We've had boredom and fed up - what about POLITICAL CONTROVERSY.
Tonight and tomorrow my travels to and from work will be completely fucked up by Bob Crow and his club of blackmailers.

Now I personally do not give a fucking shit about those mongols and their shitty but incredibly well paid jobs. I really DO object to London being held to ransom every time these ghastly peasants fancy another payrise.

I put it to you that in this day and age employment law more than adequately protects 'the worker' and thus trades unions are redundant when considering the reasons why they were formed. Do you agree?
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:36, 137 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

Yes.
I've never joined a union as I believe I can represent myself better than a union can.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:39, Reply)

That's all I hear from teachers at the moment
join the union when you graduate. Apart from that I haven't looked at employment law for a couple of years so I don't know what's changed.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:41, Reply)

^ I think he may have the right idea
Employment law seems to adequately protect most professions these days. I think there are a few exceptions, e.g., teaching, arts, where either things aren't so well regulated or you don't have adequate protection against the little shits you face on a daily basis. Tube drivers do not fall into this category.

On the whole, I must once again disown Bob Crow. He is not a proper crow, and he is certainly not behaving with the dignity of one.
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:47, Reply)

LOOK AT ME I'M DANCING

( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:43, Reply)

Liar.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:44, Reply)

I'm chair dancing

( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:44, Reply)

As you were then.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:48, Reply)

GET ON UP!
I'd rather sit!
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:49, Reply)

AICMFP
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILWSp0m9G2U
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:51, Reply)

DANCING BORDERLINE ILLITERATE
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:07, Reply)

I don't know.
But I suspect teachers would be put upon a whole lot more if they weren't part of a union.
( girlinthehole, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:43, Reply)

My father had 6 months off a year when he taught.
Many of the teachers I had (and some of the people I know who became teachers) would not have lasted 5 minutes in 'the real world', so I say 'fucking boo hoo' to teachers.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:48, Reply)

There are not many professions where it is compulsary that you have to do extra work at home, unpaid overtime.
Plus it's often a thankless task.
( girlinthehole, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:52, Reply)

they aren't forced to become teachers

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:54, Reply)

Nor are they forced to have MASSIVE HOLIDAYS
In many, many jobs it is expected that employees put in unpaid overtime. These people do not live in the real world.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:59, Reply)

That's why I picked reception
no marking! just lots of creative shit.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:01, Reply)

Not just because your punctuation's at about the same level?
Edit: Well edited.
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:03, Reply)

when you sit down my cock is the same level as your eye
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:07, Reply)

*estimates height of eye when seated in desk chair*
How tall are you?
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:09, Reply)

5 ft 10
I reckon with the angle of elevation naturally occuring in my dong, it could be feasible to poke you in the eye.

edit - actually maybe not.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:13, Reply)

that's how you get pinkeye

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:14, Reply)

pinkeye is poop isn't it?
Don't tell me I farted on my housemates pillow all those years ago for nothing.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:15, Reply)

Everything you have ever done is for nothing
as I doubt anyone will remember you when you're dead
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:15, Reply)

trust me things I'm planning to do to your bumhole
will ensure the name BobbyTheStarfish lives on forever.

Edit - yeah I got my own name wrong, what of it? wanna fight about it?
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:17, Reply)

Chocolate starfish vs Chocolate seahorse
On the one hand, one of those moulded Belgian chocolate truffles. On the other, somebody's arsehole.
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:21, Reply)

I've had both in my mouth
at some point
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:22, Reply)

Delightful...

(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:24, Reply)

I am sorry for lowering the tone of this intellectual
pantheon. Right I'm off to the gym, If I'm gonna rub my cock over your chest I'm gonna want some stamina!
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:25, Reply)

I don't know, I'm not a doctor

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:18, Reply)

I don't know Damnit Jim !
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:38, Reply)

5'10?
I didn't know they stacked shit that high!
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:19, Reply)

At a rough estimate, when seated in my chair and sitting upright,
My eye can't be far off 5ft. Assuming, like every man who posts on /OT, you have a modest 12" wang (unless you're a QotW regular, in which case it's normally 15"), and you have disproportionately small legs for your height, I think you'll be lucky if you can caress my nipples with it.
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:20, Reply)

that's more than enough for me

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:21, Reply)

I'll be waiting for you...
*waves coquettishly*
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:22, Reply)

hahaha I'm 2 or 3 inches taller than you when you're sitting down
fuck I'm short
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:22, Reply)

Look on the bright side,
you probably didn't struggle in the same way to find shoes big enough, or trousers long enough, at least before manufacturers recognised that my build was increasingly commonplace. You may even enjoy the tax benefits of still being able to buy children's clothes.

