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*honk honk*

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 10:59, 174 replies, latest was 15 years ago)
Are you a goose?

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 11:02, Reply)
Are you Maverick?

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 11:08, Reply)
This gives me a hard on.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 11:11, Reply)
what doesn't?

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 11:26, Reply)
Fair point.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 11:37, Reply)
It's classified. I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 11:14, Reply)
Are you Brum?
So the wedding rehearsal last night was one of the least organised things I've ever been at. The building is highly unattractive, and the lighting is awful. Today is going to be long and hard.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 11:28, Reply)
like the wedding night?
lots of luck, i am sure your photos will make it for them.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 11:39, Reply)
Hopefully they will
Everything's charged and pretty much ready to go now.

How'd the morning fitness appointment go?
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 11:42, Reply)
painful after last night
but meh. going again first thing tomorrow morning and then for a long walk tomorrow afternoon though so will be nice and stiff by monday.

do you get to stay for the afterparty as well then? that's the only bit of a wedding that's worth going to...
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 11:44, Reply)
I was going to the evening anyway
Since I know the people. Not really sure when to stop taking photos, so will probably just stop once the memory cards are all full.

How are the new ridiculous trainers working out for you?
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 11:53, Reply)
can never have too many photos!
until you get drunk anyway. so will you be all suited up, a penguin in a penguin suit??

the trainers are good, ordinary trainers feel very flat and funny now. they are making me walk miles more every week, so it was worth it even if they are total bollocks. but they are a disaster on the tube, the minute it lurches to a halt, i fall over.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:03, Reply)
Suited up, but not in my good suit
Because the camera straps would probably ruin the shoulders, which I don't really want to do. The memory cards and settings and things I'm using should give me a total of about 1000 photos, give or take. Think that should be enough.

Watching the tube falling over would be, I'm sorry to say, nothing short of hilarious. I think that's clearly the best thing to come out of you buying them.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:09, Reply)
still, suits are good
any potential mrspenguins there?

humph, i've nearly ended up nosediving several laps this week. including a troupe of elderly nuns, randomly. it is one tube that will never be on youtube, trust me.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:17, Reply)
Nope, none that I know of
Taking out nuns = hilarious. End of.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:23, Reply)
you and your sick, sick fantasies
poor old things, i would have smothered them to death.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:31, Reply)
Would still have been priceless to see
And now, a weather update: it looks well cloudy, and it better not rain on me.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:39, Reply)
OH NO
nothing worse for the bride than all the guests under umbrellas. fingers crossed for you!
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:41, Reply)
I have the mother of all headaches.
It hurts.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 11:32, Reply)
Were you on the piss?

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 11:37, Reply)
you need a cold drink
and something with sugar in it.

/drswipe
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 11:40, Reply)
I've had a can of Coke
That has helped a bit. What I probably need to do, is to go back to bed for an hour. Instead, I'm going to go out for a walk and hope the fresh-air does the trick.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 11:45, Reply)
Beep Beep!
How're you this morning* Noel?

*EDIT - afternoon
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:02, Reply)
Afternoon berk!
And everyone else :)
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:04, Reply)
hola chico/chica

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:06, Reply)
Alright?
I'm too tired, full of cold and craving chocolate, cider and crisps, all of which are a twenty-five minute round trip away :( but other than that I'm fucking awesoem!
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:08, Reply)
How do Noel!
I'm still a bit sniffly and somehow hungover, despite making a bottle of red wine last seven hours last night. But I'm feeling fairly chipper as well
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:10, Reply)
I was just reading Facebook and everyone going *groan* hangover meh and all that
and realised I can't remember the last time I had a hangover. Result.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:11, Reply)
Well, isn't that
because you don't drink?
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:12, Reply)
Yeah, mostly.
I've had a couple of drinks recently but nothing resembling the sessions I used to have. I appear to have finally learned restraint.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:21, Reply)

