
By Jenny Gordon - A breast cancer survivor admits she hadn't been taking care of herself prior to being diagnosed, while another realized the constant pain in her breast just didn't feel right.
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Wed 15 Oct 2008, 16:18,
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and put marbles in their bras.
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about getting a semi colon after bowel cancer
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By Jenny Gordon - A bowel cancer survivor admits she hadn't been taking care of herself prior to being diagnosed, while another realized the constant pain up her ringpiece just didn't feel right.
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By Jenny Gordon - A retirement survivor admits she hadn't been taking care of herself prior to being diagnosed, while another realized the constant smell of piss and cabbage just didn't feel right..
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her tit flew up, hit her in the face and knocked her out.
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Wed 15 Oct 2008, 16:46,
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but a good start would be to read the FAQ
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Wed 15 Oct 2008, 16:20,
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and put couscous in their panties
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Wed 15 Oct 2008, 16:20,
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... add water and pomegranate and pine nuts and chicken mince.
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Wed 15 Oct 2008, 16:23,
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but the cat grit makes me boke.
I guess it's a texture thing.
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Wed 15 Oct 2008, 16:24,
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I guess it's a texture thing.

I'm not owwa keen tbh - why not just have rice.
Mrs. UnderCover (in her infinite wisdom) is batty over the stuff, so I've had to come up with interesting ways of making it taste good.
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Wed 15 Oct 2008, 16:26,
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Mrs. UnderCover (in her infinite wisdom) is batty over the stuff, so I've had to come up with interesting ways of making it taste good.

Rice is always my weapon of choice in the hunt for cat grit alternatives.
especially if you cook the rice in stock, rather than just salt water.
nyom nyom nyom...
I'm hungry now
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Wed 15 Oct 2008, 16:28,
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especially if you cook the rice in stock, rather than just salt water.
nyom nyom nyom...
I'm hungry now

one of my favourite tricks to is add beans or peas to the rice and stock mix... and saffron.
nom nom nom
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Wed 15 Oct 2008, 16:32,
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nom nom nom

tear up a big handful of fresh coriander when the rice is done and stir it through - that's really lovely, too.
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... although it's having a dreadful impact on the hat pin industry
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for some reason I really identify with it on a personal level... I think it's the hair.
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Reminds me of a kid at my school who was famous for being fikk.
I remember an idiot savant moment of his when doing averages in Geography, and he asked "How many people are average, though?"
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I remember an idiot savant moment of his when doing averages in Geography, and he asked "How many people are average, though?"

and put my willy in their fannies.
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and put my hammer through their skulls
/ripper blog
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/ripper blog

it's people like you that give sneaking into women's houses a bad name.
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By Jenny Gordon - A heammaroid sufferer admits she hadn't been taking care of herself prior to being diagnosed with the grapes of wrath, while another realized the constant pain in her arse just didn't feel right.
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When Nobbys Piles had a pile transplant, the doctor told him "For the first 6 weeks they'll throb like buggery while the stitches heal, and after that, they'll throb like buggery"
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but I think cancer in general gets too much charity money and too much attention ... and breast cancer is one of the worst for this (in proportion to other charities).
There are other (much less marketable) things which deserve a lot more attention... should we have a colour me brown for Colon Cancer? What colour is it for Heart Attacks or Dementia?
Anyway - rant over.
Apparently I should keep my stupid opinions to myself.
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Wed 15 Oct 2008, 16:31,
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There are other (much less marketable) things which deserve a lot more attention... should we have a colour me brown for Colon Cancer? What colour is it for Heart Attacks or Dementia?
Anyway - rant over.
Apparently I should keep my stupid opinions to myself.

are you a troll or what?
This is one of the stupidest things i think i have everheard anyone say.
Marketable? Where do you think the money goes?
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Wed 15 Oct 2008, 16:34,
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This is one of the stupidest things i think i have everheard anyone say.
Marketable? Where do you think the money goes?

