"I'm not racist, they're racist, I just want a scientifically accurate mermaid."
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Ambegris likes his tea stirred anti-clockwise, Thu 15 Sep 2022, 20:35,
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So, presumably a mermaid with a black/dark back
and white/light underside would be more scientifically accurate for an entirely made up creature?
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Varmint, Thu 15 Sep 2022, 20:42,
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technically, a mermaid is not homo sapiens, so playing the race card/"diversity" doesn't apply in any case
nonetheless it's not what Hans Christian Andersen had in mind.
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Woodkovsky ☹️➝🚻➝🚽➝😣➝💩➝🧻➝😁, Thu 15 Sep 2022, 20:56,
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They might be aquatic apes and still hominids.
In which case that's the only legitimate use of the race card (taxonomically speaking, that is).
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Thu 15 Sep 2022, 22:12,
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Fish internals and gills, for all that sea breathing they do
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Turtle Power & Knuckles, Thu 15 Sep 2022, 21:13,
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2 Can Chunder Word to your mums — I came to prod bums, Thu 15 Sep 2022, 22:53,
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Only if they are descended directly from fish
Sharks for example have that trait.
If they are descended from land animals that then returned to the ocean, their tails would move up and down, like dolphins, whales etc.
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My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Fri 16 Sep 2022, 3:01,
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Yes but then they wouldn't be half human/half fish, would they?
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jonbob loves you, Fri 16 Sep 2022, 3:17,
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In my opinion, the problem with forced inclusivity/blackwashing/brownwashing in these kinds of scenarios
Is that it doesn't really solve anything.
The issue isn't that white people are being deprived roles, it's that it very much seems like black/brown/whatevs people are occasionally being granted roles specifically to tick a box, or worse - to deliberately provoke reaction.
People getting upset over black elves in Middle Earth or black actors portraying secondary characters from books they've probably never read probably need to get a fucking hobby. But casting a white actress to play the role of Ariel, or Snow White (who's literally described as being super fucking white if we're going by the Disney version) just screams woke bullshit.
Granted, there aren't a huge amount (any) 'classic' Disney productions with a non-white lead, but you'd be hard pushed to claim that non-white actors are struggling to find work these days. I doubt there would have been nearly as much controversy if they'd just cast some boring white girl in either of these roles in place of the obvious diversity hires. What has been achieved other than making some dweebs disproportionately triggered? Who's actually winning out of this besides the actor who's probably been cast specifically because they're non-white rather than in spite of it?
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What specifically are you actually upset about?
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Thu 15 Sep 2022, 22:16,
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Or she was cast based on talent
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Ambegris likes his tea stirred anti-clockwise, Thu 15 Sep 2022, 22:39,
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Perhaps.
Although, I'm not sure talent would have been enough to justify Tom Hardy being cast as Black Panther or Gary Oldman taking the lead in a Barack Obama biopic.
I suppose what I'm getting at is that just casting a black actor in a traditionally white role and calling it diversity feels a bit low-effort. Surely if the producers want to support diversity and black culture, a better way is to bring traditional black folklore to a wider audience. Why isn't Disney focusing on creating new, culturally and racially diverse characters instead? Too much risk? Moana did pretty well, as did Mulan.
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Is it any more "traditionally white"
than traditionally Danish?
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monkeon schmonkeon, Thu 15 Sep 2022, 23:31,
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The Little Mermaid isn't the most pertinent example.
As others have mentioned, she's basically a fish and I'm not entirely sure that she's ever been specifically described as being one colour or another. I mean her roots are in Danish folklore, so there's a pretty good chance that HKA was imagining a white upper-half, but it's largely irrelevant.
Snow White's casting is slightly more problematic, since the character is explicitly described as having particularly fair skin, which leads me to believe that the casting in that particular instance is either the result of shoddy research or deliberate wokeism. Considering the decision to erase the Dwarves, I'm going to go with wokeism.
I wonder how they'll handle the lack of consent in the kiss scene...
