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(I helped save b3ta! rob, Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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Enough of that shit
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-20944339

Lolzors.

Ok there was a vote today about capping working age benefits at 1% for three years. How would you have voted?
(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:14, 182 replies, latest was 12 years ago)
lolapalooza
for 0%
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:15, Reply)
That's not how voting on bills works you idiot.
For or against.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:16, Reply)
For, obvs

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:17, Reply)
Well done you've just cut your childs primary school teachers wage by 8% after tax.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:26, Reply)
I'll send my kids to private school, so i couldn't give a shit

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:31, Reply)
really? you must be a lot better paid than I assumed.

(I helped save b3ta! the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:47, Reply)
I'd have voted for anyone who takes a firm stance on the Loksey issue.

(I helped save b3ta! Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:16, Reply)
FOR OR AGAINST

(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:16, Reply)
I SUPPOSE ABSTAIN IS ALSO AN OPTION

(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:17, Reply)
ABSTAIN IT IS, THEN.

(I helped save b3ta! Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:17, Reply)
You've never abstained in your life

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:20, Reply)
I wondered why your child looked nothing like you.

(I helped save b3ta! Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:26, Reply)
I couldn't make sense of IDS on the radio this morning.
We don't want to hurt old people as they have no other choices about their income.
We want to encourage a culture of saving, so that in the future we won't be spending so much on pensions.
We going to hurt the working poor instead.
(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:20, Reply)
well old folk can't work to boost their income in anyway
the working poor can do a few more shift "down t' mine" to make ends meet.

simple
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:23, Reply)
It worries me that most of the cabinet probably believe this.

(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:27, Reply)
It worries me that this is a shit thread.

(I helped save b3ta! Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:28, Reply)
This is always a worry.

(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:29, Reply)
I can't wait for NA to be sacked.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:28, Reply)
:(

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:30, Reply)
LOL

(I helped save b3ta! Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:32, Reply)
I know it would be schadenfreude, but I'd lol.

(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:30, Reply)
we should burn old people, to keep poor people warm

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:28, Reply)
FINALLY some sense in this thread.

(I helped save b3ta! Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:32, Reply)
Don't you fall into both of those categories?

(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:33, Reply)
we'll burn his legs to keep his torso warm

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:34, Reply)
I wouldn't be too smug, you're in the first tranch
or the "kindling" as their known
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:33, Reply)
He's trying to explain something which is pretty horrible as if it's a good thing.
Which is bound to be confused.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:28, Reply)
How does he think people are going to save for the future if he cuts their income?

(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:29, Reply)
He doesn't give a shit about poor peoples pensions. They're not a big problem.
it's the rich peoples pensions that are a problem.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:30, Reply)
I don't give a shit about them either.

(I helped save b3ta! Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:32, Reply)
Anyone who can put £50,000 in a pension scheme a year gets £10,000 added to that.
Which is just about the cost of three skivers on the dole.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:35, Reply)
Actually that's wrong, assuming they are charged higher rate tax they get £20,000 a year.
which is 6 doleys
(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:36, Reply)
And as we all know, it's these 'skivers' who are causing all the problems, right?

(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:37, Reply)
And Asians.

(I helped save b3ta! Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:37, Reply)
Damn their smelly food!

(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:39, Reply)
Cut any of that and you're killing poor old ladies who are living alone.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:38, Reply)
Sounds good to me.

(I helped save b3ta! Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:41, Reply)
this would also help free up housing, thus getting the housing market moving
without having to spend on housebuilding.
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:47, Reply)
one of the best ideas I've seen out of local govenment is from Bradford.
Any house that hasn't been occupied for 2 years is going to be double council taxed from April. Make leaving a house empty costly.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:51, Reply)
seems a little unfiar

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:01, Reply)
How could that be unfair?

(Bazongaloid, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:14, Reply)
Well council taxes are used to pay for local services, so if the house is empty the owner should really pay LESS tax, not more

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:28, Reply)
sounds like jealousy to me

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:37, Reply)
It's not jealousy, it's a massivley top heavy system that will bankrupt the country.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:38, Reply)
And you should all be jelly of my pension, not the other way around.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:41, Reply)
This is all your fault, with your public sector pension.
STOP BANKRUPTING US ALL CHOMPY!
(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:42, Reply)
it was always going to be horrible for someone, the hope is that by encouraging people to save for their retirement
then older peoples entitlements can be cut in the future
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:30, Reply)
The same people then.

