What are you banging on lunch?
Also politics, why does Gillian Duffy excite the papers so much yet really really annoy me?
(PsychoChomp, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:01, 203 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

Who's that then?
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:02, Reply)

She's the old woman who Brown called a bigot
she just "accidentally" questioned Clegg a couple of days ago.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:06, Reply)

Oh I hate her. Fucking bigot.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:10, Reply)

you may have missed this yesterday
but I've misplaced your email address.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:10, Reply)

[email protected]

(PsychoChomp, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:11, Reply)

hahaha

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:13, Reply)

I've emailed you. I think I might ' lose' chompy's contact details.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:17, Reply)

By lose do you mean post on Grindr?

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:20, Reply)

She's not really bigoted enough for my tastes

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:07, Reply)

Gillian Duffy can, and should, get to fuck
The sole reason for her fame is that Gordon Brown said she was a bigot. If we review his reasons for doing so, to whit her question "where are all those Eastern Europeans coming from?", we can see that she is not only a bigot but a geographical intellect par excellence. Why the FUCK the Deputy Prime Minister should have to entertain an audience with her is quite beyond me. Does every idiot with an opinion get their own five minutes of fame now?
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:07, Reply)

I'm still waiting for mine

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:08, Reply)

Only on quiz shows

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:08, Reply)

I am not opposed to quiz shows
as you may be aware
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:11, Reply)

the only thing we are aware of
is how much you like it up the wrong 'un.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:12, Reply)

That is absolutely piss poor, especially by your standards
Now go to your room and think about what you've done.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:15, Reply)

I'm deconstructing
it's all post-modern and shit.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:22, Reply)

"Shit" indeed.

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:23, Reply)

Allow me
deconstructing no longer remotely fussed with making my gay jibes any cop whatsoever

post-modern and
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:23, Reply)

I'm also taking the monty view of strikethroughs
I used to love them (but I had to kill them)
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:27, Reply)

Gah
I was about to say "You are Axl Rose AICMFP" (quite the insult, I think you'll agree) but then I remembered that G'n'R only covered that song... and I can't remember who did the original
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:31, Reply)

I did not know that!

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:36, Reply)

I only know that because The Spaghetti Incident? was such a disappointing album
that I clung to the knowledge that it wasn't their own work throughout the wilderness years.

I am a huge Guns'n'Roses fan. And I make no apology for this. There, I said it.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:39, Reply)

fair enough
I am as well. Despite being somewhat bored of the song, I still maintain that the guitar solo from Sweet Child is the best ever.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:46, Reply)

I have absolutely no argument with this
The one from Hotel California gets a lot of shouts, but to my mind Slash does a better job on his own than two Eagles ever managed.

I have fond memories of that solo from when I was playing guitar myself. I'd obsessively practiced the whole song for weeks and was thoroughly enjoying playing it. Then I got to the solo and called in some (much more experienced) help to decode it. We got up to a certain point - I think you know where I mean - and he said "no chance mate. Come back in ten years".

Respect.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:59, Reply)

sounds familiar
I kind of gave up learning other peoples solos years ago (unless they are easy). Part of it is getting the right guitar sound for a start, particularly with someone like Slash or Kirk Hammett, which are the sort of ones I'd have been learning.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:12, Reply)

I was never anywhere near your level
I was just happy to pluck away at my £100 guitar without an amp or effects pedals. As such, my pitiful imitation of the start of the Sweet Child solo sounded awesome to me, and I was gutted to learn that the rest of it was inexlicably far beyond my capabilites.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:16, Reply)

I honestly have no idea how good I am
I'm pretty good at some stuff, but not so good at others. I can't help but compare myself to metal guitarists I know and think I don't stack up that well.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:18, Reply)

Harsh comparison
That's like me watching the professionals on Strictly and berating myself for not being as good as someone the same age as me who started learning 20 years earlier
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:24, Reply)

naa, I mean guys I actually know
my style is totally different admittedly (i.e. lazy) and I've come to terms with not being able to play really fucking fast.

I only use one scale really, except on odd occasions.

I'm talking myself down here...I have a really good ear and can pick stuff up annoyingly fast.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:32, Reply)

You sound like exactly the sort of guitarist I wanted to be when I was 17
It took me fucking forever to pick things up and that was the measure by which I gauged my own ability. I had fast fingers but no muscle memory so spent a lot of time going over things you'd probably take for granted. Didn't help that I was listening to a lot of Megadeth and Pantera at the time.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:36, Reply)

my style is a bit too laid back for metal really
probably prog blues-rock is how you'd want to describe it.