On the downside, yes, you are short.
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:26, Reply)

Children's clothes?!
Oh really. Really. Really.

It's not my fault I stopped growing at the age of 12 :(
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:28, Reply)

I was going to say "get into children's clothes"
but that sounded too much like what I was doing about an hour ago.

12? Really? Were you one of those poor souls who gradually went from being the tallest person in their class to one of the smallest?
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:30, Reply)

Oh you and your pederasty
Yes, I sadly was. Except no one really noticed, and people are thus surprised when I reveal how small I am. Plus I wore high heels every day from age 15 onwards.
And there was someone in my year with dwarfism.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:32, Reply)

sensible lad

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:03, Reply)

I concur

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:04, Reply)

yeah that's kind of how I feel
although I don't know the ins and outs of it. I have a couple of friends who are teachers and they seem to have it pretty fucking easy. Although having said that, something a teacher posted in QOTW a bit ago did change my mind a little.

I just think striking is like having a tantrum when you don't get your own way. And all those BA people who striked over Christmas ruining everyone's holiday plans were just awful, they left so many families unable to be together over Christmas.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:13, Reply)

No unions are necessary to scare the incompetent in management.

(PsychoChomp, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:44, Reply)

But tribunals etc do that anyway, surely?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:46, Reply)

Yes but they're all reactive,
a strong union stops managment from experimenting with peoples jobs in the first place. Like making 50 people redundant then hiring another 30 two months later.
(PsychoChomp, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:48, Reply)

Should there have been a comma after the no?

(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:47, Reply)

at least he corrected the two awful spelling mistakes

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:47, Reply)

shut up.

(PsychoChomp, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:50, Reply)

Shouldn't there be a "your face bitch" after the "shut"?

(PsychoChomp, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:49, Reply)

Nope.

(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:51, Reply)

What's your budget for the Mp3 player I'll have a look around.

(PsychoChomp, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:55, Reply)

I already answered this in MY thread.

(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:57, Reply)

What colour
p.s. you're talking less than £50 for most non apple mp3 players.
(PsychoChomp, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:01, Reply)

For 16gb?
Black.
(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:09, Reply)

That's more like £60ish more if you want videos and touch screen etc.

(PsychoChomp, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:10, Reply)

don't give a shit about videos or touch screen.
just want to be able to navigate round easily and have fairly decent sound quality.
(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:17, Reply)

Oh please let me help you Applebite, please!
My life is so empty and worthless otherwise.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:15, Reply)

I can't wait for the day you, Applebite and 'swipe make a double-decker sandwich out of me and chompy.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:17, Reply)

sorry gonz
i don't do odd numbers
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:25, Reply)

Looks like we'll just have to leave chompy out of it then.

(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:28, Reply)

it's ok
he doesn't fancy any of you

except maybe gonz
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:37, Reply)

Get the new iPod Touch so we can do video calling to each other !
I now have _two_ friends who have FaceTime who I don't call, let alone video call, because I hate speaking on the phone.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:16, Reply)

APPLEBITE I'M EXCITED
Will you give a shit about this?
www.iwatchstuff.com/2010/09/looks_like_sandman_the_series.php
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:17, Reply)

Yes because it mentions Supernatural.
But I still have yet to read Sandman. :/
(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:19, Reply)

That's why I told you
but omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgARGH SO EXCITED I HOPE THIS GOES AHEAD
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:20, Reply)

This is why you should live in a place without tubes.

( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:47, Reply)

But how else are you to bring water and gas into your house?

