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 Whatcha' reckon?
	Whatcha' reckon?www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2246104/Unemployed-single-mother-benefits-spends-2-000-Christmas-20-presents-children.html
Do you struggle on your income? I reckon fair 'nuff if she's saved up, but I reckon that "20 presents" thing includes things like, I donno, 50p bar of chocolate or whatever. Or maybe all the artcles she's gonna go in will pay for some of it? Ovbously there is Daily Mail factor in there.
Let's get angry, what pisses you off about the goverment? I'd get them to tell Atos to go do one.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 14:06, 103 replies, latest was 13 years ago)
 She earns less than me a month and has to look after two kids.
	She earns less than me a month and has to look after two kids.I don't have £2k to spend on myself at christmas.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 14:07, Reply)
 I think I might be able to start doing that.
	I think I might be able to start doing that.I bought something on credit thats costing me £300/month 'till it's paid off, and I'm doing tight-but-alright on it, so I might continue doing that after I've paid it off, or a similar amount anyway. Possibly. Or I might buy somethings else on interest-free credit on a similar basis. I donno.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 14:13, Reply)
 Better to save it generally. Interest free credit seems great, but in reality you can usually get it cheaper somewhere else by buying straight up.
	Better to save it generally. Interest free credit seems great, but in reality you can usually get it cheaper somewhere else by buying straight up.(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 14:15, Reply)
 Depends on what it is, on this case it was a macbook, which is the same price where ever you go.
	Depends on what it is, on this case it was a macbook, which is the same price where ever you go.I was thinking like a super 3D telly with all the gubbins from RIcher Sounds.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 14:16, Reply)
 It depends, the Active and Smart ones can be really good, but they ain't cheap.
	It depends, the Active and Smart ones can be really good, but they ain't cheap.(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 14:31, Reply)
 A family sat around with expensive extra glasses
	A family sat around with expensive extra glasseswatching movies where they add a few scenes to make it 3D but generally adds little or nothing to storyline, and for that reason I’m out.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 14:36, Reply)
 The coolest thing I've seen done is with the passive ones you can watch two things at the same time with headphones.
	The coolest thing I've seen done is with the passive ones you can watch two things at the same time with headphones.Not worth the money though.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 14:37, Reply)
 I have "bling" plans for:
	I have "bling" plans for:Media Centre
NAS box
Sonos system
Smart TVs
when we get shifted
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 14:38, Reply)
 I've asked for a rasbery pi for christmas, so I might use that as a simple media server attached to NAS and my TV.
	I've asked for a rasbery pi for christmas, so I might use that as a simple media server attached to NAS and my TV.(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 14:39, Reply)
 Ditto, I don't have anything close to that to spend on me this christmas.
	Ditto, I don't have anything close to that to spend on me this christmas. She could earn a few bob writing a book / doing a telly show, and giving out tips, this could launch a career for her in that respect.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 14:11, Reply)
 Selling her story to closer once a year probably gives her a couple of hundred quid.
	Selling her story to closer once a year probably gives her a couple of hundred quid.(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 14:13, Reply)
 ALL TEH CHEESE
	ALL TEH CHEESEwww.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4689600/Tennis-ace-Djokovic-buys-entire-2013-supply-of-worlds-dearest-cheese.html
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 14:11, Reply)
 Don't read either
	Don't read eitherand no-one "reads" the Sun, they look at the front page pic, the tits and then go to the sport page.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 14:23, Reply)
 you forgot this
	you forgot this"and"
better than a strikethrough in this case surely
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:00, Reply)
 i think it's a "joke" with many alternative scooby doo endings
	i think it's a "joke" with many alternative scooby doo endingsunfortunately the learned reverend got so overexcited that he has popped off to deal with it rather than play along
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:14, Reply)
 If it's not too personal a question, how much do you actually pay off of your debts a month?
	If it's not too personal a question, how much do you actually pay off of your debts a month?(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 14:16, Reply)
 Here's something you can get behind.
