scientific evidence to back up.
I'm not saying they might not help. I'm saying I'd rather see someone who doesn't believe in some woo theory of body oneness.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:13, Reply)
 That's Chiropractors
	That's Chiropractorsor at least, some Chiropractors, mine believes in getting your spine straight and your muscles working properly, but some believe in body one-ness.
If you have a bad back because of shitty posture and bad working practive, which I would guess is the most likely reason for Monty's pain, then relieving the pain by putting his back right would only be the first step, Monty would have to stop slouching in his chair to actualy fix the problem long term.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:17, Reply)
 No it most certainly is not.
	No it most certainly is not.Osteopaths believe in the validity of, and use, amongst other things, craniosacral therapy. Perhaps you'd care to google that and come back to me, sir?
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:20, Reply)
 I don't really care to be honest
	I don't really care to be honestmy views on osteopathy are akin to Monty's views on anything which might require him to engage his brain.
My main issue is that when I went to see the Doctor about my knee he poked it and sent me for a CAT scan, when the results came back he said there was nothing wrong with me knee and it would get better. After two months I still couldn't straighten it properly. I went to see my Chiropractor and he popped it back into place. A week later I could run on it.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:24, Reply)
 I'd still start with a phsysiotherapist before resorting to a woo merchant, personally
	I'd still start with a phsysiotherapist before resorting to a woo merchant, personallybut I agree, if it works then it works. It just happens to be a major bugbear of mine that use of greek words and some level of regulation somehow conveys medical respectability in some of these areas
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:26, Reply)
 I only went to this guy
	I only went to this guybecause he was recommended by a friend, I wouldn't just pick a one out of the phone book.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:28, Reply)
 Oh, for sure.
	Oh, for sure.I mean, these people are basically extended massage therapists but if the stuff they did didn't work they wouldn't get repeat business. It's people that rely on them that worry me as they've got no medical background so are likely to miss something medically dangerous while they are busy aligning your chakras or whatever
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:30, Reply)
 physiotherapists are good.
	physiotherapists are good.I've finally had someone tell me what was wrong with my hip and I can now do something about it thanks to my physio. She gave me exercises to do which've really helped.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:28, Reply)
 This is what I'd been led to believe.
	This is what I'd been led to believe.Osteo = real medical people
Chiro = hippy cunts
I don't know what to think now...
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:18, Reply)
 Just because osteo is Greek for bone doesn't actually mean they are medically trained.
	Just because osteo is Greek for bone doesn't actually mean they are medically trained.They are regulated, yes, and they have to have degrees in Osteopathy. You can have a degree in homeopathy, too, and that's a greek word as well.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:21, Reply)
 This entirely matches my take on the whole of politics in this country.
	This entirely matches my take on the whole of politics in this country.*firm handshakes*
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 8:35, Reply)
 Anyone who feels otherwise is naive to the point of my feeling somewhat embarrassed for them.
	Anyone who feels otherwise is naive to the point of my feeling somewhat embarrassed for them.*returns firm handshake accompanied by a knowing nod*
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 8:37, Reply)
 I wouldn't go as far as "embarrassed" - perhaps mild pity.
	I wouldn't go as far as "embarrassed" - perhaps mild pity.How's your shit today?
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 8:40, Reply)
 alright you bummosexuals?
	alright you bummosexuals?I am wearing my best suit today, but without a tie. The shirt I'm wearing requires a deep pink tie, but I can't find one the correct shade.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 8:46, Reply)
 If I'd said this everyone would call me a massive gay
	If I'd said this everyone would call me a massive gayI shall extend the hand of sympathy by asking what colour the shirt is
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 8:47, Reply)
 mainly blue.
	mainly blue. With stripes of lime green, white, maroon and deep pink. Paul Smith style, but by Ted Baker. I am wearing Paul Smith cufflinks with it.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 8:51, Reply)
 Tricky
	TrickyI have to agree with your original assessment. The right purple might go with it as long as it's not too close to the maroon.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 8:53, Reply)
 Bugger
	BuggerWhere have you tried so far in your quest for this elusive pink tie?
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:00, Reply)
 I know this is going to sound a bit pikey
	I know this is going to sound a bit pikeyBut I've always found Next's range of ties to be surprisingly good. And no-one can see the label on the back!
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:03, Reply)
 maybe you could try Debenhams too?
	maybe you could try Debenhams too?I got my brother two really nice ties for his 18th from there.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:10, Reply)
 I was just trolling google images to find a picture of the gayest man I could possibly find wearing a pink tie
	I was just trolling google images to find a picture of the gayest man I could possibly find wearing a pink tieand failed, so have this instead.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 8:52, Reply)
 I've had a lovely four days off.
