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I've lost a nominal code on my sage software : (
What have you lost recently?
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:39, 205 replies, latest was 15 years ago)
Great Tickets to see Squeeze at the Phil!

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:40, Reply)
Bummer!

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:42, Reply)
He fucking is, isn't he?

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:44, Reply)
When I die you'll have my ashes made into a vindaloo
so you can feel me dribble out of your arse one last time.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:48, Reply)
Ew!

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:49, Reply)
Ooof!
Ooof but funny! *clicks*
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:50, Reply)
That is spectacularly unpleasant. I applaud you.

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:02, Reply)
You want me to Bum you?
That's not a problem.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:45, Reply)
I think the wife would disagree on that point.
Have I mentioned that I think your wife is lovely?
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:47, Reply)
I've definitely mentioned it
In poems and love letters to her. She's just waiting for him to finish the DIY, then she'll be on me in a flash.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:53, Reply)
My phone.
But I found it again a few minutes later.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:41, Reply)
THEN WHY HAVE YOU NOT TEXTED ME?

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:43, Reply)
*Shrugs*
Was I meant to?
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:43, Reply)
Do you need a reason?
This is why you're single. You know that don't you.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:45, Reply)
I do now.
*makes notes*
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:01, Reply)
The will to live
based on the amount of crap I've got to finish off today!
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:44, Reply)
All hope.

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:44, Reply)
Surely that's my line.
Wassup chompy?
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:46, Reply)
Girls work and money.

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:48, Reply)
I hear ya bro.

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:50, Reply)
So cooking, cleaning etc and money?

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:51, Reply)
The flat does need a good clean,
luckily I have a weekend of doing absolutly nothing so I might get on that.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:54, Reply)
This is not a good weekend!
At least buy beer
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:56, Reply)
How about becoming a gay, unemployed gigolo?

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:51, Reply)
One of the reasons I'm down is how literally fucked the NHS is
It's hard to see at the moment but it's really bad, it's going to take at an educated guess 10 years to get over the changes going through now, and that's just to get it back to 2008 levels of care, these aren't minor things either, people will actually die because of it.
So I really don't think becoming a gay gigolo when the health service is going down the pan is a safe option.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:59, Reply)
I went to the hospital today and they were wonderful and efficient
Just saying like
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:02, Reply)
I'm working on 6-12-18-24 month figures
enjoy it while you still can.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:05, Reply)
Will do!
*stabs self*
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:07, Reply)
I blame that 'Nick Clegg'.
Him and 'Bliar'.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:08, Reply)
And Gordon Clown
Actually I don't I blame that fucking self satisfied cunt Osbourne I hope he gets raped to death.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:13, Reply)
Yeah, the cunt.
He's done nothing of note since he was chucked out of Sabbath.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:17, Reply)
I disagree, Bark at The Moon is a cracking album.

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:20, Reply)
There is a case that Cleg has got nothing to do with it.
It's the fucking internal NHS market place which forces say barnley primary care to compete with exeters primary care. So they have to buy everything seperatly and are punished if they overspend on items or services. And financial punishments for failing (relativly) arbitary targets.

It gets as farcical as individual clinics buying syringes individually when any company in the world would give the NHS a massive discount if they said "do you want to supply the whole of England with syringes for three years"

The finacial penalties are a joke, "you have to see x% of people in A&E within y hours" which doesn't take into account the number of people going through, so inner city glasgow has to get x% of 4000 a day, while somewhere like sussex has to get x% of 300, with the same £5k fine every month if they fail.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:14, Reply)
Your spelling has died.

