Things you've found out.
Catface and I would have been getting married this weekend except two weeks after booking the venue we found out I was knocked up.

Other things I have found out this year include:
- being pregnant is not one of my natural talents
- selling things on ebay is easy and lucrative (I made £70 on my first attempt. Before that I thought it was too much hassle to be bothered).
- online grocery shopping is totally win and means I never have to get headhurtingly irate at slackjawed Tesco trollypushers anymore.

What have you found out this year?
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:25, 128 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

that if you stick the word wedding onto something
you get an immediate (at least) tripling of the price. I knew it was bad, but didn't realise quite how bad.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:29, Reply)

It is indeed ridiculous.
I am slightly ashamed that I have insisted on booking a proper (read: expensive) wedding photographer as I am incredibly unphotogenic. Her photos are amazing though so I hope she can work miracles with me. Everything else we've got pretty cheap.
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:31, Reply)

That's exactly why we left the word wedding out
Massive 2 tier cake for £80, Band £120, Photographer £100 ect.
( Peej, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:34, Reply)

I think I will be attempting to go down this route

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:51, Reply)

Finding someone daft enough to marry you: priceless

(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:15, Reply)

She's hot
therefore daft. You don't get both
( Peej, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 11:47, Reply)

A family friend is doing the photography for us.
Everything else we've managed to get within our budget, but I'm sure that if I wasn't so crap at lying we'd have got it cheaper.

Me: "Hi, I'd like to book your band for a party in August please"
Astute band booker: "Is it for a wedding by any chance?"
Me: "Errrrr yes."
ABB: "cha-CHING!"
(The Empress it seems you CAN polish a turd!, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:38, Reply)

Those pics will be a lasting reminder of the day so I think a good photographer is worth the money.

( girlinthehole, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:34, Reply)

yeah I agree with this
I want to be able to look back and think "ahh didn't we all look beautiful" rather than the usual fighting over which photos to display because ones that he looks nice in I'm doing my double chin thing, etc.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:07, Reply)

I have yet to ask him
but I have a mate who is a superb photographer, and am hoping he will do it for a budget price
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:51, Reply)

Friends for the winner
Although, my parents got my father's brother to take the pictures, as he's very good and had a great camera. He forgot to put the roll inside it (this old cameras, you remember?) so my parents don't have any pictures from their wedding.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:02, Reply)

that's incredibly sad
yet quite funny at the same time.

I wish my parents had no pictures - it's like looking into the not too distant future when I look at my dad
(bamboozled Can hear you getting fatter, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:57, Reply)

yes
especially if you do it abroad, then they double the already inflated wedding prices when they hear that you're British.
( ascorbate, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:34, Reply)

even worse if you actually live abroad
then to get married you have to register all your details with the consulate, and pay a shit load of money to boot
(bamboozled Can hear you getting fatter, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:58, Reply)

I'm going through that
It's not only expensive, but fucking complicated. And because the bf is British and we want to marry in Spain, we need to pay a "professional translator" to translate into Spanish all his documents.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Wed 9 Jun 2010, 11:00, Reply)

That is so true
I think I'm going to book the restaurant for a big family reunion, rather than for a wedding. They easily add £30pp!
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:51, Reply)

I've found
buying some things on ebay can yield exceptionally good bargains, and also that procrastination is my greatest skill
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:32, Reply)

You should totally buy anything I'm selling. They're all bargains.

( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:37, Reply)

haha
what size are they?
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:45, Reply)

I found out that tattoos don't hurt as much as I remembered them doing.

( girlinthehole, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:34, Reply)

It looks awesome.

( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:36, Reply)

Thanks : )
More to come this year.
( girlinthehole, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:38, Reply)

What tat do you have?

(Bear Pookie The Frankly Challenged. Halloween is coming to town., Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:39, Reply)

"Get it here!"
with an arrow pointing down
( Peej, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:39, Reply)

"Slippery when wet."

(Bear Pookie The Frankly Challenged. Halloween is coming to town., Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:41, Reply)

Hot and horny.
On my arm.
( girlinthehole, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:41, Reply)

ooh did you get the breathe one?

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:45, Reply)

Yup!

( girlinthehole, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:48, Reply)

fantastic :)
are you happy with how it's come out? It sounded really nice
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:49, Reply)

It's a lot more simple than I was going to do it but I changed my mind. I think she's missed the notch of the T though so I'll back and get it done.

