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(I helped save b3ta! rob, Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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Ethical debate
Based on this:

www.journallive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-news/2010/04/15/newcastle-university-scientists-in-dna-advance-61634-26248377/

Should the bloke in the photo have plastic surgery to give him some lips?
(I helped save b3ta! Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 15 Apr 2010, 10:52, 90 replies, latest was 16 years ago)
Dunno about that
but he should be in a lab coat
(I helped save b3ta! Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 10:53, Reply)
saw this on the news yesterday
They featured some woman who kept on having children despite knowing they'd be severly disabled physically and mentally. She had 6 kids that didn't last 4 weeks and an 18 year old who lives in constant pain.

I found myself shouting at the TV: STOP BREEDING YOU SELFISH BINT!
(I helped save b3ta! djtrialprice, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 10:55, Reply)
She's mentioned on the third page of the article.
I heard it this morning and that was my first reaction, but according to this she wasn't diagnosed with the condition until the fifth baby died.
(I helped save b3ta! Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 15 Apr 2010, 10:58, Reply)
They don't mention whether the surviving kid was before or after the diagnosis, though.
Tricky one that - have a broken kid or none at all...
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:03, Reply)
I think after two or three
I'd say that enough was enough. That sort of heartbreak should never have to be endured.
(I helped save b3ta! K2k6 has a proper job these days, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:08, Reply)
I think adoption should be first on the list of people who can't conceive
rather than expensive IVF treatment and whatnot.

Obviously, I might feel different were I actually faced with the situation myself, but at the moment I think that if I couldn't conceive then adoption would be my next choice.
(I helped save b3ta! Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:31, Reply)
My wife and I conceived very easily
but we are still considering adoption. So many kids end up in foster homes moving about and not having a stable life. If we thought we would actually meet the rather strict criteria we would do it.
(I helped save b3ta! Peej, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:47, Reply)
That would be lovely
but you're right, they do seem so strict, that's why everyone is adopting Guatamalan babies and the like.
(I helped save b3ta! Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:27, Reply)
You shout that at people giving birth in the Merseyside region

(I helped save b3ta! Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 10:59, Reply)
It's a serious problem!
The government should do something. Aren't there anymore industries they could shut down?
(I helped save b3ta! djtrialprice, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:10, Reply)
It seems to me there are lots of
children already born who need families. Wouldn't dealing with this problem be more productive than concentrating on making more brats?
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:02, Reply)
this sounds like one of those
why are you doing X when we still don't have a cure for cancer / HIV?

Some people just don't want a kid that's not biologically theirs so will always drive research to allow them to do so.
(I helped save b3ta! djtrialprice, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:08, Reply)
i suppose
it must be because I have no maternal instinct. Kids are all pretty much the same, aren't they?

also, I am impressed by the science of it all, I'm not saying they shouldn't, I just question why people are so obsessed with having kids
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:09, Reply)
No, they aren't pretty much all the same.
look at Harvey Price. GO ON, LOOK AT HIM.
(I helped save b3ta! Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:11, Reply)
"om nom nom nom"
Ms Price, your thing appears to be trying to eat my shoes
(I helped save b3ta! djtrialprice, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:13, Reply)
that's so harsh!

(I helped save b3ta! Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:32, Reply)
Totally
I'm never getting those slavers out of my DGs!
(I helped save b3ta! djtrialprice, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:35, Reply)
Good lord those slavers are everywhere. Lock up your women!

(porkylips looks better as the sun goes down., Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:39, Reply)
'cos women
are proper mentals trufax
(I helped save b3ta! djtrialprice, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:11, Reply)
Innit.

(I helped save b3ta! Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:12, Reply)
It's a natural urge to reproduce
and hence ensure the survival of the species.

I must admit it seems to have missed me out though. I have never liked the idea, despite the testimony of all my mates who say, "Oh I felt like that too, but now that I'm a dad it's great" etc etc. I'm yet to be convinced.
(I helped save b3ta! K2k6 has a proper job these days, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:11, Reply)
Similar to people who buy an iPhone
"To start with the shafting I received from Apple really chafed, but now I'm locked into a lengthy contractual agreement I've convinced myself I love it."

You can really feel the warmth I have for children.
(I helped save b3ta! djtrialprice, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:15, Reply)
Please don't go babysitting tonight

(I helped save b3ta! Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:17, Reply)
Or if you do
best leave your pointy stick at home.
(I helped save b3ta! K2k6 has a proper job these days, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:18, Reply)
Where I go
the stick goes
(I helped save b3ta! djtrialprice, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:22, Reply)
I've already agreed to.
Technically, the ex is looking after the kid. I'm just there to look after her if she stops breathing.
(I helped save b3ta! djtrialprice, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:21, Reply)
Oh aye?
I'm just there to look after her if she stops breathing feel her up on the couch.

That is what babysitting is all about.
(I helped save b3ta! Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:23, Reply)
Giggity
+ if she stops breathing
(I helped save b3ta! djtrialprice, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:32, Reply)
*rolling pin*

(I helped save b3ta! Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:41, Reply)
haha iKid
Kid shitting everywhere? There's an app for that.
Kid filled with unrelenting hatred? There's an app for that.
(I helped save b3ta! Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:34, Reply)
Not with me it isn't.
Never had the desire to procreate.
(I helped save b3ta! Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:25, Reply)
HaHa.
Newcastle - World leaders in eugenics. Oh the irony.
(porkylips looks better as the sun goes down., Thu 15 Apr 2010, 10:55, Reply)
This reminds me
of a schoolteacher friend of mine who, when describing a particularly obnoxious and ignorant pupil, declared her to be 'a walking advertisement for a robust eugenics programme'.

