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( , Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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although the website doesn't give an official reason, I would guess they haven't shifted many tickets.
It's a shame as I was going to buy a ticket nearer the time, but now I have more money to spend on Donnington.
EDIT - Oh, tell me about things that have disappointed you.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:29, 253 replies, latest was 13 years ago)

Given the typical ages of fans of the headliners you'd have thought there'd be enough spare cash floating about to make it happen. Gutted, although it makes my decision about Resistanz much easier
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:30, Reply)

Good lad.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:36, Reply)

Also, haven't had my confirmation of a Norwich gig (with accompanying VIP tickets and complimentary hookers) from Andy Zaltzman yet, what are you playing at Boyce?! It wasn't a big ask!
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:40, Reply)

I know that much.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:52, Reply)

couldn't even spell his own first name
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:55, Reply)

I make no claims to consistency. For some reason 'Led Zeppelin' is OK with me, too. Perhaps I am just a massive wanker?
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:58, Reply)

Perhaps, in a deliciously ironic twist, by choking to death on the scrunched-up failed attempts to correctly spell discombobulation.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:01, Reply)

They left it far too late before any announcements, as quite a few would have already bought their Download tickets by the time Sonisphere even announced their first band.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:33, Reply)

I would have gone to see Electric Wizard out of that lot. That is all.
I think perhaps this festival wasn't aimed at me...
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:35, Reply)

*I mean this as a good thing.
Editpiss
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:37, Reply)

EHF fucking RULED the mid/late 80s home counties free form psychedelic instrumental rock scene, I'm telling you.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:40, Reply)

And that was only really the first announcement
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:37, Reply)

All the others are either bands I've never heard of and therefore I accuse you of making them up, or they are utterly rubbish. Kiss, particularly, are fucking dreadful. Cheesy, MOR shite. Cunts, as well.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:39, Reply)

I think the stage show from Kiss would have been spectacular
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:41, Reply)

the guy shooting rockets out of his guitar is cool, and Paul Stanley flying out over the audience is also great fun.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:44, Reply)

that way it's exactly just like listening to an album and adds nothing new to the experience, which is all anyone wants for a £60 ticket anyway
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:54, Reply)

and let off fireworks in order to mask the dismal mediocrity of their actual music. James Brown was an incredible showman (as was Hendrix) but you could still enjoy his gigs if you were blind. Kiss, however, are cut from the same shitty cloth as wankers like Def Leppard, and can not only fuck off, but also die in a fire. As can you.
x x x
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:00, Reply)

didn't mean to get you angry
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( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:03, Reply)

i'll mark a thing on my calendar for 6 hours time to avoid you when you hit the comedown
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:09, Reply)

Kiss, in their pomp, where exceptional showmen.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:36, Reply)

but having to listen to Kiss whilst watching it would ruin any enjoyment I might get from it. cf Rammstein. Plus I am a bit too old to be impressed by fireworks, if I am honest.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:45, Reply)

you'll change your mind
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:57, Reply)

I don't recall liking them even when I was a kid, to be honest. My mother used to make toffee for fireworks night and that I did enjoy. Fireworks themselves, meh. Even on magic mushrooms.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:05, Reply)

but now i find good ones genuinely impressive
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:08, Reply)

( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:46, Reply)

I don't either one was perfect, but I would have preferred my headliners to have been Kiss, Metallica and Sabbath. And I wanted to see Within Temptation, Mastodon, Gojira, The Darkness and Lacuna Coil.
I hope Download snaps up a few of the bands.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:37, Reply)

They've got a few great songs, like Digging the Grave and Ashes to Ashes, but they really aren't that good. Certainly not good enough to headline.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:45, Reply)

That's the main problem.
The only tune of theirs I am familiar with had some God-awful cod rap-rock shite going on. Same 'embarrassing white person' vibe as RHCP.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:46, Reply)

( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:53, Reply)

Not that my musical tastes at that age were entirely informed by my dad. Oh no...
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:01, Reply)

My love of surf guitar music, 50s r'n'r and late 60s rock all come from my old boy. He also played me the first Jesus & Mary Chain LP (a work of genius if you ask me) and various reggae artists like Burning Spear. Cheers dad.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:09, Reply)

we both know that headlining isn't about being good enough. If it was, AC/DC would never get to headline anything.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:57, Reply)

The suggestion that AC/DC are the best band on any given festival lineup is bollocks. Or, a really fucking shit festival.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:02, Reply)

Also, Thunderstruck, You Shook Me All Night Long, Highway To Hell, Back In Black, etc. They are more deserving of headlining anywhere than Blink 182, Green Day, Guns N Roses, Arctic Monkeys, Radiohead, The Killers, Manic Street Preachers and Kasabian put together.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:09, Reply)

