It's things like
this which make me want to start watching rugby. What's the criteria for supporting a rugby team?
I'm fine with football, you just shout and swear a lot while drinking Stella and beating people up for wearing a different colour sweater to you.
( Druid, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:36, archived)

The BBC's video player crashes my browser 9 times out of 10.
I've tried using IE for when I want to use iPlayer but that doesn't help.
( Master Of Turnips. Only gays and morons believe in ghosts., Mon 18 May 2009, 20:37, archived)

Also: reasons german footballers are harder than any pansy rugby player
b3ta.com/talk/6158587
( Master Of Turnips. Only gays and morons believe in ghosts., Mon 18 May 2009, 20:39, archived)

tried updating to the latest version of flash?
if not I'll send a bug report in.
( MrA, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:40, archived)

yup, everything is right up to date.
It's only the iplayer on the entire internet that does it.

The BBC delivery manager for downloading BBC stuff crashes it too
( Master Of Turnips. Only gays and morons believe in ghosts., Mon 18 May 2009, 20:41, archived)

it appears to have no problems on my obscure Linux browser,
if that helps.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:41, archived)

any more smug
and i swear i'll install vista when you're not looking
( spacefish bong!, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:46, archived)

It's not browsers,
I've tried several. I don't know what it is.
( Master Of Turnips. Only gays and morons believe in ghosts., Mon 18 May 2009, 20:46, archived)

what browser are you packing?

( MrA, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:41, archived)

i'm guessing netscape navigator 1, no offence
forum banter, great times
( mongychops, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:43, archived)

Newest firefox, upgraded everytime there's an upgrade.
It's been going on for ages.
( Master Of Turnips. Only gays and morons believe in ghosts., Mon 18 May 2009, 20:45, archived)

hmm, god I hate firefox at the mo
its a bag of shit getting. Crashing all the time, grr. I would try chrome, see if thats better? (thought the beeb should fix it)
( MrA, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:48, archived)

It happens with IE too.
What does the iPlayer use? Just flash?
( Master Of Turnips. Only gays and morons believe in ghosts., Mon 18 May 2009, 20:49, archived)

flash and a javascript library to load the flash
Its a pretty robust bit of kit and I would suggest it might be something on your end. Like the version of flash.
( MrA, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:51, archived)

reinstall the whole world

( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:49, archived)

I don't have a Moon Girl Technologies back up,
if I reinstall everything you'll have to go.
( Master Of Turnips. Only gays and morons believe in ghosts., Mon 18 May 2009, 20:50, archived)

i belive she is plug and play, no offence, forum banter
good times
( mongychops, Mon 18 May 2009, 21:02, archived)

I like this

( Master Of Turnips. Only gays and morons believe in ghosts., Mon 18 May 2009, 21:04, archived)

haha
*fives*
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 18 May 2009, 21:05, archived)

they're doing some maintenance today

(PsychoChomp, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:44, archived)

It's every day
since just after the olympics, no matter what I do to my computer.

It works on my netbook :(
( Master Of Turnips. Only gays and morons believe in ghosts., Mon 18 May 2009, 20:45, archived)

Daft as it sounds
Why not just watch it on the netbook?
( jim_bob can herd cats., Mon 18 May 2009, 20:50, archived)

19" widescreen agains 8.9" screen for one.
Surround sound rather than headphones for another.

Also, without rejigging it (which I haven't done yet) you get choppy playback for full screen for embedded players.
( Master Of Turnips. Only gays and morons believe in ghosts., Mon 18 May 2009, 20:51, archived)

See that bloke on the left?
that's what's wrong with football
( Grrrmachine the indifference engine, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:37, archived)

Fucking hell
This is why Rangers suck.
( Pickle Fairy is clumsily dancing away this fear, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:38, archived)

Rangers suck. Scottish Football sucks.
( The Doveston haunted by the memory of his own amnesia, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:40, archived)

Scottish
( Mykeyboy A massive, salty filing cabinet, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:42, archived)

I concur.
Cricket is all!
( The Doveston haunted by the memory of his own amnesia, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:44, archived)

Cricket is awful shite

( Derpasaurus DOG FARTS, Mon 18 May 2009, 21:04, archived)

tish Football land
( Master Of Turnips. Only gays and morons believe in ghosts., Mon 18 May 2009, 21:05, archived)

i love the way the dude who got sent off just went so calmly
he must be some kind of buddhist, i would have been raging at that point
( spacefish bong!, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:55, archived)

If they make too much of a fuss,
they get extra maths to do as well.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:59, archived)

OH OH! YOU SHOULD BE A BULLS SUPPORTER LIKE MOI!

( Mrs Sp@m, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:38, archived)

! RA STEWART
( Grrrmachine the indifference engine, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:39, archived)

I really should!
How are you, Sexy?
( Druid, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:46, archived)

we did this conversation earlier today.

