Helloooooooooo!
Anybody there?




Don't let me listen to the blues all alone.
( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 19:26, 177 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

Hello!
Can I listen too please? I have some good blues that I can bring along as well.
(Moniker, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 19:31, Reply)

I don't have a dead dog either.
Or is that country and western.

I'm waiting for everyone's favorite ....


Nobody in town can bake a sweet jelly roll like mine.

Courtesy of Bessie Smith.
( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 19:34, Reply)

Matt Andersen
does some awesome blues guitar. I like him.
(Moniker, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 19:38, Reply)

@Moniker
I'm starting with the early stuff and working my way towards the more modern music.
( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 19:40, Reply)

@Al
Sing it to me baby!
( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 19:45, Reply)

@Al
Isn't John Lee Hooker still alive?

Do you think he would sing it?

Might be worth a shot.
( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 19:53, Reply)

i'm at work
i got the blues real bad.

one of those days where all my drafting has come back covered in red ink.......

GAAAAAH!

*whinges like the attention seeking baby i apparently am*
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 19:54, Reply)

@al
I saw Robert Cray live last year and was actually pretty disappointed. He played with Keb Mo, who was a lot better.
(Moniker, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 19:58, Reply)

I wouldn't bother
hunting any down! But then that's just my opinion. I do like Mr Hooker though, he's awesome.
(Moniker, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:05, Reply)

one of the /talk
muppets. i can't do linkys, but it's on mon bison's comment on the latest page of the qotw.

i happened to have seen a picture of him on flickr once when being nosy and looking for a qotw b3ta bash, which pulled up a different bash without the fluffeh qotw crowd in attendance.

there's only any point being bitchy if the recipient is there to hear it, so i'll just say that he's not exactly my cup of tea, lookswise. possibly not even a blind 80 year old virgin's either, but that would be bitchy...
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:07, Reply)

I feel like I should be drinking Bourbon....
and wearing something low cut instead of drinking red wine and wearing my jim jams.
( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:09, Reply)

i'd love to listen
to cultured stuff like jazz and the blues, but i am far too mainstream.

i'd never let any of you lot see my ipod! i reckon the "most recently played" is very revealing into people's moods etc.

except mine. because i am far too impatient to get to the end of a song, so it never records the fact i've listened to it...
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:11, Reply)

@Rswipe
I've been listening to dance music for years now as I was a bit of a clubber in the past. I just listen to it now when I exercise. I am now going to do what I always wanted to and immerse myself in the blues.


Jazz just makes me want to throw up.
( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:17, Reply)

Evenin' all
I feel bad about my iPod not registering tracks I've listened to, so I will fast forward to near the end rather than just skipping a track.

I'm sad like that.

I do have some Robert Cray on my pod, but it's not really my sort of thing. Jazz, on the other hand, is. It's an acquired taste, and I have a theory that not many people can appreciate it until they reach 30 years old!
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:19, Reply)

ha ha
no, no samwell, but i bet your head is now singing "you wanna do it in my butt? in my butt?"

isn't it??
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:21, Reply)

I don't like your theory K2k6!
I'm not even nearly 30 and very much like my jazz. I have many many hours of it on my iPod. So :P *rasperries*

@al
Oooohh! I LOVE Keith Jarrett!
(Moniker, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:22, Reply)

@Kaol
I can imagine you liking jazz. I can see you in your polo neck and shades nodding your head and clicking your fingers.
( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:24, Reply)

@Al
Having been stupid and bought a computer instead of a laptop, I'm sitting in front of it talking to you and others. It's wine o'clock and I'm taking no prisoners.
( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:26, Reply)

Why?
Are we going to gossip about him?

Edit - Oops! I meant K2K6. Sorry *laughs*
( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:28, Reply)

i've missed
my pub action. finishing a without prejudice offer letter, then home for some stirfry or something orgasmically exciting.

*is very bitter tonight*
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:31, Reply)

Isn't B3ta love grand.
*wants some*

@Rswipe - don't be bitter. It ages you.
( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:33, Reply)

true
it gives you wrinkles around your mouth. although i'll probably get those anyway as a punishment for giving one blowie too many.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:34, Reply)

@Moniker
I said 'not many people' can appreciate jazz until they turn 30. You are evidently one of the few!
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:35, Reply)

Cheers K2k6
My mummy always did say I was special.
(Moniker, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:36, Reply)

@K2K6
Well I'm old and I think It's a pile of poo.

