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# Good Afternoon, folks! This is the front of an invite I'm designing:

Could you lovely folks tell me what you think of the rough design so far?
The Hall picture at the bottom is going to be changed thanks to Mr. Horrible!
And the text above it is just filler until the writers get their 'copy' to me. Cheers :)
(I helped save b3ta! CaroWallis, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:41, archived)
# Its all cool cept the big INVITATION...
could be so much more there i feel..

but what do i know
(tranCendenZ eXistenZ IS PAUSED! on, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:42, archived)
# Hrmm, the blank space bothered me too.
But a tip-top graphic designer told me it 'added an air of luxury'.
(I helped save b3ta! CaroWallis, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:43, archived)
# So does using the word 'decadance' but i dont tell people..
that space should be used for important info or something
(tranCendenZ eXistenZ IS PAUSED! on, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:45, archived)
# I think it needs to be more elegant. Try fading the purple block into the 2 side blocks
(I helped save b3ta! AutoPrawn is glad we're living in the future now, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:45, archived)
# I see it as 4 different patterns/pics going down the side
(tranCendenZ eXistenZ IS PAUSED! on, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:46, archived)
# I guess the word "Invitation" still needs to be there though
(I helped save b3ta! AutoPrawn is glad we're living in the future now, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:52, archived)
# depends, if its an email invie nope, but a paper one... then yeah
(tranCendenZ eXistenZ IS PAUSED! on, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:53, archived)
# do people that interested in wallpaper know about
Electronic M?
(I helped save b3ta! ivesb Highly specialised Clinical Physiologist crapbag, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:57, archived)
# Do they know about the outside world?
Or the wheel...
(tranCendenZ eXistenZ IS PAUSED! on, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:59, archived)
# *Narrows eyes*.
(I helped save b3ta! CaroWallis, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 16:00, archived)
# uhoh!
sorry ma'am
c'mon missethel, run!
*runs*
(I helped save b3ta! ivesb Highly specialised Clinical Physiologist crapbag, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 16:02, archived)
# *runs*
I love wall paper in actual fact, i have loads on my pc!
(tranCendenZ eXistenZ IS PAUSED! on, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 16:10, archived)
# A whatnow?
(I helped save b3ta! AutoPrawn is glad we're living in the future now, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:59, archived)
# never mind dear..
here, I bought your favorite pipe and slippers
(I helped save b3ta! ivesb Highly specialised Clinical Physiologist crapbag, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 16:01, archived)
# i dunno about that.
it always amazes me that people write c v at the top of c v's when it's bloody obvious what it is.
when was the last time you wrote letter at the top of one.
(I helped save b3ta! god save the queen making another unremarkable comeback, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:59, archived)
# Thats true
but I kinda figured in this case it was more for aesthetics.
(I helped save b3ta! AutoPrawn is glad we're living in the future now, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 16:01, archived)
# I sometimes write poem or story before naming things i guess..
(tranCendenZ eXistenZ IS PAUSED! on, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 16:02, archived)
# put some other wallpaper behind that too

and make the letters more curly
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:49, archived)
# I agree
Something like this William Morris font maybe;
www.paper-source.com/images/zoom/406056a.gif
(I helped save b3ta! fuscous, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:58, archived)
# Is it supposed to be a smooth purple gradient
or do the lines represent slightly differently shaded samples of wallpaper, all overlapping?

Actually, how about that, only with patterns?
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:56, archived)
# It's going to be smooth.
It's just banded because of optimising for you guys.
(I helped save b3ta! CaroWallis, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:57, archived)
# you DO love us!
(I helped save b3ta! ivesb Highly specialised Clinical Physiologist crapbag, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:58, archived)
# Of course I do!
*Hugs everyone who commented*.
(I helped save b3ta! CaroWallis, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 16:03, archived)
# Needs more swearing.
& goatse.
Hope this helps.
(I helped save b3ta! Sea Tramp the thinking woman's 8 Ace, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:43, archived)
# And squirriltits of course
(tranCendenZ eXistenZ IS PAUSED! on, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:43, archived)
# yep!
no self-respecting b3tard would go and look at wallpaper unless there was at least tub-girl . . .


(I helped save b3ta! Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - enjoying a post-meridian muncheon - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:44, archived)
# phew
i thought the redex I was getting was going to be something nasty.

but it was just your hat.
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:46, archived)
# yeah
MSN gropes is playing up


(I helped save b3ta! Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - enjoying a post-meridian muncheon - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:47, archived)
# MSN.. *gropes*
(tranCendenZ eXistenZ IS PAUSED! on, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:49, archived)
# You making something of it like!
(tranCendenZ eXistenZ IS PAUSED! on, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:56, archived)
# I think it needs a little less redex my dear
oooh there it is

