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(, Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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I'm starting to hallucinate from sleep deprivation I think. Baby turns 4 months tomorrow, and has spent the last week waking every 45 minutes during the night.
I just want to whinge really, but as I need an obligatory question, I'll ask this - do you have a bedtime routine, and if so, what is it? Mine is currently - hand baby to mrVitC, go and do my teeth, get into my pyjamas (or whatever clothing I have that hasn't been covered in baby vom/piss/shit), then lie down in bed to feed baby. Very dull. Used to involve less baby and more practice-for-making-baby, but that's no longer possible.
God, I'm exhausted and horny. Not a good combination.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 13:50, 120 replies, latest was 16 years ago)
Read for one hour, check my alarm clock several times to make sure it's set and then stare out the window until I drop off.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 13:53, Reply)
Throw something greasy at my face.
Read or fart around on netbook until I feel my eyes roll in my head.
Remember to set alarm clock.
Look around for cat.
Unconscious in seconds.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 13:56, Reply)
Generally, Mrs V will go to bed at about 10pm, I will then have a spliff, watch a bit of tv, then read my book. depending on how good the book is I will go to bed anywhere between half 11 and half 12. possibly another spliff will be involved.
alternatively, if I don't introduce spliffs into the equation: go to bed at about half 11, lie awake for 2-3 hours, get up, read a bit, go back to bed, have shit sleep, wake up too early
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 13:57, Reply)
Current routine:
Watch Law and Order: SVU until I realise it's nearly 11pm and I'm falling asleep.
Nag Catface to go to bed since he has to get up at 7am and wakes me in the process.
Fill hot water bottle to warm foot of the bed.
Pee, clean face, brush teeth.
Get into bed and attempt to get warm.
Get up and find socks, put on socks, get back into bed.
Get warm.
Realise I need to pee again.
Get up to pee.
Get back into bed and repeat warming procedure.
Listen to the sound of my pulse booming in my left ear.
Fall asleep.
Get woken by Catface when he comes to bed.
Pee again.
Sleep, waking only twice during the night to pee.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 13:59, Reply)
I'd almost forgotten the constant peeing of pregnancy. and the constant vomiting. It's such a magical time.
baby gets away with his horrendous sleeping by being cute though. luckily for him...
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:05, Reply)
2. lose will to live
3. dive into bed and either flake straight out or read about Genghis Khan until asleep
*what a ghastly term, I am most terribly sorry for repeating it.
OR:
1. take drugs
2. drink until 'confused'
3. stagger off to bed (I'm assuming - waking up in bed not on sofa)
4. Stop! Comatime.
Pretty rubbish 'existence' really
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:01, Reply)
I look up at the sky to see if I can see the stars.
Come inside, have a glass of water
Brush my teeth
Pee
Make sure lights are turned off
Go to my room, check my alarm
Read
Check my alarm
Read
Check my alarm
Close closet doors, strip, turn ceiling fan on, turn light off
get into bed
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:03, Reply)
they are even worse if they snore.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:04, Reply)
I've trained myself not to sleep on my back, but you know, sometimes...
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:06, Reply)
it's not like picking your nose, you know. It's not some annoying habit.
Anyway, I mostly don't snore, but I'm defending my right to snore. People who don't snore should stop being pansy-arsed light-sleepers.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:10, Reply)
which is the most comfortable bed ever devised, let alone other uncomfortable beds, or on transport.
If I go away to stay somewhere I have to get really drunk or stoned so I can sleep at all.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:10, Reply)
And in parties I fall asleep with my eyes open.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:14, Reply)
if my best friend's there she wakes me really nicely by stroking my face and telling me to stop frightening everyone.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:16, Reply)
I'd been up all the night before travelling home from holiday and should not have gone out that night.
Silly boy.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:17, Reply)
despite the regular THX-infused bass earthquakes and frantic action sequences. I only woke up when the credits rolled. I didn't miss much apparently.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:19, Reply)
I sometimes can't sleep if the housemates have people over. I hate it.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:12, Reply)
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:23, Reply)
This side three years ago I was out every night drunk until 3 or 4 in the morning and up by 7.