restraint bondage.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:25, Reply)
I have been learning knots recently
mainly because I'm great like that.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:29, Reply)
A couple of epic three day hangovers
in the last year or so seem to have finally taught me my lesson - I rarely get hammered now just because I can't deal with how ill I feel afterwards. I must be getting old :(
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:28, Reply)
Took me 34 years to work that out.
I think you've done yourself a favour mate, don't lament it.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:29, Reply)
Non-alcoholic beer, that's the way forward
May be a massive fib
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:30, Reply)
I've tried a couple of those recently
and they were surprisingly nice.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:35, Reply)
Not particularly keen.
You can definitely taste something's not quite right with them.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:38, Reply)
The two I tried were obscure foreign-sounding jobs
instead of these commercial brand ones. Pretty good.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:41, Reply)
Remember Kaliber?
*bokes*
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:44, Reply)
Christ, that was grim.
I don't even know why I tried it, curiosity I think.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:49, Reply)
Vile stuff.
So gassy as well.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:50, Reply)
I felt sick
the other day when I woke up. But I think it was the cold not alcohol
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:42, Reply)
'noon Beekers
red wine does that to me as well. Unlucky. Fortunately I'm entirely hangover free this evening as bizarrely last night was one of the few nights I haven't been drinking this week.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:14, Reply)
I haven't been drinking much at all lately so maybe losing the tolerance.
This evening could be fun as my three lady cousins are across in Leeds tonight for the middle one's 30th. She hasn't had a drink in about a year while she had her third child, so it could get very messy!
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:16, Reply)
Best thing to cure a hangover is to take your mum to the supermarket.
Well it's worked for me.

Anyhoo! Yesterday I saw the loveliest thing ever. A little old lady walking down the street, pushing a little old terrier in one of those lightweight wheelchairs. It was sat bolt upright in the chair and watching the world go as they both slowly made their way.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:19, Reply)
I'm attempting to cure it with a dose of blues-rock greatness
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx6FV2qR2TY - can't go wrong with a bit of Clutch :)
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:21, Reply)
Ooo! I like them.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:34, Reply)
Seen them four times now.
Best live band I've ever seen. The best one was at the Corporation in Sheffield two years back. Never seen such a happy, joyous, dancing crowd. it was sublime.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:35, Reply)
Alright Blousie?
I'm in pain.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:28, Reply)
There there.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:34, Reply)
I've been sitting in the garden
Listening to the radio hoping that my headache will clear.

Fresh air has let me down, it's not worked.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 13:07, Reply)
It's deyhdration that does that.
Drink lots of fluids and have a nap.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 13:24, Reply)
I've got another can of pop on the go
I might try and have a snooze too.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 13:26, Reply)
I've got clean bedding on and I've changed to my winter quilt and I am sooooo going to have a nap after cleaning.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 13:36, Reply)
Fresh bedding is the best of all the bedding.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 13:43, Reply)
Just got out of my collection
Mr Goose
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:37, Reply)
Exam done?

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:39, Reply)
yeah
real world alert. Jargon collection = exam. How are you PoD?
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:41, Reply)
hope it went well! are you out celebrating tonight??
riiiiiiiiiiiight off to work now, gah.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:42, Reply)
At a birthday party tonight
enjoy work!
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:43, Reply)
Not bad at all
Just having a massive lunch before packing cameras and things.

How'd it go?
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:42, Reply)
apart from nullgendered nuns okay thanks
enjoy the after party at the wedding
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:53, Reply)
I'm taking my car and photographing lots
Won't be much time to enjoy unfortunately. Oh well.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:58, Reply)
How did it go?

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:41, Reply)
Could've been worse
I bullshitted my way through it, and added a couple of random comments about nuns being null-gendered

How are you Noely-Noel?
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:43, Reply)
Good enough for a Saturday lunchtime mate.
I'm tempted to get absolutely fucked but I'll probably just go out for a ten-mile walk and a joint on a hill somewhere.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 12:50, Reply)
That sounds quite nice
and the weather is pretty decent for it as well
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 13:00, Reply)
Sounds like a bloody marvellous idea
I'd prefer that just about any day to going out drinking - sadly it's a bit of a struggle to do stuff like that round here :(
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 13:26, Reply)
There truly is nothing better other than everything that is better.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 13:29, Reply)
Mornin'.
I just went to Selfridge's and back as my nose fell out in the middle of the night. Considering the shape of the stud that was VERY unlucky. So I treated myself to a nice sandwich from M and S's.