	Here's something you can get behind.www.lbc.co.uk/picture-judge-praises-talented-graffiti-gang--64256/album/the_work_graffiti_gang__should_be_proud_of_/1920#27772
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:02, Reply)
 I don't struggle at all,
	I don't struggle at all, There is stuff I'd like but know I can't afford, but nothing that would really make a huge difference to my lifestyle or happiness. Just shiny things really.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 14:23, Reply)
 i struggle for free time really.
	i struggle for free time really. I have to be in the pub so much, when really its dull, because its easier and cheaper. But it means I only ever really get one proper day off a week, and rarely at weekends. I post here a lot, as the pub is empty through a lot of the afternoon, but someone has to be here. I have recently begun to miss my weekends, for the first time since I started this work. I think its because before I could always find someone around for a drink mid-week, but now everyone has settled down a bit and mostly got jobs and left uni, I'm the only one that fancies hitting the town on a Monday night.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 14:54, Reply)
 That sucks a bit.
	That sucks a bit.Is there anything you could do while manning the stations aside this? I donno, you play in a band doncha? How about learning an instriument or doing an at-home course? I guess you could use the kitchen to try things out'n'stuff.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 14:58, Reply)
 Not really, no
	Not really, noWe overpay our mortgage to try and pay it off years early. This will change when we move though, hopefully not too much as my nursery payments are dropping by £270 a month as of now
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 14:31, Reply)
 i kind of do
	i kind of dobut only because i am pretty extravagant and like to buy things for myself and friends
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 14:39, Reply)
 i thought you'd died
	i thought you'd diedi was all, like, waaaah and shit.
no, wait. meh, not waaah.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:12, Reply)
 the subtext of this is that you missed me
	the subtext of this is that you missed meLonely this christmas, swipe?
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:30, Reply)
 yes, like period pains and toothache all rolled into one
	yes, like period pains and toothache all rolled into onelonely over which bit of it? i go to barbados with the family on 21 dec and get back on nye for a party, then back to work on 2 jan. i can probably fit it in somewhere over a rum punch if you tell me when?
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:35, Reply)
 ?
	?They molest her, not the other way around
She's like that old lady I saw on a cop show, where she was giving blowies to underage boys for a fiver and a bag of chips
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:07, Reply)
 Yeah', they still child-molest her even though she's all old or something OH GOD I DONNO DO I
	Yeah', they still child-molest her even though she's all old or something OH GOD I DONNO DO I (, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:14, Reply)
 Not really
	Not reallyNo debts, although that will change when I enter the ludicrous world of London property. In fact I'll be a little better off as it works out cheaper than my current rent.
The government's claim to be open and flexible on drugs policy changes but in the same press conference stating they're not going to change cannabis laws. Also following studies that show that current policy isn't working they just come out and say "no actually it is working" without anything to back it up. *feels blood pressure starts to rise, switches to youtube video of puppies frolicking*
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 14:46, Reply)
 The back up they have is that there is indications that drug use has gone down and now is the lowest since 1996.
	The back up they have is that there is indications that drug use has gone down and now is the lowest since 1996.However assuming that's caused by their current drug policy is a bit of a reach.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 14:48, Reply)
 i hate the way that, whichever party is in power, the opposition just disagree with whatever they do
	i hate the way that, whichever party is in power, the opposition just disagree with whatever they dothey never say, "actually chaps, that one worked ok".
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:00, Reply)
 I also don't see whats wrong with a "u-turn", I'd rather someone say "Hay, this ain't working, lets do something else" than keep on sticking by their guns and making the fuck up worst
	I also don't see whats wrong with a "u-turn", I'd rather someone say "Hay, this ain't working, lets do something else" than keep on sticking by their guns and making the fuck up worst(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:06, Reply)
 That is really annoying
	That is really annoying"Hey we tried it, we've reviewed the results, and they weren't what we wanted so we're going to try something else" would be fantastic. Instead it's all "we've staked our reputation on this so we're pressing on regardless" despite the fact that since everybody knows it's not working they've lost face anyway and are just making it worse.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:11, Reply)
 basically they are too ignorant and/or arrogant to admit it's not working
	basically they are too ignorant and/or arrogant to admit it's not workingOR they think it is working, because it is working for them. see the politicians who insist that the european union and the euro are working fabulously because they like their lifestyles...