I'm happy with that.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:44, Reply)

I don't know what any of those words mean
*grows mullet, rocks out*
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:45, Reply)

haha
I do like rocking out though.

Do you know Clutch? That's the stuff I like to play best really.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:46, Reply)

I do indeed
Not really my thing, quite like them in short bursts though
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:55, Reply)

some of their albums are a bit hit and miss
the last one was a bit shit unfortunately.

The best thing about b3ta is that it introduced me to Clutch and Bigelf
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 15:09, Reply)

THATS THE JOKE
You are the Weakest link...goodbye
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:13, Reply)

I have absolutely not heard that line before
Most notably not from Anne Robinson *smugs*
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:18, Reply)

I never saw the episode unfortunately

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:19, Reply)

Then you are dead to me

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:22, Reply)

Did you not upload it to youtube?

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:23, Reply)

Not as yet
Am not sure if I won't get my legs slapped by the BBC for doing so. Anyway my moment has passed, I'm not so vain as to assume that people still want to see it
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:26, Reply)

Darth prefers YouLube
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:26, Reply)

PooLube

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:44, Reply)

I'm all for polititians patronising the public
Public: "where are all those Eastern Europeans coming from?"
MP: "Eastern Europe obviously"
Public: "that's not what I meant"
MP: "well you should think about what you're saying before asking a question"
(PsychoChomp, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:09, Reply)

I would love that, I would vote for a lolitician
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:11, Reply)

I would have fucking loved it if Brown had said that to her
The extra votes he might have obtained for such a response as opposed to the subsequent fallout could have tipped the balance in the election. I still find it unbelievable that the Prime minister had to go and apologise to a bigot for calling her a bigot.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:12, Reply)

He had to apologise for being stupid enough
to forget the first rule of being a politician
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:13, Reply)

That in itself is true enough
But the media shouldn't dictate said rules. It's truly sad that enough people watching at home thought there was nothing wrong with was Gillian Duffy said
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:22, Reply)

I cooked myself a piece of chicken
tasty yet dry.
Gillian Duffy is idiotic, and not even a good news story
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:10, Reply)

you should have cooked it differently

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:11, Reply)

It was enough of an achievement already
I did grind some pepper on top of it
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:11, Reply)

pepper is good

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:12, Reply)

indeed it is
with the unfortunate side effect that I now have pepper on everything
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:14, Reply)

Everything eh?
Nude cooking is dangerous
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:18, Reply)

peppertits

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:22, Reply)

This made me laugh far to much

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:23, Reply)

it made me laugh internally
so glad it wasn't just me
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:26, Reply)

made me laugh as well

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:27, Reply)

Hello darling.
I'm doing work I should have done at GCSE. I feel horribly depressed.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:18, Reply)

Aww what are you working on?

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:25, Reply)

Greek vocab :(
boring boring boring boring.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:33, Reply)

lunch isn't here yet but it will likely be a barbequed chicken sandwich and some crisps and perhaps a pickle

( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:18, Reply)

btw i hate saying crisps

( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:19, Reply)

It's ok K, you can't help being wrong.

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:19, Reply)

i'm not wrong
if i say chips you'll think i mean fries
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:21, Reply)

Fries are thin, chips are fat

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:22, Reply)

and it's a mousse
pudding is a synonym for dessert
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:23, Reply)

hahahaha

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:23, Reply)

as water is a synonym for ocean

( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:28, Reply)

well put
but still wrong
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:28, Reply)

pudding is not mousse
there is absolutley no way they could be compared HERE
if I need to send you a fucking box of the shit I will
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:29, Reply)

Yes please!

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:33, Reply)

( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:34, Reply)

what flavor do you want?
www.kraftbrands.com/jello/products/pudding/instant-pudding-and-pie-filling/
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:38, Reply)

Butterscotch? Is that nice?

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:40, Reply)

depends on whether not our butterscotch is the same as your butterscotch
wouldn't want to send it to you and you say "oh this is pistachio"
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:44, Reply)

officelol
I think butterscotch is universal
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:45, Reply)

this is true
I imagine it'll be like angel delight
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:47, Reply)

I basically think that is our closest pudding equivalent

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:49, Reply)

Best munchie food ever!