I found this most humorous.
(I helped save b3ta! K2k6 has a proper job these days, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:13, Reply)
That is properly brilliant, yay science!
I think giving him lips would be be an error as it may lead to an improved social life, and thus less time in the lab.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:02, Reply)
You are, as ever, the voice of reason on the internet.

(I helped save b3ta! Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:03, Reply)
As I have no feelings I am always able to take the rational view.

(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:04, Reply)
Good point.
Well made.
(I helped save b3ta! Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:05, Reply)
He told me he had feelings for me
But he was just angling for a pint.
(I helped save b3ta! djtrialprice, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:11, Reply)
He does that.

(I helped save b3ta! Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:18, Reply)
Oh, I get THOSE kind of feelings.
The "wanting a pint" kind, I mean.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:19, Reply)

rational Daily Mail
(I helped save b3ta! Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:06, Reply)
Oh, the Mail has feelings:
the feeling of FEAR that FORRIN TYPES and IMMIGRANTS will FEED THEIR CHILDREN TO PEEDOS.
(LongJohnBaldry, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:13, Reply)
I haven't read the story,
but i saw the headline "Paedo's Paradise On Our High Streets" this morning. I wondered if they were opening some sort of a franchise.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:20, Reply)
If its a sweet shop, Gonz will know about it.

(I helped save b3ta! Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:25, Reply)
Are you calling him a Pedo?

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:47, Reply)
either that or fat

(I helped save b3ta! Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:34, Reply)
Oh, if you insist.

(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:58, Reply)
hawt

(I helped save b3ta! Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 13:24, Reply)
Yes, he should have lips,
just like Leslie Ash, the groper.

EDIT: I wikiied it: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_groper
(I helped save b3ta! Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:04, Reply)
You mis-spelt "grouper."

(LongJohnBaldry, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:12, Reply)
I stand corrected.

(LongJohnBaldry, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:19, Reply)
Thank you
*flounces off*
(I helped save b3ta! Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:24, Reply)
Is that a spelling mistake or an expression of wish?

(porkylips looks better as the sun goes down., Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:13, Reply)
He picked up the word wrongly
His herring's not very good!
(I helped save b3ta! K2k6 has a proper job these days, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:14, Reply)
Poor sole.
I codn't believe it when I first heard.
(I helped save b3ta! Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:19, Reply)
Yeah
He's in a bad plaice at the moment.
(I helped save b3ta! K2k6 has a proper job these days, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:19, Reply)
What's he doing with that kipper on his head?
Is he Jewish?
(I helped save b3ta! Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:21, Reply)
You're floundering a bit now, for the love of Cod.
It's making me really crabby.
(I helped save b3ta! Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:44, Reply)
This is an eely good thread

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:45, Reply)
You guys are totally carp at this.

(I helped save b3ta! Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:50, Reply)
Oh, shark at you.

(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:06, Reply)
Try as much as you like
I'm not going to rise to the bait.
(I helped save b3ta! Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:50, Reply)
Don't take that Tuna with me!

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:52, Reply)
Well, aren't you a little ray of sunshine?

(I helped save b3ta! Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:56, Reply)
He's being a bit
of a bass-tard.
(I helped save b3ta! K2k6 has a proper job these days, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:02, Reply)
Be-hake yourselves!

(I helped save b3ta! Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:03, Reply)
Nah
we're having a whale* of a time.


*not actually a fish, of course
(I helped save b3ta! K2k6 has a proper job these days, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:05, Reply)
Is a fish's favourite Doctor Who
Patrick Trouton?
(I helped save b3ta! Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:21, Reply)
No
It's Jon Perch-wee
(I helped save b3ta! K2k6 has a proper job these days, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:25, Reply)
They particularly liked the episode in which he rode a motor pike.

(Cave Duck, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:28, Reply)
oh please stop
PLEASE
(I helped save b3ta! Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:28, Reply)
For fuck's hake!

(I helped save b3ta! Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:31, Reply)
Roe is me.

(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:33, Reply)
I hake you all
dammit now you've got me involved.
(I helped save b3ta! Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:34, Reply)
I can't think of another pun
Give me a minnow-t and I'll sea what I can come up with.
(I helped save b3ta! Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:35, Reply)
We're all hooked on this now

(I helped save b3ta! K2k6 has a proper job these days, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:39, Reply)
Salmon needs to put a stop to us.

(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:41, Reply)
It's gone totally off the scale.

(I helped save b3ta! Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:43, Reply)
Calm down.
I'm not anemone.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:41, Reply)
You are looking
a bit green around the gills though.
(I helped save b3ta! K2k6 has a proper job these days, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:44, Reply)
Hahaha winner!

(I helped save b3ta! Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:44, Reply)
now
halibut a nice cup of tea?
(I helped save b3ta! Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:48, Reply)
You really couldn't hake this up.

(I helped save b3ta! Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 15 Apr 2010, 13:12, Reply)
I'm currently writing a post about this
I'll stick it up here later.
(I helped save b3ta! Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:11, Reply)
Pervert

(I helped save b3ta! Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:16, Reply)
Gary.

(I helped save b3ta! Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:19, Reply)
Guv'nor

(I helped save b3ta! Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:20, Reply)
*Nods*

(I helped save b3ta! Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:21, Reply)
*makes the tea*

(I helped save b3ta! Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:21, Reply)
will you be around to do post-signings?
If I tell you how amazing I think you are, can I get a mention in the post foreword?
(I helped save b3ta! Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 15 Apr 2010, 12:29, Reply)

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