Alright, techno geeks.
I need your help. As you may or may not remember/care, my beloved mp3 player broke last month, and despite Psychochomp's help remained firmly fucked. The battery on my old one only lasts half and hour and since I walk everywhere in Manchester, I need a new one.
Thing is, I haven't got a fucking clue what I'm looking for. Every player has some rave reviews and some "don't even bother" reviews, so I have no idea whether they're worth the risk.

I'm looking for a 8/16gb mp3 or 4 player, and I don't care if it does anything else besides play music. Can any one recommend any makes or models? Any one who says iPod wins a kick in the face and a mac up the arse.

Alt Q: Tell me about your favourite pair of shoes.
(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:36, 84 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

Get a Saisho radio-cassette from Dixons.

EDIT original 70s stock Adidas shell-toes with the thin tongues and forest green stripes. I lost them on a drug bender in Spain, along with a £300 bracelet, a Diesel watch and my dignity.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:37, Reply)

I'm not listening to you,
You posted above me.
(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:38, Reply)

Shall I delete it?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:38, Reply)

Nah, its alright.

(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:39, Reply)

i never thought i would say this
but crocs.

they are comfortable and i don't care if they look gay, you don't have to wear the special need ones, you can get the normalish looking ones
( zulu eh?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:38, Reply)

You are dead to me now.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:38, Reply)

You just redeemed yourself

(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:40, Reply)

these ones
www.mycrocs.co.za/product_detail.php?page=showcase&id=10128&cid=261
( zulu eh?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:42, Reply)

They are fucking FOUL, Zulu.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:43, Reply)

they're an acquired taste :)

( zulu eh?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:44, Reply)

Get out.

(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:44, Reply)

:(

( zulu eh?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:46, Reply)

I'm sorry,
But ugly shoes make me angry.
(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:50, Reply)

no its fine... i understand...
sigh...

will make sure i stock up on some TOO COOL FOR SKOOL Nike airs or summat, you know, the gnarly ones from a sweatshop
( zulu eh?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:53, Reply)

I don't like trainers either.

(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:55, Reply)

typical bloody woman
never happy...

how about sandals? worn with environmentally friendly socks?
( zulu eh?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:57, Reply)

HELL NO.
I feel sorry for men, a much higher proportion of shoes available for them are ugly than for women.
(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:01, Reply)

that's because they're just shoes
they go on your feet...
( zulu eh?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:03, Reply)

No!
Shoes are very important. Pick the right ones, and you will look great, feel great and be lovely and comfy.
Pick the wrong ones and it doesn't matter what else you're wearing, you will look a twat, and mess up your feet.
(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:06, Reply)

a guy i worked with
came into work wearing these:
www.vibramfivefingers.com/
he was laughed out of the office
( zulu eh?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:20, Reply)

I just did a little sick in my mouth.
They're horrible.
(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:25, Reply)

yes
people walked over to his desk just to mock him and point
( zulu eh?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:26, Reply)

I don't think they are ugly
They are beach shoes, aren't they?
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:33, Reply)

45 quid for THOSE?
Ugh.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:47, Reply)

Creative Zen
sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs137.ash2/40181_438948013912_509488912_4708008_2297518_n.jpg
(Himjim died a little more inside on, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:39, Reply)

Hello there Jimbo.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:40, Reply)

Creative are solid players
I gave up on my mp3 player a while back though, when I got my new phone. Does everything I need, with music. Get a Sony Ericsson on contract.

If you're nowhere near ending your contract/willing to buy a new phone, head to Aldi on a Thursday, they'll often have some cracking electrical deals on.

Alt Q: I have a pair of slippers with breasts on. I like breasts.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:40, Reply)

LOOK AT ME I'M DANCING!

( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:44, Reply)

Erm, good for you?

