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# Following on from the 'origins of spider phobia' chat earlier, I made this:

At first I thought it would be fun, then it was difficult, then it was harrowing,
then I got sick of it, so have it, it's far from perfect, but I don't want it anymore...

It's a spider made almost entirely from hairy men, click it to make it go scary big.
(I helped save b3ta! ..wil, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:24, archived)
# OOOOOOOOOOOOOH
*does want*

I shall love it and hug it and call it Petalkins.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:24, archived)
# what kind of a name is that?
Thaddeus Amadeus Sachs-Coburg fits much better
(cs192 is sucking on a Koala at, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:26, archived)
# Thaddeus is obviously a pig name.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:28, archived)
# amadeus is a cat name
(I helped save b3ta! Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:28, archived)
# Wolfcat Amadeus Mozarterial Spatter.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:30, archived)
# indeed.
a good name for a hamster would be bob.
(I helped save b3ta! Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:31, archived)
# I'm bored of Bob.
Ever since Blackadder people have called everything Bob.

If I had a hamster he'd be called Peregrine DeWhingyKnickers the Forty Fifth- Guardian of the Four Colonies and Scourge of SheStoat Bloomers.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:32, archived)
# Hahhahahaha *guilty laugh*
(I helped save b3ta! theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:33, archived)
# 'guilty'?
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:34, archived)
# guilty, as in being one of those people who refer to anything that is unnamed as "Bob" in direct reference to Blackadder.
(I helped save b3ta! theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:36, archived)
# Ahhhh
I don't know, it just gets to me a bit. Sorry all.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:36, archived)
# how about kate?
that's short for bob, isn't it?
(I helped save b3ta! Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:44, archived)
# That'd be better.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:46, archived)
# we had a gerbil called mavis
and a mouse called smackhead.
(I helped save b3ta! Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:34, archived)
# Smackhead's a good name.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:34, archived)
# he was a good mouse
totally freaked the dog out.
(I helped save b3ta! Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:36, archived)
# if i had a cat
i'd call it crack whore
(I helped save b3ta! The King of Hats Cone of shame, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:36, archived)
# that's cartman's mum, not a cat.
(I helped save b3ta! Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:37, archived)
# My brother got two kittens. I tried to convince him to name them Brutal and Deluxe.
He did not.
(Jeru War and Piss, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:40, archived)
# he's clearly a fool
.
(I helped save b3ta! Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:41, archived)
# Though actually now I think about it, Brutal Deluxe and Magic Pockets would have been better.
But apparantly cats don't recognise names with more than two syllables or some rot.
(Jeru War and Piss, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:42, archived)
# They respond better to names ending in 'ee' sounds, apparently.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:42, archived)
# my mum's friend runs a stable yard
for several years they had an ancient and crotchetty black horse that the (now deceased) owner had named "nigger".

It was impossible to catch but would come when called, which caused much hilarity.
(I helped save b3ta! Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:44, archived)
# My mum's grandma's dog was called nigger
as it was the same colour as nigger brown boot polish. The unfortunate thing is my nan did the female-member-of-my-family thing of calling people by other names (my mum calls me David sometimes, which is my dad, and Alice sometimes, which is her cat) so my mum spent a good part of her life being called a nigger by my great grandma.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:46, archived)
# Coming over here, stealing our names.
(Jeru War and Piss, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:49, archived)
# my hamster was called Psychorentboy
he was fab until his head came off :(
(I helped save b3ta! Kallus speaks for the Spores, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:46, archived)
# good crowbaring of arterial spatter
in the top 5 of blood distribution patterns
(I helped save b3ta! Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:32, archived)
# I wish I knew the first thing about it, it seems dead interesting.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:33, archived)
# 'tis
plus the courses where you learn about it involve flinging blood about the place.
(I helped save b3ta! Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:34, archived)
# I do like to fling things.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:36, archived)
# *looks shocked*
I wouldn't have put it top 5
(I helped save b3ta! Prof UnderCover evitable, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:34, archived)
# fair enough
let's compare lists then discuss differences like gentlemen.
(I helped save b3ta! Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:35, archived)
# or let's slaughter badgers
until one of us gets bored.
(I helped save b3ta! Prof UnderCover evitable, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:37, archived)
# Do you do blood flinging too?
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:37, archived)
# ... I've cultivated an
enthusiasm for it as an amateur...
(I helped save b3ta! Prof UnderCover evitable, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:41, archived)
# I'm bored
razor-edged swan-neck houpla?
(I helped save b3ta! Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:37, archived)
# sir, as ever, I bow to your
sense of propriety
(I helped save b3ta! Prof UnderCover evitable, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:40, archived)
# *does the sense of propriety dance*
*realises is not wearing lower half of scrubs*
*enjoys mild irony*
(I helped save b3ta! Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:41, archived)
# mmmmm scrubs
best jim jams ever.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:42, archived)
# The kids'll listen to anything these days.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:35, archived)
# giggling like a special needs loon now
ta :D
(I helped save b3ta! Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:36, archived)
# \o/
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:37, archived)
# ha ha ha
I know - but it's just not REAL music like I used to listen to...

