so more surgeons are having their stats published
would you be concerned if your proposed surgeon had a higher death rate, or would you want more research/factors than a sensationalist daily mail graph?

alt: do you do your research when you buy anything, or do you leap right on in there and buy it because it looks good/costs the right amount?

altalt: i see some poor sod has been bitten in half by a shark, just a few metres from the beach. not a good way to go. do what you want with this.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:19, 143 replies, latest was 12 years ago)

hodorhodor

(how long does it take to delete an account anyway? Hail Frog! Hail Frog! Hail Frog! Hail Frog! Hail Frog! Hail Frog! Hail Frog! Hail Frog! Hail Frog! Hail Frog! Hail Frog! Hail Frog! Hail Frog! Hail F, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:25, Reply)

Sympathy reply?

( Reginald Donkeyfuck, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:26, Reply)

this "joke" has already worn thinner than Frank.

(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:28, Reply)

I think he makes a good point

( Reginald Donkeyfuck, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:35, Reply)

He's made more sense so far than many others have previously.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:39, Reply)

I have to say, he's winning me over with this persuasive argument.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:39, Reply)

Alt: I'm a researcher when it comes to shopping.
Reviews, price comparisons etc - all good practices which my kindly employer pays me to do.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:26, Reply)

kindly cunthorse
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:26, Reply)

Hahahahaha.
What a cunthorse!
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:27, Reply)

typical cunthorse!

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:31, Reply)

yay! stunned!!

( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:39, Reply)

It's a little like teaching stats
If you have dumb kids to teach/sicker patients your results can be worse through no fault of your own, it's not as simple as the politicos like to make out. Yes you need to monitor people's performance but not with a blunt instrument.
Increased death rates in some trusts are more likely to do with cost-cutting and outsourcing to the lowest bidder while employing more managers than nurses.

alt: research where possible, I like shiny pointless gadgets as much as the next man but read up on them first!

alt: ouch, but you can't beat several million years of evolution.
(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:26, Reply)

Last night I monitored YM's performance with my blunt instrument!!!!
GEDDIT, YOU KNOW, LIKE 'HAVING SEX'?!!!!
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:32, Reply)

Yer, and she said you were crap and not to bother again.

(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:36, Reply)

Oh man you've flipped this 'zong' right back on me!!!!!!

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:40, Reply)

That's what she said!

(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:41, Reply)

I tend to ignore any 'research' the Mail prints.
Alt: I tend to see how much it is in store, then crank up Amazon/Play/etc and see how much I can get it for on there. Unless it's clothing, or something like that.

AltAlt: Swimming in a forbidden area, unsupervised? Fucking deserved it.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:28, Reply)

Yeah cos otherwise a lifeguard would have waded in and punched the motherfucking shark right in its motherfucking ear !

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:44, Reply)

A lifeguard would (hopefully) have told her to get the fuck out of the water

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:47, Reply)

Natural selection in action
A part of the coastline that is forbidden due to the number of sharks.
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:59, Reply)

People can't help but be worried but someone specialising in a complicated procedure is probably going to lose more patients than someone who removes moles or something
Plus when you go for surgery they are quite blunt and tell you what your chances of dying are before you sign the consent form.

Alt. Research, because I have more sense than money.

AltAlt. WHat is a good way to go? Peacefully in your sleep aged 80 with a hot woman's mouth around your cock I guess. Well not your cock obviously. But hey ho I think being bitten in half is a pretty quick death. Better that than half a leg and bleeding out on the beach. Sand would get in the wound and that would be really irritating as you died.
( Peej, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:31, Reply)

that was nearly the altalt
but then i decided it was too depressing
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:03, Reply)

It's pretty pointless, isn't it?
How many people are going to be able to glean any useful information on deciding which surgeon to choose?
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:33, Reply)

Errm....Hordor?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:34, Reply)

Dubs
Check 'em
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:36, Reply)

hahaha yeah hordor hahahahah

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:38, Reply)

I thought they had to be at the end?