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:17, Reply)
You're lucky I'm not typing in caps I'm hitting the keyboard so hard.
Don't get me started on the redundacies that are taking place or the three year pay freeze, or the abolition of the PCT's and SHA's and the FUCKING GP CUNT-SORTIUMS
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:20, Reply)
it's not that these are not very valid points
they probably are, i just don't know anything about it. but find an industry in the private or public sector that isn't going through the exact same thing. the bottom line is, the economy is fucked, there's fall-out, and it never ever falls on the people who caused the problem. they are swanning around now making millions because people are actually stupid enough to pay them to speak/write books.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:29, Reply)
The difference is instead of shareholders losing money
people lose their lives, that changes absolutly everything.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:32, Reply)
that's a bit facile
it's not as black and white as money-v-life, and you know it!

the bottom line is, however amazing a job the nhs does, someone has to pay for it. this is why lots of other countries don't have it. and the money simply isn't there to do that, esp given the massive number of non-contributors who use it now, as opposed to when the concept was established all those years ago. in fact, the more money you contribute into the tax pot, the less likely you are to use it, as you are more likely to have access to private healthcare. so to make it work, they have to do something.

if it were up to me, i'd take money away from other things that i think are pointless and pump it into the nhs, transport and education, but naturally the government never think to ask me...
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:38, Reply)
There isn't a "massive number of non-contributors"
You've been reading to much hyperventilating Daily Mail stranglewank journalism.

The private healthcare argument is massively spurious as the vast majority of medical situations require you to use the NHS first regardless of your wealth or private healthcare.

And of course someone has to pay. That's why you put taxes up and actually enforce collection of corporation tax, instead of bending over backwards and being taken by anyone who fanices it. Because, here's the thing - banks and big business aren't going to fuck off to another country if you actually start to tax fairly. they just aren't. So why even listen to that as a threat?

Your plan is fine, but you don't need to take money from other things. You just need more money. Easy. More tax. now THAT is fair.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:45, Reply)
you say it's right wing bollocks
but every time the country has ended up in the financial shit, it's followed a more left wing government.

the problem is that you are never going to get high earners to think they should "have to pay" more tax to support other people who choose not to work at all. so there will never be a definition of "fairly" because it will fluctuate depending on who is control.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:59, Reply)
Why are you assuming that I would tax high earners more?
I'd tax everyone more. High earners pay more money, but not proportionally more.

And that government thing is entirely untrue. It's happened once (Wilson's government) - I don't think you can call the previous Labour administration "left wing"

I'm not, incidentally, left wing. I'm very capitalist. I don't wave ineffectual fists at the nasty banks. Capitalism works. But the ONLY fair solution to financial crisis is wholesale tax increases, because it is the only thing that hurts everyone equally.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:06, Reply)
Apart from those who employ accountants to ensure they pay as little tax as possible
By abusing loopholes and tax havens and the like.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:08, Reply)
and lawyers
don't forget the lawyers.

but then the accountants and lawyers pay tax on their fees and salaries, so.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:10, Reply)
Nowhere near as much as the tax money saved by the rich
Closing tax loopholes would be the most fair method of raising more money, in my very ill-informed opinion.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:12, Reply)
Take the example of the banks then
They were too big to fail, they got a large amount of help from goverment and the government has now said they're not in the buisiness of micro managing the banks. Trusting them to sort themselves out.

Where as the NHS has had the soon abolisment of NICE (the only way it currently has to limit the use of overpriced undereffective drugs), a "real-terms increase" which in reality is cuts and a massive stuctural change imposed by the government. Totally the opposite to what happened to the banks.

This is all about ingrained mistrust of the people who work in the public sector by the government, and politicians in general to be able to do anything at all without them pointing out what they should focus on.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:48, Reply)
Well, no.
the problem is rather that the NHS (and education for that matter) isn't a business and shouldn't be treated as such. Since it isn't "allowed" to do what a business in the same position would do (refuse to treat patients if it's not commercially viable, etc)

There's no reason the any of the public sector should be going through this. All it needs is a political party in power with the balls to tax both the public and the corporate sector at a fair level.

I'm all for reform of the public sector to remove wastage and shit staff. But this is basically fucking idiocy of the highest order and it will bring the whole country to it's knees.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:37, Reply)
but take that too far
and you end up with the highest earning businesses/individuals being made to support everyone else. which is fine up to the point that it's fair. that point will be different for everyone. after that point, they will simply leave the country to get on with itself, and you end up with another "brain drain" like we had in the 70's when some people were being taxed at 90%.

i am not disputing the morals of it, obviously, but the harsh reality is that nothing comes for free, and if something has got to the point where it is unworkable, even if that has been caused by crap management or government, there has to be a massive shake-up to fix it.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:42, Reply)
There wasn't a brain drain in the 70s.
That's more right wing horseshit.