( girlinthehole, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:51, Reply)

That looks really good
I especially like the script
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:53, Reply)

It looks better in the flesh.
Now it's a star on the back of my neck and something fancy on my foot.
( girlinthehole, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:55, Reply)

decided against
the star on the ankle?
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:56, Reply)

Yes. I now want something bigger and more decorative.
Maybe incorperating a lotus to tie in with the the current one and the buddha on my back.
( girlinthehole, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:57, Reply)

Sounds fantastic
do you design them yourself?
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:00, Reply)

No. The lettering was from a tattoo book and I think I got the buddha from a book too.
The foot one I might try to design myself.
( girlinthehole, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:03, Reply)

let us know
how it goes :)
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:08, Reply)

Will do.
I won't be able to shut up about it anyway : )
( girlinthehole, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:18, Reply)

Do you not ever worry that they might look at the design,
suck air in through their teeth, and then, after a length of time spent lying on your front as the artist presses a hot needle into the back of your neck, they put the mirror up behind you to show you and say,
"Sorry, I can't do Buddhas, so I drew a giraffe instead."
(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:21, Reply)

No.
I'd sue their ass.
( girlinthehole, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:24, Reply)

Like that Belgian girl
Who claimed she "fell asleep" and the guy just carried on drawing more and more stars on her face?
(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:25, Reply)

I loved that
even people who claim tattoos don't hurt admit that you cannot fall asleep during a tattoo.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:43, Reply)

was it not all a ruse
cause her dad woulda kicked the shit outta her?
(bamboozled Can hear you getting fatter, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 11:00, Reply)

it is nice
between a few b3tans I have got closer to getting a tattoo
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:53, Reply)

Doooo itttttt

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:54, Reply)

I'd be tempted
but I know it wouldn't look right on me. Some people can carry them off and others can't
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:55, Reply)

I've considered that
but due to where I want it, and my newly buff surfer shoulders I reckon it'll look good. Might treat myself for my 30th.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:02, Reply)

I'm sure
you're one of the people who can carry them off :)

I just know it'd look like it belonged on a different person if I got one. Plus I'm not allowed to get tattooed or pierced for a couple more years in case it spikes a resurgence in illness
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:07, Reply)

I want Wiggy to get a shoulder/back tattoo
but he's scared of needles. Damn him. You should have seen the look on his face when I told him what injections he would need for Thailand.

We're going to Spain now.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:09, Reply)

haha
I just need to make sure I definitely want what I think I want!
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:27, Reply)

what a shame
I'd love to go to Thailand.

Whereabouts in Spain you going? Avoid Valencia, duller than rainclouds
(bamboozled Can hear you getting fatter, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 11:01, Reply)

People said I didn't carry off smokng
fuck them.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:05, Reply)

I should email the studio I'm thinking of to see how long the waiting list is...

( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:01, Reply)

I need to go and check out my local one

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:02, Reply)

It being london, I don't appear to have a local one :(
I did a bit of research, and norrowed it down to 2. I'm probably going to go with the one in an area I know, and the fact they have a proper website rather than a Myspace. But I've seen work by the other, and it's really very good.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:04, Reply)

that's cool
I've heard good things about the one near the top of my road, so seems like a good place to start. what I want will be plain black, so won't require too much in the way of awesome skills, but I hear that the guys up the road are pretty good anyway.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:05, Reply)

Even plain black
There's a world of difference between good and bad artists :)
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:06, Reply)

I'd welcome your opinion
www.freewebs.com/inkgimptattoo/
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:07, Reply)

Just had a flick through
There's some nice pieces there, one or two shonky ones, but the majority is good enough (decent shading and line work). I'm quite critical though...
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:11, Reply)

But THIS one
Is bad.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:12, Reply)

yes, yes it is
my favourite one on there is a sad face on the end of a big toe
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:20, Reply)

that shark one is fucking awful

(bamboozled Can hear you getting fatter, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 11:03, Reply)

Be careful.
I can be rather addictive.
( girlinthehole, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:07, Reply)

can you?

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:08, Reply)

Oops! I meant it.
*giggles*
( girlinthehole, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:19, Reply)

Their names please?