(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:31, Reply)
but they'll feel better about themselves, as they'll be standing on their own two feet, not relaying on the system

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:32, Reply)
Explain how?

(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:35, Reply)
instead of shuffling down to the post office to request their pitiful state pension, which is pretty embarrassing
they'll have their own hard earned pitiful pension to rely on.
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:37, Reply)
Where will they have got the money from to fund this?
Given the real terms cut to their current income.
(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:38, Reply)
Extra hours obviously!

(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:39, Reply)
I dunno, more hours, be less thick and get a better job
stop spending money on non essentials. that sort of thing
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:45, Reply)
That's right EVERYONE should get a better job.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:47, Reply)
then the immigants can fill the holes at the bottom
by jeeves we've got it
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:48, Reply)
WHY has no one thought of this before?

(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:48, Reply)
politicians are IDIOTS that's why
vote JESUS
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:51, Reply)
But seriously, it's not my fault these people are thick or lazy or didn't work at school
why should I pay for their failures in life?
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:48, Reply)
It really is that simple, eh?

(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:52, Reply)
mostly.
Look, you can't help everyone all of the time. that's the problem with you people and politicians they can't make the difficult decisions.

Often it's cheaper to let a derelict house fall down, and rebuild, than it is to prop up the derelict house
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:54, Reply)
Social responsibility is why.

(I helped save b3ta! Kroney, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:03, Reply)
yeah, but there have to be limits
you know, like when they design a bus and they have to only design the seats to fit people under 6'3". it'd be nice to be able to design seats for everyone to sit on, but it's just not feasible.
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:04, Reply)
I think he has just said "Let them die", hasn't he?
Social responsibility seems to be somewhat lacking here.
(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:05, Reply)
*puts finger on nose, points*
I'm here to make the difficult decisions for you
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:34, Reply)
I'd have voted however my party told me to vote

(I helped save b3ta! Peej, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:29, Reply)
pussy whipped

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:30, Reply)
don't you mean party whip?

(I helped save b3ta! the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:40, Reply)
Nakers voted for a walnut whip.

(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:41, Reply)
mouth wrong

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:45, Reply)
Oh, my
remarkable how they suddenly "developed" back and neck pain.

Presumably, whilst talking after the accident, when they went "oooh we should try and scam some fucking money out of this"
(I helped save b3ta! the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:39, Reply)
"Benefits are going up more than wages so we'll cut benefits"
or, you know, you could increase wages.

Also found this:

www.nytimes.com/2013/01/08/arts/music/sony-issues-bob-dylan-recordings-to-keep-european-copyright.html?hp&pagewanted=all&_r=0

Just to restart the debate on copyright again.
(I helped save b3ta! The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:44, Reply)
My wages go up every year
what's the problem?
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:45, Reply)
It's pretty hard to force the private sector to increase wages, though.
the solution, as always, is a selective tax increase, but apparently that's an entirely invisible solution to this government.
(I helped save b3ta! the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:46, Reply)
they should raise taxes on everyone apart from me
I'm the squeezed middle innit.
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:47, Reply)
You can apparently afford £12K a year to send your kid to private school
so I'm afraid that's not the "squeezed middle" old boy.
(I helped save b3ta! the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:49, Reply)
mater and pater will help with that

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:49, Reply)
which would be different from claiming benefits how?

(I helped save b3ta! the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:52, Reply)
People who claim benefits are thick or lazy or didn't work at school
They failed in life by not being born into the Ape family.
(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:54, Reply)
Now you've got it!

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:00, Reply)
It doesn't cost you lot anything does it?

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:00, Reply)
depends how they got their money.

(I helped save b3ta! the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:02, Reply)
Dad ran his own business for 40 years

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:03, Reply)
probably a hideous tax evader then.
so, yes, it has cost us something.
(I helped save b3ta! the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:07, Reply)
he really wouldn't have been, he's the most cautious and law abiding person I've ever met
drove my mum mad
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:27, Reply)
actually where is the "middle"
what are the household income brackets that define these fuzzy terms?
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:52, Reply)

www.guardian.co.uk/society/datablog/2012/jun/22/household-incomes-compare
(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:53, Reply)
He's not responded because he's realised he's not a middle income person.
Either that or he can't work out the form.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:58, Reply)
I had to work out my household income after tax, AKSHULLY

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:58, Reply)
So where is the middle sector? 33% - 66%?