( WormuIus, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:38, archived)

what was the answer

( glued eel /questions/questionsyoudliketoask/post1648081, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:40, archived)

JMG accused me of having repressed homoerotic feelings

( Anthropos Was making beer on, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:42, archived)

How should you act then?

( Druid, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:47, archived)

i don't support a rugby team so i can not assist you, sorry, no offence
great
( mongychops, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:39, archived)

He's a right proper cunt

( Blue Star was working part time at the 5 and Dime, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:39, archived)

I can't play that media
I'm assuming from the still shot it was some kind of end of match slow dance with each others erections hidden by pressing it into the other
( glued eel /questions/questionsyoudliketoask/post1648081, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:39, archived)

You're pretty much there.
And so am I.
( Druid, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:48, archived)

I don't really do rugby, sorry Eyebrow.

( jim_bob can herd cats., Mon 18 May 2009, 20:39, archived)

I find it a lot more difficult to get excited about rugby than football.
But it's a lot easier to get drinks bought for you in a rugby pub than a football pub.

Swings and roundabouts, eh.
( LimeyTreat Bitch. Lover. Child. Mother. Sinner. Saint., Mon 18 May 2009, 20:40, archived)

It's a bit like that,
but you have to drink Tennents instead.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:40, archived)

Or Guinness.

( Anthropos Was making beer on, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:58, archived)

Although I got abuse for it earlier...
I don't like football. I'm a rugby man.

Criteria for rugby support are pretty broad. Choose the team that is local to you, drink real beer and have banter rather than fights with supporters of the opposite team.
( Anthropos Was making beer on, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:41, archived)

Ummm
are we in 1985? I haven't been to a football match that there's been any violence at for about 15 years.
( wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:44, archived)

Ummm
are we in 2000?
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:44, archived)

Operative word being "about"
pedant.
( wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:47, archived)

"24 is about 15."
*writes this down*
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:48, archived)

Are you always this good at making conversation?

( wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:49, archived)

About this good.

( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:50, archived)

Hahaha
nice.
( wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:50, archived)

would you like to come to wembly with me for the division one play off final, millwall end? no offence
great times
( mongychops, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:45, archived)

I've been to see Millwall several times
far too many police/stewards/cameras about for any trouble. I'm sure it still goes on occasionally...
( wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:48, archived)

the ticket allocation for the away game at leeds was funny, or not, no offence,
top times
( mongychops, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:52, archived)

Disabled supporters only?

( wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:55, archived)

1000 tickets, to be collected from the police just outside leeds at a service station and then escorted to the ground and out again, a convoy if you like, or not, no offence
great
( mongychops, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:57, archived)

You going on Saturday, then?

( wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Mon 18 May 2009, 21:03, archived)

i'm not sure, i could have tickets but i'm not a millwall fan and i think that is a bit poor, no offence
great
( mongychops, Mon 18 May 2009, 21:08, archived)

So pretty much like the proper criteria for football support
for the majority of fans?
( Jobe, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:45, archived)

Very possibly.
I really don't know much about football though. Having lived just down the road from Fratton Park for 3 years though I saw more fights than I have at rugby matches over the years.

Mind you that is Fratton Park, i'm told it is one of the rougher ones.
( Anthropos Was making beer on, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:55, archived)

Ah
it is a bit of a timewarp down there.
( wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:57, archived)

Maybe it has coloured my view of 'the beautiful game'

( Anthropos Was making beer on, Mon 18 May 2009, 21:00, archived)

cor, it's gone all wrestling
there'll be bouncing heads off the goalposts next, and mid-match announcements that someone is in league with the forces of darkness
( spacefish bong!, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:41, archived)

or in union with them

( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:43, archived)

*taps nose*
*points*
( spacefish bong!, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:50, archived)

I'd LOVE to see some sort of bell that goes, whereupon
a group of wrestlers pile on the pitch and start pummelling the players.
( Druid, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:49, archived)

Being posh/from the North West
I think.
( wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Mon 18 May 2009, 20:41, archived)

The difference is,
Rugby players are animals on the pitch but gentlemen in the clubhouse. Footballers are supposed to be the opposite.
/edit - criteria for choosing a team? The one with the clubhouse within staggering distance of your house. There will be a lot of drinking.
( The Cat's Mother Not a People Person., Mon 18 May 2009, 20:54, archived)

Coventry play less than ten minutes' walk away.

( Druid, Mon 18 May 2009, 21:03, archived)

That is probably the right distance away.
You need to be able to crawl it if needs be. There will be some point it happens.
( Anthropos Was making beer on, Mon 18 May 2009, 21:07, archived)

That's your dilemma solved then.
It'll be a good half hour's walk after a match though. I spent many happy hours at St Neots rugby club when my kids were younger.
( The Cat's Mother Not a People Person., Mon 18 May 2009, 21:08, archived)

you are dead to me.

( WormuIus, Mon 18 May 2009, 21:19, archived)

You must have played rugby at school
It's character building. Besides they needed to be strong to carry their mum home.
( The Cat's Mother Not a People Person., Mon 18 May 2009, 21:24, archived)