I didn't know you used to be a drug addict.

( magnum, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:08, archived)

when I was 16/17
thanks to NA and kind parents I managed to get through it, I'm the model ex addict and I've got 8 clean years to prove it, i still go to meetings and counsel young addicts
( SickRik float like a camembert sting like a brie, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:10, archived)

oh and the usual
no heroin, luckily. The slippery slope starts at weed and it's a downhill spiral
( SickRik float like a camembert sting like a brie, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:11, archived)

you are quite clearly an idiot
keep up the good work, nonce
( Azra3l Lubrication Persuasion and Brute Force ™, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:14, archived)

He's not an idiot.
Think about it. He's "counselling" young addicts. They're young. And they're vulnerable.

He's one clever nonce.
( stuj (^(^;;^)^) GO TEAM SPIDERS!(^(^;;^)^), Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:17, archived)

wahey
BY THE WAY I'M NOT ADVOCATING IT BUT group therapy is the easiest place to pull but GOD DAMN do you regret it after
( SickRik float like a camembert sting like a brie, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:18, archived)

I'm reading this as 'someone once sold me some speed and my mum found out'

( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:14, archived)

This is the first time I've laughed out loud at /talk for a long time.
Thanks.
( Aardvark and so at last, I understood, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:15, archived)

thats pretty much what i figured as well.
is it possible to be addicted to aspirin?
( Azra3l Lubrication Persuasion and Brute Force ™, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:15, archived)

come on guys I'm giving some honesty here
OH I JUST REMEMBERED THIS IS /TALK

I MEAN OMG TITS/SNAKES/ANTLER/OMGJMG/GAAAY
( SickRik float like a camembert sting like a brie, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:17, archived)

Why not come out of the closet, while you're in the mood.

( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:18, archived)

I hope that you're not suggesting that..
..a man with a large collection of hair care products who regualrly feels compelled to inform us of which girls he REALLY, REALLY LIKES is hiding something.
( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:21, archived)

OMG HE IS PATRICK FUCKING BATEMAN!
Without the homicidal tendencies.
( Maffers I flow kinda strange like Spina Bifida footprints, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:22, archived)

without?

( SickRik float like a camembert sting like a brie, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:22, archived)

Yes,

( Maffers I flow kinda strange like Spina Bifida footprints, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:25, archived)

My mate went through NA and a few rehab programs
he's now bitterly against the 12 steps and sees NA attendees as brainwashed cult victims. But at least he's off the smack.
( Grrrmachine the indifference engine, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:18, archived)

i can honestly undersdtand that
it's a very preachy way of doing it, and people that are successes in it can be very condescending. it worked for me though and I'm indebted to them forever because of it
( SickRik float like a camembert sting like a brie, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:21, archived)

www.blamedenial.co.uk. That was his rant.
( Grrrmachine the indifference engine, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:32, archived)

he looks like he had a bad experience of it
I met some great people through it but to be honest the best thing i ever did was leave this awful country for 7 years, that was my "12 steps"
( SickRik float like a camembert sting like a brie, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:35, archived)

if you share anything personal on a cynical internet chatroom and expect it to be taken seriously...
Halfway across the river, the frog suddenly felt a sharp sting in his back and, out of the corner of his eye, saw the scorpion remove his stinger from the frog's back. A deadening numbness began to creep into his limbs.

"You fool!" croaked the frog, "Now we shall both die! Why on earth did you do that?"

The scorpion shrugged, and did a little jig on the drownings frog's back.

"I could not help myself. It is my nature."
(hot white cum, YEAH! i will show you 0wnage in a handful of posts, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:20, archived)

I KNOW!

( SickRik float like a camembert sting like a brie, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:21, archived)

If the frog could swim across on his own
I don't remember why he needed the scorpion anyway
( Grrrmachine the indifference engine, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:21, archived)

allaboutfrogs.org ALL YOUR FROGGY NEEDS
allaboutfrogs.org/stories/scorpion.html
(hot white cum, YEAH! i will show you 0wnage in a handful of posts, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:22, archived)

oh, out of niceness
gullible frog cunt
( Grrrmachine the indifference engine, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:25, archived)

Yeah. Fuck him.
He deserved to get stung.
Stupid frog.
( stuj (^(^;;^)^) GO TEAM SPIDERS!(^(^;;^)^), Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:29, archived)

Those story's are ribbeting

( Bobson I who milks the milkmen?, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:28, archived)

You should have heard the one he toad yesterday.

( Aardvark and so at last, I understood, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:30, archived)

whoa there

(hot white cum, YEAH! i will show you 0wnage in a handful of posts, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:31, archived)

Yeah, or there'll be newt elling where it will end.

