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# I have been learning about Schrodingers cat:
a short animation follows:


(Tabilda Been away a LONG time *grovels*, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:10, archived)
# yep thats about the sum of it
but I never understand why he had to perform the test when it was purely about a concept?

i.e. not knowing one way or another and never knowing.
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:12, archived)
# woo to the pic
Toasty did you receive my email?
(Legs 11 last got some loving on, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:13, archived)
# yes, there's a fairly big pile now that injury has slowed me down
so I will try and get round to you, but don't hold your breath too long!
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:14, archived)
# thanks anyway
have a nice day Toast
(Legs 11 last got some loving on, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:20, archived)
# if you we going to drop a cat in acid you want to watch wouldn't you?
i think that's the flaw in his theory.

/huntingdon life sciences blog
(I helped save b3ta! Thor_sonofodin has done things, terrible things on, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:14, archived)
# you do like trying to rub me up the wrong way don't you ;)
Just use that big barbed dildo like I told you.
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:16, archived)
# hehehe
sorry, it's not aimed directly at you.

and i couldn't hurt animals in a cruel way, killing for food, like bunnys, pheasents, etc...

that's fine by me, culling grey squiggles, not a problem, tis fine by me.

not a big fan of animal testing, even less vivisection.

all aprt from teh persian cat that comes into my garden and shits everywhere, he shall be getting a big blast with the super soaker next time i see him.
(I helped save b3ta! Thor_sonofodin has done things, terrible things on, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:31, archived)
# Huntingdon Life Sciences is actually a really clean place
except for the people outside.

In all seriousness though, while I agree testing cosmetics and things on rabbits is a waste of good mascara, the place does actually kill the wee beasties ina relatively humane way...before cutting their heads off with a big pair of teachers scissors.
(I helped save b3ta! M3rx likes the Asian ladies, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:20, archived)
# I would have no problems with testing of drugs and cosmetics
if it was done on humans and babies.

I fail to see how mankind has managed to decide we have a greater right to live than any other species on the planet.
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:22, archived)
# It's all about money
and while the corporations (who act all corporationey) have it, animals do not. Governments will grant licenses to companies to do that sort of thing in exchange for some healthy donations.
(I helped save b3ta! M3rx likes the Asian ladies, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:27, archived)
# Tell it to the stingrays
:P
(I helped save b3ta! Hamster Trippin' aka Mr. Titts, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:27, archived)
# Schrodingers kittens
yeah but don't look inside otherwise you might kill the poor little bugger (or maybe not....)
(spacebwoy Tonight, Matthew, I'm going to be with Jesus, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:14, archived)
# Thats the whole point.
The cat is in a state of quantum flux whilst the observer is ignorant of the outcome. By opening the box the observer collapses the quantum wave function through their interaction with the process, reducing it to one of two states, either alive or dead.

It's all about how until anything is interacted with, ie: observed, it is in an unfixed state.

AICMFP!
(I helped save b3ta! Yamon Benny Harvey. RIP., Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:33, archived)
# He didn't perform the experiment
it was a thought experiment. The outcome depends on the quantum probability of a radioactive isotope decaying or not. Or you could apply it to the location of a single electron or some other quantum uncertainty.

The cat is both alive and dead until it's measured. Because the isotope is both and neither decayed and intact until you check to see. Superposition of states until you collapse the wave function.