Edit - I did manage to sit through some Trad Jazz a few years ago without wanting to slit my throat.
( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:36, Reply)

reminds me
of that bit in the simpsons when they go to a jazz concert, and lisa says reprovingly, "sssh. you're supposed to listen to the notes they don't play."

and someone (homer?) says, "i can do that at home!!!"
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:38, Reply)

ever seen
the lines round an old smoker's mouth?

now how much bigger is (the average) nob than a cigarette?

you do the maths!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:38, Reply)

@BGB
Polo neck indeed!

I actually prefer to sit nodding my head gently to the 5/4 time signature, appreciating the finer nuances of the discordant harmonies, and looking like I have some idea about what I'm listening to.

Actually, that's bollocks. Modern and avant garde jazz is too self indulgent for me. I do prefer something with a tune of sorts.
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:39, Reply)

*ducks in*
Evening all... currently engaged in moving and cleaning my old place... what fun.

How are we all?

*ducks out*
(Zapiola zip-zap-zop, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:42, Reply)

@rswipe
Taking the average cigarette as say 100mm long and 8mm diameter, and the average cock as 150mm long and 40mm diameter, the cock is one and a half times the length, but 5 times the diameter, so you would have to pucker your lips far more if you smoked.

I think your worries are therefore groundless.
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:44, Reply)

Take heed RSwipe.
He's a scientist so he should know.

Edit - Hi Zapiola - Will you be ducking in and out again?
( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:45, Reply)

christ
and that is why one is never tongue in cheek with a scientist!!

length is very 1990's. girth is where it's at!

however, i am intrigued as to what "men think is average" - pls to enlighten??
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:46, Reply)

^^ What she says.
A short fat cock is the new long thin cock.
( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:48, Reply)

To qualify what BGB said
I am indeed a scientist, but not in the biological sciences, so the effect of extensive lip-puckering on future skin wrinkling is not my field. I'm just applying logic!

And regarding the jazz, BGB - I'm not saying everyone who is over 30 will appreciate it, just that most people have to reach a certain musical maturity to appreciate it. Many over 30s still think it's crap.

I detest rap and hip-hop. But that's a personal opinion. A billion or so people would disagree with me.
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:48, Reply)

@Grosse-madechen-blausen
or however the Germans would say it, probably. Just packed my cuddly Karl Marx and my Mr T statuette... Now I have to figure out how to fit a large Spanish Dictionary and a leather bound copy of the Iliad and the Odyssey that I'd forgetten I had into an already over loaded backpack.

Hopefully will be ducking back at some point. Depends on whether the net works in my new place.
(Zapiola zip-zap-zop, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:49, Reply)

@K2k6
I shall be putting the appreciation of jazz signatures to the test when I go and see Meshuggah in Sheffield in September. Can polyryhthms set off a moshpit?
We shall see.
( Boss Keloid Got your mother's maiden name tattooed on my arm, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:50, Reply)

@Boss K
The idea of thrash metal with experimental polyrhythms is quite fun. Headbanging in 13/8 may not be easy though...

Marillion did the same sort of thing with prog rock, with 7/8 and 5/4 in evidence in quite a few of their songs. But prog rock was all about that sort of thing anyway, whereas metal is not, as a rule.
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:58, Reply)

^^Agrees with Al.
Hi ancrenne. Eaten all the flapjacks yet?
( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:59, Reply)

On cock sizes
I was guessing at the average length, as it's usually reckoned to be about 6 inches, or 150mm. As for girth/diameter, it was just an estimate. 40mm gives a circumference of about 125mm, which is maybe a wee bit more than the average.

EDIT - No, I was right enough. 125 mm is about 5", which seems about right I'd guess.

Another edit - Hello ancrenne!
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:01, Reply)

Well,
by those measurements my penis is mahoosive.

'ning all.
( Madam Marlboro wonders if you've found her yet, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:06, Reply)

@K2k6
Apparently they tend to get respectful attention rather than full-out pits.
I know the songs and the signatures but I keep out the pits these days.
I am quite partial to the odd bit of Marillion though.
( Boss Keloid Got your mother's maiden name tattooed on my arm, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:06, Reply)

Don't know why but I can't take Marillion seriously.
Hi MM - I'd love to see your penis but not in the sexual sense.

