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(, Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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I'm paying all your living costs and expenses, going out money, 2 average holidays a year, transportation, and all that... I mean, within reason, call it £50kpa. During this time, and it can be as long as it takes (on average for people doing it) you've got to retrain / study for a new career.... what will you study? What will you retrain to do?
Alternativly, I can give you £100k right now, one off payment, (which I understand is less money than 3 years training) is has to go towards a buisnes of some kind. It's up to you, but what is the buisnes? Let's thrown in and extra £50k if the buisnes is a non-profit charity. All the money has to go towards the buisnes/charity though.
Final Alternative, you can have £50k, to do what you want with, spunk it all up the wall for all I care.
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What option do you chose, and what do you do with it?
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:11, 186 replies, latest was 14 years ago)
I think if I had nothing else to do I'd do more artist things - make more stuff and make an effort to get good at it and get in galleries.
In real life I want to study something fun which I can do at the same time as working. Any suggestions anyone?
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I speak french pretty badly (despite working there one summer), German would probably be useful.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:23, Reply)
I'd start a high quality manufacturing one, something which makes high value items with a specific market. Probably for the energy industry or something.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:15, Reply)
they need plastic tubing and wiring, seats etc etc, but they'll need to be engineered in a very specific way to be reliable, that makes them expensive and profitable.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:23, Reply)
not a total budget, with that money I can get prototypes out there do market reasearch and get other investment. And I'd plan on it being very scaleable, small workforce doing small but expensive parts.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:21, Reply)
that the govenment are all loving at the moment so I'd expect some serious tax benefits within 2 years.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:25, Reply)
selling to people who will pay well for a fast turnaround and a high quality product is the way to go
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:28, Reply)
Or I should say it wouldn't be the product as such. It would be the raw material.
So say we're working with Carbon fiber, we'd get the machinery and people needed to work with that and then people who need something made in carbon fiber to a very high quality will come to us and we'll make a run of them. Doesn't matter what it is just that they need something precision engineered and are willing to pay for it.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:30, Reply)
and start a small private school, where the kids weren't taught to jump through governmental hoops, but were actually taught to read and write, and given skills that would be of use to them in the adult world.
Oh, and taught manners, responsibility, consequences, and given a bit of discipline.
Might cost a bit more than a hundred grand, though.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:21, Reply)
I can't see any way of making enough money out of it really.
Unfortunately the same can be said of being a guitarist.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:22, Reply)
also designed stuff and made it all exclusive and shit
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:24, Reply)
I am quite good at designing stuff as well as engineering things so they work, so I'd actually really love to be able to do it for a living. Just need the training to be able to turn plans into reality.
Far more enjoyable than flying a desk.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:27, Reply)
I think there's a guy in cardiff does it. He does a lot of things for arts council of wales who are all over that stuff
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:29, Reply)
I'd love to have a bit of training in creating stuff, and getting it to market. I have fab ideas for t-shirts and other bits and pieces like that.
Or graphic design. That would be fun.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:30, Reply)
my mate has been out of work for 8 months. admittedly he's a lazy surfing stoner as well, but still...
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:32, Reply)
buying art, or decorative objects, is a luxury rather than a necessity. There still seems to be money in logo design and stuff though.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:34, Reply)
the kind of shit that corporations and committees think is good :(
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:35, Reply)
people are so dim that they think anything looks good.
there are always people out their who will pay a premium for luxuries and one-off creative things. It's just a question of is it enough?
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:36, Reply)
Could be like a metal version of Chookywookydoodah
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:30, Reply)
chandeliers and things as well, and the occasional big installation type thing.
my mrs is a chartered structural engineer and it's not inconceivable that she'd be able to support me at some point while I indulge in this, at least part time, at some point. we shall see though.
I find it weird myself that without ever having experienced it, the only thing I can possibly see myself doing is being a blacksmith...
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:31, Reply)
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and I live in Devon, there are definitely some around here
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:55, Reply)
Or did I misread it?
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:33, Reply)
I got awarded a grant for it (I had a great business plan) but it made no money. I shouldn't be allowed near business things I think
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:26, Reply)
I'd probably be willing to whore my soul out to accountancy or law (sorry swipe) or pretty much anything, even if I hated it. I'll never see that kind of money in science, ever: it's well over double what I'm currently on.
I want in on Kitty's business: I'd love to run a bakery/deli/café style place. And 100k would buy you an awful lot of cupcakes.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:27, Reply)
I hated for any money. Unless it was only 2 hours a week or something
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:30, Reply)
the last few days here have really shown how much they are going to miss me though. It's going to be interesting to see what happens here after I leave.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:34, Reply)
and I'm the only one who really knows what's going on or where anything is. They're gonna be screwed in six weeks when I go.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:39, Reply)
but companywide. If I didn't have a new job already I'd have started looking.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:40, Reply)
I wouldn't be surprised if it was sold off or merged into one of our competitors within six months.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:41, Reply)
but I can see my division and particularly my office going within 6 months if things don't drastically turn around
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:49, Reply)
over one that'll make me rich, that's for sure. I'm sure I could stick it out for a couple of years in a job I hated just for the money; I'm too easy going to get really hacked off by much at work. I am struggling to think of anything I would really hate except really tedious or really manual stuff, neither of which you'd earn 50k doing...
