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 If you could make one change or addition to b3ta what would it be?
	If you could make one change or addition to b3ta what would it be?Little pictures by your names?
Some kind of ranking system for bestest b3tan of the week?
A new sub-board?
Alt: You've got 24 hours in the city of your choice with no money. What do you do?
Altalt: How do you sleep at night?
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 11:57, 162 replies, latest was 12 years ago)
 In YM's hair
	In YM's hairOh I forgot to mention my city of choice is whichever one YM is in at the time.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 12:01, Reply)
 The real question for today is:
	The real question for today is:Do you think chicken and squid will go well together in a stir fry?
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 12:05, Reply)
 i don't see why not, chicken isn't exactly overpowering
	i don't see why not, chicken isn't exactly overpoweringdo you not have enough of either or summit?
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 12:10, Reply)
 More crazy people, more well lol people to point and laugh at the crazy people and fewer tedious shitcunts
	More crazy people, more well lol people to point and laugh at the crazy people and fewer tedious shitcuntsAlt: I'll probably just stay in this city and get an early night then.
Altalt: On my side, I think.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 12:08, Reply)
 Basically bring back the likes of Bert and the rest should take care of itself.
	Basically bring back the likes of Bert and the rest should take care of itself.(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 12:09, Reply)
 Naked chicks and cash prizes
	Naked chicks and cash prizesAlt: Go for a stroll probably. Why?
Altalt: On my back mainly, sometimes on my side.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 12:08, Reply)
 Well, leaving aside the fact that Chompy's Rioja isn't priced at £2.50 a bottle, just because a wine is more expensive doesn't mean it will be nicer.
	Well, leaving aside the fact that Chompy's Rioja isn't priced at £2.50 a bottle, just because a wine is more expensive doesn't mean it will be nicer.(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 12:32, Reply)
 I've had a few really nice bottles of wine that cost me..... get this £0
	I've had a few really nice bottles of wine that cost me..... get this £0Yep nothing....zip...nadda...not a penny
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 12:34, Reply)
 He said it was £2.50 a bottle in the very thread you linked to.
	He said it was £2.50 a bottle in the very thread you linked to.And actually, it kind of does.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 12:37, Reply)
 when bought by the dozen and with 40 guid off
	when bought by the dozen and with 40 guid offI suppose you think the bottle of wine you buy in a restaurant is better than the same bottle in a supermarket... because its more expensive.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 12:43, Reply)
 Haha yes, I do. That's exactly my point.
	Haha yes, I do. That's exactly my point.You've beaten me! Well done.
I genuinely can't remember the last time I saw you make an argument that wasn't straw-based.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 12:44, Reply)
 It is priced at £6.99 a bottle, he has a voucher to get money off this price.
	It is priced at £6.99 a bottle, he has a voucher to get money off this price.I make no claims to being any kind of authority on wine, but as I understand it, there is more to the pricing of a bottle than the flavour of the contents.
To go to the other extreme, a bottle dug out of a cellar and sold at auction for thousands of pounds is quite likely to taste a bit shit.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 12:43, Reply)
 If it tasted like shit it wouldn't be worth any money at all.
	If it tasted like shit it wouldn't be worth any money at all.Bottling costs work out at about £3 a bottle. This is pretty standard across the industry, though there is some deviation from place to place. Therefore if you're paying a fiver, you're getting £2 worth of wine. For that money, it's going to be pretty poor quality. You may well get some perfectly drinkable wine, yes. However, if you spend a tenner, you're getting wine that's worth £7. The difference in quality is going to be noticeable.
Obviously, like all things, the law of diminishing returns applies and there's always going to be exceptions. However, across the broad spectrum, the more you spend, the better the wine.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 12:47, Reply)
 I dislike it to the point I would rather pay that money for Chompy's homebrew
	I dislike it to the point I would rather pay that money for Chompy's homebrewthan drink it
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 12:57, Reply)
 Dunno, I prefer beer.
	Dunno, I prefer beer.What I meant was a very old bottle of wine, something bottled in 1750 or summat, where there would be no way of knowing what it would taste like.
It is often the case where a 'cheap wine' is hailed by wine experts as perfectly drinkable or as good as a more expensive brand.
I'd also assume that at some point in the pricing there is a levelling out in the quality and other factors are at play.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 12:59, Reply)
 Other factors being, rarity, or the desire of some rich prat to be seen chucking money at stuff because he can.
	Other factors being, rarity, or the desire of some rich prat to be seen chucking money at stuff because he can.Second one is champagne, definitely.
First one definitely applies to whisky - one of my mates is a whisky bore, he has at least one bottle worth over £1k, not because it's fantastic to drink, but cos there are very few bottles left.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 13:10, Reply)
 Ok then explain why I can buy wine bottles at about £10 for 15 and corks for about 15p each.
	Ok then explain why I can buy wine bottles at about £10 for 15 and corks for about 15p each.At home I'm 1/3rd the price of your quoted bottling figure.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 13:12, Reply)
 Or people to pay, or land to rent, or much in the way of any kind of overheads at all.
	Or people to pay, or land to rent, or much in the way of any kind of overheads at all.(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 13:14, Reply)
 Then say overheads not bottling.
	Then say overheads not bottling.Then try to understand that the overheads on a mail order, bulk sell specialist business will be different than other places to get wine.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 13:17, Reply)
 Ah, a semantic argument.