Nice but you could do with making the text a little more legible

Either fade back the Wallpaper or use a heavier weight type or darker colour

reminds me of a poster I did at Uni

also I'm not a fan of stacked type, but that's my own preference
(I helped save b3ta! bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon., Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:43, archived)
# Noted! Thank you.
Not sure why it keeps redexing. Stupid MSN Groups, I reckon.
(I helped save b3ta! CaroWallis, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:45, archived)
# Yup, it's MSN.
Couple of people have mentioned it today.
(Bumsmells, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:48, archived)
# ^ this
Old folk have trouble reading things on patterned or similar coloured backgrounds.
(Pachey, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:50, archived)
# hey sexy pants
*squeezes*
(I helped save b3ta! bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon., Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:52, archived)
# Oooh, what was that for?
(Pachey, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:58, archived)
# This is true, and we are inviting several doddery old Bishops and the like.
(I helped save b3ta! CaroWallis, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:53, archived)
# Do the partially-sighted enjoy looking at wallpaper patterns?
Maybe it's a trippy experience.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:58, archived)
# I can read it perfectly well
and it seems reasonable to suppose that anybody who wants to come to this gig will be stimulated and excited by wallpaper patterns. Fading the pattern out seems a bit sadistic.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 16:00, archived)
# Hmm, I would question whether
one actually experiences wallpaper,
but other than that, quite good.

Oh, and the 'invitation' bit is too big/garish
(I helped save b3ta! The Legendary Pink Dot survived yet another, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:43, archived)
# Like I say, I made up a load of art-poofery text...
... just to fill the space until the copy comes in.
(I helped save b3ta! CaroWallis, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:46, archived)
# oops
sorry
(I helped save b3ta! The Legendary Pink Dot survived yet another, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:47, archived)
# No worries :P
(I helped save b3ta! CaroWallis, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:47, archived)
# Maybe a more elegant font for the text on the left?
(I helped save b3ta! cooler_king That's no moon!, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:44, archived)
# Text is a bit unreadable....
I'd make it either much much darker or much much lighter.

Otherwise, lully! Nicely done, stranger :)
(I helped save b3ta! SugarSpunSister Yeah, whatever, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:45, archived)
# Cheers m'dear.
And yes, I've been WAY too busy for b3ta! ;)
(I helped save b3ta! CaroWallis, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:49, archived)
# Am I invited?
can I print this out and turn up?
can I?
huh?

It's good. I think the bit on the left could be made more to do with wallpaper or something, but I'm all out of ideas at the mo

edit: actually, I would cut the left hand side bit off completely - but then I'm rather lazy
(I helped save b3ta! swaza I'm bad, I'm bad. You know it. I'm bad., Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:45, archived)
# Thanks for an idea, sweety!
And it's open to the public throughout May and June!
(I helped save b3ta! CaroWallis, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:47, archived)
# Hmmm yes
or make the letters on the left more curly
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:52, archived)
# Fucking hell
I had a mate used to live next door to that place.

The lilac bit on the left needs to be narrower. And less lilac. Otherwise, woo!.
(I helped save b3ta! Smallbrainfield, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:47, archived)
# I like it
as noted above, I'd fade out the wallpaper behind the text a bit, and maybe make the lettering for "invitation" a bit smaller
(I helped save b3ta! emvee cruor deo cruoris, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:47, archived)
# Cheers, Transformers-geek!
How's it going in the world of yourself?
(I helped save b3ta! CaroWallis, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:50, archived)
# ah, pretty good
I've been making flyers too - www.b3ta.com/board/6940059 - and I have absolutely zero work to do, so I'm on here 9-5 at the moment
(I helped save b3ta! emvee cruor deo cruoris, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:53, archived)
# hmmmmm, interesting.....
I'd use the left hand area with the text at 90 degrees, for starters.

And I'd probably go with a serif font for the main text area. Edit: as well as making it clearer on that 'flock' background. Might want to fade it down a touch.


Good FREE font site: www.dafont.com

Edit Edit: How about using the idea from the recent Xbox live ads with two different carpets blending together - that gives you quite a lot of potential variations on the wallpaper theme....

(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:47, archived)
# I heartily recommend that fonty website.
In fact it's about time I went to see if they've got anything new in.

/fontgeek

edit: aw, it seems to be down.
Oh, maybe not.
(I helped save b3ta! Kamikaze Stoat £4.09, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:52, archived)
# I don't know if it's just a file artifact,
but the gradient on the left seems a bit blocky.

Plus Doddington Hall is a bit silly. You should buy it and rename it something less silly.
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:48, archived)
# ^ this
Excellent plan, sir.
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:49, archived)
# The PS file is bloody huge, and I had to optimise to show you lot!
That's why it's gone all blocky. And yes, I would call it 'Wallis Manor' or 'The B3ta R3tr3at'.
(I helped save b3ta! CaroWallis, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:52, archived)
# *books room at the r3tr3at*
(tranCendenZ eXistenZ IS PAUSED! on, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:54, archived)
# It's what Curis and I would do if we won the lottery.
A huge mansion for talented types who wanted studios for music and for art etc.
(I helped save b3ta! CaroWallis, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:55, archived)
# Will there be punch and pie?
(tranCendenZ eXistenZ IS PAUSED! on, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 16:01, archived)
# We shall hire a super chef for all your bacon sarnie needs.
(I helped save b3ta! CaroWallis, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 16:02, archived)
# Yey!! i will pay cash for this service!
I wants ketchup as well or no deal...