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:32, Reply)
would be the ultimate horror job for me, but the thought of office work for life makes my brain want to do a sick
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:34, Reply)
in a proper restaurant, not some shitty Beefeater or something. But I believe it's very stressful, and I don't deal well with stress.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:38, Reply)
hot, stressy, crappy shifts and cooking.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:41, Reply)
I'd quite like to run my own cafe, not own it or anything, but run it. I find it disheartening all these people who open up cafe/resturants/sandwich-bars (etc) and then they fill it with the cheapest ingredients that have really horrible flavours and textures, like out-of-a-tub corination chicken. And then employe people who can only put a sandwich together and fry some bacon/eggs, rather than make up something fresh (fresh as in, at least made on the day, if not to order).
I'm going to learn how to make Rarebit this week, that's my Food To Learn This Week thing.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:38, Reply)
It's got beer and other stuff in it too. Shouldn't you know this, being Welsh? :P
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:47, Reply)
i had it at quaglino's the other day, on tiny squares of garlic foc and the rarebit was made with stilton.
i nearly creamed myself.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:50, Reply)
it's got mustard and a splash of milk or cream, and some spice
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:52, Reply)
but beer is definitely a common ingredient.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:55, Reply)
I'm sure your personal recipe is perfectly adequate for your needs.
Most of the top results here seem to include it though: www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&xhr=t&q=rarebit&cp=6&safe=off&qscrl=1&nord=1&rlz=1T4GGHP_en-GBGB442GB442&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1280&bih=845&ion=1&wrapid=tljp131349982707702&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:06, Reply)
I'm sure I looked on at least two of those sites when I was finding a recipe for it
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:11, Reply)
It's like toast with a cheesy bechimal.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:52, Reply)
buck rarebit. nom
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:55, Reply)
except without all the bitching in the cab afterwards. I believe that the kind of café you're on about does have a place; sometimes you need a quick grab-n-go and you don't really care about flavour or texture as long as it's quick and cheap. But that's not the kind of place I would want to run.
I'm making tagine this week. Om nom nom.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:42, Reply)
There is a place in Brighton called The Mock Turtle, which I believe to be the perfect cafe, which is the sort of idea you're talking about.
Oh nice, what kind of tagine?
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:53, Reply)
with GIANT couscous which I found in Waitrose, and was so amused by the idea that I had to buy it.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:02, Reply)
I got a tagine from my mum for christmas and have yet to use it.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:03, Reply)
Just give me the money.
I don't want to do a different job - I love mine (even if the pay is crap). I don't want to run a business either (been there, done that and didn't like it).
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:34, Reply)
Then you can write a best selling book about them.
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(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:46, Reply)
but i like your face, so i'll sell you one of mine for that price.
you can have stuart weitzman, roland mourret or aquaitalia. personally i'd go with the aquaitalia, as my shiny black leave-on boots came in that box, so it's a bit bigger. more bang for your blow, so to speak.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:49, Reply)
see!
fashionista.com/2011/07/roland-mouret-named-creative-director-at-robert-clergerie/
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:54, Reply)
i do have a weakness for fucking expensive shoes, but i would never spend more than £350 on shoes and £500 on boots - yes i know that's obscene, but what i mean is that i would never spend £850 on a pair of louboutins or £1,000 on some gucci boots!
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:55, Reply)
but if you choose well and look after them well, they really will last for years.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:58, Reply)
which is why I had no problem spending a mere £100ish on my wedding boots.
plus, they are awesome
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:59, Reply)
with 6 inch stainless steel heels were appropriate for her.
didn't work, but she has got some red patent shoes for the wedding.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:01, Reply)
.... you can buy her some really nice stockings. and after the wedding, you can make her do Stuff to you in the nice underwear and the red patent heels.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:07, Reply)
kind of statement, but since you mention it, those things will be happening anyway.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:08, Reply)
they only get worn for very special men (NOT in a window-licking sense!). they have never failed me yet.
i don't think you'll complain, shall we say, and draw a veil over the rest of it!
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:12, Reply)
1 - "you know what'd be good...?"
2 - "yeah if there were like two of me and one was naked and the other was trying to take his own clothes off to put on the naked one and they are fighting over who gets to be naked..."
1 - "I was going to say 'a nice cup of tea'"
everyone else "..."
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:12, Reply)
your cameras are my shoes or kroney's cars or monty's nose candy or vipros' guitars... we all have something we like to treat ourselves to!