(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:48, Reply)

In buckets

( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:48, Reply)

I thought Manchester was fully plumbed
Or is Stockport still sending its children up the hill to fetch water from the local well?
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:50, Reply)

I'll have you know H_____ M____
is an oasis of middle class smugness on the outskirts of some true nastiness.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:52, Reply)

Ah so some of them do send their kids to the well
because the water from there is "more organic"?
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:54, Reply)

No, they go to the Health Food Shop
to get overpriced "Well Water" which is the equivalent of the Peckham Spring.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:55, Reply)

haha
i used to work in the liz there.

christ, you would have been about... FIVE.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:26, Reply)

officelol

( girlinthehole, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:50, Reply)

I'll walk to the nearest bit of civilisation
...actually, does that mean I have to go NORTH of the river?!
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:49, Reply)

I agree with you
unions should fuck off.

it may seem harsh, but a lot of people are underpaid and they don't get the opportunity to protest in such a way.

The cunts are lucky to have a job at all, as are a lot of us, so they should be grateful for that. If they don't like it I'm sure there are plenty more people who would take the job at the current wage.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:47, Reply)

I can't believe BA are talkign about striking again over xmas
fuck off you fucking cunts. No one has any sympathy for you as you keep fucking up their fucking holidays
cunts
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:48, Reply)

I hope BA tell them to fuck off again
they have the right attitude.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:49, Reply)

are they?
the twunts

and they wonder why the public have no sympathy for them
( zulu eh?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:51, Reply)

There will always be people who will work for less.
I'm sure there are people in your field of work who would work for less because they can't find a job.
( girlinthehole, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:49, Reply)

I'm sure there are and a lot of people in my industry have taken significant cuts and there have been a lot of redundacies
but I'm not complaining I'm not paid enough.

I'm grateful I have a job at all, which is why I find strikes irksome.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:52, Reply)

I should shut the fuck up really as I'm paid too much : /

( girlinthehole, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:55, Reply)

I probably am too
my mrs however is grossly underpaid for her job, considering she is now chartered, and because of the state of the industry and the economy it seems unlikely that it will be getting sorted.

I have little sympathy for cunts going on strike. If it were for safer working conditions then I'd be all for it, but no one goes into a job without knowing how much it will be paying.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:57, Reply)

What does she do?
accountant? surveyor?
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:02, Reply)

structural engineer

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:03, Reply)

Are there not a lot of options for her in Exeter?

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:08, Reply)

A lot of the sheep-shagging jobs have been taken by Poles.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:09, Reply)

you're thinking of Wales or Norfolk

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:13, Reply)

I was thinking about The Yeovil Sheepskin Centre
who used to have some of the worst television advertising of all time.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:16, Reply)

yeovil is in somerset
which is a hateful place. I was in Somerset this morning. It was the best bit, and it was still awful.

Although I did have a particularly fine bacon and sausage baguette.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:18, Reply)

Oops geographical arseup from me: I did know it was in Zummerzet, I'm just being fick.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:22, Reply)

there aren't a lot of options for her anywhere in the country
hardly anyone is building anything. Loads of engineering companies have taken paycuts and have laid people off and are still struggling.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:13, Reply)

agree 100%, unions are a relic
look at the BA fiasco, the company cannot afford to pay the staff they have, so pay rises are just going to further screw them...
( zulu eh?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:48, Reply)

Duran Duran sang a song called "Union of the snake"
it wasn't very good
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:49, Reply)

^This makes me laugh much more than it theoretically should

(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:50, Reply)

probably a reflex-flex-flex-flex-FLEX action

( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:52, Reply)

I'll flex your action if you're not careful, Sunshine...

(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:53, Reply)

I'm calling POTD on this.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:53, Reply)

And I'm laughing.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:54, Reply)

Really? What planet are you on Monty?
cos this is planet Earth BA-BA-BUH-BA, BA-BA-BA-BUH-BAAA!
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:56, Reply)

Actual 'LOL' from me.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:01, Reply)

Nice one Colonel.
That had me giggling.
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:04, Reply)

I wish people found me this funny IRL

( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:06, Reply)

This is the real world...
...and you are safe with us.
Gabba Gabba we accept you - one of us.
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:13, Reply)

LoL.
I love that film.
(porkylips looks better as the sun goes down., Wed 8 Sep 2010, 9:58, Reply)

fucking fucking fucking unions
i hate them. if i can't get to work to do my job, which is very long and very hard, not like their much lighter shift patterns, how else can i pay their extortionate fares, which pay their salaries. now multiply me by 8,000,000 hard working londoners. ALL these strikes are doing is making people hate the staff.

utter utter tossers who have ruined my plans for tonight and mean that instead of a nice dinner party in leafy chiswick i am stuck in the office until either there is a taxi available or the Q for the bus isn't longer than the Q of people wanting to murder bob crow. although i would Q for that too, frankly.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:52, Reply)

your opinion is negated by your use of Q instead of queue
sorry, but that's the way it is
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:53, Reply)

life is to short
to type out all those vowels vprs.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:57, Reply)

is that why you left an O off too?
;-)
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:58, Reply)

yes that is why
/shifty eyes
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:00, Reply)

haha

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:04, Reply)

Could you not work from home?

