Enough of that fucking paperclips
Andy Gray's been sacked for sexism, eh? Are YOU sexist? Or sexy?
(__, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:32, archived)

fuck this shit i'm going out

( mongychops, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:33, archived)

this is always pub o'clock you massive dramatiser

( rosalicious i fucking love youve been framed, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:33, archived)

nah, i'm peaking early

( mongychops, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:34, archived)

yer yer you'll be telling me you've 'just got in' next

( rosalicious i fucking love youve been framed, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:37, archived)

exactly, ta ta

( mongychops, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:37, archived)

ta la

( rosalicious i fucking love youve been framed, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:38, archived)

now these are the questions

( rosalicious i fucking love youve been framed, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:33, archived)

I'm not sure I'm either right now.

( Batsgirl, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:34, archived)

I'll be honest, I preferred paperclips

( broadsword now that's fresh, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:34, archived)

you would, you kinky bitch

( rosalicious i fucking love youve been framed, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:39, archived)

alright treacle

( broadsword now that's fresh, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:41, archived)

alright sauce

( rosalicious i fucking love youve been framed, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:44, archived)

Those two options aren't mutually exclusive.
Oh well, don't bother your massive little face about it.
( Dr Preference AjcuiVd289, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:35, archived)

i.imgur.com/rKkyZ.jpg
( mike woz ere 7442200 & 7696970 getter, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:37, archived)

I'm probably neither
Oh, and I'm not conviced I could fully explain the offside rule.
( Cactus 1 doesn't care what you think on, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:38, archived)

It's simple.
If the ball goes off the side of the pitch they have a throw in.
( Dr Preference AjcuiVd289, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:40, archived)

throw in side-line cut
( Spider Fucking Riviera got stiches for a knife wound for the first time, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:49, archived)

I don't think they discussing real sports.

( Dr Preference AjcuiVd289, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:50, archived)

All the more reason to try and wind them up.

( Spider Fucking Riviera got stiches for a knife wound for the first time, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:56, archived)

It's really not that difficult.
Andy Gray and Richard Keys were just basically being ignorant cunts. I imagine an important part of the application process for becoming a linesman is knowledge of the offside rule and saying that because you're female you won't understand it is a ridiculous cliche. It's lauded up on a pedestal for some reason. Knowledge of the offside rule isn't some kind of mystical power only certain people can wield. They're also incredibly quick to criticise the referees decisions before watching them replayed from several different angles and then deciding the referee was right in the first place. As far as I can tell, football punditry and football commentary exist solely for people to sit at home and disagree with which ever prick is talking shit.
( mike woz ere 7442200 & 7696970 getter, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:42, archived)

I'm sure it isn't but I've never had a reason to learn it.
As for a sports commentator saying something offensive while believing they are off air I suppose it's unprofessional, but I can't say I'm surprised or shocked.
( Cactus 1 doesn't care what you think on, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:55, archived)

It's easy
a player is in an offside position (and may not take an active part in the game) if he finds him or herself between the ball and the goal line, with one member of the opposing team between him or herself and the goal line and at least one member of the opposing team between him or herself and the ball; 'between' in this case being measured purely longitudinally along the pitch.
( Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:11, archived)

If a player is beyond the last defender when the ball is played forward, he is offside if he interferes with play.
Then there's a load of sub-clauses that exist so people can talk about it for hours.
( mike woz ere 7442200 & 7696970 getter, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:15, archived)

Such as if he was in his own half when the ball was played.

( Spider Fucking Riviera got stiches for a knife wound for the first time, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:19, archived)

Yeah and if the goalkeeper is behind play or the opposition kicks it to the opposite attacker and a load of other ridiculous caveats.
They basically never happen though but when they do I'd take the linesman's decision, male or female, before I listened to Andy Gray's 30 minute analysis of the incident.
( mike woz ere 7442200 & 7696970 getter, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:26, archived)

Aye, he's a fucking tit, good enough for him.

( Spider Fucking Riviera got stiches for a knife wound for the first time, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:32, archived)

There needs to be two players infront of the attacker to play him onside.
for fuck sake
( Ring Of Fire A petty, drooling belming butthurt retard., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 19:10, archived)

On the bright side, it means football is improving.
Only racism, xenophobia and homophobia to go.
(rnuk http://flickr.com/rnuk, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:00, archived)

I like to think the UK are leading the way in the first two at least.

( mike woz ere 7442200 & 7696970 getter, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:03, archived)

*throws banana*
QUE?
( wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:12, archived)

my view remains the same as it always has
fuck 'em if they can't take a joke
( cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:43, archived)

Bring back Paperclips!
Bring back Paperclips!
Bring back Paperclips!
Bring back Paperclips!
Bring back Paperclips!
Bring back Paperclips!
Bring back Paperclips!
Bring back Paperclips!
Bring back Paperclips!
(thediscokingpin, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:43, archived)

they should probably sack all of the loose women then etc

( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:44, archived)

i'm so sexist i won't enter a building unless all the women inside are wearing strap-ons

( Lightguy hail satan, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:47, archived)

Wait, what the hell?

( Frisbee TeaBoy, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:55, archived)

I can get away with being sexist
because women find me so adorable.
(rnuk http://flickr.com/rnuk, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:49, archived)

or aren't actually listening to you

(thediscokingpin, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:56, archived)

They're lost in my eyes.