And stuff.
(I helped save b3ta! in vino veritas, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:31, archived)
# *asplodes*
Remind me never to talk to you whilst sober. :)
(I helped save b3ta! Hamster Trippin' aka Mr. Titts, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:32, archived)
# phew,
I thought that stupid science types may have actually tested it, missing the point of it being a concept and not a weekend project.
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:41, archived)
# Scientists are people too
they're (we're?) not all power-crazed cackling loons in lab coats.
(I helped save b3ta! in vino veritas, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:44, archived)
# SCEINCE :)
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:13, archived)
# I love this
lots
(Legs 11 last got some loving on, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:14, archived)
# I wish more door-to-door surveys were conducted by kittens.
(I helped save b3ta! Walrus Man Think hippy thoughts, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:15, archived)
# I'd buy everything they had to offer
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:17, archived)
# ^Most definitely
"Why yes, Mr Tiddles, I would love to purchase turtle insurance"
*pet pet*
(I helped save b3ta! Walrus Man Think hippy thoughts, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:20, archived)
# I swear in the last bit where the cat is walking away from the door
the other is having a cheeky stare at it's arsehole.
(I helped save b3ta! M3rx likes the Asian ladies, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:25, archived)
# Oh yeah?
;)
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:20, archived)
# thats very tempting
but I am put off by it being CafePress who I only hear bad things about quality wise.

Can anyone who has BOUGHT a genuine cafepress product advise me further on this view?

T-Shirts especially
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:24, archived)
# Yes
I have bought a mofaha tshirt and it's been fine. Washes well etc.
(I helped save b3ta! in vino veritas, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:35, archived)
# cool, thank you for you assistance and ta
:)
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:43, archived)
# Hooray!
I've not seen that in ages, and it's still as lovely as ever.
(I helped save b3ta! Matazone has new icons, but is keeping this one, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:15, archived)
# aw
he reminds me of the one of the telly! Very artistic.
(Tabilda Been away a LONG time *grovels*, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:16, archived)
# What one on the telly?
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:16, archived)
# there was a pencil drawn one
sorry cant remember which one though
(Tabilda Been away a LONG time *grovels*, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:18, archived)
# I love this
I need to wear my "yes, I is vere fluffey" tshirt more often!
(I helped save b3ta! in vino veritas, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:32, archived)
# This is one of the best things ever.
I showed this to a freind of mine a while back and now i get regular quotes :)
(I helped save b3ta! Lanc Weekend Trailer Park Supervisor, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:33, archived)
# cute
what i want to know is what happens to the acid?
(mt Justified and Ancient since, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:13, archived)
# you get to drink it as a special prize!
you can have ice in it though
(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:21, archived)
# Awww Puddy Tat...
...is Both Dead and Alive...
But not in a Zombie Way...

Errmmmm...

*rubs head*
(I helped save b3ta! Spenface ALWAYS hangs in the Buffalo Stance, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:13, archived)
# He forgot to open the tub of acid
And shake the chamber.

Other than that, yep, you've summarised it pretty well.
(I helped save b3ta! Walrus Man Think hippy thoughts, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:13, archived)
# Damn
i knew id forget something..!
(Tabilda Been away a LONG time *grovels*, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:15, archived)
# that Schrodinger!
I've had sex on his grave!
(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:15, archived)
# With his rotting corpse?
(I helped save b3ta! wefbhweiufhweiu party, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:18, archived)
# stuck my nob in his box
but couldn't know if he was still alive or not or somehting
(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:24, archived)
# V. nice
As long as the probability of the cat's wavefunction and therefore probablility of detection cannot reach outside of the steel chamber, which given that quantum mechanics postulates that everything has a probablility of detection anywhere at any time, is impossible, and consequently, erm, Schroedinger, errr.....

Bugger.
(scratchresistor is your mum..., Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:16, archived)
# oh dear
You are WAY beyond this board!
(Tabilda Been away a LONG time *grovels*, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:18, archived)
# Failed my physics degree...
Hence the trailing-offage...
(scratchresistor is your mum..., Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:21, archived)
#
oh dear bad luck, sounded convincing though!
(Tabilda Been away a LONG time *grovels*, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:23, archived)
# gave up on my chemistry degree
when it all went quantum. couldn't understand a word of it. ah well.
(I helped save b3ta! The Blue Aardvark Unavoidably detained by reality, Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:32, archived)
# I have a Ph.D. in Physics
and I have no comment on the subject.
I'm sick to death of it.
(I helped save b3ta! swaza I'm bad, I'm bad. You know it. I'm bad., Wed 13 Sep 2006, 17:32, archived)