WHAT AN EXCITING LIFE I LEAD
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 13:18, Reply)
YOUR NOSE FELL OUT IS EXCITING

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 13:19, Reply)
I AGREE

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 13:22, Reply)
Yeah, I stood in the bathroom at 4 am with a needle and thread panicking.
(actually true. I couldn't be arsed detatching the thread from the needle.)
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 13:24, Reply)
I'm really confused.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 13:25, Reply)
Her nose fell out, Jeff.
It's quite simple.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 13:28, Reply)
Like Daniella Westbrooks did?
Cool.

My money was on Monty being the first person to require reconstructive surgery.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 13:31, Reply)
I attempted to repierce my nose with a sewing needle
before I realised it was a really, REALLY stupid idea.

Also, a fresh piercing came out, so it partially closed up.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 13:30, Reply)
I always have spare studs.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 13:25, Reply)
Wayhay!

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 13:28, Reply)
Haha!

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 13:37, Reply)
It was that I've only had it 5 days, and while I could get the bar in the front
it wouldn't come out the other side. So understandably I was a bit panicky. I called up in the morning and they told me to come in, and the piercer stuck a blunt bit of metal through to find the hole, then put it back in.

Apparently I was just unlucky, but I might invest in surgical tape and stick it down at night.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 13:29, Reply)
I always just keep plugging away at it until I find the hole.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 13:31, Reply)
No hang on wait that's cross-stitch.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 13:36, Reply)
Any hole is a goal Noel.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 13:37, Reply)
That's beautifully poetic.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 13:38, Reply)
*parp*

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 14:21, Reply)
I went to a batmizah thinggy, a 'united' (orphadox ( not hassidic)) one.
FIVE HOURS OF TEDDIOUS DULL CHANTING.

I was reading the english translation, it was all about how god is great for killing the firstborns of egypt. Seriously.

I was quite shocked, I've never been anit-religion before, but I'm very anti 'united' jewishness.

FIVE FUCKING HOURS.

Oh god, it was so dull and teddious and borring and women sit at the back and when they parade the scrolls around it just goes round the blokes section, even though it was a BATmitaizh, a girl's one.

They made someone sit outside, in the cold, for the whole thing, 'cus she wasn't "properly dressed", seriously, I can't believe it, compasion my arse. No wonder the world wants to blow up israel if they're reading this smug cunt's version of the siddor. I reckon that person dodged a bullet, I'd rather be outside fucking about on my phone.

Oh, yeah', my phone went off outside before it started and someone told me to go outside and round the corner. I then turned it onto silent and when I got back loads of people were staring at me, so I said to my uncle "Wow, I didn't realise they had mobile phones in biblical times" and he started laughing.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 15:13, Reply)
Could be worse
You could be a Bristol City supporter.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 15:15, Reply)
At least that's only 90 minutes.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 15:20, Reply)
And you can have a pie in the middle.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 15:22, Reply)
True
5 hours of God is a hell of a lot.

How far away from the required dress-code was the person who was made it sit outside?
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 15:22, Reply)
I think it was 'cus she didn't have a hat.
Not only that it was 5 hours of god, it was 5 hours of god with hardly any of it in english.

Christ, some people do that twice a week. They're in more dire need of a hooker, gram of coke and a bottle of vodka; than any banker in the country.

Loads of them wouldn't shake my hand 'cus I ain't one of those poncy jews. Or they would hold their hand out limp for me to shake them. I'm a lower life form, and would be lower still if I was female.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 15:28, Reply)
Why did you go?
If you're not in the Jews?
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 15:49, Reply)
good god
that is quite the dullest sounding thing on the planet, poor gonz
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 15:26, Reply)
Seconded.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 15:33, Reply)
I couldn't even escape 'cus I was the opening/closing the thing that they keep all the scrolls in, that happens at the begining middle and end.
So if I fucked off, people would have noticed.

Oh'yeah', as soon as I get in the car my cousen gives me a bollocking. 'cus the phone went to voicemail, 'cus I was on the phone talking to ma' to let her know I was leaving. I'm talking about a good 5 minute bollocking, I almost got her to stop the car, let me out, and I would have found a cab home.