I thought you and me were friends? I thought we bonded when I defended you when Swipe said you were a bumhead?
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:24, Reply)

( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:26, Reply)

who'd have thought?
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:31, Reply)

Should all bands have a stylistically varied career, like, er, Genesis or Paul fucking Simon?
Clue: no they should not
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:17, Reply)

I'm sure that if you disliked one of my favourite bands you'd just let it lie and wouldn't harp on about it for months
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:21, Reply)

work that in somehow
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:24, Reply)

Try calling Al a fat, bald unoriginal cunt
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:28, Reply)

If the purpose of doing so would be to raise a few lols, it works every time. If the purpose is to get you to shit off, I'm sure it never will. But you could say the same about you calling me a bumsexualist and posting a pic I asked you once before to take down.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:37, Reply)

And "worked" in the sense that it may cause me to "bite".
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:41, Reply)

And no it won't get you to bite, but that's not why the abuse gets chucked about is it.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:45, Reply)

which is the crux of my problem with AC/DC. Anyway the album sales thing only underlines my original point; the right to headline is about popularity, not quality. Selling a lot of albums doesn't make you not shit. Oasis sold a lot of records.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:13, Reply)

That accusation could be levelled far more accurately at Combichrist or other industrial bands.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:16, Reply)

they have a similar sound and style because it's the same band, in the same way that you can tell a Rush track you've not heard before having heard Spirit of Radio and Tom Sawyer, but the actual songs aren't the same.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:21, Reply)

but you don't like them, so you don't want to invest time in picking out said differences.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:22, Reply)

( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:27, Reply)

I disagree. Also; Hawkwind are shit.
OMLG! Individual human beings having different viewpoints shocker! Someone call Bella, the system is on the verge of smashability.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:32, Reply)

That's where your argument falls down.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:36, Reply)

You know what else, CombiChrist are much better than Jimi Hendrix
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:39, Reply)

Go and buy your daughter an ice cream. Oh wait, better not, you can't afford it, and she's with her mother.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:25, Reply)

she should have waited until he was older
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:33, Reply)

you had all the anaesthesia ready to go, too :(
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:37, Reply)

And I disagree on every song sounding the same.
However, that's my opinion, and everyone is entitled to theirs.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:16, Reply)

I was never arguing against AC/DC being popular - they've achieved a phenomenal amount, I just don't like them
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:19, Reply)

I just don't think it's right for you to say they don't deserve to headline a festival is all, as they've shown, they clearly deserve it.
However, as I say, to each, their own.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:20, Reply)

I didn't mean they don't deserve to headline - clearly they do. My point was that it's about popularity not quality, in response to Al's suggestion that FNM don't deserve to headline because he doesn't like them.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:23, Reply)

but I just don't see where the devotion comes from. Everyone raves about Angel Dust, but apart from Be Aggressive none of the songs are really that good, I don't even think Midlife Crisis deserves the ratings it gets.
I don't feel they have a sufficiently large catalogue of good songs that a large crowd would want to see, hence they shouldn't be headlining.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:28, Reply)

but there are many thousands of people who would disagree with me, just as there are thousands who would disagree with you about FNM. Saying that a band aren't good enough to headline is a redundant notion unless they haven't shifted any units, which FNM obviously did.
The Smashing Pumpkins headling Reading a few years back, that absolutely gobsmacked me. Up until that point I genuinely didn't realise they had such a following because they were so eye-wateringly awful. But then, the only time I went to Reading Suede were headlining.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:35, Reply)

Also, Smashing Pumpkins headling something falls into the FNM situation. They simply shouldn't have been headling.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:39, Reply)

You should be allowed to decide who headlines every festival according to your personal opinion, regardless of fan base or record sales?
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:43, Reply)

I'd like a 'no shit music' policy at all festivals. Decided on by me.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:44, Reply)

every five years
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:47, Reply)

I've got it all worked out.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:54, Reply)

when there's only one person in attendance, and he doesn't have any beer money?
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 12:01, Reply)

I'm not subbing his beer consumption though.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 12:08, Reply)

( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:44, Reply)

If you sell more albums its because more people wanted to buy them. If more people wanted to buy your album, then you're better at doing what you do (sale records) than someone who sales less.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:49, Reply)

Being better at making records people want to buy, and seeing that reflected in record sales, is a completely different principle to the notion of "quality" which is entirely subjective.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:52, Reply)

But it is true that there is no accounting for tastes.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:54, Reply)

but you know what I mean. However amateurish a band may sound to you or I, there's always someone (usually Monty) who considers them to be a "raw, unpolished gem"
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:58, Reply)

( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 12:04, Reply)

It is entirely possible for highly technically accomplished musicians to produce worthy music, but it is most definitely not a pre-requisite.
And anyone who tries to use a band or musician's virtuosity on their instruments to prove their musical worth is probably already losing the argument.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 12:16, Reply)