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:51, Reply)

so you can just imagine it and I won't have to waste my money

( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:55, Reply)

turns out you are right
you should be calling it custard or blancmange depending on if it is egg-thickened or starch-thickened respectively
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:37, Reply)

fuck
thank you
i was meaning less of the name and more of "mousse is much much nicer than pudding"
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:40, Reply)

ah ok
we're all playing the "americans are wrong about what they call stuff" game
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:45, Reply)

Does that mean we can't play the pudding isn't pudding game any more

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:42, Reply)

the new meme is to ask if it's egg-thickened or starch-thickened
do try and keep up.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:44, Reply)

yesssssssssssssssssssss

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:45, Reply)

Going to throw my two pence in
American Pudding is closest to our Angel Delight.

THERE. HAPPY NOW?
(Himjim died a little more inside on, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:48, Reply)

you can take your two pence and shove it

( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:50, Reply)

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:56, Reply)

loving your work

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:05, Reply)

no it's not...

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:28, Reply)

No offence.

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:23, Reply)

none taken

( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:28, Reply)

That's cos you're a merkin-mong

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:19, Reply)

I had breakfast not too long ago and am having dinner at about 7.30 or so or whatever
so I don't think I'll have lunch.

It's useful to have someone with strong views to roll out from time to time.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:22, Reply)

You are Richard Littlejohn
AICM Iron Cross with Oak Leaves
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:22, Reply)

I hate the way she's been painted as the voice of the disenfranchised people
I don't know whether this is a stronger indication that the people shouldn't be allowed a voice or that they should, but they're going to need someone of their own intellect as PM to relate to *cough*Dubya*cough*
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:25, Reply)

I've not been paying attention
but I find it's horrific that there are people who genuinely think like her.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:26, Reply)

There are. Fucking thousands of them
The worst part about the whole farrago is that she's not unrepresentative of the people of Rochdale, she's just the one who happened to catch the limelight
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:30, Reply)

It's a symptom of the last 30 years governments to the people of the north really.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:35, Reply)

we should just do away with them

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:37, Reply)

If you live in a deprived area with low prospects and high unemployment crime etc
the addition of cheap labour from abroad can compound the problem and become a focus for peoples need to blame someone/thing for thgeir lot.

In more affulent areas immigration leads to cultural diversity in the shape of shops, restaurants and culture and the negative effects aren't so keenly felt. AS such there tends to be a definitive line in attitudes towards immigration depending on peoples circumstances.

The government does not always address these concerns, Labour was particularly bad at labling anyone who discussed it as racists, forcing the issue "underground".
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:32, Reply)

NEEDS MORE KNOB GAGS

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:33, Reply)

A knob walks into a bar...

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:35, Reply)

the fact that it does become a focus
does not make the people who make it their focus any less racist or bigoted, though. So in that sense Labour are/were entirely right.

especially as low prospects and high unemployment aren't in any way caused by immigration anywhere in this country. I see what you're saying, absolutely, but looking for justification for bigotry is a minefield, it's a very fine like between that and acceptance.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:45, Reply)

I suppose my point was to fight bigotry you'd do better to try and increase people's standerd of living

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:46, Reply)

that might help, certainly

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:09, Reply)

Exactly right
It's not like a bunch of Eastern Europeans arrived (from Eastern Europe) and magically created jobs out of thin air. The jobs were always there, they were just willing to do them, and by all report do them well. The opportunity to work was available but those complaining about lack of jobs are failing to recognise the possibility of doing shit jobs.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:50, Reply)

as the voice of the disenfranchised
she is an excellent example of why they should remain so.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:40, Reply)

*click*

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:46, Reply)

She annoys everyone with a modicum of intellect
on account of being a fucking bigot. That whole episode was the one time I ever empathised with Brown. The poor cunt had to go around to that awful person's council house and apologise for being bang on the money.