Only reason I reckon they wanted me to open the thinggy was to force me into coming, so I couldn't back out, like all the other cousins my age.

I might make up some excuse about the party tomo, I'm sick of getting a bollocking from these people, donno who they reckon they are or who they're talking too, but I _am_ an adult.

Ranty rant rant.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 15:38, Reply)
Why not see if you can borrow Monty's
'Hitler - European Tour' t-shirt?

They sound like a barrel of laughs and would probably appreciate it.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 15:52, Reply)

laughs cunts
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 16:08, Reply)
Can cunts come in barrels?

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 16:13, Reply)
I experienced one the size of a barrel a few years ago

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 16:20, Reply)
delightful

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 16:32, Reply)
I wasn't feeling that delightful when I posted that, however a nap for an hour has fixed this.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 17:41, Reply)
Did manage to shoot any fish?

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 16:39, Reply)
so many things I could post in reply to this...

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 17:41, Reply)
Feel free!

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 17:42, Reply)

no but I caught crabs, no but there was a faint taste, etc etc. You get my drift.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 17:49, Reply)
There is nothing better than waking up from an afternoon nap in a clean bed to a clean house.
Well ok there's lots of better things, but this is going to have to do for now.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 16:56, Reply)
I see your nap, clean bed and house
and raise you Mr Scruff, cider and Monster Munch.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 16:57, Reply)
Mr Scruff?
Is that a euphemism?
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 16:59, Reply)
Probably.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksTTXEE2dCI
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 17:00, Reply)
I approve most wholeheartedly of this.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 17:32, Reply)
Which bit?

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 17:34, Reply)
All of it.
Provided it's Flamin' Hot/beef, the cider has black in and you're playing Spandex Man.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 17:38, Reply)
Ha!
Beef *and * Flamin' Hot, no black but there's some in the kitchen if you want it and Scruff has descended into Invaders Must Die.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 17:48, Reply)
Oh and! Vampy vampy.
My friend who was looking for company name inspiration was so pleased with what I did, she registered one of the domains I suggested and bought round three large bags of Walkers Sensations, tied with ribbon and lace and a note saying "I didn't think flowers were your thing." ^_^
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 17:53, Reply)
That's excellent. You should have asked for some free candles though!

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 17:56, Reply)
Man, that couldn't be further across the opposite end of what I find slightly interesting from where all the real shit goes down.
Unles ear candles can be used just like normal candles, in which case bring it on.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:00, Reply)
urghhhhh

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:02, Reply)
Hmm. I am content with Bacon Wheat Crunchies, vimto and False Priest.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 17:54, Reply)
A wonderful choice.
How's your day been?
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 17:55, Reply)
Had a pleasant bus ride to Selfridges (not going up the Walworth road, which is grot and I see it every day)
over Vauxhall Bridge and around Victora area and Hyde Park. Not a place I know well, so it's nice to look out the window. Had a short, painful yet fruitful meeting with the piercer, and home again. I've just not done very much and I'm still knackered. But it's been pleasant, and I've got 2 more days of "weekend". I plan to tidy my room and do some work.

How was your day?
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:01, Reply)
Late to bed and early up :(
Toast, honey and lemon tea and paracetamol to budge this cold, a few sweet hours with daughter then into town to stock up on crap. Daughter's gone to the fair in town so I'm home alone, sat here letting iTunes do its thing while the cider gently adjusts things for me.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:05, Reply)
The whole house seems to have some sort of sleepy-sickness, we were all in bed by 11.30.
Good luck on budging the cold. I have no tried-and-tested remedies I'm afraid.

I'm pretty bored, though. I quite want to go out, but I'm just too tired.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:08, Reply)
I'll tell you
The juice of half a lemon in the bottom of a cup, one tea-bag, filled with boiling water, squeeze the bag a couple of times, then three spoons of honey stirred in, taken with two paracetamol, is the only cure for colds I'll ever take now. Bloody brilliant.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:13, Reply)
Sounds quite nice actually.
I'll try that in a few months when I get my Terrible Winter Illness.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:16, Reply)
How long did you nap for?
And did you take my advice and go to the pub last night?
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 17:02, Reply)
Only about 2 hours and no, I don't go to pubs on my own.
I don't know of any woman that would.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 17:04, Reply)
But nothing says 'available for conversation' like sitting in a pub on your own!
Going out this evening?
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 17:05, Reply)
And nothing says 'all drunks will have a chance with this one' like sitting in a pub on your own.
No.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 17:08, Reply)
Heh heh heh
What you doing on your night in? Bar waiting until it's time to go to sleep in your clean bedding?