	Ah, a semantic argument.OK, nice work. You're much cleverer than me.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 13:18, Reply)
 Arguing about the value of a product then quoting a figure that is wrong is more than just semantics.
	Arguing about the value of a product then quoting a figure that is wrong is more than just semantics.(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 13:20, Reply)
 It's not wrong
	It's not wronghe's separated the "cost of the actual drunk product" which varies with quality and the "cost of everything else associated with conveying that prodcut to a drinker's gob" which, of course, doesn't particularly. He's just called it bottling costs to simplify, and you are just trying to win through semantics.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 13:24, Reply)
 Those fixed costs are SIGNIFICANTLY different by buying cases of 12, paying delivery seperatly and getting it from a specialist wine club.
	Those fixed costs are SIGNIFICANTLY different by buying cases of 12, paying delivery seperatly and getting it from a specialist wine club.To the point that him saying that they account for £3 of the £6.99 bottle is meaningless.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 13:27, Reply)
 You mean distribution, unpacking from the cases of 6 or 12 that they are shipped in, and stacking on a shelf?
	You mean distribution, unpacking from the cases of 6 or 12 that they are shipped in, and stacking on a shelf?OK, I'll concede that extra penny per bottle.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 13:29, Reply)
 And the cost of the possibly hundreds of local sites rather than one or two national warehouses.
	And the cost of the possibly hundreds of local sites rather than one or two national warehouses.The staffing costs?
It's the difference between amazon and your local bookshops.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 13:31, Reply)
 Haha, yes, sweetheart.
	Haha, yes, sweetheart.This definitely looks like another victory for Team Chompy, here.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 13:34, Reply)
 If Amazon only sold books.
	If Amazon only sold books.In the same way that Tesco only sells wine. Oh, wait.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 13:35, Reply)
 glucks guide
	glucks guidealways used to be good for this in that he would rate the wine not only by its taste but also its value... You would find some surprising ones rate very highly.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 13:09, Reply)
 Alt: go and get some fucking money so as not to waste 24 hours being a tramp.
	Alt: go and get some fucking money so as not to waste 24 hours being a tramp.altalt: like a baby. I wake every couple of hours screaming and covered in my own filth.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 12:18, Reply)
 I think I'd start with the left-field "going to a cash machine"
	I think I'd start with the left-field "going to a cash machine"if that failed, sucking off sailors down the docks for pennies, obvs.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 12:37, Reply)
 Am I to late for the 2000000th post?
	Am I to late for the 2000000th post?we could do with a way of making a musical note appear in the body of our text*
*Well I would like to be able to do this
Alt:Amsterdam, I know an area I could make some money and have fun at the same time
Altalt: Upside down like a bat**
**This may not be true
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 12:31, Reply)
 Give each poster a space where they can post what they like.
	Give each poster a space where they can post what they like.let's call it a 'wall'. They can write a 'status report' of what they're up to, or add videos, pictures etc.
The rest of us could then comment or ignore as we choose.
Maybe keep the 'like' button and 'friend' facility that we have on here.
Seriously though, I don't think it's the site that's the problem. The site itself was just the same back in what we now consider /qotw and /OT's heyday. It's mostly just down to a large number of interesting/fun posters leaving, and more trolls moving in.
Alt: I choose Edinburgh. I'd wander over to DJ and Roota's, and mooch off them for a day.
AltAlt: really fucking badly.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 13:06, Reply)
 I think it's more that old posters haven't been replaced by fresh meat.
	I think it's more that old posters haven't been replaced by fresh meat. People are always going to slowly drift away, but the site no longer draws the crowds it once did.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 13:16, Reply)
 I lurked a bit back in the day when it was a bustling hub of hilarity and a gem of the Internet.
	I lurked a bit back in the day when it was a bustling hub of hilarity and a gem of the Internet. Then I stopped looking at it for a few years, occasionally dropping in for the odd newsletter, or a browse around links. Then I was hospitalised for a few months and started posting on talk to try kill the boredom.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 13:26, Reply)
 I'd add a little alarm, that every time some horrible bully is put on ignore,
	I'd add a little alarm, that every time some horrible bully is put on ignore, We all get a gaz as well so we know to ignore the horrid bully trolls as well.
Alt: I'd spend my day in London, enjoying all the free attractions I've heard so much about, then I'd get involved in the local culture by shoplifting some cheap high strength booze and drink it on the tube.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 13:14, Reply)
 Well, you could buy it in a case for an introductory offer.
	Well, you could buy it in a case for an introductory offer.Be warned though, it's likely to be of an inferior quality.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 13:33, Reply)
 look, you know it's not, I know it's not
	look, you know it's not, I know it's notDo you only eat "value" food and only buy your clothes in charity shops?
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 13:43, Reply)
 no, but i'd like real reared and tasty meat, clothes that fit and look good, a car that works and oesn't break down etc etc
	no, but i'd like real reared and tasty meat, clothes that fit and look good, a car that works and oesn't break down etc etcbecause I've spent an amount of money on them above the bare minimum thus recieving better quality and over time better value.
Now be quiet and stop trolling.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 13:46, Reply)
 They're £4000 each.
	They're £4000 each.But they're very good beans and will technically last forever and give you an infinite supply of more beans if you treat them well.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 13:46, Reply)
 When did I say it was better?
	When did I say it was better?You seem to be putting words in my mouth.
(, Wed 26 Jun 2013, 13:42, Reply)
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