Had I been him, I doubt I could have choked back my pride enough.
( Kroney, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:30, Reply)

I agree with this wholeheartedly
My only complaint is that you said it more succintly and forcefully than I managed over several posts above
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:32, Reply)

Which is why I will never a politician make.
I cannot dissimulate.
( Kroney, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:36, Reply)

I gave you a click
I hope this will suffice in stead of elected office
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:42, Reply)

While I agree with you almost entirely
I've limited sympathy for Brown - he had to apologise not for being wrong but for being a fucking idiot in saying what he said whilst being the prime minister of the country . In that position you don't say "my, what a bigot" any more than you say "Silvio is a shockingly corrupt whoremonger and borderline paedophile, don't you think?" ... no matter how true either might be.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:40, Reply)

He said what he said in private.
So I will alter my statement slightly. I would have refused to apologise whilst kicking the cunt who leaked the tape right in the face.
( Kroney, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:43, Reply)

no, he thought he was in private.
for you or I, that's an excuse. For the prime minister of the country, that's no excuse at all.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:46, Reply)

Another reason why I shall never be a politician.
For me, the office of Prime Minister makes me Prime Human.
( Kroney, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:47, Reply)

You are Lord Voldemort
AICMFP
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:56, Reply)

See above
He should have known better than to not check the incredibly basic fact that his microphone was off, but everyone has to be able to switch off sooner or later. He's not on Big Brother and he's only human. The rules that the media impose upon modern-day politics are not what he's been used to dealing with during his career, and not, in my opinion, what they should have to get used to.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:45, Reply)

no, they shouldn't have to, but they do.
and they know they do. I don't like the rules any more than you, but if they can't hack the rules, they shouldn't play the game. I've got a soft spot for Brown - he's the last decent economist we've had in any serious position of power, for a start - but absolutely no sympathy there. He fucked up, and he knows it.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:48, Reply)

I agree with both of you, which is why I'm posting my reply in between, like a sexy political sandwich
I suppose my complaint is with the media more than anything else. I disagree with the notion that we should be privy to every aspect of our politicians' lives, if only because no-one under that kind of scrutiny can be expected to do their job well. I also hate the way Sky jumped on what he'd said as if he'd just advocated ritual sacrifice. The woman WAS a bigot. No, he should not, being mindful of the importance of public appearance, have said so. But who are Sky to assume that the nation as a whole would be outraged by it?
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:55, Reply)

you're totally right
the media are cunts. Sky especially so. See also - banging on like the moral guardians of the world because a footballer did a swear and then fucking constantly repeating the footage for the next ten minutes whilst going "we're sorry this is offensive but it's important you see it" ... if it's offensive, stop fucking showing us. Anyway, who are you to tell me that a 13 stone neanderthal skilled only in booting a pig's bladder saying "fuck" is offensive? isn't that up to me? ...

*rant over*
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:00, Reply)

it was completely not important that anyone saw it either
such a non-event
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:05, Reply)

I fucking hate the advent of 24 rolling news channels
There isn't enough news to go around, so let's over-sensationalise whatever's out there and blow it out of all proportion. People are stupid, they'll lap it up.

And, what's worse, they do.

As regards what Rooney did, he should have known better by the same measure that Brown should (I know it's not the same thing in terms of their profession, but nor is yelling down a camera the same as thinking your mic's off) but he has nonetheless been made an example of by a terrified FA, struggling to adapt to the new rules laid down by their main source of funding.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:06, Reply)

Oh, I know what you're saying about Rooney
It's a valid argument, but not the only one. I don't for one second see why he should regard himself as a role model, for a start. If your children are swearing on the football pitch that's your fault as a parent, not Rooney's. You might as well say that if all things people aspire to are role models, we need a "professional rock stars association" handing out 4 gig bans every time your guitarist snorts coke of some groupie's tits. I'm sick of this obsession with everything being someone else's fault, Darth. It's pathetic.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:15, Reply)

I couldn't agree more, TMB
"My child is overweight, it's not my fault, it's the junk food adverts all over the TV" - who lets him watch the TV and who gives him pocket money? If your child eats crap outside of the house, give him healthy food within and make a correlation between the two apparent. Ban the adverts? Ban your fanny until you can look after what plops out of it
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:19, Reply)

Blimey!
Its all getting a bit serious on here today innit?
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:21, Reply)

ban your fanny.
That shall be our political slogan when we take over the world.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:21, Reply)

We'll need a party name too
Something with a mission statement, but broad appeal. How about the "We've got your kids party"? Works on two levels.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:23, Reply)

Darth has no use for one

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:23, Reply)

Everyone needs a political slogan, Sporters

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:26, Reply)

Fuck 'em all

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:26, Reply)

You see this, this right here, and no reason other,
is why you're not Prime Minister
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:30, Reply)

This is a good thing for the rest of the country

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:31, Reply)