( Reginald Donkeyfuck, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:38, Reply)

I don't really know the rules for this great game.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:39, Reply)

I get the impression people aren't taking it seriously
I'm sure there should be a picture of someone pointing or something
( Reginald Donkeyfuck, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:41, Reply)

Yeah, that guy I've never heard of from that film I've never seen makes the perfect meme I don't know from a website I've never been on

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:43, Reply)

It's my favourite too!!!

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:48, Reply)

Only if we're having a laugh, here.

(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:39, Reply)

specifically a right laugh
none of your left laughing
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:52, Reply)

The meme you can't just walk into?

(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:38, Reply)

It's just the usual modern corporate bollocks where if you can't measure something, it doesn't exist.
Which then justifies the job of the manager to measure it, as measurement is all that distinguishes most middle managers from a hole in the ground.
(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:35, Reply)

This is the point though, trying to measure and compare something that can't easily be measured or compared.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:38, Reply)

i agree
but i also think there might be a bit of gut instinct - surgeon A has a 99.8% success rate and surgeon B has a 90.2% success rate, arrrrgh, change me quick.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:35, Reply)

I know you hold a lot of store in the importance of statistics.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:37, Reply)

i could sneer and say that they just get twisted
but that's what i spend my day doing too. you only realise how much you think like a lawyer when you see how non-lawyers read things.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:38, Reply)

lawyer cunt
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:55, Reply)

The quality of milfs at the play group today is very poor.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:35, Reply)

i am now picturing you in drag
shudder
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:36, Reply)

You are one sick individual.

(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:37, Reply)

Pervert

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:37, Reply)

well, you would make a crap milf

( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:40, Reply)

As well as a crap husband.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:50, Reply)

I get by this by refusing to be I'll (ill)
Alt: Yes, any item that will have an impact on my life and lifestyle is researched.

Alt:alt: I saw this yesterday and thought ewwwwwwwww.
metro.co.uk/2013/07/13/peckish-eel-takes-giant-chunk-out-of-divers-cheek-in-galway-3881185/
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:36, Reply)

there is something quite philosophical about that typo

( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:36, Reply)

Morning.
Alt, research all the way.
Altalt, Fonzie jumped the shark. He's well cool.
Anyway, what's this hodor thing?
(Pookie Bear had some very shiny foez, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:45, Reply)

Just finished a third interview...think I went well, thanks for asking

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:47, Reply)

How'd the interview go?
I' really, genuinely interested.
(Pookie Bear had some very shiny foez, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:49, Reply)

Very well thanks will hopefully hears yet today
This was to meet my boss's boss
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:53, Reply)

How many interviews are there?

(Pookie Bear had some very shiny foez, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:54, Reply)

This should be it, had a telephone interview, 2nd and 3rd interview's plus a presentation

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:56, Reply)

Powerpoint?
Please, make it Powerpoint.
(Pookie Bear had some very shiny foez, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:58, Reply)

Of course
Nothing wrong with ppt just the people that use it
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:59, Reply)

I talked to the surgeons who did my spinal fusion and teh revision operation...
... and asked them how many they'd done, how familiar were they with the procedure etc. Also spoke to the anaesthetists well before the ops. I'd rather go by this that some blunt instrument statistical table, you can gauge their reactions to very direct questions better than you can find anything out from stats.
Alt: Inveterate researcher for most things.
Altalt: The sea is where sharks are better predators than we are - don't go in!
(Captain Placid 24/7 ball gags, brownie mix and clown porn, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:47, Reply)

I was taken to see Priscilla the Musical last night
How it has got great reviews I can't understand. The little kid couldn't sing or act *Surprised*
( Peej, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:49, Reply)

All musicals are shit
I can only imagine a local rendering by theRedruth players to be even worse
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:53, Reply)

It was part of the UK tour of the broadway musical.