	I've had a lovely four days off.Drank too much, ate too much, got nothing done that I was going to do and met up with some RL friends that I keep forgetting how lovely they are.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:03, Reply)
 Christ alive, that's a few too many things for me to think about properly at this time in the morning!
	Christ alive, that's a few too many things for me to think about properly at this time in the morning!a) Working, catching up with old emails.
b) I support it, because the anti-AV adverts are pathetic
c) Not a clue
d) A roast dinner
e) Does Friday count?
f) Yes, but not very
Alt: They're already doing the stupidest one I could have considered
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:05, Reply)
 They should remake the remake of the Wicker Man
	They should remake the remake of the Wicker Manbut as a snuff film with 'Nic' Cage having his teeth pulled out with rusty pliers and then being forced to eat his own freshly-severed genitals.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:07, Reply)
 Is that the one where his character 'G to the Dizzle' buys a pink tie?
	Is that the one where his character 'G to the Dizzle' buys a pink tie?(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:12, Reply)
 Nope even better than that,
	Nope even better than that, "A Las Vegas magician who can see into the future is pursued by FBI agents seeking to use his abilities to prevent a nuclear terrorist attack."
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:17, Reply)
 The bit at the end, when they shoot a machine gun at him
	The bit at the end, when they shoot a machine gun at himbut he knows each time where the bullets are going to go, so despite apparently "dying" about a million times, he runs through the bullets to the gun and punches the bad guy.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:21, Reply)
 I am really hoping that '13 Assassins' is good.
	I am really hoping that '13 Assassins' is good.I've not looked forward to a film being released in years.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:22, Reply)
 I watched Hero last night.
	I watched Hero last night.Beautiful film but the chinese language is not a beautiful language and spoiled it for me.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:24, Reply)
 Yet
	YetIf it is any good, there'll be a piss-poor remake. Maybe that will star Nic Cage?!
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:28, Reply)
 We got free chocolate wedding cake
	We got free chocolate wedding caketo celebrate the Royal Wedding. Not all is bad about these two getting married, eh? Today should be a good day.
I think AV could be good, but I can't vote for it as I'm not registered in England anymore (I need to sort it out)
Lunch already? Chicken salad. I might buy a lasagna, though.
Of course I did, I'm married. I get laid every day.
I didn't get drunk as I'm trying to be good.
Too many questions, I have no ideas for remakes, sorry.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:11, Reply)
 They're making a new big-screen version of The Sweeney
	They're making a new big-screen version of The Sweeneywith Ray Winstone (obviously) so The Professionals is bound to be next. Then The Bill. Can't wait for that.
If they do Dangermouse it'll probably be a CGI character in a live-action setting. And unless it is phenomenally well-written, it will be awful
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:11, Reply)
 hola chicas!
	hola chicas! I voted against AVP as the first two were rubbish
I have a headache after too much Doom bar in the sun.
I have quiche, a parma ham roll and a salad.
Minge
No
Yes
I'd like to see Saw the musical, starring Sydney Poitier and Max frtom Hollyoaks.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:15, Reply)
 Yeah I really enjoyed it
	Yeah I really enjoyed itMinimal amount of bullshit and lots of violence
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:21, Reply)
 I cannot take Adrian Brody seriously as anything but a second world war Jew
	I cannot take Adrian Brody seriously as anything but a second world war Jewespically in action films
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:21, Reply)
 AvP had near perfect levels of stupidity in it, I feel
	AvP had near perfect levels of stupidity in it, I feelYou knew it was going to be nothing but things either being shot, ripped apart, or blown up, so I think anyone disappointed that it did this is a fool for not expecting it. It's the same with The Expendables.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:24, Reply)
 Oh christ, I agree with you there, that was fucking awful, one of the worst films I've ever seen.
	Oh christ, I agree with you there, that was fucking awful, one of the worst films I've ever seen.(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:28, Reply)
 The difference is that The Expendables had nothing to live up to
	The difference is that The Expendables had nothing to live up toAlien, Aliens and to a lesser extent Predator are superb films, and AvP was a reminder of how far the franchise has fallen
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:27, Reply)
 Hello mate, long time
	Hello mate, long timeEaster was triffic cheers. This Saturday just gone was bloody epic, took the missus to see Forest and they won 5-1. They always do well when she goes. It's like they're trying to impress her.
How've you been?
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:35, Reply)
 The second one was so fucking eye-wrenchingly horrendous that I almost shat myself out of pure despair.
	The second one was so fucking eye-wrenchingly horrendous that I almost shat myself out of pure despair.(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:31, Reply)
 What a very specific thing to agree to
	What a very specific thing to agree toI'm never going to the cinema with you two
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 9:38, Reply)
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