Nonsense
You'd be an awesome PM. Obama could do with being a mite less serious, being called a bender at a G8 summit is exactly what he needs.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:44, Reply)

you talk a disturbing amount of sense
what are you doing here?
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:23, Reply)

This^
I didn't come on here for reasoned discussion and knowledge. I want strikethroughs and name calling.....and tits
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:27, Reply)

Fine
You're a wanker tit

Happy?
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:29, Reply)

Perfectly

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:30, Reply)

Sorry sir.
I'll get back to calling Darth a screaming Mary forthwith.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 15:20, Reply)

This month's When Saturday Comes
has an excellent editorial and several articles on this given the Sky anniversary. I commend it to you.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:34, Reply)

They're the rules of the game
and if you want to play you have to abide by them. Brown couldn't do that. It was indicative of his unwillingness to change and learn if you ask me
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:49, Reply)

YAY FREE LUNCH !!!!!

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:37, Reply)

wtf
how come?
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:38, Reply)

They were giving them out in Farringdon, half the office got some, they had a big van filled with them.
There is a war in the office now as some were too late.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:39, Reply)

man, we never get that sort of shit down here

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:40, Reply)

It's scant consolation for the sheer hideousness of living and working in London, though.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:42, Reply)

true
I do get to live somewhere awesome, and I can always cook my own lovely food
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:44, Reply)

Gonz - eat something healthy for god's sake

( thealternativefact, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:44, Reply)

That's quite healthy, isn't it?
I had Salmon Nigiri for lunch, nowt wrong with that.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:45, Reply)

You see, this is why I don't like being an adult in a lot of respects....
.... when you're a kid, you eat what you're given, the people who feed you knows whats best for you and when. It's a suprise what you have for food and drink, if you want something special, you have to ask for it a week in advance so when the person looking after you goes on their weekly shop, they get the stuff in.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:47, Reply)

With sticky white rice?
No to pulped fruit - not enough fibre.
I'm just teasing though - who gives a damn when we're off to Southgate State for dinner soon?
( thealternativefact, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:48, Reply)

Normal sushi rice =)
Sushi is quite healthy though, isn't it? I mean it seriously, because I mostly get that for lunch on account of it being a resonably healthy meal (rice + fish + a bit of wassabi/soy/ginger). If it's not a healthy meal, then I won't get it so much.

The pulped fruit is better than no fruit, but I agree, it's not an alternative to real fruit.

I'm really looking forward to Brook's Diner =D Are you still thinking about coming up my way for swimming? I'd like to join you if you do.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:53, Reply)

Hmm...
It's pretty healthy - low fat and the nori is fine. But white rice is a bit meh nutrition-wise. It's OK, but not if you eat it all the time, because then you're not getting enough fibre or fruit/veg. Vary your diet, Gonz!
Yes, swimming will commence in May, after work. Of course you can come.
( thealternativefact, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:58, Reply)

Yeh', that makes sense.
I think I might book an appoitment with a nutritionist because although a lot of the things I eat are wrong and I know they're wrong... there are a lot of things that I eat that I don't really realise are wrong, or things that I think are wrong so leave out but are actually right.

And a lot of things that are good for most people, are shit for me, 'cus of spazguts.. like carrots for example.

right/wrong meaning 'good/bad for you'
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:10, Reply)

I think some proper advice for a man of your liquidity would be advisable.
Let them know about your mongsides when you book the appointment, so you can get the most out of it.
You won't have to eat good stuff 100% of the time! But it might make your life a little easier, Gonzeroos.
( thealternativefact, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:12, Reply)

I wouldn't fucking bother
nutrionists are sham woo-mongers of the highest arse order. Try a clinically registered dietician. I can claim I'm a nutritionist, for a start. As I believe has been said by Dara O'Brien, nutritionist is to dietician what toothiologist is to dentist.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:18, Reply)

*to both of you*
Yeah', the specialists at the hospital can hook me up with someone proper, I didn't say dietition because I don't really know. But whoever the docs set me up with will be good.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:24, Reply)

erm I think you'll find it's my way

( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:02, Reply)

+or the highway

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:04, Reply)

Point taken.
Gonz will have to come up his own way etc.
( thealternativefact, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:08, Reply)

Hah, ok, Mayorest Of Beverly Hills Of North London =)

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:08, Reply)

I'm actually the Mayor of England

( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:09, Reply)

This is clearly not true.
If it were, I would not have to go to work tomorrow.
( thealternativefact, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:10, Reply)

You would
But your job would be shopping with me
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:25, Reply)

How terrible.