Apart from anything else, the "brains" in this country aren't paid enough for it to matter what the tax levels are. You can't apply the term "brain drain" when what you mean is "voracious money grabbing scum with the morals of a hyena drain"

and, frankly, if the highest earning individuals don't like it, they can go and live in a country with a tax system that more suits their morals. Companies will not leave. Won't happen. Didn't in the seventies, won't happen now.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:49, Reply)
i am absolutely intrigued
as to why you think people who work hard and want to be able to enjoy the rewards of that should be "money grabbing scum". so i am money grabbing scum because i work the hours i do after about 21 years in education and the last 10 years literally working my arse off, but that makes me "scum" because i resent being made to hand over even more of it to support people who have chosen not to work, or to have tens of children?

why?
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:01, Reply)
Who mentioned you?
I appreciate you do well for yourself but I doubt (no offence) you fall into the catergory of people I'm talking about, who happily feel it's OK to try and hold the country to ransom by threating to take their toys away if tax is increased.

No-one is questioning your right to earn for working hard. But let me ask you, since you take that tack, what gave you the right to be paid more for your hard work than me for my equally hard and equally difficult work? You justifiably answer that and I'll agree that you shouldn't be taxed more than me.

And the "supporting people who don't work" argument is tired and untrue. That's a tiny amount of what your tax pays for.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:13, Reply)
because you chose your job
and i chose mine. you could easily have gone into a job that paid more, you could easily have gone into a job that paid less.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:19, Reply)
That's not an answer
as it in no way justifies why you shouldn't pay more tax than me.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:21, Reply)
yes it does
i went into law for many reasons, but one of the factors was the salary. in return for this salary, it's blood sweat and tears. it's missed weekends. it's cancelled holidays. it's often not leaving the office at all from one day to the next. the recompense is financial. so why should i do all that for less recompense, when i could not work at all and hold my hand out for free stuff and then loll around scratching my arse on it.

distill out the hyperbole and you'll get the point!
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:35, Reply)
Indeed. I'm sure it is.
And I work, effectively, all the time. My role is basically three jobs, any one of which would stretch one person, but I have to do all three. I absolutely guarantee you I work as hard as you do. So, why should you be paid more than me?

Like I said, I don't begrudge you your salary for a second. But until you can justify why you're worth more than me, then you can't justify why you shouldn't pay more tax.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:46, Reply)
Straw man.
Are you suggesting that we can all have 100k jobs if we wanted? Societal pressure says otherwise.

Sorry to bust in, I am massively enjoying the discussion.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:21, Reply)
This is my point
there's nothing in rswipes job that makes it "worth" more or less than, say, mine - she's paid more because that's how capitalism works, and I have no problem with that, as she freely says, my choice. I can and have worked in the private sector for much more money in the past and I still do on a consultancy basis when I have the time.

But since it isn't "worth" more then I can't think of one single justifiable argument why she shouldn't pay more tax.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:27, Reply)
because i don't want to??

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:30, Reply)
It's an honest answer
but sadly it's not a valid one. I don't want to pay any more tax either!
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:32, Reply)
honest, m'dear
very honest.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:34, Reply)
Didn't you cure cancer?
(in moths) I don't think there's many jobs that can ever be better than that.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:31, Reply)
not morally, maybe
but we can't all do that. every job contributes to society.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:32, Reply)
haha, I'm not playing the moral card.
that would be a shit argument. I don't think people like firemen and nurses should necessarily be paid more, either. But I do think the more well of should pay more tax. Well, everyone should pay more tax, but you know what I mean.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:36, Reply)
I think you may be confusing me, there
although I'm glad you reminded me of that genius thread, who was it again?
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:33, Reply)
Ah here it is
www.b3ta.com/talk/5544929
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:38, Reply)
Oh, that's fucking WIN.
Even I have to take some pleasure in that.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:52, Reply)
*signs up for Bupa*

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:09, Reply)
Probably for the best
you'll still be using NHS doctors though.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:29, Reply)
Abandon hope
all ye who enter Physchochomp
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:47, Reply)
I lose about three wallets a year. I have a penchant for expensive(ish) wallets, too.
When I used to DJ a lot I would lose a mobile phone a month, on average, pissed up jumping in and out of cabs. I once lost a brand-new pair of £150 Technics headphones too. New that day.

