
also, not worth its own thread, the BBC missed a trick with the headline, but I bet the Daily Mail has it tomorrow


I quite like those, the variation in analogue stick rotations and button hammering works quite well I thought
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major critisim of the later tomb raiders.
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continue/ quit ?
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never mind maybe we can find you a bouncy ball to play with.
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..but I'm still not clear... is it like in Resident Evil 4 when you have to dodge the boulders? If so I agree it's annoying.
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But then again the only one I remember was Shenmue on the Dreamcast. And that game was awesome.
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*races forklifts*
*looks for sailors*
*plays hang-on*
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*looks for sailors*
*plays hang-on*

DO YOU KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND SOME THTHAAILORS
*buys drink from vending machine*
*smashes drink into face*
AHH. GOOD.
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*buys drink from vending machine*
*smashes drink into face*
AHH. GOOD.

"Hmm, sailors like to hang out in bars"
*DING DING*
(note: sailors like to hang out in bars)
I do actually like shenmue though
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*DING DING*
(note: sailors like to hang out in bars)
I do actually like shenmue though

don't play heaps of games though. I think there might have been a few cases of it in Twilight Princess.
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So I am saying Hi on his behalf
lol
:)
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lol
:)

or 'oooh!' as if he has just seen an open wound?
I hope the former :(
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I hope the former :(

this week: Mick Hucknall's Gaping Arsewound
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but since I've joined the music industry it's just become a nuisance."
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In the PSP game Syphon Filter: Logan's Shadow, they have these every now and then when you have to open a door or turn a wheel or connect a crane hook to something. You have to press a certain sequence of buttons or mash a particular one. They usually only last about 2 or 3 seconds.
Is that a Quick Time Event or are they something more annoying?
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Is that a Quick Time Event or are they something more annoying?

Thinking of Uncharted, you could be walking along a balcony, when suddenly it switches to something like a cutsequence, showing the balcony crumbling. A button symbol will appear on screenwhen you least expect it, and you have to press it. If you get it even SLIGHTLY wrong, you fall to your death and have to do the WHOLE FUCKING THING AGAIN.
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...I agree to a point. Badly done QTE will ruin an otherwise decent game (Fahrenheit I'm looking at you here)
Done well, they're a decent way of letting the player do some spectacular set piece type stuff that would be otherwise left to an uncontrollable cutscene. At least they're a bit interactive.
Serious post over! :)
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Done well, they're a decent way of letting the player do some spectacular set piece type stuff that would be otherwise left to an uncontrollable cutscene. At least they're a bit interactive.
Serious post over! :)

A fixed camera or fist person view are infinitely better than QTEs.
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It adds a touch of variety to the gameplay.
Overuse is a bad thing but that can be said for everything
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Overuse is a bad thing but that can be said for everything

...a fixed camera and/or first person camera would be rubbish for. Have a go at God of War, check out the boss fights. That's just the first example that springs to mind.
Like I said, we could replace all that with cutscenes if you wanted. The games would suffer for it though...
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Like I said, we could replace all that with cutscenes if you wanted. The games would suffer for it though...


...well, I worked on:
Airblade
Burnout 1&2
Brave
F1 2006
Currently working on Killzone 2 in sunny Amsterdam, yay :)
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Airblade
Burnout 1&2
Brave
F1 2006
Currently working on Killzone 2 in sunny Amsterdam, yay :)

air blade i haven't played but it reminds me off HyperBlade. anyone else play that?
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If you can't fit your epic scene-setting in without sacrificing gameplay then ditch it!
Shadow of the Colossus managed it, and that was a low-budget title!
QTEs are a tool of the lazy.
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Shadow of the Colossus managed it, and that was a low-budget title!
QTEs are a tool of the lazy.

It's your narrow minded approach to the genre that is holding this country back!
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QTEs take the skills that the player has picked up over the game, sh*ts all over them and then hinges success/failure on a series of random button presses, completely unrelated to the regular control method.
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it makes sense to me to have it remain in 'camera' and involve the player in some way, rather than make people suddenly feel that the character is out of their hands
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They managed it in the 16-bit era!
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i only really play rpgs from the late 90s so i don't really come up against these that often but if they're used well i don't see the problem. i like my games cinematic if they're not isometric
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I'm against designers using a crap way of presenting it.
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...I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. SotC only really has the one gameplay mechanic, and I found it terribly dull albeit pretty. I'm not really sure it was all that low-budget either, but I might be wrong!
All I'd say to finish up is that enough people enjoy well done QTE in games like God of War that I don't think they can all be wrong. Badly done ones that result in instant death or game breakage, yeah, they suck. But badly done anything sucks.
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All I'd say to finish up is that enough people enjoy well done QTE in games like God of War that I don't think they can all be wrong. Badly done ones that result in instant death or game breakage, yeah, they suck. But badly done anything sucks.

fist person view! Like they used for Star Wars: Revenge of the Fist?
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...on one side of the coin, it was genius, but at other times, there were some SERIOUS flaws.. (yes the QTE shit). Heres hoping hte next one due out in a while fixes that crap
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They help to create a more cinematic experience. And they're certainly preferable to completely non-interactive cut scenes.
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