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:05, Reply)

Blood Brothers on Holloway Road (the one my friend's been to)
Frith Street, Soho (was recommended by several articles)
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:07, Reply)

isn't that the one
that Kate Moss got her stars done at?
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:12, Reply)

Frith Street comes very highly recommended
Blood Brothers I don't know I'm afraid.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:14, Reply)

That was the one I think I'm going for
I'm not sure what they'll say about the design I'm thinking of for my first- it's a black one, but I'm worried that any image I show them will be copyrighted.

It's a mosaic, I'm not sure if that comes under any copyright laws.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:25, Reply)

Is it off the net?

(Bear Pookie The Frankly Challenged. Halloween is coming to town., Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:34, Reply)

Technically it's off a floor in Pompeii

( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:38, Reply)

Haha! then I wouldn't worry about it.

( girlinthehole, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:40, Reply)

But then I'd have to give them a reference photo, which WOULD be off the net
which is why I'm a little concerned about copyright.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:41, Reply)

I shouldn't think any tattooist would care
About the copyright of a photo of a mosaic.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:43, Reply)

yeah
besides if you search for it using a restricted search where the copyright is free on say yahoo images or whatever I'm sure you'll find a reference photo.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:44, Reply)

Sorry
I'm a paranoid person
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:45, Reply)

you should have taken the photo
when you went to Pompeii :)
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:46, Reply)

if you were using the photo for something
on a website or whatever then there might be copyright issues, but using a photo of something to show someone the subject of the photo won't be a problem.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:43, Reply)

What's the breathe one?

(Bear Pookie The Frankly Challenged. Halloween is coming to town., Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:50, Reply)

it says "in" on one set of knuckles
and "out" on the other.
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:51, Reply)

Up and down on the stomach.

(Bear Pookie The Frankly Challenged. Halloween is coming to town., Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:53, Reply)

I've discovered
that I can cope on less than 2 hours sleep a night for much longer periods than I ever thought possible.
( ascorbate, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:35, Reply)

This is heartening, if a little depressing.

( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:37, Reply)

it's ok
we have a freak child apparently. I don't know any other babies who cope on less sleep than he does. yours will be fine.
( ascorbate, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:41, Reply)

Conversely, daughter slept through the night from two weeks old.

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:30, Reply)

Same with my nephew.
My sister doesn't realise how lucky she's been.
( girlinthehole, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:34, Reply)

Gorillas can't swim.
Apparently.
(Bear Pookie The Frankly Challenged. Halloween is coming to town., Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:38, Reply)

what if they wear inflatable armbands?

( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:40, Reply)

Would you put them on for a gorilla?

(Bear Pookie The Frankly Challenged. Halloween is coming to town., Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:41, Reply)

Yup, I'm sure that's how they escape in the book/film Congo.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:45, Reply)

That the point at which I start crying in Glee gets further and further in each episode. It was at 25 mins this time
and that people can change.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:40, Reply)

How far a hamster can stretch.

( Undulating Tentacles of Love getting fun down to acceptable levels, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:43, Reply)

O_o

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:11, Reply)

That I really need a blender.
Not just in a "Ahhh', I'll get it in a few weeks" way, I mean, I seriously need one, it's what is missing in my life at this moment that can fix me in each and every possible way.

That if I don't get a blender today, with a load of frozen fruit, plan yoghurt and mussilli today, something very horrible will happen to me, something worst than not having a smoothy by lunch time, something like me being thrown out my house and my friends and family disowning me.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:47, Reply)

Hand blenders ftw.
You don't even have to blend hands with them.
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:49, Reply)

I got one of those, can you make smoothys with them?
I want one of those blenders that you just bung the stuff in the jug thing, press the button, pour and drink.

