Man Faces 6 Months in Jail For Disagreeing With Feminists on Twitter
One of the comments reads: "The fact this man ever faced charges in the first place is beyond sad. I've read up on this case, there was NO harassment at all. She didn't like him disagreeing with her, so she made a criminal complaint."
The comment in the video about a game where you punch a feminist in the face reminded me of the punch Michael Gove 'game' on here a while ago.
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Jahled Three shades of black, Thu 16 Jul 2015, 11:01,
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Wait? That was't a game?
It actually punched Gove in the face?
How did they manage that?!
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gaijintendo Regular Member, Thu 16 Jul 2015, 11:11,
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hopefully the judge will find him not guilty and order the accuser to pay his costs
and then he can sue her for loss of earnings
Edit - seems that there's more to it than the video says...
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HappyToast Groat froth, Thu 16 Jul 2015, 11:11,
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Twitter has a block feature I assume?
If someone else's opinion on something or other really annoys you
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Jahled Three shades of black, Thu 16 Jul 2015, 11:14,
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yep, but maybe it wasn't around when this happened
also, you know from this place how people don't like using ignore
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HappyToast Groat froth, Thu 16 Jul 2015, 11:18,
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Seems a bit extreme to go the police to be honest
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Jahled Three shades of black, Thu 16 Jul 2015, 11:19,
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Much beyond it being a platform for spastics to loudly whine & upload food pics
I really don't understand twitter. And not bothered to change that.
[edit] Apologies for the split infinitive, Amadeus, I know you're a stickler for proper spelling & grammar.
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Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Thu 16 Jul 2015, 11:20,
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It's all a bit lost on me as well
Other than seeming to be a very good way of fucking yourself over if you are famous saying something daft or stupid, regretting it and deleting it, only for every other tosser in the world to screen grab it and post it everywhere to identify you as a cunt
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Jahled Three shades of black, Thu 16 Jul 2015, 11:25,
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i like twitter because it's a good place to keep up with organisations that i'm interested in
i use it as a news feed mainly and often find interesting articles to read that have been linked etc
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sock more tea vicar?, Thu 16 Jul 2015, 11:27,
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or if you didn't delete it,
and it gets dredged up 5 years later
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Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 16 Jul 2015, 11:29,
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Maybe I'm overly paranoid, but I don't imagine anything posted on the internet can be ever safely considered deleted.
Some of the stuff I've written here could easily come back & bite me on the bollocks if taken out of context.
/notbothered
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Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Thu 16 Jul 2015, 11:38,
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back in the day, the online safety advice was always
never post your personal details, never use your real name.
and that's why i'm not on facebook.
let's be honest we've all said things in the past that were a bit stupid even *in* context. but we move on. we learn, we change our minds about things and we grow as people. but not on social media. everything you ever said is who you are, forever.
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Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 16 Jul 2015, 11:45,
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You're not on Facebook because you have to be 13 to have an account.
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Fadgebadger Sweaty sumo wanks for everyone!, Thu 16 Jul 2015, 12:10,
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A friend of mine keeps badgering me to join facebook.
As far as I can tell the main reason he thinks I would do it is so that I can waste time trolling people I know well enough to troll in person.
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Very much this
Which is why I'm also not on Facebook. Well that and its full of navel gazing narcissists who interest me about as much as the Kardashians.
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Thu 16 Jul 2015, 12:33,
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me neither.
today they are trying to ruin the career of Jeremy Corbyn.
The mind boggles.
and there's nothing wrong with split infinitives, this isn't Latin
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Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 16 Jul 2015, 11:28,
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I also dont use it
but I thought I'd use it to follow people/sites I like as a sort of news feed for interesting things.
Then realised I didnt care enough about them to even open my twitter app.
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It's a good way to keep in touch with stuff/companies/people you like, plus people post funny stuff
a lot of b3tans migrated to it as an easier way to throw artwork out to a wider audience
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HappyToast Groat froth, Thu 16 Jul 2015, 11:34,
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The bit about not caring if the man commited suicide
is pretty disgusting.
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That's not what she said
She said, paraphrasing, if something bad happened it would be his fault. And yeah, the whole personal responsibility thing is not an unreasonable view to take.
Act like a twat, take the consequences.
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simbosan is too tired, Thu 16 Jul 2015, 11:34,
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i'd be interested to see what he said that they considered harrassment
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mutated monty, Thu 16 Jul 2015, 11:25,
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he allegedly did go out of his way to reply to her after being blocked
metronews.ca/news/toronto/1108049/toronto-twitter-harassment-trial-second-woman-says-gregory-alan-elliott-wouldnt-leave-her-alone/
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HappyToast Groat froth, Thu 16 Jul 2015, 11:32,
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Yes
Some of what he said was harassment, I think (although some of it fair comment). But he probably crossed a line.