*very hungry*
(tranCendenZ eXistenZ IS PAUSED! on, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 16:12, archived)
# oooh
I like the sound of the b3ta r3tr3at.

I'll marry you, buy it, and name it that.

Deal?
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:57, archived)
# *bids*
(tranCendenZ eXistenZ IS PAUSED! on, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:59, archived)
# Hmmmm... but I belong to another!
(I helped save b3ta! CaroWallis, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:59, archived)
# *tuts*
*withdraws interest in Doddington Hall*
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 16:02, archived)
# The text is a little difficult to read on that background... a little less contrast in it perhaps?
Not sure about that gradient either, especially if it's going to go bandy like that has.
(I helped save b3ta! Kamikaze Stoat £4.09, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:50, archived)
# OK, the complaints about font/wallpaper noted.
And the gradient will be as smooth as a babies bum on the real-deal.
(I helped save b3ta! CaroWallis, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:54, archived)
# Good show.
The flock wallpaper thing is very in at the moment for some reason.
(I helped save b3ta! Kamikaze Stoat £4.09, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:55, archived)
# It is, indeed. We have some lovely 17thC examples.
We are inviting Laurence Lewellyn Bowen and Jeff Banks :)
(I helped save b3ta! CaroWallis, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:56, archived)
# Do remember to pack the AK47 with the extra magazine, in that case.
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 16:07, archived)
# Make 4 copies of the text layer
change copies colour to a contrasting colour
offset copy 1 left a bit, 2right, 3 up, 4 down
put original text layer on top and merge all 5 layers
(I helped save b3ta! CanonCaliber A big bore, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 16:09, archived)
# i know nothing of these things, but as you've asked
i'm not so keen on the graduation of the lilac bit,( if it stays bandy), also how does the word invitation look with a change of orientation and fatter.also i take it the wallpaper is one that is featured in the show.

having said that it's lully.
(I helped save b3ta! god save the queen making another unremarkable comeback, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:56, archived)
# Awwww, thanks sweety!
- The lilac band will be smoooooooth.
- It looks silly if it's any other way than it is.
- Yes, it's one of the stars of the show!
(I helped save b3ta! CaroWallis, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 16:01, archived)
# then don't change a thing.
i knew you'd have tried all that stuff anyway.
(I helped save b3ta! god save the queen making another unremarkable comeback, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 16:06, archived)
# have you thought about maybe
putting the castle pic at the top so the sky fades out the top of the image. you could then do the panel on the left as a gradient that did a similar thing?

(I helped save b3ta! skivesagain is now no longer in Australia., Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:52, archived)
# WALLPAPER EXHIBITION?
A FUCKING WALLPAPER EXHIBITION - THATS IT IM GIVING UP DRUGS!
(I helped save b3ta! Zank Frappa Who let the lefties in?, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 15:57, archived)
# hmm..... just some ideas
- the text needs to be more readable (other/bigger font, darker color, or maybe an outline)

- replace the gradient under "invitation" with another color or an alpha'ed simple background, preferably in a color not the same as the text

- rotate the "invitation" text by 90°

- try to separate the different parts with thin (white) lines

- put a thick white border around the whole thing

- or play around with alpha/gradients to blend the pictures into each other or into the text

- alternatively, remove the left part and use the "invitation" text to separate the 2 pics in the middle (with blending maybe?)

------------
| text on |
| picture|
------------
INVITATION
------------
| text on |
| picture|
------------

or...
or...
or...
*asplodes*
(I helped save b3ta! pzyko Query failed., Wed 7 Mar 2007, 16:02, archived)
# All good ideas... I have noted them down :)
(I helped save b3ta! CaroWallis, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 16:06, archived)
# hire a graphic designer

(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 16:02, archived)
# Alas, we are on a limited budget...
... and Curis has a job to go to, so I won't pester him too much.
(I helped save b3ta! CaroWallis, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 16:04, archived)
# Send it to Fraser as next weeks image challenge
(I helped save b3ta! AutoPrawn is glad we're living in the future now, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 16:07, archived)
# I'd go with what barneybobs said :)


(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 16:22, archived)
# Headline needs more snap.
Try "Come to the Hanging"
(I helped save b3ta! edjogs Collared doves are shit., Wed 7 Mar 2007, 16:06, archived)
# or
"Well Hung"
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 16:09, archived)
# We did consider 'Well Hung'.
(Not a mind-piss as we considered this several weeks ago!)
(I helped save b3ta! CaroWallis, Wed 7 Mar 2007, 16:10, archived)