it's true.
The chances of you surviving breast cancer are fairly high... not true of a lot of the less easy to talk about cancers... get lung cancer and you're fucked, colon cancer? fucked. Brain tumour? But still there are millions and millions of pounds raised for breast cancer while it would be much better spent elsewhere...
then - things like Dementia. It's a HUGE problem and a real problem. What's the dementia charity called? Who knows and who cares? No night time walks for them... no wear pink days... try and forget about them and feel good about the breast cancer money we're raising.
It riles me quite a lot.
stupidest things you've ever heard anyone say? I stand by it - possibly it's a little tactless, but still I think breast cancer receives a disproportionately high amount of charity fund raising and it would be better if it were used more equitably.
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The chances of you surviving breast cancer are fairly high... not true of a lot of the less easy to talk about cancers... get lung cancer and you're fucked, colon cancer? fucked. Brain tumour? But still there are millions and millions of pounds raised for breast cancer while it would be much better spent elsewhere...
then - things like Dementia. It's a HUGE problem and a real problem. What's the dementia charity called? Who knows and who cares? No night time walks for them... no wear pink days... try and forget about them and feel good about the breast cancer money we're raising.
It riles me quite a lot.
stupidest things you've ever heard anyone say? I stand by it - possibly it's a little tactless, but still I think breast cancer receives a disproportionately high amount of charity fund raising and it would be better if it were used more equitably.

i think they would be very interested in your opinions.
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Wed 15 Oct 2008, 16:46,
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but if you're going to stick in on 'mywifediedofbreastcancer.com' then I don't see the benefit of it.
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Wed 15 Oct 2008, 16:49,
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finance director for a large cancer charity and she says come down from up your own arse.
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honestly... I'm sure I don't know what I'm talking about.
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I suffer from something called 'Cluster Headaches', which (as a little wikipedia searching will show) are often referred to as 'suicide' headaches for a very good reason.
Having suffered with them for now nearly 10 years, for 5 of those years I was unable to be diagnosed due to lack of specialists and severe lack of research into the condition.
even more depressing was the treatment, of which there is no 'cure' and very little in the way of effective treatment due to lack of effective funding of research, yet it's something I've had for 10 years, and more than likely something I'll have for the next 20-25 years as well, and it's become increasingly common.
When I do have 'attacks' I really do wish for a treatment, as the prospect of literally banging my head against a wall or injecting myself with sumitriptan for temporary relief for a couple of hours to diffuse the pain over a 30+ year period is quite depressing at times, as when attacks happen, they often end up like this poor chap...
uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UzpcPeoPnW0
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Having suffered with them for now nearly 10 years, for 5 of those years I was unable to be diagnosed due to lack of specialists and severe lack of research into the condition.
even more depressing was the treatment, of which there is no 'cure' and very little in the way of effective treatment due to lack of effective funding of research, yet it's something I've had for 10 years, and more than likely something I'll have for the next 20-25 years as well, and it's become increasingly common.
When I do have 'attacks' I really do wish for a treatment, as the prospect of literally banging my head against a wall or injecting myself with sumitriptan for temporary relief for a couple of hours to diffuse the pain over a 30+ year period is quite depressing at times, as when attacks happen, they often end up like this poor chap...
uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UzpcPeoPnW0

it's frustrating to me to think what a significant difference a little money would make towards research into areas like this.
Also - have you been offered oxygen?
www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119570329/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0
Fifty-two randomly selected patients diagnosed as having either active episodic or chronic cluster headaches were evaluated for symptomatic response to oxygen inhalation. At the onset of attacks, 100% oxygen was administered through a facial mask at a rate of 7 liters per minute, for 15 minutes. Each patient self-treated ten attacks, and timed the rated reduction of pain. A successful treatment result required complete or almost complete reduction of pain in seven of ten attacks, within 15 minutes.In a second (crossover) trial involving an additional 50 patients, sublingual ergotamine tartrate (ErgomarÃ’) was compared to oxygen inhalation for symptomatic relief of cluster attacks. Each patient treated ten attacks with either preparation in accordance with the crossover design. Oxygen was administered as described above. Sublingual ergotamine was used every five minutes, to a maximum of three tablets, if necessary.In the first trial 3952 (75%) of patients obtained significant relief from cluster pain. The greatest benefit (92.9%) was found among episodic patients under 50 years of age. The least benefit (57%), was found among chronic patients over 49 years of age. In the second trial, results among oxygen users were better (82%) than those of ergotamine users (70%), but not significantly. Rapidity of relief was similar in both groups.The results of both series indicate that oxygen inhalation is an efficacious symptomatic treatment for cluster attacks. It is superior to ergotamine since there are neither complications nor contraindications to its use. Ergotamine, however, has the advantage of convenience.
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Wed 15 Oct 2008, 16:54,
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Also - have you been offered oxygen?
www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119570329/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0
Fifty-two randomly selected patients diagnosed as having either active episodic or chronic cluster headaches were evaluated for symptomatic response to oxygen inhalation. At the onset of attacks, 100% oxygen was administered through a facial mask at a rate of 7 liters per minute, for 15 minutes. Each patient self-treated ten attacks, and timed the rated reduction of pain. A successful treatment result required complete or almost complete reduction of pain in seven of ten attacks, within 15 minutes.In a second (crossover) trial involving an additional 50 patients, sublingual ergotamine tartrate (ErgomarÃ’) was compared to oxygen inhalation for symptomatic relief of cluster attacks. Each patient treated ten attacks with either preparation in accordance with the crossover design. Oxygen was administered as described above. Sublingual ergotamine was used every five minutes, to a maximum of three tablets, if necessary.In the first trial 3952 (75%) of patients obtained significant relief from cluster pain. The greatest benefit (92.9%) was found among episodic patients under 50 years of age. The least benefit (57%), was found among chronic patients over 49 years of age. In the second trial, results among oxygen users were better (82%) than those of ergotamine users (70%), but not significantly. Rapidity of relief was similar in both groups.The results of both series indicate that oxygen inhalation is an efficacious symptomatic treatment for cluster attacks. It is superior to ergotamine since there are neither complications nor contraindications to its use. Ergotamine, however, has the advantage of convenience.