Edit - btw my initials are MM which sometimes confuses me a little.
( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:10, Reply)

ancrenne lovely!
I know, we keep missing each other.

al- what I would do if I had the energy and didn't feel like shit today would be to find a photo of a kittin, shop some words onto it, and link it as a joke. Seeing as I am ill you will simply have to imagine it, and react accordingly.

EDIT: Should explain that there are two computers, and my one has teh shop but no internets. I'm not that lazy.
( Madam Marlboro wonders if you've found her yet, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:11, Reply)

@Al
My 7 year old nephew has a non sexual penis. So I would say yes.

Edit - that's why I couldn't take them serious. The lead singer being called Fish.
( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:13, Reply)

@BGB
Re: Marillion - It was probably the face painting that did it!

Their music was great though. They are still playing these days, but it's much more middle of the road than it was.
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:13, Reply)

Hi all
How are we this evening?
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:16, Reply)

Ok I will admit to being crazy about King Crimson once upon a time.
The court of the Crimson King. Played it to death.

*looks sheepish*
( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:16, Reply)

Thanks al
I really appreciate the effort.

Not that ill, just dodgy tummy and all the things that that brings about. And dizziness due to my loss of electrolytes.

*still doesn't quite know what an electrolyte really is, but knows what losing them feels like*
( Madam Marlboro wonders if you've found her yet, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:17, Reply)

dioralyte
sounds like instructions for when things get lairy on the N29 bus back from town - die or alight
( thealternativefact, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:21, Reply)

ancrenne
no I haven't, but it sounds intriguing.....

Curse my sensitive digestion!

applaud my massive penis
( Madam Marlboro wonders if you've found her yet, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:22, Reply)

Knows
Electrolytes are K - potassium, Ca - calcium and Cl - not sure what that one is. *did a lot of blood samples today on the electrolytes machine*

Edit: Not entirely relevent, but it's the first Icanhascheeseburger I made...


( fuck shit up the best you never had, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:22, Reply)

Evening Becky
@MM - an electrolyte is just a solution which contains ions, thus allowing it to carry an electrical current.

What that means in a biological context I have no idea. But to me, it's the fluid found in car batteries, capacitors and the like.

@BGB - King Crimson! Prog rock FTW.

Edit @Becky - Cl=chlorine
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:23, Reply)

K2k6
See, I googled it as I wasn't sure and it said chlorine, but that didn't sound right, so I thought I'd let someone who's better at science than me say it :)
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:27, Reply)

I was referring more
to the way packets of laxatives say "may cause loss of electrolytes" which I vaguely know is body salts and it wakes you a bit wibbly when you lose them.

If anyone wishes to translate this to a more scientific language then I would be happy.

EDIT: has not been taking laxatives, just remembers warning.
( Madam Marlboro wonders if you've found her yet, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:28, Reply)

You need
salts to help you absorb fluid, to do with clever things like osmosis I think. And you need ions for your muscles to work. That's to do with action potentials and the electrostatic balance of intracellular and interstitial fluid. Or something. I think.

*waits to be corrected*
(Moniker, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:29, Reply)

@Becky
To be really pedantic, it would actually be chloride in this context, as it's the ionic rather than the atomic form that we are referring to.

But that's a bit too educational for this time of night.
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:30, Reply)

Moniker
that sounds plausible. Thanks for that.

Ancrenne- a few posts up. It was in small.
( Madam Marlboro wonders if you've found her yet, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:32, Reply)

No it's useful to know
k2k6 as I've had to take diarolyte before when I was first diagnosed with lactose intolerence, but didn't understand the compounds. It's one of the things I've been meaning to ask at work as one of the tests we do is plasma from spun blood to check for levels of the above, bilirubin, alkp, alkt, blood urea nitrogen (bun) and a bunch of other stuff that now escapes my mind.

Edit thanks Al and Moniker too :)
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:34, Reply)

Having briefly skimmed
the beginning of the Wiki entry on Action Potentials, which I hadn't even heard of until 3 minutes ago, I now have at least a very superficial understanding of what Moniker was saying there.