Also, OMG OMG OMG: www.oldies.org.uk/?p=26061 - I'm going to have WORDS with all the people involved and see if I can adopt this one, if everyone says 'yes', I'll go down and pick her up at the weekend.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:51, Reply)

I use mine to make smoothies
then you can just drink it out of the container thing
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:53, Reply)

oh
she's gorgeous! cavaliers are great pets too.
( ascorbate, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:53, Reply)

just from the
website address, I thought you wanted to adopt an old person
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:54, Reply)

Me too
I clicked thinking it'd be a joke and horses would appear.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:57, Reply)

OMG! I am so jealous!!
My sister got given a two-year-old black labrador at a party. The owners were moving house and had no garden for him. I have dog envy.
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:58, Reply)

no worries
soon you'll have a baby. It'll be like having a dog but louder
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:58, Reply)

Yeah, but a baby isn't a dog :(
*note to self: never let my child read this*
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:59, Reply)

it's so much cooler than a dog
honestly. now baby is crawling and cruising everywhere, he's like a puppy, but a puppy who will one day grow up and fund my stay in a nursing home. he spends his days gnawing on the furniture, leaves puddles in strange places, and howls when he needs attention.
(I still really really want a dog though)
( ascorbate, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:04, Reply)

I love labradors, when someone tells me to think of the word 'dog', they're what comes into my head.
Such lovely personailtys and so perceptive to human needs.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:07, Reply)

my parents have always had labradors
they are the best dogs
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:20, Reply)

My whippet is a shite dog
if you like dogs. But I don't, so she's cool. She doesn't slobber or shed hair everywhere, she doesn't bark and if it's raining or a bit cold she won't go for a walk, so for me she's the best dog ever. She's like a catdog.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:47, Reply)

small dogs are ok
as long as they aren't psycho yap machines.

for instance, I fucking hate jack russells
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 11:06, Reply)

Not all Jack russells are yappy.

( girlinthehole, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 11:08, Reply)

Also, yeah, I use a handblender for my smoothies.
Works fine; easier to clean.
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:59, Reply)

Ohhhh, I'm going to give that a try at lunch =D

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:08, Reply)

she doesn't mean she just smashes the fruit to a pulp with her hands

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:48, Reply)

ooh
get a food processor. I got a kenwood multipro one, and it's brilliant. it's got the blender attachment, but also all the other food processor-y shit. slicing vegetables with it is great fun, AND has the added bonus that it terrifies the baby (always hilarious).
( ascorbate, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:52, Reply)

Haha!

( girlinthehole, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:56, Reply)

I just Googled that, looks perfect, right pricing too.
*orders*
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:49, Reply)

which one did you get?
I have the FP260 I think. (this one www.kenwoodworld.com/uk/Products/Processing-Blending-Mixing/Food-Processors/FP260-Food-Processor/)
it's lovely.
( ascorbate, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:54, Reply)

I've entered different competitions for the wedding
To see if I can get something for free.

Yesterday I won a day of relax, makeup, hair styling and photoshop in London. I haven't called to get the prize because I can't believe I've won anything. I'm sure it's a trap and I'm going to have to pay for something when I get there.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:57, Reply)

check
that you don't have to pay for the photos, since that is generally where the cost comes in
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:58, Reply)

I was thinking that
I'll give them a ring and ask. It'd be good to try some make up and hair styles, but it's a bit too early for that, anyway, and I'm planning to have a tan for the wedding.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:59, Reply)

Yeah! just be careful.
If it sounds too good to be true then it usually is.
( girlinthehole, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 9:59, Reply)

I won that once
I went and had it all done and they took the photos, but then they pressure you into buying them at the end and a little postcard one is like £60, so it's not worth it.

I want to have professional photos taken of me and my sister for my parents since we live so far away. I also wanted to get pole pictures taken whilst I'm still thin and bendy, but I has no money.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:13, Reply)

Ey!
Thanks for letting me know. I thought it'd be something like that, but I was hoping to get a few pictures for £60!! I won't go, as it's too soon anyway.

I had some professional pictures done once, as a present to my ex boyfriend. They were ok, but not as good as I thought.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:19, Reply)

Oh please.
"Dear internet, I'd like someone to take some pictures of me while I'm pole dancing."
Your only expense will be some burly chap with a stick to stop the pervs getting too close.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:22, Reply)

haha yeah I'll post an ad on gumtree
One of the Manchester pole schools offers the photography and it's really beautifully done, so it won't be some seedy guy in a basement. Hopefully.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:49, Reply)

I'll take photos of you poledancing
lol jk, I'd rather stare at a wall for 2 hours.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:25, Reply)

Most people use the comparison
"I'd rather talk to Chompy for 2 hours" but I guess you can't really do that.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 9 Jun 2010, 10:50, Reply)

That i can no longer b3ta at work.
I'm doing this on my phone it's too much like hard work.
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Wed 9 Jun 2010, 12:57, Reply)