(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:45, Reply)

for a second i thought you were having a seizure

( zulu eh?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:45, Reply)

That's because you're not down with the new way of dancing

( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:46, Reply)

Why no to ipod?
edit - just curious
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:46, Reply)

They're crap.
I should know because I keep buying them.
( girlinthehole, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:47, Reply)

BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO OWN APPLE ARE MASSIVE GAY TWATOHEADOFACES

( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:47, Reply)

Don't be mean to Gonz!
I agree that those who buy Apple because it's Apple are twatbaskets, but they still have their place. Pretty much every designer I've ever met use Macs.

Then again, most touch kids too

But this is pretty damn funny...
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:48, Reply)

YOU'RE SO SEXY WHEN YOU WRITE IN CAPS XX
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:51, Reply)

I TOTALLY KNOW LOLZ

( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:51, Reply)

Apart from what both B- and TGB said
I just really don't like them. They're more expensive purely because of their name and everyone has them. Plus, I don't want itunes. I just want a simple drag and drop
(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:49, Reply)

That's the reason I went for a Creative, just better in every way

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:50, Reply)

That's why I got a Sony Walkman
And so I can say. I have a Sony Walkman
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:51, Reply)

Nice

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:55, Reply)

The Walkman was originally going to be called The Stowaway.
Just saying, like.
(Cave Duck, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:04, Reply)

fair enough,
I got one because I assumed they were great, to be honest I'm more interested in what songs you're listening to than what you're listening to them on.

I loved my ipod til I lost it.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:51, Reply)

+in my ass after a night of experimentation and vasoline

( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:52, Reply)

I'm so fucking hot for you right now you badgery minx

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:55, Reply)

Everyone is.
I like you a lot more now you're not taking the internet seriously.
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:56, Reply)

Don't spoil the mood

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:58, Reply)

Sorry...
FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING SEAHORSE CUNT
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:01, Reply)

I bought some Cons at the weekend
with the foldy down top. I look like a child, but they're brilliant.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:48, Reply)

Happy candle day!

(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:50, Reply)

fanks
I'm sad I don't get to play pole until October, but hopefully I will have nailed Aysha by then so I won't fail. Is everyone in your class awesome or can we show them up?
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:52, Reply)

I'm sad for you.
It varies, I don't know what this new class will be like, but I was probably one of the most advanced in the one before the summer. So you will probably own.
(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:54, Reply)

AWESOME
I don't like it when everyone else can do loads of mad hard stuff, it makes me feel like a spack. More so than normal.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:58, Reply)

dunno competition
does help you raise your game. You might meet your pole nemesis.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:59, Reply)

Applebite is my pole nemesis
I think we're about the same level and we can both do different stuff so we swap moves. I agree though, I assume the teacher will kick my ass though.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:05, Reply)

Mmm, I think you're better.
But only slightly and cos you can't do teddybear :)
Yeah, Becky is incredible, AND she does it in trainers half the time.
(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:07, Reply)

It's easier in trainers, you can grip without skin pain!
I hate Teddybear, it can fuck off. I think people think I'm really advanced because I can do the two handsprings, but I'm still really shaky with brass monkey which some people did from intermediate, so it's swings and roundabouts.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:09, Reply)

My favourite pair are the ones I wore to Al's wedding thingy
the knee high patent lace up DMs :D So comfy.

I probably second the Creative Zen.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:50, Reply)

Your 'There's No Place Like Home' shoes were awesome

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:54, Reply)

I wandered around in my green ones
I'd forgotten about them. My heart swelled when I found them.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:57, Reply)

Sweet.

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:02, Reply)

I do love those shoes.

(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:55, Reply)

I have a lot of amazing shoes :D

( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:57, Reply)

Your entire wardrobe makes me insanely jealous.

(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:59, Reply)

I'm sure there's a lot in there that would fit you
and I'll never get back to that size.


Just to taunt you :P
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:10, Reply)

Argh!
Why must you torment me like this?
(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:26, Reply)

I'll have a look around, what's your budget?