In recent months I've lost one wallet and a wrap of DMT down the back of my record collection. I have found 100 magic mushrooms though.

Worst of all is that I have apparently lost The Warriors' soundtrack LP in my flat: I can find the sleeve but no record. Similarly my 12" of 'Mama Said Knock You Out', this is distressing.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:49, Reply)
I never lose anything.
I once lost an eyebrow pencil and the shock nearly killed me. I spent a month hunting for the damn thing before I gave up and bought a new one.

Work is a different matter however, as there are other people moving my stuff. This means I can never find anything.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:52, Reply)
Did you not look a bit daft though?
Walking around for a month with only one eyebrow drawn on your face?
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:57, Reply)
I used it for filling in.
Not re-creating.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:58, Reply)
My missus
"tidies" things up and is constantly losing stuff. I swear to god, one of these days I'm going to find her phone in the fridge or something
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:55, Reply)
An ex of mine 'tidied' away 8 motorhead tickets for me and my pals.
Denied everything. I had to buy them all again, and then found them a year later stuffed into a cupboard where they had no reason to be.

I still have them, to remind me why 'bitchez ain't shit'.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:05, Reply)
Is that the "ex" reason then?

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:08, Reply)
That and a million and one other reasons.
This wasn't the mother of my kid, by the way. I don't half pick 'em.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:12, Reply)
Speaking of which
*gazzes*
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:34, Reply)
You are useless!

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:57, Reply)
You are homosexual!

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:12, Reply)
True, I fill my anus with your lost wares

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:16, Reply)
A friend, seemingly
She's back with her unpredictable and controlling boyfriend, so it means she can't see or speak to me anymore. Considering we were inseperable only a few months ago, I'm pretty fucking gutted.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:51, Reply)
Kids!
*shakes head*
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:54, Reply)
I want to be annoyed, or dismissive, but I'm just absolutely fucking gutted.
Anyway, that's enough of being emo for today.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:08, Reply)

utted ay
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:10, Reply)
Keep dreaming Monts...

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:14, Reply)
Kids!
*shakes penis*
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:09, Reply)
I lost hope for a wee while
But found it again. Now I seem to have lost a report for a case I did years ago. It's on the network somewhere, but a Manager decided to 're-organise' things, and now no-one can find anything.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:51, Reply)
My internet dignity it seems
having just come back from lunch and spotted Al's thread.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:55, Reply)
It's only internet dignity though
And I think most people are secretly jealous.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:56, Reply)
There is no such thing on B3ta

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:58, Reply)
Yeah, I know
I don't have any real dignity either so it's fine. And if you all choose to believe I'm that bendy then go right ahead :P
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:01, Reply)
How did that even start?
Is Al making things up again?
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:12, Reply)
It started when Berk mentioned that should we want to have sex with her
we would be unable to insert our penises because her mouth would be in the way.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:13, Reply)
That makes zero sense.
And naturally you got to that conclusion
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:15, Reply)
That's not what was said at all
but nevermind.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:15, Reply)
He reads what he wants to read.

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:25, Reply)
I didn't get that
Have you admitted to the whole internet you can lick your own tuppence? On balance, that could end badly or well, really.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:11, Reply)
Haha!
I thought it was only me and my sis that called it that.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:12, Reply)
I can't do any such thing
it's just Al making stuff up. Although I did say the other day I'd rather kiss my own arse than kiss the step brother I loathe.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:14, Reply)
I'd reckon it's pretty much biologically impossible
I only wondered if you'd manage to "comedy" answer in the wrong place to the autofellatio comment a few threads down.