(rnuk http://flickr.com/rnuk, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:58, archived)

what?
sorry i wasnt listening
(thediscokingpin, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:00, archived)

And yet you find yourself in my bed.

(rnuk http://flickr.com/rnuk, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:01, archived)

8(

(thediscokingpin, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:10, archived)

I thought they were generally repulsed?

( mike woz ere 7442200 & 7696970 getter, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:02, archived)

Only if Des Lynam recites poetry over the top

( wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:55, archived)

Hey you, how's tricks?

( Spider Fucking Riviera got stiches for a knife wound for the first time, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:57, archived)

Puking and shitting all day

( wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:13, archived)

Nasty shit.
Least you can rule out burger-van burger poisoning.
( Spider Fucking Riviera got stiches for a knife wound for the first time, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:23, archived)

I don't really see how it's possible not to be sexist.
Clothes shops are sexist. Toilet facilities are sexist. And unless the last few billion years of evolution magically comes undone and men start having babies, I suspect we're stuck with it.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:03, archived)

i think there is a difference between sexism and women being the ones who have babies

( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:14, archived)

YEAH

(__, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:16, archived)

Don't worry her pretty little head about it

( wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:18, archived)

I had this tag here that came on a pair of jeans from New Look,
I can't find it now I must have thrown it away, but it was astonishing. It was all like "Tee hee girly shopping party sparkle high heels and eyelashes" or somesuch, these are supposedly the sorts of things that run through a woman's head when she goes to buy a pair of jeans.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:22, archived)

no, those are the sort of things that they use to sell to certain types of women.
like how betting sites are either aimed at bored housewives or football thugs, like waitrose is aimed at middle class faaaamlies, like how all sorts of the same things are marketted in all sorts of different ways.
( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:26, archived)

some soup is marketted towards builders, some towards middle class families,
some towards some imagined upper classes, and it is all just soup.
( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:28, archived)

Yes, of course,
but this is why I mentioned clothes shops in particular to start with. Women's clothes shops, you see, market things to women, while men's clothes shops market things to men, and the reason different images work in either case is alarmingly simple. It is because men and women are different and it's pointless pretending otherwise. Feminists might like us to believe that this image of femininity is a conspiracy by the patriarchal social order devised to keep women in submission, but the thing about that is that it's bollocks.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:31, archived)

i think you are now confusing sexism
with marketing women things to women and men things to men.
( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:32, archived)

or feminism with the obvious fact that men and women are different.

( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:33, archived)

I rather more think I'm confusing feminism with the idea that men and women aren't different.
Apparently I'm letting the side down if I don't want a career, fuck that, that's a man's game.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:38, archived)

see now you are confusing feminism
with the idea that you would let the side down if you don't want a career, easy mistake.
( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:39, archived)

Yeah I'm always making that one.
It does strike me though that modern women are expected to live up to both sets of ideals somehow.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:40, archived)

i think you are confusing modern women with some idea of modern women now

( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:44, archived)

That is sexism to begin with,
"women things" and "men things" implicitly supposes that men and women are different.

How can I put this more directly.

Men and women are different. Marketing people know this fact and exploit it. And it works.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:36, archived)

now see, this is the crux.
you are confusing sexism with the fact that men and women are different.
( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:37, archived)

But to say that IS sexist,
or at least to act on it is, it necessitates different behaviour towards one and the other, in other words discrimination.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:39, archived)

i think you are confusing sexism with something else now

( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:43, archived)

I'm confusing it with discrimination on grounds of sex,
I don't know if I'm confusing confusion with something else now.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:44, archived)

i think you're confused.

( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:45, archived)

I had this tag that came on a pair of jeans from M&S,
it said "size 14 long boot cut". I think the style of labelling maybe says more about the store where the clothes are bought, than it does about the gender for whom they are designed.
( Batsgirl, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:29, archived)

i got some with the label
"not for fags, real men only"
( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:30, archived)

saw these in m&s, cunts must be taking the piss here
wtf is a tregging
( rosalicious i fucking love youve been framed, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:31, archived)

I dunno I thought jeggings was a silly enough word.

( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:32, archived)

crazy times

( rosalicious i fucking love youve been framed, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:35, archived)

Sounds like something filthily sexy.
'Ello Rose, how's tricks?
( Spider Fucking Riviera got stiches for a knife wound for the first time, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:34, archived)

in m&s?
a big lot of fucking doubtful mate
( rosalicious i fucking love youve been framed, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:37, archived)

I read it as S&M though.

( Spider Fucking Riviera got stiches for a knife wound for the first time, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:39, archived)

I'm not sure I'd like to speculate.

( Batsgirl, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:35, archived)

I'm thinking it's either tights crossed with leggings or trousers.
But think the first one is more likely.
( Spider Fucking Riviera got stiches for a knife wound for the first time, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:40, archived)

Are you suggesting homogenisation is the only way to remove discrimination?

( CowJam, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:58, archived)

YOU'RE a homogen

( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:59, archived)

Only for you, baby

( CowJam, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 19:13, archived)

I've been thinking of getting a forhead enlargement.

( postal ninja has Transmissible spongiform encephalopathies, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:25, archived)

im growing my eyebrows

( rosalicious i fucking love youve been framed, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:29, archived)

im going to have my nostrils re-flared

( cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:38, archived)

im having my tracking realigned

( rosalicious i fucking love youve been framed, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:46, archived)

Biros befores hoes

( cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:41, archived)