( Peej, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:00, Reply)

All musicals are shit

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:02, Reply)

Thank you Paul Ross

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:53, Reply)

He's no Johnathan.

(Pookie Bear had some very shiny foez, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:56, Reply)

I went to see Battered perform on stage once and from where I was sitting he looked really small.
I saw him close up after the show and guess what.
( Peej, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:01, Reply)

Was he playing a banjolele?

(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:02, Reply)

Of course I'd be concerned. I wouldn't want Drunken McSawbones McBastard operating on me if I had the chance for Mr Terribly Nice And Tidy instead.
Alt: Anything over C£30 gets researched.

Altalt: I've managed to avoid being bitten in half by sharks by not swimming in shark-infested water. Likewise I've managed to avoid being shot in Afghanistan by not joining the army.

Please can I come and play here? QOTW has gone to absolute hell in a handcart you couldn't make it up. Please?
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:56, Reply)

Sure you can, Vaggsy.
It's fucking shit over there, wouldn't wish that on my worst emvee, sorry enemy.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:58, Reply)

More the merrier really
Just try not to be a pussyhole eh bruv?
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:01, Reply)

I'll do my very best.

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:27, Reply)

I don't really care about stats
I'd like to meet my surgeon first, though, just to see if his hands tremble.

Altalt: metro.co.uk/2013/07/12/new-giant-rubber-lips-will-make-you-look-younger-3880130/

younger like a sextoy
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:58, Reply)

look younger stick to windows all too easily.
(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:00, Reply)

Your point is?

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:01, Reply)

I clicked on HH's metro link up there and it was in the sidebar
so I thought I'd bring it to more general attention.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:02, Reply)

The metro is retarded

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:02, Reply)

'yesterday's Standard - today!!!'

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:13, Reply)

I forgot about that one, ment to link it yesterday

( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:08, Reply)

That is repulsive.

(Pookie Bear had some very shiny foez, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:01, Reply)

This is better
metro.co.uk/2013/07/13/things-on-my-nan-twitter-account-top-10-pictures-3881190/
( Two Hats 🎩🎩, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:04, Reply)

God, she looks common

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:05, Reply)

Even with a dyson on her head, she still looks common

( Two Hats 🎩🎩, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:08, Reply)

Quite so. I feel...violated.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:08, Reply)

Haha

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:25, Reply)

I've got 'hooked on a feeling' as an earworm

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:04, Reply)

'hooked on a feeling' as an earworm a pink Hackett polo shirt on, popped collar (natch), mustard cords, boating shoes and a casually-draped jumper about my shoulders. For, you see, I am a massive Fogleprick who buys suits Dozer approves of. Feel free to spike me with powerful hallucinogens.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:07, Reply)

Hahaha
Alright Boyce?
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:08, Reply)

Yeah boyee.
I've had a great few days and this coming weekend have my kid ALL WEEKEND. Friday night up til dropping her at school Monday morning.

I am ecstatic.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:09, Reply)

I might take her camping or down to my mother's.
This is BIG, yo.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:10, Reply)

Be careful she doesn't catch gay off your mother.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:12, Reply)

+s

( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:13, Reply)

Great stuff, camping sounds like an excellent idea

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:15, Reply)

We were in Epping Forest on the weekend
and it seems you can camp there, so doable without a car, on the overground from by my house in half an hour. Zone 5. You can hire firepits so bonfire, barbecue etc. She really want to go - she told Lusty she has her own camping kit. Apparently this consists of 'camouflage, for your face'.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:19, Reply)

psst
no real names on the internet... rupert...
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:20, Reply)

OK... 'Opping Forest' it is

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:20, Reply)

hahaha
there is some nightclub there - opping forest country club, i think it is - my essex mates from uni bloody love that place
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:22, Reply)

Huzzah!

( Two Hats 🎩🎩, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:17, Reply)

Wizard!

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:18, Reply)

Bully!

( Two Hats 🎩🎩, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:19, Reply)

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( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Jul 2013, 11:42, Reply)