do you want some giant oversight committee redistributing charitable donations among all charities? You say "I think cancer in general gets too much money and too much attention". You go on to mention "Heart Attacks or Dementia?" as other more worthwhile causes. My perception is that receive an equal amount of attention. The Altzheimer's society and the british heart foundation are both well funded and high profile charities but of course could use more money, as could all charities. And that is what makes your comment seem wrong to me because surely cancer charities also need as much money as they can get. Why in your eyes does cancer not deserve as much attention. My guess is this... you have simply taken exception to the manner in which breast cancer charities in particular raise money.
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I have no problem with the way in which breast cancer charities make their money -- and perhaps I have expressed myself poorly and put across my opinion too strongly and with too little tact.
I do think that... what do I think...?
okay - for example - I used to fund raise a bit for Marie Curie and we used to get next to nothing compared with a lot of other cancer charities and my feelings at the time were very much that a big part of this was people found the idea of palliative care unpalatable. I have had close relative die with dementia and the care they received and the help available to them, while good when they got it, was criminally short in supply.
I don't begrudge any one charity any money - and I'm certainly not advocating a centrally planned ministry of charities which gives out money according to committee - BUT I do believe that some charities are easier to fund raise for than others, and that there's a finite amount of charitable giving available and that large popular charities do well at the expense of smaller less popular ones... there we go - that's my point - I'm not sure that the large charities (despite often being able to fund raise in large amounts) always offer the best value for money and that other charities who find it more difficult to fund raise may be able to better deploy even a small fraction of their large budgets.
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Wed 15 Oct 2008, 17:33,
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I do think that... what do I think...?
okay - for example - I used to fund raise a bit for Marie Curie and we used to get next to nothing compared with a lot of other cancer charities and my feelings at the time were very much that a big part of this was people found the idea of palliative care unpalatable. I have had close relative die with dementia and the care they received and the help available to them, while good when they got it, was criminally short in supply.
I don't begrudge any one charity any money - and I'm certainly not advocating a centrally planned ministry of charities which gives out money according to committee - BUT I do believe that some charities are easier to fund raise for than others, and that there's a finite amount of charitable giving available and that large popular charities do well at the expense of smaller less popular ones... there we go - that's my point - I'm not sure that the large charities (despite often being able to fund raise in large amounts) always offer the best value for money and that other charities who find it more difficult to fund raise may be able to better deploy even a small fraction of their large budgets.

I've over-estimated the amounts large charities waste and under-estimated the amount of good they do.
Still though I know a lot of people who work for charities in other areas and they could use money, even tiny bits of money and I just don't see them ever getting as much as they should when the majority of it goes to breast cancer.
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Wed 15 Oct 2008, 17:43,
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Still though I know a lot of people who work for charities in other areas and they could use money, even tiny bits of money and I just don't see them ever getting as much as they should when the majority of it goes to breast cancer.