(In other news, I managed to shift my hangover, turned out, all I needed was a couple of small bottles of Stella).
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 17:11, Reply)
There is Star Trek marathon on Film 4 : )
Hair of the dog always amazes me on it's effectivness.


Off for a bath and then everything in this place will be shiny and clean.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 17:17, Reply)
Star Trek?
You DISGUST me.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 17:27, Reply)
I tell you.
If you haven't seen the new Star Trek film, you've missed out.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 17:34, Reply)
This seems to be a recurring theme with most men I meet.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 17:59, Reply)
Trek = win.
But you always knew I was different.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:01, Reply)
You're definitely speshul : )

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:04, Reply)
*bounces*

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:07, Reply)
The wonderful thing about Noels is you're the only one.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:16, Reply)
I'm unique.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:24, Reply)
Oh'yeah', lol, I forgot, I got into the c0nservative's website backend last night and posted a news story about how Thature is going on a Club 18-30s holiday in falaraki for her birthday.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 17:32, Reply)
Yeah, I managed to get in too.
Did you get a screencap? So overcome was I with excitement that I forgot to use a proxy, so my IP address is all over that bitch. Hopefully they'll be hunting down the 4chan haxxorz.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 17:33, Reply)
Have they fixed it now so it can't be accessed?

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 17:40, Reply)
Yeah, within about ten minutes of it appearing on /talk last night.
4chan ripped it to shreds and it was blocked soon after.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 17:52, Reply)
I would like to see some screengrabs but 4chan does my head in so won't head over there.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 17:56, Reply)
I'd link you up but they're all 404 now.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:02, Reply)
Tee hee, ditto.
I doubt they'd be interested in us though. I believe, and I could be wrong here, they'd have to prove that me and you had something to profit out of it and that the one page we did each caused it to crash out.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:06, Reply)
What went on here?

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:03, Reply)
The conservatives.com server had a PHP script error which meant you could get into the admin page and fuck shit up.
Some people did, I'll check my cache, hang on. Edit: nah, all gone, sorry.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:08, Reply)
Sounds hilolrious.
I'll look on the news/"news" sites.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:17, Reply)
It was pretty low-key I think.
www.b3ta.com/talk/6993915
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:18, Reply)
Woo anarchism!
Fight the power!
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:20, Reply)
i don't understand this computer lingo
so i'll just ask what you are all up to tonight?

i'm watching "the simpsons" then heading south of the river for dinner!

gonz, that there below has just proved my point!!!
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:22, Reply)
I'm going to sit at home and wait to be abducted by aliens.
IT WILL HAPPEN!
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:24, Reply)
No you won't. Clingons AREN'T REAL.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:30, Reply)
Klingons !!!

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:37, Reply)
You expect me to know?
More to the point, do you expect me to care?

I won't point out that 'Kilngons' aren't real either
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:38, Reply)
SOTR FTW.
I'm probably going to lie in bed for a bit.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:30, Reply)
sotr??
why am i not down with the kidz any more?

edit - south of the river. i presumed it was something on tv or summat.

god i'm thick.

we're off to streatham, whereabouts be you then??
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:33, Reply)
I'm in Camberwell.
Ignore Al, he's just jealous he doesn't live here.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:42, Reply)
It's not even a code error, it's a bad coding practice. How it works (basicly) is like this.
$sql = "SELECT * FROM users WHERE (username='$username') AND (password = '$password);";

So that 'sql' script will look in a table (like a spreadsheet) called 'users' and select all the rows where the column 'username' is the same as the input ($username), and the column password = $password... and then return that row so you can do something with it.