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:12, Reply)
 if she has extra money to save each month then she is getting too many benefits fact
	if she has extra money to save each month then she is getting too many benefits factI find one spends whatever is in the bank, regardless of how much it might be.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:01, Reply)
 So if someone gets into debt at the end of each month she should get more benefits?
	So if someone gets into debt at the end of each month she should get more benefits?(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:17, Reply)
 yeah, i have to agree, this is one of the dullest things i've read on here.
	yeah, i have to agree, this is one of the dullest things i've read on here.(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:13, Reply)
 yeah, it's wicked, when you coming over?
	yeah, it's wicked, when you coming over?post something now, do an alright thread.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:34, Reply)
 Nah' man, 'cus on that basis, you should always spend everything you get.
	Nah' man, 'cus on that basis, you should always spend everything you get.(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:12, Reply)
 if she has more money from her dole
	if she has more money from her doleThan she needs for food, accomodation, heating and transport etc then she should give it back.
Otherwise its basically benefit fraud.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:17, Reply)
 However, if she's opted to go for a lesser-rate of all those in exchange for being able to save, then I think thats fair enough.
	However, if she's opted to go for a lesser-rate of all those in exchange for being able to save, then I think thats fair enough.(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:21, Reply)
 but is it really her money?
	but is it really her money?or is she "saving" someone else's money?
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:22, Reply)
 the question that i think anyone who is a long term benefit claimant (the ones who could work but choose not to, not the ones who can't work or can't find a job, obviously) needs to ask themselves is:
	the question that i think anyone who is a long term benefit claimant (the ones who could work but choose not to, not the ones who can't work or can't find a job, obviously) needs to ask themselves is:"where does the money come from?"
do they think the country is a bottomless money pit? or do they think that the rest of us like working every hour god sends to pay for them? in this woman's case, i couldn't care less if you're worse off for working, love. i just want you to pay your share and then i'm v happy for you to get assistance. i don't get it, i would feel horrifically guilty.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:21, Reply)
 totally this
	totally thisi have no idea how much i would have to earn before i couldn't spend it all. i suspect it would be a lot more than my current salary. which is pretty fucking generous considering whom they are paying...
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:13, Reply)
 The government and political parties have a habit of either dumbing down information
	The government and political parties have a habit of either dumbing down informationor talking about it in dense jargon. They should sort out their comunication not to "appeal" to the masses but to explain to the masses.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:10, Reply)
 Yup
	Yuplike the "people on benefits living in £1m house" story.
There's only ever been 5,but they make it sound like hundreds.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:13, Reply)
 Which they have an unequalled ability to talk to.
	Which they have an unequalled ability to talk to.Any time there's a major anouncement every news channel and newspaper comes to them and watches.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:16, Reply)
 "The greater mass of a nation is more easily convinced by a large lie than by a small one"
	"The greater mass of a nation is more easily convinced by a large lie than by a small one"(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:19, Reply)
 Oh this pisses me right off as well
	Oh this pisses me right off as wellwww.guardian.co.uk/politics/shortcuts/2012/dec/11/david-cameron-x-factor-politicians-cool
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:35, Reply)
 I think that pisses me off most about that story
	I think that pisses me off most about that storyis the fact that her two year old daughter has pierced ears.
I mean, FFS, what does a two year old want with an iPad anyway? Give her a craft set and spend time with her making stuff. That's what kids like, isn't it?
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:42, Reply)
 It's not like she doesn't have the time either
	It's not like she doesn't have the time eithergiven she doesn't have a job.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 16:17, Reply)
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