*puts on Wet Wet Wet's greatest hit*
*sets fire to HiFi*
(I helped save b3ta! Prof UnderCover evitable, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:38, archived)
# I know a man who loves his Wet Wet Wet.
He is, like you, a Scot. I'm thinking this is a prerequisite.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:40, archived)
# :D
I'm only a plastic Scot
(I helped save b3ta! Prof UnderCover evitable, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:42, archived)
# *intrigued*
Pardon?
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:43, archived)
# I was born and raised in England
and I moved to Scotland when I was 18. ... I have very very slim Scottish lineage (my gran's family) but I don't think anyone would really be able to call me Scottish... so I fit in perfectly in Edinburgh.
(I helped save b3ta! Prof UnderCover evitable, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:47, archived)
# People keep accusing me of being
I think they just see 'small bolshy ginger bird' and assume the rest. Never mind that I talk like this.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:52, archived)
# I don't have an accent for you in my head
... which is quite bad...

you remind me of my very close personal friend Dr. Thalia, so I think you sound a bit like her in my head
(I helped save b3ta! Prof UnderCover evitable, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:54, archived)
# Generic well-spoken Bucks accent.
I hate it, it's not me at all.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:57, archived)
# with those angel eyes, you make saints, do sins all the tiiii-i-i-i-iiiiime...
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:49, archived)
# I didn't even project Pellow's face onto the clouds.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:50, archived)
# :D
WetWetWetFanMan to the rescue!
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:53, archived)
# You have never seemed cooler than right now.
:D
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:54, archived)
# My first cat...
... was called Ludwig. Now that is a cat name.
(I helped save b3ta! Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:31, archived)
# Koshka
is a cat's name.
(I helped save b3ta! Prof UnderCover evitable, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:31, archived)
# my cat is called catface.
it is, by definition, the ultimate cat name.
(I helped save b3ta! Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:32, archived)
# holy whale faeces on toast, that is FUCKING AMAZINGLY COOL!
(even thouigh it creeps teh hell out of me *shudders*)
(I helped save b3ta! theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:25, archived)
# urgh...
that is awesome. I'm impressed.
(I helped save b3ta! Prof UnderCover evitable, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:26, archived)
# KILL IT WITH HAMMERS!!!
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:26, archived)
# that's wonderfully horrid.
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:26, archived)
# i want him!
is it wrong that i want to rub my face into his thorax?
(I helped save b3ta! Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:26, archived)
# Spider and snake fear is genetic
Outline shape and movement is precoded to generate fear. so if you want to scare babies...
(I helped save b3ta! boff FL OZ, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:27, archived)
# what if your not scared of spiders or snakes?
are you not human?
(Absynth&Cheese Have you tasted my Jesus, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:29, archived)
# only if you're also made of slate
(I helped save b3ta! Prof UnderCover evitable, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:30, archived)
# Its in your subconscious dude
conscious phobia snot the same. I did read the research some time ago. Oddly tho sometimes snakes are used as symbols of say fertility or healing. Odd really...
(I helped save b3ta! boff FL OZ, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:32, archived)
# the theory is that phobias are evolutionarily developed behavioural predispositions.
that is, when people are born they have certain survival instincts, one of them being to avoid snakey and spidery type things. Some grow out of it, some don't. Where the fear continues to be more pronounced in later life, that is a phobia.

However, despite wikipedia (just checked) also running with this theory, behavioural and developmental research into phobia-formation does not really support the evolutionary psychology theory. More likely that phobias are false activation of the amygdala(fear bit of brain) which is linked to a certain object earlier in life.

It may well be that phobias are genetic to a certain extent, as many psychological disorders are, but there is a larger part to be played by the environment and the development a person experiences. If phobias were primarily genetic, they would not be so easily treated (in the majority of cases).

/blahblah
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:45, archived)
# 'Tis interesting blah, though.
(I helped save b3ta! An Eagle in Your Mind, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:51, archived)
# Also babies and toddlers tend not to be scared of such things IME,
both my nephews were in no way fearful of spiders till about 12-14, then the revulsion factor kicked in (one is 12, one is 18 and he's growing out if it now).