And it seems plausible indeed. But you have to keep your ions balanced, so don't take too much salt in your cider ancrenne, or you'll end up with too much sodium.
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:35, Reply)

Salty cider
sounds like a euphemism to my addled head.
( Madam Marlboro wonders if you've found her yet, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:38, Reply)

It's all very complicated.
A while ago I cut out my salt intake quite severely and then was told that I need salt in my system so I had to re-introduce it which made me happy as I like lots of salt on my chips.
( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:38, Reply)

BGB
Fuckem. Seriously. They can take my fat, they can give me vegetables, but they'll never get my salt.
( Madam Marlboro wonders if you've found her yet, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:40, Reply)

I like reading the clever stuff
but al's 'too much salt will fuck up your kidneys' advice is far more accessible for the likes of me.
( thealternativefact, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:41, Reply)

I've got some miniature scales
for *ahem* miniature cookery, and I actually weighed out 6 grams of salt. It is an astronomical amount, even for a salt junkie such as myself.
( Madam Marlboro wonders if you've found her yet, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:43, Reply)

6g of salt looks like a lot, doesn't it?
Now go and read the nutrition label on your loaf of Tesco bread...
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:46, Reply)

You remember those miniature
baby kittens I posted pictures of a while ago?

Well at that point they weighed 6g each. That's a fucking lot of salt.
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:47, Reply)

Are you sure, Becky?
Surely you mean 60g? A 6g kitten would be REALLY small.
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:50, Reply)

I am extremely interested
in MM's miniature cookery.
Extremely.

Salt, however, I rarely add to stuff.
( thealternativefact, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:51, Reply)

K2k6
This is true. But I cook pretty much everything myself from scratch. Tops i'll have one slice of toast in a day. And without prepackaged shite it's pretty hard to hit 6g.

EDIT: I did actually have a miniature 6 course breakfast in a Danish hotel somewhere. They did a fry up with a quail's egg and a 2 inch long strip of bacon.
( Madam Marlboro wonders if you've found her yet, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:51, Reply)

@MM
You are quite right. But many people eat a lot of processed food without realising the salt content.

I use salt in cooking, but never add extra at the point of consumption. I weaned myself off it a long time back and now don't like salty food much.
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:55, Reply)

I thought you
were Scottish K2k6? Didn't you know that it's compulsory to eat as much salt as you can, to compliment the saturated fats?
(Moniker, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:57, Reply)

Be careful
or I will do a rant about the breakdown of society and family units and how it all boils down to not passing on basic skills such as teaching people to cook in a minute.
( Madam Marlboro wonders if you've found her yet, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:57, Reply)

MM
I was thinking 'cook what in a minute?'
But that's not what you meant, was it?
( thealternativefact, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 21:59, Reply)

Ancrenne
I think me and you should just get together and shout about things at length : )

EDIT: oh al, thank god I wore my corset as I think my sides have just split.
( Madam Marlboro wonders if you've found her yet, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:00, Reply)

Yep
Just a few hours after birth they were 6g

Edit: Yay House is starting ;)
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:00, Reply)

You are correct Moniker
but I thought I'd buck the trend and try to have a decent lifespan. Coming from a country with the lowest life expectancy in Europe isn't good!
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:01, Reply)

Clendrix
nope. I would do a ninja but I think it's already been noted.

Y'all know what I meant.
( Madam Marlboro wonders if you've found her yet, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:02, Reply)

@K2k6
So I can't interest Sir in the house special of a Glasgow Salad (chips with lashings of salt), washed down by the house red (only the finest vintage Buckie)?

Tis a lovely wee place though!
(Moniker, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:05, Reply)

anrenne
it would indeed be fun. If slightly constricting.

my poor stomach...

EDIT: al, I may have ruined the image somewhat there.
( Madam Marlboro wonders if you've found her yet, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:05, Reply)

Fucksox
sorry, was thinking in Oz. Just gone back to work blog and you're right, kitten was indeed 60g. *has teh stupid after long day today*
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:07, Reply)

I have
two corsets, and two rubber dresses. One of my corsets gives me a 22 inch waist, and makes me lose the ability to breathe.

*awaits spluff*
( Madam Marlboro wonders if you've found her yet, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:07, Reply)

@Moniker
I thought the Glasgow salad was chips and cheese? With salt of course.