(PsychoChomp, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:52, Reply)

I'm asking for it for my birthday.
So go wild.
My parents are poor though, so no more than £100 most likely.
(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:54, Reply)

the best mp3 player I ever had was this one:
images.trustedreviews.com/images/article/inline/2326-1.jpg

It's proper cute and tiny, it holds loads of music and it's just drag and drop adding music so no fannying around with software. The battery also lasts for ages, I used to only have to charge it about once a fortnight and that was getting using it for 2 hours every day. Plus it's almost indestructable because it's so light, it bounces if you drop it and its faces are 2cm square.

Mine died after 3 years when it fell in the sea :(
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:56, Reply)

I was just looking for a review and I found this:
www.lightinthebox.com/4GB-Cross-MP3-Player---Two-Color-LCD-Display--YYPD016-_p97893.html

ha!
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:01, Reply)

Based on the experience of a relative
I'd steer clear of Sony's outputs - he's been through two models and neither has been particularly edifying.

Alt Q: the brown walking boots I normally wear.
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:59, Reply)

agree with that
had a sony, looked cool but slow, the software was very buggy and all in all a poor copy of an ipod

which was a pity as the sound was pretty damn good
( zulu eh?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:00, Reply)

My sony is awesome
www.microanvika.com/product.asp?TXT=INFO&PNO=SON59415&ref=froogle&cam=SON59415&key=142457

It got soaked in my pocked when I was cauught in a monsoon but after I let it dry for a couple of hours worked again no problems
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:04, Reply)

The problems I heard about were
Sluggish software (after a few months it would take ages just to boot up) and lousy battery life (decayed after a few months' use). Of course, if yours hasn't encountered these then perhaps said relative was just unlucky.
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:06, Reply)

actually, that's a point
mine did survive a 70mph bike crash and being soaked in oil for 24 hours

that might explain the buggy software/general slowness of navigation...
( zulu eh?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:06, Reply)

i wore my new black designer shoes on sat
which are black and lacy with a tiny sparkle on them. i was pleased that i could actually walk further than the front door in them, which makes a change. 10/10 for stuart weitzman, would buy again (in cream, this weekend probably, knowing me).
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:02, Reply)

MP3's
Zune, if you can find one. Otherwise, Creative do some nice ones and the new Sony Walkmans are supposed to sound rather nice.

Shoes - never gone wrong with New Rocks.
(Potty Jag har smör i min rumpspringa, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:06, Reply)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJcSYyXl8j4
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:07, Reply)

I bought some new Desert Boots...
...and they look great.
Only problem is that for some odd reason the upper smells like fishcakes.
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:12, Reply)

My favourite pair of shoes
Are from Japan, Oi Polloi arrow weaver moccasins and they are ace.
(Barry from Eastenders is, despite the words written above, not a woman, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:14, Reply)

My shoes
have all got holes in. I should replace them, but I can't really be arsed.

FASCINATING FACTS
( Kroney, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:20, Reply)

A little while after giving up eating animals, it struck me that it was sort of hypocritical to continue wearing them.
Generally the non-leather shoes are about 60 quid plus p&p a pair, and as a consequence I only have about three pairs at any time. My current favourites are a reasonably smart tan pair, my first deviation from my "they have to be black" rule. I've now come to regard blue jeans worn with black shoes as slightly unsightly. I just can't decide whether, for me, this is a great leap forward in the stlye stakes, or simply the first steps on the road that will see me dressing all in beige within five years.
(Cave Duck, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:26, Reply)

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3880791/Trail/searchtext%3EMP3+PLAYER.htm
Lego and MP3 player = win
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:31, Reply)

Late answer but I'll try and sway you
www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?q=SanDisk+Sansa+Clip%2B+8GB&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=11090325025115560428&ei=qGeFTLHHKpP84Aa4tITSBA&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCEQ8wIwAA#

It's 8 gigs. Extremely simple, LED screen with zero frills. Get yourself a decent set of headphones and you'll be laughing.

I've had mine since March and even with sweaty ears jogging 3 times a week I've never had a problem. For £38 an absolute bargain and you can also stick 2 fingers up to Apple chunts.
( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 23:15, Reply)