Ah well since the threads are already hammering past...
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Forgive me for being a little bit off-message but:
Edit I may well do something alittle bit more positive later on but from a first glance through the website this was my overwhelming and depressing impression.
Edit I may well do something alittle bit more positive later on but from a first glance through the website this was my overwhelming and depressing impression.
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Vote Cynic
Is there a correlation between the lack of interest in modern politics, the dwindling of attention spans and the rise of Twitter? Answer only if you bothered to read this far.
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Wed 12 Aug 2009, 17:51,
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Oooh you big cynical cynic
with all your realistic outlooks....
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Wed 12 Aug 2009, 15:33,
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Hahahaha
*giggles*
Have you got your head in your hands right about now?
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Wed 12 Aug 2009, 15:34,
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Have you got your head in your hands right about now?
nah
critical debate is a good and healthy thing.
Anyway - these people aren't Virgin selling a credit card using an idea nicked from a Danny Wallace book.
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Wed 12 Aug 2009, 15:38,
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Anyway - these people aren't Virgin selling a credit card using an idea nicked from a Danny Wallace book.
Yeah sorry...
I didn't want to annoy the sponsors, I really didn't, but...
I totally sympathise with what they are trying to achieve, but I think they aren't going about it particularly effectively.
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Wed 12 Aug 2009, 15:35,
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I totally sympathise with what they are trying to achieve, but I think they aren't going about it particularly effectively.
Vague and muddled is all but mandatory for this sort of thing, it would seem.
If you can squeeze in some "populist", "ill-thought-out" and "wilfully and meretriciously divorced from reality", it'd help.
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Wed 12 Aug 2009, 15:35,
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It is a nice excuse to waft a placard about, though.
If you stay downwind from protestors on a hot day, you'll always stay cool.
True story.
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Wed 12 Aug 2009, 15:38,
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True story.
I'm have to be honest, I'm a little uncomfortable about b3ta getting involved in a political campaign.
I've checked the Vote For A Change website and it reads fairly neutrally as an electoral reform organization, but I have no idea who's behind it or what their personal agenda is.
"Electoral Reform" is one of those phrases, like "Change", that sounds refreshing and fair and overdue. But it's worth remembering that there are many types and variations of alternative voting systems, and every one of them has the potential to enhance one group's aims over others. I can't actually see what this site is proposing or who it would most directly benefit. And let's face it, anyone who would go to all the trouble these people have gone to must have some personal stake.
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Wed 12 Aug 2009, 15:38,
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"Electoral Reform" is one of those phrases, like "Change", that sounds refreshing and fair and overdue. But it's worth remembering that there are many types and variations of alternative voting systems, and every one of them has the potential to enhance one group's aims over others. I can't actually see what this site is proposing or who it would most directly benefit. And let's face it, anyone who would go to all the trouble these people have gone to must have some personal stake.
I'm slightly worried, too...
I detect a whiff of a slightly fluffier Taxpayers' Alliance.
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Wed 12 Aug 2009, 15:41,
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Felix, my real worry is that it's aliens.
Aliens full of mercury.
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Wed 12 Aug 2009, 15:43,
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I see here a nice list of well-meaning, fluffy, if naive people
voteforachange.co.uk/index.php/pages/our-supporters/
and Polly Toynbee. PR is a red herring, which makes it easier for small parties to get attention and harder for anybody to get anything done, but whatever. Vote Cubist.
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Wed 12 Aug 2009, 15:47,
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and Polly Toynbee. PR is a red herring, which makes it easier for small parties to get attention and harder for anybody to get anything done, but whatever. Vote Cubist.
that's Polly "I'm right, especially when I'm provably wrong" Toynbee, right?
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Wed 12 Aug 2009, 15:54,
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they want a referendum about reforming parliament
the drummer from Blur writes about it here
www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jul/13/british-party-electoral-system-votes
basically they're a bunch of fluffy liberals who like things like the Single Transferable Vote - rather than being a cover for fascists.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Transferable_Vote
Also yes - I was a bit wary about mixing b3ta with politics myself but they asked nicely, offered a good prize and life is more interesting by running with these things than saying no.
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Wed 12 Aug 2009, 15:54,
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www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jul/13/british-party-electoral-system-votes
basically they're a bunch of fluffy liberals who like things like the Single Transferable Vote - rather than being a cover for fascists.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Transferable_Vote
Also yes - I was a bit wary about mixing b3ta with politics myself but they asked nicely, offered a good prize and life is more interesting by running with these things than saying no.
What sort of change, though?
Return to monarchy? A dictatorship? Also, I can see a sillouette of Alfred Hitchcock in the top of the 'V'.
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Wed 12 Aug 2009, 15:43,
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I think the "V" is the clue.
It's lizards my friend, lizards all the way down.
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Wed 12 Aug 2009, 15:45,
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I sort of agree
Because I'm sick of the people saying "It's all crap we need something different" without having something different they are ready to explain and defend.
This "Vote fo a Change" is no doubt run by the same malcontent no-hopers that come out with a new party every so often, the same also-rans that never get elected.
It seems to be promoting proportional representation. Which to me means not putting the best politicians forward, but putting the crap ones forward too. Either that or it's the insanity of direct democracy.
The best message for people isn't "Throw Westminister away, it's all shit!" it's "Get involved in politics and change things".
However I hope this vote for a change fails. I'm sick and fed up of people saying it's crap without having a solution.
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Thu 13 Aug 2009, 21:03,
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This "Vote fo a Change" is no doubt run by the same malcontent no-hopers that come out with a new party every so often, the same also-rans that never get elected.
It seems to be promoting proportional representation. Which to me means not putting the best politicians forward, but putting the crap ones forward too. Either that or it's the insanity of direct democracy.
The best message for people isn't "Throw Westminister away, it's all shit!" it's "Get involved in politics and change things".
However I hope this vote for a change fails. I'm sick and fed up of people saying it's crap without having a solution.