I never ask for salt in the chippie. They slather so much on the chips are almost inedible.

@Becky - I work in metricness all the time these days, and would struggle to visualise ounces.
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:11, Reply)

K2k6
I have to say the deep fried mars bar I had from the Rose street fry in Edinburgh was one of the best times of my life.

And thanks al. I did have to google it though.
( Madam Marlboro wonders if you've found her yet, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:12, Reply)

I liked the idea of 6g kittens!
But 28g is 1oz, so yes, they would have been very tiny indeed.
( thealternativefact, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:13, Reply)

Evenin' all
Just got an e-mail back from the company that was thinking about interviewing me. Basically, it just said that they still hadn't decided whether or not they want to interview me and should hopefully do so tomorrow. At least I'm glad they're keeping me informed.
( mistaspakkaman and the inedible shifting caterpillars, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:13, Reply)

I think that it depends
on who you ask K2k6. I personally tend to just avoid the chippy!

In fairest Canada, chips and cheese with gravy is called a poutine. I think that's French for heart attack. They even serve it in KFC. They also didn't believe it's a cultural delicacy here too!
(Moniker, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:14, Reply)

That was the only set of scales we had
that were small enough to accurately chart their weight gain over the two weeks we had them and they weighed in Oz only *facepalm*

Mmm...I wants chips and cheese now. With mayo.

Spakka, have you tried saying to them, these are the dates I will be in the UK for, I will be available then and only then? They really sound disorganised, are you sure you'd want to be working for them?
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:17, Reply)

Tiny waists are overrated.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste. A waist is a terrible thing to mind.

EDIT: @beckx: I've already told them the dates and phoned them twice. Apparently, the managing director and technical director were both off sick or on holiday.
( mistaspakkaman and the inedible shifting caterpillars, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:18, Reply)

spakkapants
How are you this eve?
( Madam Marlboro wonders if you've found her yet, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:19, Reply)

i love
salty stuff, except salted popcorn which is the devil's piles. but i try only to add it to food when i eat out, as a treat.

sadly as i am single and live in london, that tends to be most nights!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:22, Reply)

Swipe,
if I could afford a handbag of your proportions, I too would eat out.
( Madam Marlboro wonders if you've found her yet, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:23, Reply)

I'm off to bed folks
Night all.

Tiny waists are not good, btw. So long as the waist is slimmer than the hips it's OK!
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:25, Reply)

If they're both out sick
then I'd be wondering who the monkeys are that they leave in charge that still haven't sorted your interview yet. You have my sympathy as this has been dragging on for ages now.

Rswipe, Salted popcorn is soooo much better than sweet. That stuff is truely vile.

Edit: Living in the high road proved very expensive to me when I moved here, now I try to cook stuff as I became skint rather rapidly.
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:26, Reply)

it seems
to be the way when you've got mates in all different parts of the city. a big group and you can do the pub/bars but if it's just 2 or 3 of you, always seem to end up being lazy and eating out!

my friend's got the bag at the moment. she's developed a taste for it.

@becky - oh no no no!! can we compromise on caramelised??
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:26, Reply)

al
This is true. I am, however, rather fond of my unclogged arteries and working heart.

Night K2k6
( Madam Marlboro wonders if you've found her yet, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:28, Reply)

.
@beckx & ancrenne:
Out of the four companies I've applied for, they're the only one that have even hinted of an interview. However, I plan to arrange some interviews in London to co-incide with the August 23 bash.

@MM
Fine thanks. Just popping here for a bit before I watch the last Starwars film. And yourself?

@ancrenne:
I agree with you about people being who they want. It's just that I hate with a passion the mass-media force-feeding society their vision of the ideal waist-size.

EDIT: 'night K2k6
( mistaspakkaman and the inedible shifting caterpillars, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:28, Reply)

spak
see above for details of my poorly digestive system. Or not, as you may prefer.

MINSTRELS FTW!!!

Or Fry's Turkish delight, but that is harder to come by these days.
( Madam Marlboro wonders if you've found her yet, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:31, Reply)

Caramelised?
Oh god that's even worse. Salted FTW.