Of course, now I don't know how I'll get over the terrible disappointment. I was going to gaz you for pictures and EVERYTHING.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:25, Reply)
My concentration.
Going to put on my usual work album (which is ( ) ) and get stuck into JSTOR
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 13:56, Reply)
My sanity
OH WAIT I NEVER HAD ANY LOLOLOLOLOL
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:07, Reply)
Says the voice of all Womankind.

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:12, Reply)
SAYS YOUR FACE

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:17, Reply)
desire

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:08, Reply)
I've pretty much lost mine now.
I get the odd rush of libido but it's very few and far between.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:11, Reply)
I think I have that seasonal depression or whatever
because all I want to do is sit in my bedroom and read and not see anyone or talk to anyone
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:13, Reply)
How old are you?

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:14, Reply)
I'll be 28 next month.

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:17, Reply)
Then it's seasonal.
Don't worry hon. Summer will be here soon enough.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:18, Reply)
I get it every year.
I even hate my birthday.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:22, Reply)
You can get uv light boxes which some say can help.
Even if it's the placebo effect might be worth it if it happens every year.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:27, Reply)
Not necessarily
my libido fucked off three or four years ago and never really came back. Summer or winter doesn't make any difference.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:28, Reply)
You should go and see your GP

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:30, Reply)
Have done
And I shall say to you more or less what he said to me: 'And what exactly can I do about that?' ie, bugger all.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:00, Reply)
Winter Emo

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:15, Reply)
true dat

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:17, Reply)
Sad

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:17, Reply)
I know you are, but what am I?

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:21, Reply)
Seasonal Affective Disorder

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:30, Reply)
I knowz, I think I suffer from it

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:32, Reply)
oh man the fuck up people
oh noez it's raining I'll have to stay in listening to greenday.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:40, Reply)
Shut it
You get all emo whenever you see yourself in the mirror. Just because Facial Affective Disorder isn't a recognised condition, don't go all mental about it.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:43, Reply)
Unlike you lab
I have few enough chins to be happy about the way I look
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:45, Reply)
My wits apparantly
I thought my collection was tomorrow, turned out to be this morning and I missed it
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:11, Reply)
And your ability to spell 'apparently', apparently.

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:14, Reply)
Yup
every braincell is dying. What makes it worse is I bumped into the invigilator who pointed out that I have *never* not even once turned up at the right time for a collection.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:16, Reply)
You're getting old, love.
It can only get worse.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:19, Reply)
Then I might as well
find a hole to die in now
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:22, Reply)
I've missed you Monty

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:19, Reply)
Oh no!
Will it be ok?!
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:26, Reply)
Yeah
they'll rearrange as always. It's just disheartening
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:29, Reply)
That's good, at least.

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:36, Reply)
It just reinforces
how stupid I feel though
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:41, Reply)
It was disorganisation, not mental deficiency.

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:46, Reply)
The Plot
Seriously, it was a tidy little time series of the variation in temperature and I can't remember where I saved the damn thing.

*awaits spang*
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:12, Reply)
It took a minute but I got it.
Woo me!
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:13, Reply)
Shocking

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:15, Reply)
Oh dear lord.
Also, as regards the post you made earlier, in a different thread (see "Berk and Her Amazing Tongue", A. T. Geordie 2011), it is not so much the actual word count that needs to be boosted, but the actual content: I am sorely lacking an argument.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:19, Reply)
Oh no you aren't.
I'm sorry, is this the full half-hour argument or just the five minutes?
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:26, Reply)
If you want to argue with me, how far would you say that Virgil's use as a schoolbook was a detriment to the analysis of the Aeneid as a whole?
Please, take your time.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:34, Reply)
Virgil's what?
Do you mean that the use of sections of the Aeneid in, for example, GCSE or A Level Latin lessons is detrimental to the analysis of the Aeneid as a whole?
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:36, Reply)
I think "Virgil's use as a schoolbook" is a valid phrase.
And I'm not just talking about GCSE or A level. The Aeneid was first used as an object of study a few years after his death, and has been used for study of Latin for hundreds of years. Because scholars focus on the "highlights" (the fall of Troy, Dido), this author thinks that we can't see the Aeneid as a whole.