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:59, Reply)
I assume so, it'll tell you on the top right if you're high middle or low?

(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:02, Reply)
I am comfortable @ 77% if a little warm
I'm aiming for 97% I reckon, but the wife earns fuck all, so she's no help at all
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:06, Reply)
:( 61%
I wish they'd hurry up and make me redundant.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:07, Reply)
yeah but it's pretty stupid as living costs vary across the country

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:10, Reply)
Yeah you're really having a hard time of it compared to me, I'm sorry.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:13, Reply)
I'm just saying that the only fair way to look at it would be to include local housing and transport costs etc
before making the comparison
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:14, Reply)
You're all about the fairness, aren't you?

(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:17, Reply)
Unless it impacts negatively on him
in which case it can fuck off.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:18, Reply)
quite, survival of the fittest innit

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:23, Reply)
hes all about trying to justify the chip on his shoulder.
We should include private school costs as well
(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:18, Reply)
I can't believe he's sending his daughter to a private school
Does he want her to grow up a total cunt?
(Bazongaloid, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:20, Reply)
Hi Al!
I was privately educated and I'm perfectly lovely
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:22, Reply)
No, sorry ape, I'm afraid you've rather just rpoved my point.

(Bazongaloid, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:27, Reply)
Leave my kids fucking out of it! What have they done? You fucking retract that bit about my cunt fucking kids!

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:30, Reply)
Stop flailing around there Ape, you'll bruges yourself.

(Bazongaloid, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:34, Reply)
i hate all this bollocks about "fairness"
life ain't fair, get over it. If you live in Britain you are a fuck of a lot better off than most of the world, so stop moaning.
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:20, Reply)
You were the one who brought it up.

(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:23, Reply)
I only meant in relation to how that calculator worked
it is a blunt instrument, that's all.
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:25, Reply)
*cough* 90% *cough*
I'm not sure I filled it out right.
(I helped save b3ta! The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:13, Reply)
You probably did
but you've just not appreciated that although the average wage is something shit like 22K, or possibly worse, that "average" is massively skewed upwards by a few people earning millions.

The median wage would be much lower, which is pretty depressing.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:19, Reply)
I think the average is around £27-28K
But, as you say, this is a bollocks figure skewed upwards (by Stunned).
(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:22, Reply)
£26500 at last count.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:25, Reply)
that was less than my graduate starting salary
how shit are these people that they are worse thana grad with no experience?
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:26, Reply)
You're just the best

(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:30, Reply)
nah, loads of people earn more than me
I'm just saying some people are shit, let them be shit, don't pay them extra for being shit
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:32, Reply)
It's not about paying people extra for being shit.
It's about people having enough money to live on.
Y'know for food and a roof over their heads, that sort of thing.
(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:39, Reply)
So you would suggest there should be massive investment in education?
Perhaps try to increase the numbers attending university?
(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:34, Reply)
nah, some people are shit to the core
no point throwing good money after bad is there
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:38, Reply)
I was about to link you back to the "Let them die" post up there, but I see you have already acknowledged this.

(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:40, Reply)
The only easy mistake to make is you need to put it as after tax.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:25, Reply)
Oh my
97% of people have less money than me.

I almost feel bad about that.
(I helped save b3ta! the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:00, Reply)
So you have a household income of about £80k?
What's does your missus do?
(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:02, Reply)
She's a fairly senior civil servant
I'm a fairly senior academic.
(I helped save b3ta! the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:03, Reply)
you have £100k household income after tax each year?
edit: with child
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:02, Reply)
nope, not that high, up there the boundaries are quite wide.
it goes tits up once the child arrives, plus we'll lose about a third of my wifes income when she goes back part time, so i'll be down at 94% before you know it.
(I helped save b3ta! the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:04, Reply)
Waaaahhhhhh

(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:05, Reply)
First world problems, chompy.

(I helped save b3ta! the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:05, Reply)
Scotland? 1st world? really?

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:06, Reply)
1st and a half.