4 companies? Christ I applied to 90 places before I got this job, but I don't know how indemand you guys are where you work. I beat out 150 people to get this job *beams*

Night K2k6

I don't agree with the idealised body image we're force fed either. But I also think that magazines are partially responsible for the self loathing that occurs as girls read body concious magazines at such a young age now and they're full of "Lose weight...get the guy of your dreams...feel fitter...lose weight...get this new wardrobe...get the guy of your dreams. I struggled massively with my weight when I was around 15 as I bought into that crap and developed Anorexia and bulimia as a result and it was only when I was in my 20s that I was able to say fuckit I'll be the size I want to be and stop reading the magazines that project this stupid image onto women.
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:35, Reply)

...
I'm in two minds about this. Much as I am currently in the process of complaining to TFL for advertising boob jobs on the tube, I know that my anorexia came from my feeling depressed and out of control. Eating disorders generally come from a bad time in your life. There's a reason we don't have a size 0 epidemic in this country, and that's because ultimately people may idealise something, but won't actually do it.
( Madam Marlboro wonders if you've found her yet, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:39, Reply)

i thought
that quite a few of the people who suffer with it are otherwise happy, reasonably privileged middle class teenage girls. any idea why? is it a control thing?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:43, Reply)

Well mine came about through
other factors that are personal, but magazines played their part and I was stupid enough to go for it. I've always been naturally skinny, but wanted to be supremo skinny.

A, I started reading film magazines exclusively in my 20s and have never looked back. They have never made me question how I look - except for the time I went to a movie characters party, but that's another story ,) I agree, they're just making you feel bad so they can sell a quick fix that will result in you feeling worse when it doesn't happen - hello bikini diets ffs.

MM I'm not a fan of those ads either.
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:44, Reply)

.
Re salt: I rarely add salt to food (but am known to on occasion), but do like salty popcorn. My sister however likes creating miniature salt-molehills on her plate. Sometimes, I wonder if one of us was adopted.

@beckx: Thanks for the sympathy. These things usually drag on for ages. That's why I leave a month in advance to organise them. With luck, they might subsidise part of my travel, but as they're just a small company, this seems unlikely.

As for the number of applications, when I first started out post university, I recon I must have made some 200 appliations, had 20 first interviews and 1½ second-interviews before I got my first job offer. The second time around was still hard, but much easier.

Also, you have my sympathy for having gone through anorexia and bulimia and got to the point where you say "fuck it!".

* hugs *

@ancrenne:
I think I should have said that I dislike the media for brainwashing people. But basically, I agree with what beckx said. Also, it's not just resisting the media yourself, but also resisting your peers who have been brainwashed by the media.

EDIT: My EDIT has become a post of it's own.
( mistaspakkaman and the inedible shifting caterpillars, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:45, Reply)

Guys too
There is an increasing pressure on guys to look good too, my friend Will is addicted to the gym trying to add muscle to a naturally very thin small frame. All in an attempt to get that triangular ripped muscular look.

Damned media, I think I'll stick to my little bit of flab
(quantum raspberry quizzically quashing Quebecans, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:45, Reply)

swipe,
that is exactly what it is, for that sector. There are girls who are pressurised to get good grades, be a music prodigy, and go to oxford and become a doctor. The one semblance of control they can have in their lives they take.

And al, so agreed.

EDIT: I'm probably speaking out of turn here, but I think that the majority of eating disorders stem from needing to be special and in control, far more than achieving a certain look. The accompanying body dysmorphia fucks all possibility of ever achieving that.
( Madam Marlboro wonders if you've found her yet, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:46, Reply)

RSwipe
control? for me yes. A lot of stuff in my life was out of my control at the time, so that was the one thing I felt like I could control and manage by myself. Unfortunately by that point, my world view was so skewiffed that I went a bit OTT with it.

God this is rather cathartic. Sorry people.

Kitteh?
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:46, Reply)

@ancrenne
I also agree with you about your rant.

* hugs *

When we meet, we can both rant about this together! In the meantime, have you heard about Culture Jamming?

EDIT: Hello b1ta.
( mistaspakkaman and the inedible shifting caterpillars, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:49, Reply)

b1ta
I've heard a lot about male anorexia being on the rise. I have some friends who feel really edgy if they haven't been to the gym that day as they NEED to exercise.

I did that a bit when I was kickboxing as I'd HAVE to run those 5 miles before I was satisfied that I'd made the effort or I wasn't good enough.