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if he gets sent down I wonder what that means for people here
who post in threads of people who have ignored them
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HappyToast Groat froth, Thu 16 Jul 2015, 11:54,
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See
that's then bit where I think he kind of has a point: if you want to control who can respond to you, don't use a public mass comms platform where anyone can respond to you.
I think the case for harassment is more about the content than the medium, if that makes sense.
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Sometimes
Changing the platform you communicate with could cut you off from a lot, or even most, of your intended audience. Victims of harassment shouldn't be expected to either retire from having a public presence or "learn to deal with it", as if it's some sort of innate price you have to pay.
Reading the article, the guy certainly doesn't seem like the worst troll that I've ever seen, though. Time in jail seems a bit much.
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You have a right to free speech.
You don't have a right to an audience.
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surely
it's up to the provider of your platform to cut you off from your audience, if anyone's going to do that. Following your logic, it's ok to harass journalists until they stop writing stories about you in the papers, for instance.
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right, they didn't mention any of that in the video above
figured there would be more to it
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mutated monty, Thu 16 Jul 2015, 11:53,
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From what I've read he's gone out of his way to harass and bully some women
And now he's whining because they've had enough and reported him to the police. He's like that kid on the playground who'd been told not to touch you so he spends the rest of every break following you around, throwing kicks and punches that barely miss and mouthing abuse at you and relying on the defence "but I didn't touch him, I didn't say anything, I've done nothing wrong". He could have stopped at anytime and just got on with enjoying his own life. What a saddo.
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wakeupandsmellthebacon, Thu 16 Jul 2015, 11:50,
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That's one way of interpreting that
I note one of the women described as a 'prolific user,' which i'm assuming indicates she has a strong opinion on just about everything, much of which he obviously finds to be absolute bollocks, and hence expresses himself using the medium of Twitter.
It's sort of like an opinionated columnist getting upset because someone comments on whatever it is they feel the need to express to everyone else is their opinion about.
All of which reminds me why I don't use Twitter
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Jahled Three shades of black, Thu 16 Jul 2015, 12:10,
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Surely Ms. Guthrie's leaving herself wide open (ooer, fnar fnar, etc.),
as a ruling in her favour would open the floodgates for court cases against her from the folk she's allegedly trolled in the past, including Mr. Elliott.
Here's her TED Talk on trolling, for anyone who wants a better understanding of her thoughts/manner/approach: www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KHEkR5yb9A
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kitaro is all, like, "Nifty Biscuits" 'n that..., Thu 16 Jul 2015, 11:58,
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I don't think anyone is coming out of this smelling of roses.
news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/christie-blatchford-ruling-in-twitter-harassment-trial-could-have-enormous-fallout-for-free-speech
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Fuck me, no wonder the guy was on her case:
"He and Guthrie, for instance, initially fell out over his refusal to endorse her plan to “sic the Internet” upon a young man in Northern Ontario who had invented a violent video game, where users could punch an image of a feminist video blogger named Anita Sarkeesian until the screen turned red.
Guthrie Tweeted at the time that she wanted the inventor’s “hatred on the Internet to impact his real-life experience” and Tweeted to prospective employers to warn them off the young man and even sent the local newspaper in his town a link to the story about the game."
She sounds a bit like a Stalinist
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Jahled Three shades of black, Thu 16 Jul 2015, 12:19,
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If by Stalinist you mean someone who is fed up with people using threats of violence against women to silence them.
Why is "Free Speech" seemingly only ever invoked to protect the rights of nasty fucks to say nasty things, and not to protect the rights of other people to call them out and expose their nastiness.
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wakeupandsmellthebacon, Thu 16 Jul 2015, 12:24,
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Stalinist as in acting like a cunt and trying to fuck someone up because you disagree with them
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Jahled Three shades of black, Thu 16 Jul 2015, 12:42,
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"dad, those big kids keep picking on me"
"stop being such a cunt, son"
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mutated monty, Thu 16 Jul 2015, 13:23,
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Son...two c**ts don't make it right ...um oh hang on that isn't right
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transparenttown Dead to worse..., Thu 16 Jul 2015, 16:01,
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Not worth posting as the judge will decide based on whatever's already in harassement law.
This is NOT a precedent setting case (reddit just believes it is because reddit is full of MRA idiots).
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