Do you agree?
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:43, Reply)
The phrase confused me, as Virgil's a person, and therefore would be odd to use as a schoolbook.
But anyway, people focus on the good bits all the time, especially with something as lengthy as the Aeneid. Even The Bible isn't studied as a whole, due to all the bits that got edited over the centuries and compiled into the Apocrypha.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:47, Reply)
And of course it depends if you're Catholic or Protestant as to which Bible you have
and the Bible is a load of pamphlets held together with a lot of faith. It's impossible to take The Word of God as...the word of God, when it's been through about 4 languages and countless translators.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:51, Reply)
Most QOTW answers more closely resemble the truth than the Bible

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:56, Reply)
I'm quoting the Bible in this essay.

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:04, Reply)
Massively detrimental
because the Aenid is shit and dull and I hate it
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:36, Reply)
Virtuous pagan my arse.

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:44, Reply)
In answer to your question
no more than Cicero. The popularity goes in roundabouts, no work or writer is sustained greatness, and overanalysis has contributed to a reading of Virgil through jaded eyes
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:48, Reply)
Cicero can kindly go choke on a cock.

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:53, Reply)
My Latin lessons were never like this.
That's probably why I got a C in my GCSE.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:58, Reply)
Latin at uni is fantastic
Our core text last term was "Discuss the concept of the BFF", and this one it's "Poetry Porn".
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:02, Reply)
My thoughts precisely at the moment

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:08, Reply)
HE'S BEHIND YOU!!!!!

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:37, Reply)
OH NOES HE IZNT.

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:43, Reply)
OH YES YOU ARE

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:44, Reply)
If he were he'd be getting beaten to death with a wheely-chair right about now
Virgil, I mean, not Brian.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:45, Reply)
Ok, and if... *looks over your shoulder* ...Brian were behind you?

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:49, Reply)
Ask him how the fuck he got in through the security and point him back in the direction of the Knight's

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:53, Reply)
You know he'll just get pulled into the gravitational well of the Oak

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:59, Reply)
Awwww.
I miss GDS. When the weather's better, I might go back to that pub at London Bridge by the river, it's walking distance of where my friend lives now.

One of my sister's friends (an American, dear lord) is coming over to visit in... March, I think. She told me he had a liking for real ale, so I suggested the Porter (as it's in a nice area, things to see, etc.) Any other suggestions for me to pass on?
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:01, Reply)
I knew you'd want to go back to the Horniman.
As for your friend, I have many suggestions. It could be a long list, depending on how far he's prepared to travel for a pint.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:05, Reply)
Oh god, is that its name?
-holds head in hands-

If he's staying with sister, he'll be in Kennington. She works partly in the Westminster area, but she might have another job by that point. Knowing sister, she won't put up with going that far. I thought the Porter might be nice to tie in with a visit to the Market, which is walkable (not that she'd ever do it) from where she lives.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:07, Reply)
All the above are far too sensible.
I will instead say ... about this far: |----------------------------------------------|
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:40, Reply)
Ah, but is that using the metric '-' or the imperial one?

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:47, Reply)
Those are some ancient hand-tooled imperial hyphens I had lying about on the workbench.
They're getting harder and harder to come by, it has to be said. I'm surprised you couldn't tell from the wood-grained pixels, though.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:55, Reply)
It's these new-fangled metric, digitised screens we're given
Sure, they reproduce everything with reasonable accuracy, but they lack that special warmth and clarity you used to get from a stone tablet.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:02, Reply)
weight
everything else is all gain at the moment, love-life and work are potentially massively improved on the loser items that populated the back half of 2010.

however, i went to oxford yesterday, and as the trains were fucked i sprang the extra cash for a first class ticket so that i didn't have to touch any commoners.