Moving Pictures by Rush is a great example of a technically accomplished band recognising the need to write enjoyable songs as opposed to just demonstrating their virtuosity.
Dreamtheater, on the other hand, are impressive for the first 30 seconds before you realise the whole fucking album goes on in that vein.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 12:18, Reply)

I'll be honest, I know bugger all about reggae, never really been able to get into it. Can you recommend any decent-but-not-too-obscure reggae tunes with good basslines?
One of my students wants to learn about reggae basslines, and I'd prefer not to have to trawl through "no woman no fucking cry" with him.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 12:14, Reply)

I've only really dipped my toe into reggae, but if it is bass you are after then dub is probably the place to look.
The best two dub records I know of (Monty, with his greater knowledge of this genre may disagree) are Augustus Pablo/King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown and Lee Scratch Perry/Super Ape.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 12:23, Reply)

Jimmy Cliff... Firstly by watching The Harder they Come, this has music from Jimmy himself along with Desmond Decker and The Slickers
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 13:52, Reply)

Because I don't think the world could cope with that
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:14, Reply)

And the Pink Fairies at the Roundhouse. I am certain only three tickets were sold for that. To me, my brother and his mate Bonz. I was practically shitting myself with excitement about seeing them again, and then 'cancelled due to illness'. Who knew unpopularity was an illness?
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:35, Reply)

not because it's cancelled, i was always gonna head to download, but because this means download tickets will sell out real fast, it'll be absolutely RAMMED and i'll a: have to buy early (ie before i can afford it) and b: jostle for tent space. motherfuckers.
still. mosh pits :D
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:48, Reply)

Embarrassingly, it wasn't even for a heavy band, I came out of Cannibal Corpse with no visible injuries at all.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:50, Reply)

i was in the pit to mastodon, and some twunt with a big wooden skull on a stick took my knee out, causing the circle pit to fall on my duff knee. it was december before i could walk normally again. still going back in :D glutton for punishment. i'l start out withthe best intentions, but i don't think i'm physically capable of not pitting when peopel like lamb of god and mastodon play. it's the only nod to red blooded alpha male douchebaggery in my otherwise homogenised metrosexual character. can't help myself.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:55, Reply)

( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:56, Reply)

who is fat bobby? i've been absent for a bit. and had a name change.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:57, Reply)

My only regret is that I missed 'Blood and Thunder'. The pits for Parkway Drive were a bit mental, great fun though!
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:05, Reply)

If so, this would explain why I didn't see them.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:08, Reply)

I had to negotiate hard to be allowed to attend on the friday and saturday. I had been given a free pass to this years, which makes the cancellation even more annoying.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:14, Reply)

I don't like the site layout for Download.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:53, Reply)

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( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:01, Reply)

which is fucking shit when you're carrying a heavy bag and tent and your booze supply. Then from the nearest campsite to the arena is about 1-1.5 miles, but if you were camped further out then it was obviously more.
The set up really is fucking terrible.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:04, Reply)

Al here has to walk 3-4 miles a day just to get beer. With your help we can get his tent moved to the disabled camping area. Just £10 a month could help him to get some spirits and a hipflask to carry them in.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:08, Reply)

well over a mile from mid campsite to arena gate
when you're twatted and it's baking hot and there's about one water point per thousand thirsty fans, it's like crossing the fucking sahara.
one year i'm gonna set up shop selling beers midway. i'd make a mint.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:03, Reply)

can fucking do a massive one.
i hope they don't repeat the debacle from 2010 either, having the second stage (smaller crowd, heavier bands) on fucking tarmac again. that was a death trap. cavalera conspiracy was a bloodbath.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 10:56, Reply)

We're cool as fuck and better looking than you.
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( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:01, Reply)

Which makes the whole festival a religionfest and I am glad its cancelled.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:11, Reply)

Underoath is one of them.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:12, Reply)

I was glad when I found out this wasn't the case.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:15, Reply)

Btw, have you ever heard any Halestorm?
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:17, Reply)

Halestorm are a female fronted band, sounds almost like Paramore grew a pair - www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmkHqUwa4zg
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:25, Reply)

I bet the reality is awful, though.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:40, Reply)

Tbh, they're a bit silly, and whilst they're treated as such, it's fairly entertaining.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:41, Reply)

Not sure I'd want to listen to them for a sustained period of time.
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( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:40, Reply)

There is plenty to love out there in Gospel, Spiritual Jazz, Country etc.
There is less of the "Hey Christianity is cool, we like the same music as you" in other genres.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:23, Reply)

this includes any religious family members I have.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:14, Reply)