By making the $username = 'admin', which is pretty standard (at least, shouldn't be, but is used a lot) is almost always there, it turns the script into

$sql = "SELECT * FROM users WHERE (username='admin') AND (password = '$password');";

By setting $password to ') OR ('1' = '1 means that it'll run

$sql = "SELECT * FROM users WHERE (username='admin') AND (password = '') OR ('1' = '1');";

So we're looking for where the username = 1, the password = 'blank' OR 1 = 1..... 1 always = 1 and so would return the row and allow the aurtherisation to take place.

For you geeks out there, I only know MySQL, which doesn't use the () on select statements, so I'm guessing that's the syntax for whatever database system they're using, maybe MS SQL? I donno, that bit is an estimate.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:19, Reply)
*blank stare*

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:21, Reply)
-blinks-
Nope.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:26, Reply)
It's quite a common error then?

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:23, Reply)
Used to be, not so much these days with frameworks that automaticlly build the statement.
For example, in my framework I've built, it'll do....

$table = "users";
$data = array('username' => $username, 'password' => $password);
$row = $core -> db -> select_row($table, $data);

'select_row' inside 'db' inside 'core' is a function that would build the sql statement, making sure that all everything in the $data array is Escaped. There are sevrel ways of doing this, but this is the most basic example that people might understand. Another one would be

$sql = $core -> -> db -> makeSQL("Select * from users where username = ? and password = ?", $username, $password);

Which would do something similar.

The bold stuff I would normally do a few things with it first, but a lot of people give that direct access to a database.

The vars and names are changed to protect the innocent.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:31, Reply)
To be honest, it constantly amazes me that
someone with such a tenuous grip on the English language has such an eye for coding. This is more praise than criticism I'll admit.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:33, Reply)
It's makes more sense to me, code, rather than english.
Take this just as a brief example

"Jane has a cat, the cat was painted red. She threw it into a mirror until the mirror smashed"

// This is already created before this point normally
$mirror = new Object();
$cat = new Cat();
$jane = new User();
// This is the only bit I'd have to do really
while($user -> action('throw', array($cat,$mirror) ) !== $mirror->get('integraty') {
$mirror->set('integraty', 'smashed');
}

So with that, it'll tell the user to perform the action 'throw' the 'cat' into the 'mirror' until the mirror's var 'integraty' is smashed.... in this case, it would do it the once.

..... That doesn't quite make sense, but my brain deffo sees code better than english.

What I'm currently working on at work is 7gb worth of objects, views and stuff, so most of it is already written, but I have to find out exactly where it is, and make sure I don't over-write it. But in the same way if this was writting in english, I would have to find out who jane is, what a cat is and what a mirror is. In english, it's ovbouse what a mirror and cat is, and to me it is in code too, 'cus I can read it and know where to look to find it (almost like knowing the page numbers that describe the jane/mirror/cat).
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:44, Reply)
It sure impresses me.

(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:46, Reply)
The MVC stuff you're learning down there is seriously comercial'able stuff.
CodeIgnitor might be a better way to go about it though, you won't have to re-learn a lot, just a few core functions. I managed to learn the base of it inside a few days... it sounds like you wouldn't be too far off from me if you're already doing OOP.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 19:01, Reply)
The sollution is using something called a "Real Escape String".
This puts a slash before the ' (so it would look like this

$sql = "SELECT * FROM users WHERE (username='admin') AND (password = '/') OR (/'1/' = /'1');";

So it would be looking for a password called ') OR ('1' = '1, and therefore wouldn't match up in the database, not return a row, and the page will say "Incorrect combination".
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:24, Reply)
Ah, the old Real Escape String escape.
*shakes head* *lights pipe* Classic.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:31, Reply)
If you wanna get into this sort of things in a comercially viable way, learn and use this....
codeigniter.com/

Almost _every_ job I applied for said that was a major factor. Another one to learn is something called jQuery for javascript. Both are amazing tools, I've built stuff inside days which would have taken months without it.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:34, Reply)
I'm struggling to get my head around ModX at the moment
I think a sojourn into constructing PHP apps is a little out of my comfort zone =o)
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:36, Reply)
I just googled ModX, it's almost identical, in the respect that it's an MVC PHP system, but it looks more complicated.
They both use ActiveRecord syntax for database stuff though, which is cool.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:46, Reply)
Quick, someone start a new thread.
And maybe a question.
(, Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:32, Reply)

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