My 6 y.o. niece now has an amazing power to freak them out when she finds one, LOL!
(I helped save b3ta! ..wil, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:51, archived)
# Treatment
success does however depend on the underlying etiology of the phobia. A directly caused phobia stemming from a childhood incident involving the object of the present phobia is frequently eased by say, hypnotic suggestion. Those of a more complex nature may be representative of a deeper anxiety, etc

/more blah
(I helped save b3ta! FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Fri 10 Oct 2008, 19:10, archived)
# 'so if you want to scare babies...'
How many people are you hoping will sign up for your course?
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:29, archived)
# I plan to.
I've already got a pretty good technique, but I'm always willing to learn.
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:32, archived)
# Not true.
I saw a programme about phobias, and it showed babies playing with a python, showing no fear because their mothers weren't. If their mothers had been afraid of the snake, so would the babies.
(I helped save b3ta! Bob Todd whee, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 18:03, archived)
# holy !
that is magnificent
(I helped save b3ta! bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon., Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:27, archived)
# spider
heh heh -which parts?
(I helped save b3ta! Elvis impersonator, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:29, archived)
# Pretty much all of your average man from teh back is included,
if I had gone the whole 9 yards I woulda made it's head from a bloke with close cropped hair and the 'boxing gloves' from fingers with a hairy bollock on each end, 'cos that is, believe it or not, exactly what they are IRL, they're the male sex organs on appendages made to push them into the female.

No really...

But as I say, I got tired of it. Might go back and finish it properly later but as the point for me was to trigger all my basic psychological repulsion of spiders in 'fraudian nightmare made real' form, needless to say it grew tiresome...
(I helped save b3ta! ..wil, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:37, archived)
# that one doesn't have swollen pedipalps
so it seems to be female.

/learning about spiders blog

p.s. woo!
(I helped save b3ta! Bloop Fri 16 Jul, 22:10, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:56, archived)
# Yup, and females are bigger, hence the original pic I worked off had better detail,
but it is rather a major omission technically speaking that I just transplanted the original head and didn't give it male sex organs, also a bit crap as otherwise I cudda said 'made entirely from a bloke from teh back' then, but as I said elsewhere, I got a bit sick of it.
(I helped save b3ta! ..wil, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 17:09, archived)
# that's very creepy
and gets a mighty woo~har from me!!
(I helped save b3ta! The King of Hats Cone of shame, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:29, archived)
# Brill!
(I helped save b3ta! Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:31, archived)
# creepily shock and awesome
wooz

(I helped save b3ta! OneOfSome, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:32, archived)
# *generic "would" post*
(I helped save b3ta! theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:33, archived)
# comin' right up!!
(I helped save b3ta! The King of Hats Cone of shame, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:36, archived)
# haha! brilliant!
(I helped save b3ta! theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:37, archived)
# Obligatory "have" post
(I helped save b3ta! D'artisan is lesser spotted, lesser spotted like a Tiger, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:37, archived)
# Blllleeeeeeggghhh...
Well done. This is the first thing today that has made me physically vomitous.
(Safety Hamster What happens in the future, stays in the future, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:40, archived)
# I've been looking at is sideways for the last 2 hours of construction,
not to mention finding the source images, LOL!
(I helped save b3ta! ..wil, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:43, archived)
# I salute you sir
You should have a special job in the government... I'm not quite sure what, but you should have it.
(Safety Hamster What happens in the future, stays in the future, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:56, archived)
# ARGH ARGH ARGH
(I helped save b3ta! We are the lemon irked your craw on, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:42, archived)
# Ha! Ha! Ha!
;)
(I helped save b3ta! ..wil, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:44, archived)
# this is rather woo!
creepycrawlyjoything :D
(I helped save b3ta! Kallus speaks for the Spores, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:47, archived)
# Fucking brilliant.
Have a less feasome spider for your troubles...
(I helped save b3ta! An Eagle in Your Mind, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:48, archived)
# This is scary
and scarily good, top woo!
(I helped save b3ta! Nathanial Hornblower, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:48, archived)
# Oh dear me that's so wrong.
Have a *click*.
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:58, archived)
# would.
(I helped save b3ta! postbear has metal knees, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 22:50, archived)
# I dare say feller, you would love my sources:
www.flickr.com/photos/bearjock/
(I helped save b3ta! ..wil, Sat 11 Oct 2008, 0:03, archived)
# holy hell! thanks!
be back later, i'm busy fwapping.
(I helped save b3ta! postbear has metal knees, Sat 11 Oct 2008, 4:29, archived)