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Snow White was actually related to Barry
Children are not likely to be upset as some adults are by black actors in "traditionally white roles". Anyway, in the future you will be able to choose the actors' skin colour on Disney+
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Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Fri 16 Sep 2022, 0:11,
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Yeah, I mean at the end of the day it's nothing more serious than a poor casting choice.
I couldn't really give a fuck who plays Snow White. I certainly don't give a fuck that there are now black elves in Middle Earth (The Rings of Power has much, much bigger problems) and likewise, I'm not losing any sleep over Steve Toussaint playing Corlys in House of the Dragon. I can imagine some of the folk who actually read the books beforehand being a bit confused by the casting choices in both situations, but Elven/Velaryon skin tone is hardly a pivotal plot device.
The issue I take with all of this is probably just related to my inherent cynicism. I don't believe for a second that Disney are casting people of colour for 'traditionally' white roles for any other reason than some cheap publicity and some wokeist virtue signaling/box ticking.
Being able to change the race of the lead actors on the fly would make for an interesting study, mind. I wonder what percentage of viewers would choose a Hispanic Snow White or a Black Ariel over their traditionally White counterparts should they be given the option?
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this is the beginning of the end of this account isnt it
Perhaps try and lay off the racism a bit with your next one. Advice that could apply equally well to your real life I suspect
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Transphobe, racist, Unionist, and nowhere near as clever as he assumes himself to be.
Keyword: unlikeable incel.
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Transphobe? How so?
I think I asked you this before, but you failed to come up with any evidence to support your claim. Funny, that.
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Hers's a tip mate:
If you don't want to get accusations of racism and transphobia against you, don't express racist or transphobic views.
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Yes yes.
But where's this alleged transphobia you keep rattling on about?
I can see how a complete fucking moron might misinterpret my cynicism of Disney's diversity hiring as being racist, kinda. But you've completely lost me with these transphobia claims.
If I was to accuse you of being a nonce, I'm sure you'd want to know how I arrived at that conclusion.
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tbf, it might have been prufrock that posted some problematic stuff about trans people/gender identity
I get you two confused.
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"I couldn't really give a fuck who plays Snow White" claims man who literally brought up the topic in a 622 word online rant.
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Fri 16 Sep 2022, 20:14,
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They'll be casting lions in Shakespeare adaptations next.
It's political correctness gone mad.
You couldn't make it up.
We're all going to hell in a handcart.
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monkeon schmonkeon, Fri 16 Sep 2022, 8:39,
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What the hell
is that?
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My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Fri 16 Sep 2022, 3:05,
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You just wait till he finds out the truth about the Starbucks logo.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Thu 15 Sep 2022, 23:55,
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That, and it’s well known that black people can’t swim
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Fri 16 Sep 2022, 3:59,
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The significantly less successful sequel to the 1992 Wesley Snipes and Woody Harrelson classic.
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I think I'm a bit out of the loop here. What's caused Twitter to throw their toys out of the pram this week?
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Fri 16 Sep 2022, 7:44,
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I'm not going to watch this movie
because I'm not an 8 y/o girl
quite how that's not the beginning and end of most adult men's opinions on this is insane.
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rob, Fri 16 Sep 2022, 10:02,
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Point of order:
Some adult men might find themselves taking said eight year old girls to see this film.
Even then their opinion should probably be limited to nothing stronger than “Do I have to?”
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Fri 16 Sep 2022, 13:55,
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Is your b3ta birthday the same as b3ta's birthday?
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jonbob loves you, Sat 17 Sep 2022, 5:30,
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No, it used to be a kitchenware site until Rob took their domain when they forgot to reregister
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sat 17 Sep 2022, 13:18,
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Happy Candlemas, Rob
It reminds me of the furore when they cast Idris as Heimdal. A movie based on a comic about super heroes loosely based on a religion no one’s followed in a thousand years, and you’re upset by them casting a black actor? My dad used to splutter “There wasn’t a single fucking yank in the whole prison” whenever we watched the great escape, but at least it was a real event that people were still alive that remembered
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sat 17 Sep 2022, 13:27,
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