(I helped save b3ta! the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:07, Reply)
*middle class guilt fives*
You are comfortable: compared to the rest of society, you are better off and income have risen higher than those in the middle.
(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:03, Reply)
Mine says
You are in the squeezed middle: income levels have not risen significantly and you're feeling the pinch
:((
(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:04, Reply)
77%
but I feel rich
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:19, Reply)
99% of people have a lower income than me.
Cahnts!!
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:03, Reply)
98%
you smug bastard
(I helped save b3ta! rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:38, Reply)
97% i mean
stupid keyboard
(I helped save b3ta! rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:40, Reply)
I hope you earn £50k and are planning more kids.
If you get 3, every £1 you earn between 50-60k will be effectivley taxed at 68%
(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:50, Reply)
:(((((((((((((((((((((((
*phones jimmy Carr*

"uh huh, yeah...like the where the cows come from? sounds good, count me in!"
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:51, Reply)
Isn't it possible that keeping benefits low will keep wages low?
It's going to be pretty hard to attract staff to a job if you're paying less than benefits.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:48, Reply)
unless your a forrin who doesn't qualify for benefits anyway

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:50, Reply)
supply, demand and profit dicate wages
I suppose it might have a tiny effect on minimum wage positions.
(I helped save b3ta! the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:50, Reply)
My musings are that lower benifits increase worker supply without changing the others, driving wage costs down.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:56, Reply)
This might be true, if a little simplistic
I'm not sure it'll work the other way around though?
(I helped save b3ta! the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:02, Reply)
Oh man, I just won a FREE twix!
in your face government cuts!
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:44, Reply)
You're posting this in the wrong thread.

(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:46, Reply)
I know, but there's no one left over there

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:47, Reply)
against
obvs, I'm a lefty liberal
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:54, Reply)
...with a MAGIC VAGINA

(I helped save b3ta! Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 14:56, Reply)
So that's where 'cream eggs' come from

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:00, Reply)
have i?
man, this is news to me
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:01, Reply)
The popular page says you do.

(I helped save b3ta! Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:03, Reply)
GRASSSSSSSSSSSSS

(I helped save b3ta! hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:04, Reply)
CURSE YOU WINDY PIG!

(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:04, Reply)
What are you doing here?
It's not home time yet.
(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:07, Reply)
still ill
I'm going back in tomorrow, though, even if I'm not better. I am proper fed up
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:08, Reply)

me bbit
(I helped save b3ta! hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:08, Reply)
DEAR GOD THIS IS DULL.

(I helped save b3ta! Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:01, Reply)
YOURN DULL!

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:05, Reply)
I was waiting for it to dissolve into chaos
Can you believe people with opinions actually spoiling the thread by keeping it going.
(I helped save b3ta! hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:06, Reply)
I am richer than 99% of the population.
I don't give a fuck.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:08, Reply)
You're my hero stunner

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:09, Reply)
I get that alot.
You know, Nakers, my only goal is to wake the world up and move this planet a little closer to the future.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:13, Reply)
by having lunch

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:16, Reply)

the world
this planet a little closer
future + pub
(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:16, Reply)
That's unfair.
I am always client-centric in my solutioneering.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:17, Reply)
Haha you massive cunt.

(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:18, Reply)
You know me.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:19, Reply)
Have you and Jeff sorted a date for a Bristol bash yet?

(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:23, Reply)
are they a couple, then?

(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:29, Reply)
Yes.
Getting married in the first half of this year.
(I helped save b3ta! tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:40, Reply)
I thought you'd have a lot to say about the benefit system, due to the mother of your child.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:06, Reply)
You mean the bird that totally jobbed him on Saturday

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:07, Reply)
#monty got beaten up by a girl #

(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:08, Reply)
Not beaten up. Totally owned by. Bitch slapped if you will.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:08, Reply)
by a real bitch

(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:10, Reply)
:o(

(I helped save b3ta! Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:13, Reply)
There, there.
Have you done a little piss in your knickers?
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:14, Reply)
Yes.

(I helped save b3ta! Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:17, Reply)
here to help
www.tena.co.uk/men/
(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:18, Reply)
Take some Arnica for your bruising and some cyanide for your pride

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:15, Reply)
But she’s no friend ........
Ohhhhhh wait I may have got the wrong end of the stick here.
(I helped save b3ta! hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Tue 8 Jan 2013, 15:07, Reply)
That can't
be right. Apparently I'm in the 95th percentile.

That's bollocks.

EDIT: And no, given that income support is around .7% of the welfare budget I don't think that capping it at 1% is a good idea at all. It should rise with the *real* rate of inflation.
(dchurch bah, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 11:18, Reply)

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