( stuj (^(^;;^)^) GO TEAM SPIDERS!(^(^;;^)^), Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:35, archived)

not at all..
you are just a fucking idiot. go on then. spill. what were you addicted to? lemsip?

think carefully before you answer tho, i smoked my first spliff when i was 11. first coke at 13, by the time i was 14 i had a 3 gram a day speed habit. at one point i was smoking 3 ounces of skunk a month, and my record for acid is 8 black microdots in 6 hours.

in all that time, i never needed therapy. never needed NA, never hurt anyone, never stole to feed my habits and NEVER BECAME A WHINY LITTLE ORANGE TOSSER LIKE YOU.

BRING ON THE LEMSIp TANGOMAN!!
( Azra3l Lubrication Persuasion and Brute Force ™, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:23, archived)

This isn't a competition for who's the biggest dick dear

( Pickle Fairy is clumsily dancing away this fear, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:24, archived)

i would win that hands down.. *grin*
i know, i just hate the whole "drugs are bad, m'kay" culture that most ex NA members have. its bollocks, drugs are loads of fucking fun if you are not an idiot who doesnt do his homework first :D
( Azra3l Lubrication Persuasion and Brute Force ™, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:28, archived)

...Oddly enough, your old estate was on Children in Need :P

( KersaI Missive Free Michael Shields! with Monday's Liverpool Echo, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:29, archived)

i am not surprised in the slightest..

( Azra3l Lubrication Persuasion and Brute Force ™, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:34, archived)

Some boy was saying IT'S SHIT BUT CHILDREN IN NEED MAKES IT SO I DON'T HAVE TO PIMP MY SISTER, etc

( KersaI Missive Free Michael Shields! with Monday's Liverpool Echo, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:38, archived)

I didn't know you had a sister Az.

( TFD is sporting this season's finest necropants, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:40, archived)

to be fair
at the time, i didnt know she was my sister..
( Azra3l Lubrication Persuasion and Brute Force ™, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:41, archived)

i was that idiot
good days though, things were pretty random
( SickRik float like a camembert sting like a brie, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:30, archived)

^This.
Hard.
( stuj (^(^;;^)^) GO TEAM SPIDERS!(^(^;;^)^), Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:30, archived)

but to claim "i've done loads of drugs and never experienced any issues, therefore everyone who has had problems with drugs are whingers"
is a fairly misjudged opinion
(hot white cum, YEAH! i will show you 0wnage in a handful of posts, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:31, archived)

yep.
but i only have the experience of me and my friends to go by. all of which have similar stories to myself, and none of which turned out to be orange faced nonces..

go figure..
( Azra3l Lubrication Persuasion and Brute Force ™, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:36, archived)

i think you're confusing the issue of addiction with anger at an internet stranger.
I mean, i wouldn't admit addiction on b3ta and not expect to get mocked for it but by the same token i wouldn't expect an adult to actually make a post going "GOD LOOK AT ALL THESE DRUGS I'VE TAKEN"
(hot white cum, YEAH! i will show you 0wnage in a handful of posts, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:39, archived)

I think Az is pointing out that he managed to deal with the issue without NA,
not a 'ooh look how hardcore I am'.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:41, archived)

ta.

( Azra3l Lubrication Persuasion and Brute Force ™, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:41, archived)

i'm not really sure what this supposed problem with NA is
is it not manly to get help from an outside agency for a problem now?
(hot white cum, YEAH! i will show you 0wnage in a handful of posts, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:43, archived)

I've become addicted to Piriton
..or do i mean that I'm dependant on it ?
( turb0t, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:35, archived)

I used to be a drag addict.
I still crave that smell of men's aftershave and the feel of having stubble implanted... mmm tingly.
( TFD is sporting this season's finest necropants, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:38, archived)

*looks thoughtful for a minute*

( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:41, archived)

just because it's fun,
doesn't mean it's a good idea. I prefer to get my enjoyment out of real life, rather than chemically fooling my brain into thinking things are brilliant.
But that's just me. You do as you like.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:40, archived)

hang on there now, just because your drug use never became a problem for you
doesn't mean it's the same for everyone by any means
(hot white cum, YEAH! i will show you 0wnage in a handful of posts, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:24, archived)

everyone is different
and some people do have amazing willpower and i admire them for that

i come from a family of addicts and have an addictive personality. Now my drugs are gambling and women and I drink far too much. but they're nowhere near as bad and they don't make me hurt people
( SickRik float like a camembert sting like a brie, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:26, archived)

I struggle a little with the gambling :/

( TY&GN, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:34, archived)

tenner says you'll never stop

( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:35, archived)

No point taking that bet
Cos I won't :P

and yes, I get it, of course
( TY&GN, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:38, archived)

I bet you dont.