Now I'd better get 7 hours at least or it's all tits up.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:31, Reply)
not sleeping as much as I'd been led to believe, and by the sound of things has just filled his nappy for the 4th time today, but he's lovely anyway :)
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:06, Reply)
Those pesky hormones can get you at any time.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:10, Reply)
My hormones have wanted them for years, but the practical side tells me to double up on contraception methods.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:11, Reply)
Kids love me. I don't think they'd like me for a mother.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:54, Reply)
It already exists right? I don't have to push it out of my Mary, right?
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 15:04, Reply)
she seems to be increasingly put off by other people's though which is a good sign. I'm tempted to have the snip so there is no risk of an accident.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:13, Reply)
...and found out a week later his Mrs was pregnant.
It gets funnier.
Twins.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:16, Reply)
He did not see it that way.
Worst is he had to go back for a second snip and ended up with internal bleeding after the op. BUPA too.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:21, Reply)
guess not...
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:29, Reply)
Very easy procedure with a 99%+ success rate - don't worry.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:32, Reply)
about seeing your own mini-me...it's fucking mental.
I never wanted kids and could never understand the attraction - but having fatherhood foisted upon me I can honestly say that even with all the myriad nightmares, court appearances and stress it has brought me, it's still far and away the best thing I've ever done.
Even better than the Treworgey Tree Fayre of 1989. which took some beating.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:27, Reply)
I'd be happy enough with an unwanted kid.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:30, Reply)
I can only envisage terrible scenarios where it ends up splitting me and the mrs up or something. Add to that the fact that we'd be financially fucked if it happened anytime soon, and it all adds up to something quite offputting.
People tell me I'd be a good dad all the time. All this does is tell me that they don't know me very well at all.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:31, Reply)
You just do it and cope somehow. Lots of people do.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:34, Reply)
but it'd be fucking shit. Currently, my salary would pay the mortgage and the bills, barely. and that's it. no food, no fun.
I don't want to "cope", I want to be able to enjoy myself. Some people can do that with kids. I doubt my capacity for it.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:36, Reply)
DID happen to me and it's still the best thing ever.
I used to scoff at people telling me I'd be a great dad - and I still do. I have a sickening feeling that I am a terrible, terrible father and this does not seem to be abating.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:37, Reply)
as we seem to be generally like-minded, and had the same fears, and you like it. I'm not convinced though, and not changing my mind.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:39, Reply)
I was very, very much of the opinion that 'why the fuck would I want children? I don't mind them in small doses but generally the little cunts are fucking annoying. Also, why would I want to bring a child into this overpopulated and generally disgusting world?'
This, coupled with the depressing realisation that I was never going to be able to provide the idyllic childhood that I had (it was like Swallows & Amazons or something) for my own children, and the fact that I am an irresponsible wastrel, meant I was convinced I'd never breed.
You know what I'm like - but really, truly it is utterly incredible. I feel like I actually have a purpose in life rather than merely drifting along occupying myself with drugs and drink and larking about.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:47, Reply)
There are good reasons to have kids no doubt, but the pro reasons that actually sway me slightly are all completely selfish.
I've not got to the point where I feel I lack purpose, not yet anyway
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:52, Reply)
I think the way I'm really feeling is, that if it happened by accident it'd be fine, as long as we were in a better position financially. That's the trouble, and that is what is really making me negative on it at the moment. We are fine as we are, both got good salaries for our ages etc. but even for a short time if the mrs was up the duff we would really really struggle, which would be fucking shite.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:57, Reply)
Honestly - it's nearly bankrupted me (I'd hope you didn't need to spend 6k on fucking parasitic lawyers like I did) and I don't care a jot. When you see their cheeky little faces nothing else on earth matters one bit.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 15:00, Reply)
but I'd first have 9 months of freaking out to get through. I don't want to have to go through that.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 15:03, Reply)
I was at college and the wife was at Uni, living in a rented flat. We never had fillet steak every night, but we got by. The thing is, having a kid, a joint responsibility negates the need for lots of other things that used to fill your time and that you previously consider important or worthwhile.