Al, I adore the Bifidus regularis ads for Activia as they're so obviously made up to sound good, but don't at all :) I want the creater of the ads to stand up and say yeah we were just fucking with you.
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:52, Reply)

...
@ancrenne - nice to meet you too

@mistaspakkaman - Culture Jamming - isn't that just happy clappy anarchism? Edit: hello too

@beckyjsbx - that's exactly what my friend is like, if he misses the gym for any reason he is grumpy, irritable and actually a little violent until he goes again. Not a good mental place to be
(quantum raspberry quizzically quashing Quebecans, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:56, Reply)

@ancrenne
Good. :)

I have an idea or two I'd rather not put up publically. We could discuss it when we're in Exeter :)
( mistaspakkaman and the inedible shifting caterpillars, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 22:58, Reply)

@b1ta
Even if Culture Jamming doesn't topple the stranglehold that the mass media have on our culture, it will give other people hope, make them feel they're not alone, raise their self-esteem to the point that they feel confident in being themselves, or at least just put a smile on someone's face.
( mistaspakkaman and the inedible shifting caterpillars, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 23:03, Reply)

*saunters in*
Hey up all. How's it hangin'?

I so can't pull off being street.

Hows things tonight?
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 23:07, Reply)

Anarchism
I'm for happiness at any price, so not it's necessarily a bad thing at all. Not entirely sure that anarchy is the way for the entire world to go but a few people making a difference and being happy to do it can't be a bad thing
(quantum raspberry quizzically quashing Quebecans, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 23:08, Reply)

Evening PoD
Iz u a wigga now blud?
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 23:13, Reply)

Erm....
What?

Just what?
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 23:16, Reply)

Yes!!
A thousand times yes!!!


I've only had like half a litre of it today.
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 23:18, Reply)

I've been too busy to post
but I must say I have enjoyed tonight's thread immensely!
( thealternativefact, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 23:20, Reply)

Hi POD
* strokes kittums *

I'm going to watch the last Starwars film. I may check up on you guys about halfway thru. See ya later.
( mistaspakkaman and the inedible shifting caterpillars, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 23:21, Reply)

Nevermind PoD
Ooh pants talk A, how did it go?
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 23:22, Reply)

Irn Bru
Does it taste very different with added fluffy kitteh?

Bye spak
(quantum raspberry quizzically quashing Quebecans, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 23:22, Reply)

Basically
any panting news you have!
( thealternativefact, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 23:24, Reply)

How did the most recent one go a?
And bye spak', I'll be gone by your return probably.

That is indeed better m'dear. And things in PoD-land are grand, had a day off, so stopped by at a friends, went shopping, made some flapjacks and some 15s, and then went to the beach all evening.

A good day all in all.
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 23:25, Reply)

i'm
allergic to kittenses. murp. got any hypoallergenic ones over there?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 23:26, Reply)

That's great a
Sounds like thee seem to really be getting places with the business.

I haven't had a chance to try any of the flapjacks yet, we had them at the beach, but seemed to eat large amounts of other stuff, and have a bonfire.
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 23:30, Reply)

I want flapjack
can't be arsed to make it though.

Rswipe:

These we offer to people who want cats but are allergic. They have reduced dander as they have less fur - the bit that makes people allergic - but they will still cause a reaction in some people.

Ooh A, very exciting stuff :)
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 23:31, Reply)

it's mr bigglesworth!
i think i would scream the place down if i woke up to find him sitting on my chest purring at me!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 23:32, Reply)

...
Raspberry and white chocolate flapjacks FTW!

@becky - those cats freak me out, they're horrible to touch
(quantum raspberry quizzically quashing Quebecans, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 23:33, Reply)

Mmm...just had flapjack.
Ancrenne - fab! We like to hear Pant News, especially when it's good!

OK, m'off to bed. See you lovely people tomorrow.
( thealternativefact, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 23:35, Reply)

Oh god now I really want flapjacks
*scowls at b1ta*

Yeah, I know they feel like living suede, only sweaty as well. Not met a nice one either. Only sweary, clawing ones.

Night C
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 23:37, Reply)

I also appear to have got a bout of hayfever from the beach
Which is both highly annoying and strange.
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 23:38, Reply)

Night A
Don't work too hard lovey x
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 23:41, Reply)

Night A
Hope you get loads done this week.