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:54, Reply)

nope, i have about 350 live files
and no idea which is going to erupt into a bubbling mass of angst on a day to day basis!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:57, Reply)

You need to get off the legal train
And open a small country cafe somewhere rural.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:03, Reply)

Like, in the country?

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:10, Reply)

That would be ideal.
Just the ticket in fact.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:11, Reply)

Sounds like Frankenstein's laboratory where you work.

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:08, Reply)

Haha, gutted.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:09, Reply)

Not a big fan of Billy Bragg then?

(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 15:56, Reply)

Fuck no. Fucking serf.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:02, Reply)

e u

Hit him Vipros, I'll hold your board.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:05, Reply)

If Billy Bragg made surf records I would reconsider my hatred of him.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:10, Reply)

He's too earnest.
Surf music should be happy, even if it's about a road crash.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:12, Reply)

And sung by beautifully-harmonising Californians
not conk-nosed monotone proles from Essex.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:13, Reply)

Who have a nice house in Dorset.
Probably wants to be near Tolpuddle to soak up the inherant left wing ambiance.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:20, Reply)

I've been to his house.
I did a 3-day photoshoot there about 6 or 7 years ago.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:23, Reply)

Were you draped over the furniture in your Tweedos?

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:26, Reply)

hahaha

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:44, Reply)

No, employment law is barely adequate, and there are some sectors which are over expoloited.
Electrical and civil engineers for two. It is unfortunate that the strong unions, in well protected sectors abuse their status.

Also, Bob Crow should be played in a film by Ray Winstone, bonking Boris Johnson on the nogin with a sock of pool balls, and screaming "I'm the daddy now."
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:00, Reply)

as far as I'm aware as a civil engineer we don't have a union
if we do, none of the engineers I know belong to it, and it does nothing.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:02, Reply)

Do you feel over exploited though?
Could you do with surf breaks instead of tea breaks?
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:04, Reply)

I don't, and I doubt many of friends in the industry would say they were either
my mrs as a structural engineer is, but that's because of people being on mat leave (so increased work load) and the company as a whole has had a load of redundancies and a 10% pay cut. If they were to go on strike then the company would crumble, more than it is anyway due to lack of construction projects.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:12, Reply)

Well put.

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:27, Reply)

thanks.
the state of the industry and how it affects me and my mrs has been on my mind a lot.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:37, Reply)

A union should represent the rights and interests of workers to their employers...
.. and not be politically minded - or in this case greedy cunts.
Employment law is certainly more towards the employer than it was when I 'were-a-lad' but there are still grey areas where the great unwashed need some help to ensure that they do get treated fairly.
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:02, Reply)

I've spent two days trying to work out why when emailing from my script only works some of the time.
Turns out I've got 100s of emails in my spambox from my code now, didn't think to look in there.

Oh well, at least it all works the way it should. What a silly saussage I've been ! I even rebuilt PEAR and reinstalled the Mail, Mail_SMTP, NET_SOCCET and NET_SMTP scripts via the CLI and then bumped them into my included_paths directory in the php.ini file. What a muggings I've been ! It was all in the spam box to begin with.

This is a metaphore for my life in a lot of ways.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:12, Reply)

Employment law may well protect you, but if you can't afford a lawyer you're screwed.
My workplace is very unionised; when changes are planned or issues occur, representatives of various factory departments engage in dialogue with the management and a solution is found. The management don't descend from the mountain and impose changes without considering the consequences, likewise the partnership council act reasonably and don't throw a strop when they get their own way.

It must work because the company hasn't stopped growing even during these last few years, and turned over enough profit to give everyone on site got a 2.5% payrise last month.
( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Mon 6 Sep 2010, 16:32, Reply)