( turb0t, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:36, archived)

this

( icklepeach *relurks*, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:26, archived)

You are dead cool though.
I once sniffed a permanent marker man... Check me out
( TY&GN, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:24, archived)

did you ever progress on to tippex ?

( turb0t, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:38, archived)

i do love you azrael
and with me it was a general problem, though I was a bit older.
I never stole to feed my habits, for me it was practically free. NA helped me

full stop

x
( SickRik float like a camembert sting like a brie, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:24, archived)

Have you ever fitted a bathroom while on acid?

( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:28, archived)

Seriously, is this turning into a competition?

( TY&GN, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:28, archived)

Drugz r kool

( Pickle Fairy is clumsily dancing away this fear, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:29, archived)

Just wondering.
I've done most of my best bits of programming while pissed off my face, including my 3rd year degree project.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:29, archived)

Nice.

( TY&GN, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:30, archived)

The viva interview was funny.
The examiner was like "...so why are all your variables named after fish?"
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:32, archived)

nah.
but i have done more than a few shifts in the operating theatre while still off my face*

*not big or clever
( Azra3l Lubrication Persuasion and Brute Force ™, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:30, archived)

not big or clever
actually quite cuntish

Fucking hell, seriously?
( TY&GN, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:32, archived)

which hospital do i need to avoid ?

( turb0t, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:40, archived)

it /was/ UCH
but i havent dont hospital work for 3 years +
( Azra3l Lubrication Persuasion and Brute Force ™, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:43, archived)

You sicken me
There are days when I wake up, and see the sun shining through the weak blue sky, and I feel happy and refreshed and vitalised by the coming day. And then there are days when I see posts like this and realise that out in that terribly beautiful world are patronising, heartless, unsympathetic oneupmen like you, who trivialise the achievements of others, piss in the face of the individual's triumph, and lash scorn on all that makes each meek little individual his own little hero. I hope your heart is stifled by your own bile, you revolting little urchin.
( Grrrmachine the indifference engine, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:30, archived)

The angry voice of reason

( Cap'n Tallbeard, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:33, archived)

holy shit, i just read this
top marks
(hot white cum, YEAH! i will show you 0wnage in a handful of posts, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:36, archived)

I LOVE YOU TOO DUDE!

( Azra3l Lubrication Persuasion and Brute Force ™, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:36, archived)

Or, and I'm just raising this as a possibility here
he sees SikRik's post as an attempt to glorify a minor psychological crutch, which in turn undermines the achievement of anyone who has struggled with a serious addiction.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:39, archived)

Well yes, that's how I read it.
Hmmmm, you boys, so silly.
( TFD is sporting this season's finest necropants, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:41, archived)

i'd be inclined to agree with this but for one thing
b3ta.com/talk/5650723
(hot white cum, YEAH! i will show you 0wnage in a handful of posts, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:41, archived)

Az is a massive troll.
Everyone knows that, it doesn't mean he doesn't have a point half of the time.
( TFD is sporting this season's finest necropants, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:43, archived)

wow seriously this is the saddest post on the forum for a long while

( Barry Chuckle III - the troll with a soul., Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:30, archived)

would you prefer me to shout yehaaw
and shoot a squirrel?
( Azra3l Lubrication Persuasion and Brute Force ™, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:33, archived)

i don't know
i'd probably prefer that to tedious drug bragging to be honest
( Barry Chuckle III - the troll with a soul., Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:37, archived)

What?
It's brilliant, it's the best way to work out how cool you are!
( TY&GN, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:33, archived)

Having met Az, I can honestly say that he is not trying to make himself look cool.

( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:36, archived)

That said, he's making himself out as a bit of a cock.
It seems to be more about bragging than anything else.
( TY&GN, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:40, archived)

Then you're being a fuckwit.
Read his post again. It's not 'look at me I'm cool', it's 'look at me, I'm still here and functional and I had it worse than you'.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:43, archived)

so rather than making a look at me post, he's merely rubbishing how someone dealt with a problem they considered serious enough to get help for

(hot white cum, YEAH! i will show you 0wnage in a handful of posts, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:47, archived)

damn, i made myself out to be a bit of a cock in one post
out of over 12 thousand.. you manage it a couple of times a day. i am clearly going to have to up my game a little..
( Azra3l Lubrication Persuasion and Brute Force ™, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:46, archived)

This.

( well, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:33, archived)

Yeah, but when I was 8 years old I was snorting heroin
and did speed when I was in the 4+, I was injecting 9 kilos a year of the stuff, so yeah, bow down to me
( moohalaa, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:35, archived)

I once ate an entire labrador

( SickRik float like a camembert sting like a brie, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:38, archived)

Yeah but I ate an elephant
ha ha, yeah, cunt, *pisses on your achievments*
( moohalaa, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:40, archived)

I only managed a small rabbit
but I made sure it was high on heroin first...