I'd just like to say sorry for fucking up England's chances of winning the first test. I should not have even mentioned it. Special apologies to Darth and The Mighty Badger. It won't happen again.
*burns self to death*
*ends up as new trophy*
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:30, Reply)

looked warm
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:34, Reply)

My iPhone told me it was going to be 23 degrees in London today. It ain't even sunny. At least Kisstory is reasonably good this morning.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:31, Reply)

The location on my phone is still Newcastle, Barry's being a duh-brain.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:36, Reply)

If this is a dip then I want more, please.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:43, Reply)

I'd be interested in your favourite non game iphone app - please enlighten me
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:38, Reply)

Excellent for finding food and alcohol in unknown locales.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:39, Reply)

also Flipboard is the nutz
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:41, Reply)

Erm I dunno. Soundcloud, Twitter, Shazam is a godsend, Sky Go maybe. I need some good ones. Actually I forgot Spotify, I'd kill myself if I didn't have Spotify.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:40, Reply)

Obviously you need Sky TV at home.
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( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:43, Reply)

come sample some of my organic cloudy juice
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:45, Reply)

I bought a Nokia N900 because I didn't want to be an Apple wanker. For two years I was stuck with that piece of shit. But, as cunty as the people who don't shut up about iPhones/think it makes them cool are, they're actually the best phone on the market by about a million miles. So I've joined the cunt brigade. And I'm getting an iPad on Monday, suck on that playa.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:46, Reply)

ipad is great, iphone is shit, the home button becomes useless after about 6 months and you have to basically massage the cunt before it does anything. Can't wait to get rid of my iphone.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:58, Reply)

I'm piggybacking my dad's business account with Vodafone, fiver a month, unlimited claims, no excess to pay and no questions asked. Get it replaced over the counter. I might throw mine at a wall and get it replaced in town this afternoon just to annoy you.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 12:05, Reply)

This draws me to the conclusion you used it with BBQ sauce all over your hands and never thought to wipe it down.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 12:13, Reply)

google it, it happens to loads of people. Like premature ejaculation.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 12:14, Reply)

from the ex
it's the most ridiculously priced pair of headphones for iphones/ipods etc as a thank you for all the storage help.
i might cry. they sound fucking EPIC though.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 12:17, Reply)

I'm rather happy with my £15 Sennheisers, the only problem I have is the 3 metre cable.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 12:27, Reply)

even i can hear the difference, although my music is nowhere near as good as his. where they will be really great is watching tv/films on the ipad when i'm away.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 12:30, Reply)

Crystal clear sound and no distortion whatsoever, regardless of volume. Closed back as well, so minimal leakage and they block out nearly all ambient noise.
Wonderful things.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 12:39, Reply)

www.amazon.co.uk/Sennheiser-HD201-Closed-Back-Headphones/dp/B0007XJSQC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1333021260&sr=8-1
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 12:41, Reply)

for signing up to a particular broadband or from a client who wants to keep your custom
it surprises me you didn't work this out yourself
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 12:26, Reply)

besides, the receipt was in the box.
he tried to give me an equivalent amount in cash which i returned, so he has spent it instead. it's v thoughtful.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 12:29, Reply)

I just want one because I'm a flash cunt.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 12:16, Reply)

and i do very little with it except stroke it most of the time!
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 12:18, Reply)

But with all the conspiracy theories springing up from the extent to which Apple are supposedly recording your location, activity, etc., at the same time as their advances in touch-screen technology - i.e., all you do is stroke the thing - I'm beginning to wonder whether all those touch-screens link remotely to some crotch attachment worn by the late Steve Jobs so that you indirectly pleasure him every time you do anything with your iPhone or iPad.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 12:21, Reply)

wow. there's some thought gone into THAT.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 12:30, Reply)

both utter turd and the 4S is brilliant by comparison. I shall probably be trying Android next, though.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 12:14, Reply)

When the N900 finally broke I sent it off and they gave me an N8 in return. Bit like being told you've survived cancer but now have AIDs. How fucking shit were they both?!
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 12:15, Reply)

UPS lost it in the post and Nokia sent me a kick in the bollocks by way of compensation. The N8 was so shit I actually got angry trying to navigate using its piss poor interface.
The iPhone is a perfect instrument for what it's designed to do. Which isn't to be as moddable as Android.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 12:17, Reply)

what with the relatively short time its been out. I'm not going to be upgrading again for eighteen months yet, though. The whole landscape will have changed by then, I expect.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 12:24, Reply)

Sadly, I'm trying to downgrade my contract, which means that the newer phones often aren't available to me. Just sick of paying £50 a month, really.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 12:38, Reply)

It's now about 6 months old so you should be able to find it on a lower contract.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 12:39, Reply)

The missus got one as an upgrade last year and straight away she had to charge it every day.
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