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:05, Reply)
nothing wrong with having something to indulge in. Unfortunately I like guitars, surfboards, cars, my house, food, coats, boots.....
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:07, Reply)
this time next year, eh rodney?
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:08, Reply)
give me a couple of months and I'll be considerably better off than I am now.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:08, Reply)
there's not much you can do with them except wear them, but even then the fancy ones seem to be impractical.
There again I bought cheap shoes the other day and trashed them while I was away. NOw I have to buy more shoes :(
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:08, Reply)
or so I am led to believe.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:09, Reply)
they are much MORE comfortable. "comfortable" without qualification would be a bridge too far!
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:13, Reply)
and that is because they don't spend enough on them
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(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:55, Reply)
i'd have gotten in for free the night before. so you could also keep the £50k!
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:56, Reply)
I could choose to train as something which requires many many years of study (architect? Doctor? Aren't these about 6 years of study?)
That way I am looking at getting at least £600k from you and ultimately end up qualified to take a high paid job.
What happens if I fail to qualify or if it takes me longer than average to qualify? Do I have to pay you back or will you fund me indefinitely?
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:45, Reply)
not really, it's all about the money
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 13:49, Reply)
Having a metric fuckload of something you don't really want isn't that good though, I'd rather have less of something I do want.
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When they came to collect their weapons I would torture and kill them, for lolz.
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but there are some problems with this:
1) they don't make any money and
2) I would be reluctant to actually part with any stock
3) I'd be patronising to the customers and they'd hate me.
Maybe I'd be better off writing for a music site like Julian Cope's Head Heritage: Unsung - but I don't know enough so you'd have to pay me to research arcane records for a couple of years.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:01, Reply)
www.noiseaddicts.com/2008/09/biggest-record-collection-in-the-world-paul-mawhinney/
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:12, Reply)
not entirely certain what for. Maybe just pay my way through law conversion course.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:01, Reply)
Then eat them. With hilarious consequences.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:02, Reply)
I might well be shit at it though.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:04, Reply)
people get all sorts of shit published. I might have a crack at a creative writing course
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:05, Reply)
This is why I shall die broke as fuck. I cannot afford to have principles but this doesn't seem to stop me.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:06, Reply)
There are loads of people make money as photographers who are shit, I just couldn't do it, I still don't think I'm really good enough. Stupid principles
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:09, Reply)
but sad to say it's near on impossible to make money from writing unless you go down the route of journalism.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:09, Reply)
I could write a good historical novel but it probably wouldn't sell very well
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:17, Reply)
I really enjoy cooking, it's probably now my favourite hobby, so I may well enjoy doing it for a living.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:04, Reply)
The hours and conditions are horrendous.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:08, Reply)
The thing is, aside from that, or getting some major computing qualifications behind me, there isn't really a huge amount I'd want to do.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:14, Reply)
He refers to himself and fellow culinarians as "Restaurant Lifers", and not without reason. He also makes Ramsay & his ilk look like a bunch of schoolgirls by comparison!
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:29, Reply)
on a bed of seasonal, organic lettuce leaves?
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:35, Reply)
with ideas above his station.
I dislike Marco Pierre White as well.
You don't need to be a complete cock to be a good chef.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:35, Reply)
I was just trying to be funny, you have now reached the edge of my knowledge of cheffing. Although I did watch those dudes on motorbikes, but mostly because they seemed to be two guys arsing about and proving that sometimes you can make money from the things you like to do
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:38, Reply)
It's food porn, mixed with entertaining personalities.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:42, Reply)
these days I tend to only watch Masterchef Australia, because it has good cooking, entertaining personalities, and if you are lucky, hot women.
or the occasional bit of Nigella, but that has very little to do with the food.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:49, Reply)
I know I shouldn't, but I just find it hugely entertaining. Also, his excitement makes it even better.
The Good Cook is currently my favourite though, the stuff he makes is good, homely food, which looks fantastic.
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You have just the right amount of infectious enthusiasm to make it work. For bonus points you should have B3th as a co-host that you repeatedly fail to get off with.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:33, Reply)
there would be a wedding after Gonz ccoks B3th's husband a special dinner
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:39, Reply)
It was on late night channel 4 when I was a teenager and had tits in, which will be why I watched it. It was probably good and had lots of clever stuff in, but I won't have appreciated it at that age. I'll add it to my Lovefilm queue and let you know.
Anyway it involved cannibalism as I recall which was kind of the joke.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:48, Reply)
Sadly in my teenaged years I watched a lot of quality/foreign cinema waiting for the inevitable tits.
I should put for Amberl's sake it was pretty gross too in places.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:54, Reply)
Do you fancy a youtube project? That could be fun !
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:53, Reply)
Or Amberl or some other target for your doomed advances. Nigella Lawson would be perfect but I think she's busy.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:55, Reply)
But I think I'd have to work my way up to it first.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:59, Reply)
not worth worrying about really.
(, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:41, Reply)
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