Women get maternity pay or you may well qualify for family tax credits, you also get child benefit and various other 'benefits'.
There is definitely no 'good' time to have a kid, but in the 9 months that it takes for it to appear, you are primed and ready to go. Yes it is hard work, yes it is boring yet constantly changing. Then comes all the priceless moments, the unconditional love, the playing, laughing, helping them experience brand new things, seeing their delight, watching them become more and more independent, watching them succeed, helping them when they fail, teaching them right from wrong etc.
Until you have done enough to make them into a teenager.....then the fun really begins ;-)
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 15:12, Reply)
well done ;-)
I'm still not convinced, but am less terrified.
just thought of another reason against. I would be unable to prevent myself from giving a child a ridiculous name. I think Six and Seven are good names, and a lot of stuff from Greek mythology.
That alone should disqualify me from parenthood
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 15:16, Reply)
a discussion in the pub the other night led to this:
got problems with premature ejaculation? Look on the bright side. At least you'll be able to carry out rapes quickly.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 15:19, Reply)
Anything after that is a bonus for them.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:42, Reply)
but I'd say that makes up about a quarter of what a kid needs from a parent.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:45, Reply)
I wouldn't too much into adopting, it would feel like one really long babysitting session.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:36, Reply)
I think for me, having an adopted kid myself would be the same.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:38, Reply)
I suspect everyone is too polite to say.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:11, Reply)
that everyone is so polite. There's far too much vulgarity in this world without us all adding to it.
What's frightening is that whilst I typed that, I actually believed it, in a kind of weary way.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:19, Reply)
Which is why i do it with the light out, under the covers, with my eyes closed to minimise the guilt. Plus the fact the gerbils prefer the dark.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:23, Reply)
is scream the Lord's Prayer whilst crying, as I masturbate. It does upset my cellmate somewhat, but then the prospect of what I'd do if I didn't get that release is so terrifying to him, he doesn't say anything, any more.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:30, Reply)
...not too much mind. You don't want any little mishaps.
Kate McCann
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:26, Reply)
never did me any harm, although I do hate rum these days
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:29, Reply)
...breasty milk helps kids sleep and works better than formula.
Trust me, I'm a doctor.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:30, Reply)
but breast milk is digested faster than formula, hence more wakings. still, worth it to stop me from having to sterilise endless bottles and actually get out of bed in the night.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:39, Reply)
...in the morning when there are less nucleotides and keep for the babies late night feed.
BTW anyone who has not seen milk being pumped is in for a treat as the nipple elongates and contracts in a remarkably hypnotic manner.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:47, Reply)
Baked bean...Cigar butt...baked bean...cigar butt....
How I laughed.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 15:04, Reply)
Essex Social Services take baby into care citing breastfeeding as evidence of bad mothering
edit: I meant to add, what a bunch of absolute cunts.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 15:02, Reply)
Check everything is off & doors are locked.
Set combi boiler temp.
Prepare drink of orange squash & hot water bottle to take upstairs.
Say goodnight to ghost.
Go upstairs quickly turning off lights and shutting internal doors as I go.
Use bathroom.
30 press-ups.
Give the radiator a push to stop it doing that plinky thing.
Click alarm on.
Get in bed, read some Viz.
Read a chapter of all the books I have on the go.
Get out of bed and go for a pee.
Back to bed, turn out light.
Briefly consider quitting job, selling house and running away to tropical paradise.
Sleep.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:44, Reply)
I bet that orange squash & hot water bottle drink tastes disgusting.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:55, Reply)
it really puts you in the mood for howling at the moon and having sexual relations with close family members and/or livestock.
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:58, Reply)
Thatcher did it, and look at all the stuff she accomplished
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:47, Reply)
your wisdom has such clarity I'm certain that you must have a beard
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 14:58, Reply)
i don't know. it's the internet isnt it? am i in the wrong place?
(, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 15:18, Reply)
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