Hows things going bex? Had anything interesting at work recently?

I saw a family out walking a husky the other day on my way home from work. My estimation is that they don't give it enough exercise. Shame.
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 23:43, Reply)

Horrible cats
So not only do they feel like my sofa that my brother has had his sweaty bumcrack on for 2 hours, they're going to scratch my eyes out too? I think I'll stick to the fluffy kind.

Night A
(quantum raspberry quizzically quashing Quebecans, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 23:43, Reply)

You allow your brother to sit nekkid on the sofa?
Ewwwww...gross.

Last week we had pretty much sweet F.A to do, but today we had a baby bird that dropped dead just as I was about to call the birdman to chase him up on why he hadn't collected it after a few hours of waiting, a king charles in for a blood glucose curve - we had to check its blood sugar levels every two hours to see what lack of food and changing its insulin dosage would do. Very sweet dog luckily as some really object to being stabbed with a needle every two hours.

Other than that, just the regular consults, but a lot of blood tests to do in two hours and a rat with a Huuuuuuuge mammary tumour to be put to sleep.

Edit: PoD, most of them don't get enough exercise which is why they end up frustrated and mean. Some are born nasty though.
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Mon 14 Jul 2008, 23:58, Reply)

Naked sofa sitting
No, he just happens to never wear a belt with his jeans, walking round with his arse hanging out the back of them. Nearly as ewww though.

Night all
(quantum raspberry quizzically quashing Quebecans, Tue 15 Jul 2008, 0:03, Reply)

This one just looked like it had all the energy in world built up inside it
I'm hoping that being back at work tomorrow, it won't be too busy and I'll get to leave at 6 like I'm meant to, and not have to stay cleaning for ages.

Sucks about the rat, even though I don't really like them.
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Tue 15 Jul 2008, 0:04, Reply)

That's still
pretty gross though.

If I only got paid until 6pm then I'd fuck off at 6. Or do you get overtime? I stay later in my job now as I enjoy it and get time back in lieu which I can take whenever I need.

Edit: The tumour would have been operable about a month ago if the owners had given enough of a shit to sort it out then, but tonight it weighed more than the rat and was growing more over its body so it had to be PTS. Owners like that piss me off, but that's a rant for another day.
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Tue 15 Jul 2008, 0:06, Reply)

Aww. I think Sphynxes are sort of cute.
But if I had one I'd have to call it Mr Bigglesworth.

Prefer Bengals though:


( Maladicta, Tue 15 Jul 2008, 0:08, Reply)

Only get paid until 6
Could technically put when actually finish on time sheet, but then admin person and boss would have a fit and ask why we weren't finished on time. Apparently customers coming in just as we are closing isn't an excuse.

And I don't particularly enjoy my work. It is essentially just for getting me through the summer and paying for the likes of my new computer.
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Tue 15 Jul 2008, 0:09, Reply)

Hence I'd say fuckit
I'm off at 6 and leave the rest of them to it. If they're only paying you til then then and they're not willing to give you time off or money as overtime then they're in breach of contract...or something. Was never very good at employment law, but very good at standing up for myself and saying fuck off to bosses who expect me to work for free.

Awww, I loves bengals. They're always so afraid when they come into the vets though :(

( fuck shit up the best you never had, Tue 15 Jul 2008, 0:16, Reply)

A fair point
I really hate having to work extra, and they just kind of expect it, then wonder why I'm often in a bad mood when I'm there.

One good thing is that because our schools are off just now and the English one's aren't, there are less people about, as Scots are away on holiday, and the english aren't here on holiday yet.

edit - and I also meant to say night, as I feel I should go and do the sleepy thing now. Have fun days tomorrow all.
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Tue 15 Jul 2008, 0:19, Reply)

Night PoD
So who's left tonight?

Edit: Shit I'm on the early shift tomorrow, so I'm off to bed as well. Night
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Tue 15 Jul 2008, 0:22, Reply)

^ I'm still here!
I'd love a pair of Bengals; Mr Maladicta is keener on the idea of German Shepherd puppies because he's more used to dogs. Doubt we can afford somewhere big enough for both!

Edit: night!
( Maladicta, Tue 15 Jul 2008, 0:37, Reply)

Chat continues
here.
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Tue 15 Jul 2008, 9:10, Reply)