THERE WERE NO FIRST CLASS COMPARTMENTS ON THE TRAIN. they should not sell first class tickets if they do not have first class bits. this is just thieving from innocent people. so, my temper with first not-so-great western, if that counts?
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:19, Reply)
Can you not get a refund on the ticket then?

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:20, Reply)
i have emailed them vociferously
if such a thing is possible
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:24, Reply)
Ooo I like 'vociferously', good word!
Also, congratulations on the massively improved love-life and work situation!
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:27, Reply)
work is always good, i love my firm
but sometimes it's good-good and sometimes it's shit-good!
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:30, Reply)
It's somewhat the same here
I have good and bad days, but I'm always doing morally-good work, and getting paid fairly decently in a place where I'm allowed to look weird.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:31, Reply)

weird fat
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:37, Reply)
Stop lashing out at me
Just because I posted a picture of what your vagina might look like.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:40, Reply)
I wouldn't lash out at you
If I got too close and my arm got sucked in by the gravitation pull of your chins I may never see my hand again
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:47, Reply)
I thought we already knew how it looked?

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:47, Reply)
CUM to the dark side Luke

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:18, Reply)
You'll find that the best way to avoid the proletariat
is to travel by zepplin.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:21, Reply)
Glad to hear that things are on the up.

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:25, Reply)
To be fair Swipe.
As someone who uses Worst-Late-Western trains quite often, it is almost impossible to tell the difference between their standard and first class carriages.

The only real difference is that instead of a copy of The Metro to read, you might get a copy of the Daily Express instead.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:33, Reply)
Any ability I might once have had to keep 'normal' hours.
It appears that my brain has decided that I'm nocturnal. Morning all.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:21, Reply)
You are an owl.
AICMFP
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:34, Reply)
I'm not an owl
I want my £5 back.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:51, Reply)
that's just what an owl would say

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:53, Reply)
If I'm anything, I'm a bat.
I use echolocation and everything.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:57, Reply)
Do you have ongoing problems with one 'Hugo Agogo'?

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:58, Reply)
That's going back a bit far for the yoofs, surely Jeff?
Not wanting to look like an auld codger or anything ...
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:02, Reply)
It doesn't matter Bri.
My super sonic sonar radar will help me!

*BEEP! BEEP!*
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:04, Reply)
He's right
I have ABSOLUTELY no idea what you're talking about, and I'm not going to Google it.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:15, Reply)
BATFINK!
sheesh
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:17, Reply)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batfink
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:18, Reply)
Oh, I have heard of Batfink
But only as a concept. I'm not going to look at the link. It would make me old.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:31, Reply)
Batfink was fucking brilliant.

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 16:38, Reply)
then take it back from him?

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:53, Reply)
Are you sure?

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:53, Reply)
I've lost a pair of boots and a small campbed, I'm hoping next week I can get people
to help me search throuigh Al's rolls and Lab's chins and hopefully find them again
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:36, Reply)
I lost both my gloves in one day, travelling from Berlin to England.
I think I left the first one in a train on the way to Amsterdam, then I KNOW I lost the other one in Brussels before I got on the Eurostar because I had it when I went through customs, and then when I got on the train it had disappeared. :(
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:44, Reply)
You should sew them to a string on your coat

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 14:53, Reply)
My sympathies.
I myself lost one just a couple of days ago, after my lunch was attacked by a small dog.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:01, Reply)
gosh darn those small dogs.
In much better news, I got PURPLE ones from M&Co to keep my fingers toasty. PURPLE. I now have purple gloves, scarf and hat. All I need now is a purple coat and my life is complete.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:03, Reply)
As will be your wall of purple to repel Anti-flouride Conspiracy Man...

(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:17, Reply)
oh man, my bedroom is painted purple. D'you think that'd work as a repellant to him?
fuck he was a complete nutter wasn't he?
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:19, Reply)
I've met a lot of people - and they're usually middle-aged to old men -
who believe in one or two conspiracy theories despite their being flagrant bollocks. Much like him, they won't be reasoned with, even when they flatly contradict their own arguments. He was a particularly 'special' one though, it must be said.
(, Fri 14 Jan 2011, 15:26, Reply)

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