( thealternativefact, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:30, Reply)

OK, this pulp stuff is grim, it's like baby food.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:11, Reply)

Kids dessert jars are nom!
I have to feed Cow Jr 2 one after his tea and I get half of it
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:12, Reply)

Same as usual for me
She's a nothing to me, I can't even bring out enough effort to be annoyed at her.

However, I do have a quick question which doesn't warrant it's own thread. I'm cooking rabbit tonight, once I've removed the remaining bones left in it. I'm going to keep the ingredients of the stew mainly simple, but I want a pretty damn good sauce with it.

So far I'm thinking that I'm going to brown the rabbit meat, then take it out of the pot, before adding red wine, onions, chicken stock, mushrooms, a bay leaf and some other herbs (also something I'll need a little advice with) into the pot, then let it reduce a bit, before putting the meat back in, and adding it into the slow cooker with the vegetables.

I'm mainly wondering if anyone has any tips as to there being anything else I can add?

I'm also considering stirring a small amount of Marmite in, what do you lot think?
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:47, Reply)

Marmite is good for beef maybe too strong for Rabbit
Use a Bouquet Garni, instead of loose herbs.

Also your stew should contain carrotts and celery softened with the onion
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:50, Reply)

Carrots, yes.
Celery, if I add it for the sauce, I'll take it out before I put it into the slow cooker, honestly can't stand the stuff.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:52, Reply)

mince the celery very fine
then it'll dissolve away to practically nothing, leaving a load of flavour
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:54, Reply)

*disappearing celery fives*

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:56, Reply)

grate it.
soften it with butter and the onions and grated carrots. That's the base for any italian meat sauce and therefore the base for anthing worth having. You will not notice it's there after an hour of cooking, I promise. I fucking hate celery but still base shitloads of stuff on it.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:55, Reply)

I can't eat salad that's had the evil stuff in, but as an ingredient it is essential
I would also suggest some thick smoked bacon/lardon/pancetta to help add moisture to the meat
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:57, Reply)

man, I am salivating at the thought of this

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:03, Reply)

fine if you're making a bouquet garni
not if you're buying a green schwartz teabag. It needs to be the correct herbs really. So tying up some rosemary and thyme with a bay leaf would work.

fully agree on the carrots and celery shizzle. Especially if you grate them first.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:53, Reply)

^this is the correct approach

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:54, Reply)

Agreed

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:55, Reply)

Worcester sauce or Maggi liquid seasoning.
Thyme and rosemary.


PS post me some.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:50, Reply)

Worcester sauce is a must for me

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:51, Reply)

I second thyme
and nakedape's suggestion of carrot and celery
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:52, Reply)

I'm going to say .. on a limb
I wouldn't put worcester sauce in a game dish. Sorry, it's just wrong for that.

But full-on herb fives.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:56, Reply)

*shakes hands*

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:23, Reply)

It's (obviously) gamey
so rosemary is a good herb to start. Thyme, too. Things that add tartness are good as it'll come out very rich, so something like redcurrants or cranberries at a push is good added later, too. Marsala or port would be better than red wine but unless you've got them lying around stick with the red wine.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:52, Reply)

Add a "sub of the day"

(PsychoChomp, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:58, Reply)

Grated with thyme.

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:59, Reply)

and a munchy box

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:00, Reply)

Hahaha

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:24, Reply)

It's woolly liberal softies like Gilliam Duffy that give courageous hard racists a bad name.
She's a fucking poofter.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:49, Reply)

Careful Monty your microphone is on!

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:50, Reply)

Weren't you banging on about how much you love Japanese women the other day?

(PsychoChomp, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:51, Reply)

That's because he has a bath on his balcony and nothing to put in it

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:52, Reply)

She was English.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:54, Reply)

She was English you helmet.

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:54, Reply)

He's getting his own back
He's already grown long hair so he can start a new life as a woman
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:56, Reply)

Japanese women China Girls
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:54, Reply)

I like this
I'm guessing Montster does not
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:11, Reply)

Bowie covering this Iggy Pop ode to heroin
basically saved Pop's life. Whether this was a good move in the long run is a moot point.

*insures car*
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:23, Reply)

Just you shut your mouth.

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:24, Reply)

Good christ those adverts irritate the fuck out of me.
They're all over my last.fm stream as well, the teeth-gnash-makery cunts.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:24, Reply)