I must have ingested some, cos I got so, like, trippy after I ate it
( TY&GN, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:42, archived)

where the hell
did you find enough southern fried coating?
( Azra3l Lubrication Persuasion and Brute Force ™, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:57, archived)

was it a male or a female labrador ?

( turb0t, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:43, archived)

If you did NA, then you would know addiction is addiction.
It doesn't matter if you're on Crack, Sex, Gambling or pescription/OTCs.

Granted, some are harder than others to cut, but it's still the same thing.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:42, archived)

NOw I blame Rotating Wobbly Hat for making me come on the talkboard
But you haven't done anything unless you've stripped out your first house due to heroin at forteen. It's like My Little Antiques Roadshow!
( riverghost servicing your mum since, Tue 18 Nov 2008, 20:31, archived)

Yes.
Most addicts chew them.
( Maffers I flow kinda strange like Spina Bifida footprints, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:18, archived)

+ aspirin crushed up and I thought it was
I was OFF my FACE MAN!
( Maffers I flow kinda strange like Spina Bifida footprints, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:18, archived)

I know loads of people who take weed who never take anything else.
I thought the "slippery slope" argument is discredited nonsense from 1950s public education films. Although I guess some people who do harder stuff smoked weed before that at some point, maybe.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:17, archived)

You know when they talked about that snortable "party dust" shit on the news
and they said it would make people want to take cocaine?
Does that mean that people who inject this new tanning drug will want to do heroin? No, what a load of bollocks
( TY&GN, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:19, archived)

I dunno
*heard the interviews with some of the people who took it*
( Pickle Fairy is clumsily dancing away this fear, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:20, archived)

The tan thing?

( TY&GN, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:22, archived)

Yes

( Pickle Fairy is clumsily dancing away this fear, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:22, archived)

no it's true pretty much
a group of friends and i started doing loads of weed when we were about 14 and it lead to worse things. I was in acting circles so seemed to have an endless supply of whatever i pretty much wanted from pervy old directors that wanted my tight young twink ass WHICH I NEVER RECIPRICATED THANK YOU


most of the young addicts I know of started with weed
( SickRik float like a camembert sting like a brie, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:20, archived)

Just because they did weed first,
doesn't mean the weed "led to" the rest. It's just the whole general lifestyle thing, by the looks of it. I'll bet most of them actually started on rusks, before moving onto Angel Delight. And THEN weed.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:22, archived)

fair point
but marijuana is a dangerous and addictive grug

and it makes you lazy

and stupid
( SickRik float like a camembert sting like a brie, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:23, archived)

It's not that addictive,
or that dangerous. Not compared to tobacco, anyway. I've done it a few times. I just think it's crap.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:25, archived)

All of this

( Cap'n Tallbeard, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:29, archived)

Only if you're a twat

( Pickle Fairy is clumsily dancing away this fear, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:25, archived)

I do agree with this

( TY&GN, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:29, archived)

My ex went off his head on weed.
He just became psychotic and ended up losing his house, job, motorbike, everything. I'm not saying it was just the weed and he would probably have become addicted to something else because it was in his nature, but I certainly don't believe weed is harmless any more.
( The Cat's Mother Not a People Person., Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:29, archived)

Not harmless no,
but you'd have to do a hell of a lot of it to get to that stage.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:31, archived)

He did.
That's why I said it could have been anything. The point is that he thought weed was OK as it wasn't as bad for you as alcohol.
( The Cat's Mother Not a People Person., Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:33, archived)

Alcohol can be a terrible thing though

( Pickle Fairy is clumsily dancing away this fear, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:35, archived)

it's far more likely to cause irreperable damage to the liver than is weed,
but not quite so likely to make you a long-term mental.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:37, archived)

I'm more comfortable with stoners than I am with heavy drinkers.

( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:37, archived)

This

( Pickle Fairy is clumsily dancing away this fear, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:40, archived)

Oh
be careful. You know what'll happen if you say things like this...
( Blue Star was working part time at the 5 and Dime, Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:41, archived)

I know.
My sons' father was an alcoholic. That's no fun either.
( The Cat's Mother Not a People Person., Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:40, archived)

This.
Or you have to be pre-disposed to mental disorders and addiction.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:35, archived)

I think he was.
His grandfather blew his head off with a gun so I suspect there was something in the family. Not that any of them would have admitted it.
( The Cat's Mother Not a People Person., Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:41, archived)

No. It's been proven as complete and utter bollocks.
The only fuckwits that still pretend to believe it are the media, MPs and do-gooders with vested interests in keeping the lie going.
( stuj (^(^;;^)^) GO TEAM SPIDERS!(^(^;;^)^), Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:24, archived)